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After receiving such a great response to my question on hand made
leaders I thought I'd ask another question: What knot do you use to tie your fly to the leader? I have always used either an improved clinch or a palomar knot, but it has been suggested that I use a turle knot or run the line through the eye and tie a loop allowing the fly more natural action. Thanks in advance for all the responses! Ed |
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egildone wrote:
After receiving such a great response to my question on hand made leaders I thought I'd ask another question: What knot do you use to tie your fly to the leader? I have always used either an improved clinch or a palomar knot, but it has been suggested that I use a turle knot or run the line through the eye and tie a loop allowing the fly more natural action. Thanks in advance for all the responses! The turle knot is weak. I don't think many people use it these days. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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egildone wrote:
After receiving such a great response to my question on hand made leaders I thought I'd ask another question: What knot do you use to tie your fly to the leader? ... I use a clinch knot, not the improved clinch, just a plain 5-7 turn clinch knot. It seems to me the clinch is stronger than the improved clinch and it's one step easier to tie. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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egildone wrote: After receiving such a great response to my question on hand made leaders I thought I'd ask another question: What knot do you use to tie your fly to the leader? I have always used either an improved clinch or a palomar knot, but it has been suggested that I use a turle knot or run the line through the eye and tie a loop allowing the fly more natural action. When you mentioned a more natural action of a fly, you may also want to consider the "Duncan Loop or Uni-Knot" It works best for subsurface flies, gives it that swim action. I like using the Duncan loop for the soft hackle wooly worm. http://www.killroys.com/knots/duncan.htm fwiw, -tom |
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"egildone" wrote ... What knot do you use to tie your fly to the leader? Usually an improved clinch, but sometimes a Uni. No real rationale for why, just sometimes the mood strikes. Dan |
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"egildone" wrote What knot do you use to tie your fly to the leader? Pitzen Knot |
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"Larry L" wrote in message ... "egildone" wrote What knot do you use to tie your fly to the leader? Pitzen Knot Larry, thanks for bringing the name of Pitzen up. For the life of me, I couldn't remember the name of that knot. Heard it was a good knot to tie the fly to the tippet. I just looked it up in search, the knot named after the German angler Edgar Pitzenbauer...said to be 20% stronger than the clinch. Speaking of knots, anyone use knot-sense? I've seen this in the fly-shops, even read the instructions, but never used it. They even have an ultraviolet light which cures the knot-sense solution faster. -tom |
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egildone wrote in news:33Pmh.29247$_44.11586
@newsfe23.lga: After receiving such a great response to my question on hand made leaders I thought I'd ask another question: What knot do you use to tie your fly to the leader? I have always used either an improved clinch or a palomar knot, but it has been suggested that I use a turle knot or run the line through the eye and tie a loop allowing the fly more natural action. Thanks in advance for all the responses! Ed I generally use and improved cinch, but I've also messed around with the George Harvey knot for trout, and haven't had any trouble with it. http://www.flyfisherman.com/skills/lkknots/index4.html -- Scott Reverse name to reply |
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Tom Nakashima wrote:
"Larry L" wrote in message ... "egildone" wrote What knot do you use to tie your fly to the leader? Pitzen Knot Larry, thanks for bringing the name of Pitzen up. For the life of me, I couldn't remember the name of that knot. Heard it was a good knot to tie the fly to the tippet. I just looked it up in search, the knot named after the German angler Edgar Pitzenbauer...said to be 20% stronger than the clinch. Speaking of knots, anyone use knot-sense? I've seen this in the fly-shops, even read the instructions, but never used it. They even have an ultraviolet light which cures the knot-sense solution faster. -tom I've used UV Knot Sense. It's ok, but a bit too brittle to my liking. I don't use it for any knots on the leader, other that the leader butt, to fly line connection. I switched to UV Wader Patch, for that connection. It's more pliable, and doesn't seem the crack as easy. Just bought the small UV light. Very handy little toy. Now I don't have to walk outside every time I need to cure the material. It doesn't cure the product faster than sunlight....you just don't need sunlight. FWIW, I only use the stuff to smooth the connection, and not for any added strength. brians |
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message . 1.4... I generally use and improved cinch, but I've also messed around with the George Harvey knot for trout, and haven't had any trouble with it. http://www.flyfisherman.com/skills/lkknots/index4.html Scott Reverse name to reply I like the Flyfisherman site, actually hit the back button and saw a few other knots I wanted to try; the Eugene Bend. I don't do the needle knot for a butt section to the fly-line, but thought about starting. Anyone know the size needle to use for 5wt line? Also what size butt-line to use, thinking it should be a diameter slightly larger than the leader. fwiw, -tom |
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"briansfly" wrote in message news:uxSmh.13025$Ap5.4835@trnddc04... Tom Nakashima wrote: Speaking of knots, anyone use knot-sense? I've seen this in the fly-shops, even read the instructions, but never used it. They even have an ultraviolet light which cures the knot-sense solution faster. -tom I've used UV Knot Sense. It's ok, but a bit too brittle to my liking. I don't use it for any knots on the leader, other that the leader butt, to fly line connection. I switched to UV Wader Patch, for that connection. It's more pliable, and doesn't seem the crack as easy. Just bought the small UV light. Very handy little toy. Now I don't have to walk outside every time I need to cure the material. It doesn't cure the product faster than sunlight....you just don't need sunlight. FWIW, I only use the stuff to smooth the connection, and not for any added strength. brians Thanks Brians, I haven't seen UV Wader Patch, I have to search that product, but if it works I'll take your word for it. So that UV light really works. fwiw, -tom |
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Pitzen Knot OR, sometimes with tiny flies and one of the modern ultra limp tippet materials that seem to me to be 'sticky' and hard to draw up tightly .... I use "the knot" as shown in the book Midge Magic It seems strong ( don't know if that is 'scientifically tested') and is very small ... a big plus. It seems to me, when fishing small stuff, that if the knot is as big as the fly it has to affect the fish's perception of that fly adversely. |
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On Jan 3, 9:27 am, egildone wrote: After receiving such a great response to my question on hand made leaders I thought I'd ask another question: What knot do you use to tie your fly to the leader? I have always used either an improved clinch or a palomar knot, but it has been suggested that I use a turle knot or run the line through the eye and tie a loop allowing the fly more natural action. Thanks in advance for all the responses! Ed Whst Forty said. Clinch knot, unimproved, five to seven turns, Been working for me for more than 50 years.....if it ain't broke, I don't fix it. |
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Ken Fortenberry a écrit :
egildone wrote: After receiving such a great response to my question on hand made leaders I thought I'd ask another question: What knot do you use to tie your fly to the leader? ... I use a clinch knot, not the improved clinch, just a plain 5-7 turn clinch knot. It seems to me the clinch is stronger than the improved clinch and it's one step easier to tie. I'll second that, never add a problem or lost a fish on the regular clinch. I also use the Uni-Knot (http://tinyurl.com/ykezvx) for movement. -- Hope to read you soon, Denis www.uqtr.ca/~lamyd You'll have to eat the SPAM to E-mail |
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