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BIG FISH 2006 December 26th, 2006 07:23 PM

cleaning carbs
 
can cleaning your carbs help your motor start faster? I have a 1997
johnson 200 hp venom, and its takes about 4-5 times for it to start up
and run, by that time it smokes like crazy until the fuel and oil burns
off.


Ronnie December 27th, 2006 12:37 AM

cleaning carbs
 
I had one of those - it was the motor that locked up at the 2002 MTC.
Mine was always cold natured the first time I cranked it but was fine
after the first time. Had to choke it hard the first time and the
excess fuel and oil did smoke a lot burning off, but after that it did
not smoke.

Changing plugs helped when mine got real bad.

Ronnie
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BIG FISH 2006 wrote:
can cleaning your carbs help your motor start faster? I have a 1997
johnson 200 hp venom, and its takes about 4-5 times for it to start up
and run, by that time it smokes like crazy until the fuel and oil burns
off.



Carlos December 27th, 2006 12:56 AM

cleaning carbs
 
BIG FISH 2006 wrote:
can cleaning your carbs help your motor start faster? I have a 1997
johnson 200 hp venom, and its takes about 4-5 times for it to start up
and run, by that time it smokes like crazy until the fuel and oil burns
off.

You might already know this, but.

Be sure to trim it all the way down when starting. Carbs work better
when the fuel mix is going down the throat of a carb and not having to
go uphill.

Carlos

BIG FISH 2006 December 27th, 2006 04:43 AM

cleaning carbs
 
when I start it and it dies, then I restart should i push the choke back
in slowly or hold it in for a few seconds if it starts to die again?


Huck P December 27th, 2006 09:58 AM

cleaning carbs
 
...at'tl work. I've got a 1990 150GT which does the same thing. Clears out
the mosquitos when it first starts, but then it's fine for the rest of the
day. May not be "normal", but it's typical for my three carburetors. said
Huck

"BIG FISH 2006" when I start it and it dies, then I restart should i push
the choke back
in slowly or hold it in for a few seconds if it starts to die again?




Ronnie December 27th, 2006 02:30 PM

cleaning carbs
 
BIG FISH 2006 wrote:
when I start it and it dies, then I restart should i push the choke back
in slowly or hold it in for a few seconds if it starts to die again?


I always had to hold my choke in until the motor caught up and ran
smoothly. Not sure what kind of choke you have - mine I pushed the key
in to activate the choke - it was closed or open, no slowly pushing it
in.

Ronnie

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Bob La Londe December 27th, 2006 04:01 PM

cleaning carbs
 
"Ronnie" wrote in message
ups.com...
BIG FISH 2006 wrote:
when I start it and it dies, then I restart should i push the choke back
in slowly or hold it in for a few seconds if it starts to die again?


I always had to hold my choke in until the motor caught up and ran
smoothly. Not sure what kind of choke you have - mine I pushed the key
in to activate the choke - it was closed or open, no slowly pushing it
in.


Sounds like he may have been reffering to the fast idle control instead of
the choke, or don't Johnsons have a fast idle lever?


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Dan, danl, Redbeard uh Greybeard now December 27th, 2006 05:32 PM

cleaning carbs
 
On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 14:23:59 -0500, (BIG FISH
2006) wrote:

can cleaning your carbs help your motor start faster? I have a 1997
johnson 200 hp venom, and its takes about 4-5 times for it to start up
and run, by that time it smokes like crazy until the fuel and oil burns
off.


I don't know a whole lot about modern outboards but it sounds like an
intake leak to me. Don't know if that is possible or not, but it
sounds similar to intake leaks I have found on other engines.

Dan

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BIG FISH 2006 December 27th, 2006 10:22 PM

cleaning carbs
 
I'm sorry Ronnie, I didn't explain the choke right, my boat is a 1997
Javelin 400 TE it has the choke plunger on the key. What it sounds like
is that I need to keep that pushed in until its running smooth? I alway
let it out as soon as it fires, then it stalls and I keep restarting it
till it runs. By me restarting 3-4 times I think is where I'm getting
all the smoke.

Big Fish


Ronnie December 28th, 2006 12:59 AM

cleaning carbs
 

BIG FISH 2006 wrote:
I'm sorry Ronnie, I didn't explain the choke right, my boat is a 1997
Javelin 400 TE it has the choke plunger on the key. What it sounds like
is that I need to keep that pushed in until its running smooth? I alway
let it out as soon as it fires, then it stalls and I keep restarting it
till it runs. By me restarting 3-4 times I think is where I'm getting
all the smoke.

Big Fish


Yes - hold it in. When you release the key the choke opens up
completely and there is no choke. Hold it in till the motor is running.
If you release it and it starts to sputter push it back in. I often had
to hold mine in 15 seconds or more till it started running smooth.

I think that will cut out some of your smoke, too.

Mine was on a 295 Stratos - similar to the Javelin. I also had a 94
Javelin 400 TE later but had a 2001 Johnson 225 on it. It did not need
the choke anything like the 97 Venom did.

Ronnie

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Jerry Barton December 28th, 2006 01:30 AM

cleaning carbs
 
Try replacing the pump bulb.


"BIG FISH 2006" wrote in message
...
can cleaning your carbs help your motor start faster? I have a 1997
johnson 200 hp venom, and its takes about 4-5 times for it to start up
and run, by that time it smokes like crazy until the fuel and oil burns
off.




Dwayne E. Cooper December 28th, 2006 06:09 AM

cleaning carbs
 
On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 04:58:21 -0500, "Huck P" wrote:

..at'tl work. I've got a 1990 150GT which does the same thing. Clears out
the mosquitos when it first starts, but then it's fine for the rest of the
day. May not be "normal", but it's typical for my three carburetors. said
Huck

"BIG FISH 2006" when I start it and it dies, then I restart should i push
the choke back
in slowly or hold it in for a few seconds if it starts to die again?


I'm really interested in hearing all the play by play details in
getting your motor/s started.

That's the motor I've got too (90' 150 GT). Coldest motor I've
ever used... Once it has started, its good to go all day...but
sometimes it takes 10-15 minutes in the morning to start up and...all
too often...I accidently flood it. (probably bc when I push in the
key...its actually squirting gas in the cylinder right?)

I push in the key until it starts and it just won't stay running
no matter how I play the neutral throttle or despite how many times I
press in the key while its running. Are you guys saying "push the key
in and turn it over and...once it starts...keep pushing in on the key"
to keep it running? Or is there something else I'm missing to get
this bad boy going better in the morning?

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BIG FISH 2006 December 28th, 2006 07:44 PM

cleaning carbs
 
Well this morning I went out bass fishing on the Lake of the woods in
Decatur, Mi. caught some nice 2-3 lb. largemouth. water was 39
degrees. But the reason I'm posting is to thank you guys for teaching me
how to start my boat. lol I made sure the motor was all the way down,
and held the choke in until it ran smooth, and Bam" less smoke. Thanks
everyone.

Big Fish


Ronnie December 29th, 2006 02:37 AM

cleaning carbs
 

Dwayne E. Cooper wrote:
On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 04:58:21 -0500, "Huck P" wrote:

..at'tl work. I've got a 1990 150GT which does the same thing. Clears out
the mosquitos when it first starts, but then it's fine for the rest of the
day. May not be "normal", but it's typical for my three carburetors. said
Huck

"BIG FISH 2006" when I start it and it dies, then I restart should i push
the choke back
in slowly or hold it in for a few seconds if it starts to die again?


I'm really interested in hearing all the play by play details in
getting your motor/s started.

That's the motor I've got too (90' 150 GT). Coldest motor I've
ever used... Once it has started, its good to go all day...but
sometimes it takes 10-15 minutes in the morning to start up and...all
too often...I accidently flood it. (probably bc when I push in the
key...its actually squirting gas in the cylinder right?)

I push in the key until it starts and it just won't stay running
no matter how I play the neutral throttle or despite how many times I
press in the key while its running. Are you guys saying "push the key
in and turn it over and...once it starts...keep pushing in on the key"
to keep it running? Or is there something else I'm missing to get
this bad boy going better in the morning?

--
Dwayne E. Cooper, Atty at Law
Indianapolis, IN
Email:
Web Page:
http://www.cooperlegalservices.com
Personal Fishing Web Page: http://www.hoosierwebsites.com/OnTheWater
Dog Fishing: http://www.hoosierwebsites.com/onthe...fishing040.htm
1st Annual ROFB Classic Winner


On mine I had to push the key in and hold it in. I think that activates
the choke, closing it. Holding the key in keeps the choke closed.
Don't think it squirts gas into the cylinder, just keeps most air out
of the mix, making it richer, but not positive about that. Mine was a
97 so things might have changed.

I had a foot feed throttle but I made sure never to touch it - giving
it gas in any way would flood it. Mine did not have the neutral button
on the hand throttle but I suspect it would have done the same thing if
you gave it gas through the throttle system.

Somebody said something about a warm up lever or something. I have had
Evinrude and Johnsons since 1974 from 70 to 225 horsepower and none had
such a system on them that I remember.

Ronnie

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