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Fishing is Cold-Hearted!
Fishing is a very cruel sport that slowly and painfully kills the fish.
The fish dies in the water before it is brought out to air. Thats right, it is not an easy bloodless death by suffocation, but rather a brutal, blood-spurting death caused by shock, profuse bleeding, and excruciating pain. The sharp objects on the fish-hook kill the fish by causing severe pain, hemmorhaging, and shock. This is very cruel and sadistic. Suffocation is not what kills the fish. Its the sharp stuff on the hook that slowly, painfully, yet surely kills the poor fish Stop fishing!!!! Shooting a deer is not nearly as sadistic as fishing. Those who fish are commiting a grave sin and will burn in hell after their deaths. Karma is a bitch! |
Fishing is Cold-Hearted!
In article .com, Radium
wrote: Fishing is a very cruel sport that slowly and painfully kills the fish. The fish dies in the water before it is brought out to air. Thats right, it is not an easy bloodless death by suffocation, but rather a brutal, blood-spurting death caused by shock, profuse bleeding, and excruciating pain. The sharp objects on the fish-hook kill the fish by causing severe pain, hemmorhaging, and shock. This is very cruel and sadistic. Suffocation is not what kills the fish. Its the sharp stuff on the hook that slowly, painfully, yet surely kills the poor fish Research before you rant. X-posting trolls is a very cruel sport that slowly and painfully kills usenet. Reasoned debate dies in the thread before the issues are brought to light. This is very cruel and sadistic. Cheerio, -- Fishing: http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/ Writing: http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page: http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/ |
hell no!!!!!!!!!!!
fishing is not crule!!!!!!! i have fished for 10 years and i have never
kill a fish, fishing is not crule if you use barbless hooks and un hooking mats. |
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Radium wrote:
Fishing is a very cruel sport that slowly and painfully kills the fish. Troll O Meter 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 __________________________________________________ _ | | | | | | | | | | | --------------------------------------------------- ^ | ******** O Meter 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 __________________________________________________ _ | | | | | | | | | | | --------------------------------------------------- ^ | |
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Fishing is Cold-Hearted!
In article , Dave Lane
writes Radium wrote: Fishing is a very cruel sport that slowly and painfully kills the fish. Troll O Meter 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 __________________________________________________ _ | | | | | | | | | | | --------------------------------------------------- ^ | ******** O Meter 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 __________________________________________________ _ | | | | | | | | | | | --------------------------------------------------- ^ | Anyway - what the hell do we know about catching fish :-) -- Bill Grey |
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"Radium" wrote in message oups.com... Suffocation is not what kills the fish. Its the sharp stuff on the hook that slowly, painfully, yet surely kills the poor fish That's why I make sure my hooks are extra sharp... JT |
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JT wrote:
That's why I make sure my hooks are extra sharp... I lay a curse on you! In your next incarnation, you'll be a fish who suffers the hellish fate of being fished. As those sharp knife-life barbs of the fish hooks slash through the gums and roof of your mouth. You'll find yourself in excruciating agony. After this, you'll be spurring blood out of those nasty cuts in your palate and gums. You'll suffer this slow painful death. After this death, you'll be reborn as a another fish who endures the same experience. May you be fished to eternity!! |
Fishing is Cold-Hearted!
In article om, Radium
wrote: Radium, we know your reputation in the sci groups but we don't seem to have seen you before in these anti-sport and anti-animal-husbandry x-posts. Please be aware that our own low life trolls have already done these topics to death and, mirabilu dictu, they are better informed than you. JT wrote: That's why I make sure my hooks are extra sharp... I lay a curse on you! In your next incarnation, you'll be a fish who suffers the hellish fate of being fished. As those sharp knife-life barbs of the fish hooks slash through the gums and roof of your mouth. You'll find yourself in excruciating agony. After this, you'll be spurring blood out of those nasty cuts in your palate and gums. You'll suffer this slow painful death. Google for previous corrections to these misconceptions. You are right in one tiny aspect - Yes, fishing -is- cruel - but how and why a fish may suffer and why the angler's methods are more beneficial to the fish than otherwise I leave to you to discover. Homework first, then if you're going to troll, try do the job properly. Cheerio, -- Fishing: http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/ Writing: http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page: http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/ |
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"Radium" writes:
Fishing is a very cruel sport that slowly and painfully kills the fish. The fish dies in the water before it is brought out to air. Thats So, you've never actually seen a fish caught on a hook, have you? -- Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605 Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002 New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer |
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Radium wrote:
I lay a curse on you! If that's Penelope Curse, I'm all for it. (although I'd prefer Cameron Diaz, now that Justin's ****ed off) In your next incarnation, you'll be a fish who suffers the hellish fate of being fished. I lay a curse on you! In your next installation, you will have to install Windows Vista from 3.5" diskettes. |
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"Radium" wrote in message ps.com... JT wrote: That's why I make sure my hooks are extra sharp... I lay a curse on you! In your next incarnation, you'll be a fish who suffers the hellish fate of being fished. As those sharp knife-life barbs of the fish hooks slash through the gums and roof of your mouth. You'll find yourself in excruciating agony. After this, you'll be spurring blood out of those nasty cuts in your palate and gums. You'll suffer this slow painful death. After this death, you'll be reborn as a another fish who endures the same experience. May you be fished to eternity!! I hope you are reborn as a vegetable. I will savor your flavor, but not your screaming in agony, while chewing you raw and alive. http://www.gardenseeker.com/do_plant..._feelings_.htm |
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"Radium" wrote in message ps.com... JT wrote: That's why I make sure my hooks are extra sharp... I lay a curse on you! And you a filthy crack whore, who is screwed in the ass for all eternity! Good day, JT |
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Musashi wrote:
I hope you are reborn as a vegetable. I will savor your flavor, but not your screaming in agony, while chewing you raw and alive. http://www.gardenseeker.com/do_plant..._feelings_.htm Kids who hate brocolli should show this to their parents. |
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JT wrote:
And you a filthy crack whore, who is screwed in the ass for all eternity! Oh no! I can't handle that fate! Lord please help me! barfing in fear |
Fishing is Cold-Hearted!
"Radium" wrote in message ps.com... JT wrote: And you a filthy crack whore, who is screwed in the ass for all eternity! Oh no! I can't handle that fate! Lord please help me! barfing in fear Tell that to cone snails that harpoon their victims with poison harpoons. |
Fishing is Cold-Hearted!
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 at 14:57:05 in uk.rec.fishing.game Dave Lane wrote:
install Windows Vista from 3.5" diskettes :-) life's too short..! -- Nogood Boyo |
Fishing is Cold-Hearted!
On 10 Jan 2007 23:20:03 -0800, "Radium" wrote:
Fishing is a very cruel sport that slowly and painfully kills the fish. The fish dies in the water before it is brought out to air. Thats right, it is not an easy bloodless death by suffocation, but rather a brutal, blood-spurting death caused by shock, profuse bleeding, and excruciating pain. The sharp objects on the fish-hook kill the fish by causing severe pain, hemmorhaging, and shock. This is very cruel and sadistic. That's actually completely incorrect. Fish have totally different kind of skin to humans and it is very tough especially around the mouth. Hooks do not cause fish a lot of pain and rarely cause bleeding. They certainly don't kill them. Suffocation is not what kills the fish. Its the sharp stuff on the hook that slowly, painfully, yet surely kills the poor fish You are completely deluded and quite obviously know nothing about fish or fishing. When I have been fishing in the past it is the striking of the fish on the head which kills it instantly without any suffering. That's for the small number of fish I keep to eat. The majority of fish that I release back seem pretty fine and healthy to me and swim away none the worse for wear. If hooks were really as deadly as you think then the fish we release back to the water afterwards would not swim away as right as rain. Stop fishing!!!! No. You stop whinging. Shooting a deer is not nearly as sadistic as fishing. I was beginning to think you were a bleeding heart liberal. Now I think you're just a whinging hypocritical troll. Shooting a Deer especially if you are quite a distance from it, could result in you not hitting the dear in the correct place to kill it instantaneously. It could suddenly move before you pull the trigger or you may move slightly and miss hitting it elsewhere. Then you have a situation where you will have a Deer with a bullet in it some place that might manage to leave the scene to somewhere further away were it is going to bleed for quite a while before it dies or before anyone can get there to finish it off. So I would argue that if anything the Deer hunting is more likely to result in a Deer that suffers before it dies. Not that either of these sports are sadistic and in the case of fishing, not all fishermen keep what they catch, a lot of it especially in course and game fishing is thrown back. Before the ban on Fox Hunting here in the UK, what you usually had was the dogs would catch the weakest, disease ridden or oldest foxes, or the ones that were problems, and the huntsmen would be right behind and be able to take care of the fox pretty much straight away. Since the ban on hunting with Dogs what you now have is a situation where you have marksmen shooting them from greater distances, and quite often missing which now results in Foxes that have been shot and injured that suffer for a long time before they die. And these foxes shot by marksmen from longer distances are not necessarily the weakest foxes, old foxes, problem foxes or diseased ones. It is often healthy ones too. So now the ban on hunting with dogs has just exacerbated and made worse a problem that you never had previously. The weekend after the ban on hunting with dogs came into effect, 10 times as many foxes were killed that weekend by marksmen. I believe it was something like 130 foxes that were shot the weekend after the ban when ordinarily the hunts going on around the country would have only culled a seventh or sixth of that number at best. Due to the animal rights brigade who know nothing about conservation, animals or the countryside, you now have a situation were animals are worse off, and instead of problem disease ridden foxes being culled you also have healthy ones being killed as well. At least with hunting with dogs the fox had a sporting chance of getting away, and quite often the fittest and healthiest foxes would get away, usually only the diseased ones and problem ones would be caught and killed, and this served a very useful purpose. Now you don't have this situation any more because of spiteful class warfare instigated by left wing scruffy hippy types who know nothing about the welfare of animals especially from the looks of the way they keep themselves and their own animals. The sad thing is that a lot of people in this country as well as political parties have been suckered in to believing that things like fox hunting is cruel without ever actually going on a hunt and finding out for themselves whether it is or not. It is just another law that has been passed based on public emotion instead of hard facts. Those who fish are commiting a grave sin and will burn in hell after their deaths. Karma is a bitch! Jesus is doing just fine as well as all his disciples and they caught and ate plenty of fish. John |
Fishing is Cold-Hearted!
Radium wrote: Fishing is a very cruel sport that slowly and painfully kills the fish. The fish dies in the water before it is brought out to air. Thats right, it is not an easy bloodless death by suffocation, but rather a brutal, blood-spurting death caused by shock, profuse bleeding, and excruciating pain. The sharp objects on the fish-hook kill the fish by causing severe pain, hemmorhaging, and shock. This is very cruel and sadistic. Suffocation is not what kills the fish. Its the sharp stuff on the hook that slowly, painfully, yet surely kills the poor fish Stop fishing!!!! Shooting a deer is not nearly as sadistic as fishing. Those who fish are commiting a grave sin and will burn in hell after their deaths. Karma is a bitch! I'd suggest you set an example for all of us, by no longer eating fish. You should also avoid eating animals, for the same reasons. You should also avoid all kinds of plant life, because, their living things as well. Get back to us in a few months, and let us all know how your doing. John |
hell no!!!!!!!!!!!
There is an easy test - just stick one of the hooks you use through your
upper lip and give it a good strong pull - if it hurts you it hurts the fish David - who has no probs about fishing for a feed, but has no time for those who think sticking sharp hooks into some poor creature is 'fun' wrote: fishing is not crule!!!!!!! i have fished for 10 years and i have never kill a fish, fishing is not crule if you use barbless hooks and un hooking mats. |
hell no!!!!!!!!!!!
quietguy wrote:
There is an easy test - just stick one of the hooks you use through your upper lip and give it a good strong pull - if it hurts you it hurts the fish Total B.S. I stick A hook in your lip, and pull, you follow, because if you don't it hurts MORE Put one in a fish and pull, he pulls the other way as hard as he can, because it "does not hurt", he instead feels just trapped, most fish don't even bleed when hooked in the lip. If fish felt pain, fishing would not be even fun, they would just swim right up to you, instead of fighting, (yet you claim this latter kills them, total PETA B.S., not from any real data.) Of course they have actually hooked fish up with electronic sensors , and proved they lack the part of the brain that senses pain. I have seen sharks , get "mortally" bitten in a feeding frenzy, and they two continue to feed until the die, not showing any signs of being bitten. All this is PETA propaganda, that fish feel pain,, but you know what, even if they did, I don't CARE, one way, or another, if they would still fight against the hook, and line, of course they wouldn't, I just hate people LYING to get their point across. A baited hook is a very successful means of capturing mammals, yet there is no one, anywhere, that does that for sport, ever thought of why ? Sure today, there are laws against it, even for catching "food", but back when there were no such laws, there is no record of people doing it for "sport". because there is no "sport" to it. Some did use it, to feed their families. Why do you never hear PETA raise all HELL, about the pain caused when a mountain lion kills a jogger ? Or a shark attacks a swimmer ?, or when an animal inflicts pain on another animal ? WE "all" know why they don't :-) If I invented a fish hook that injected Novocain as it stuck the fish,, do you think PETA would then say fishing with it, would be A OK ? ASK PETA leaders, hell I could invent it in about 10 min. It would make me millions as an "approved" PETA fish hook, tell them I'll give them 10% of the profits. ROTFLMAO David - who has no probs about fishing for a feed, What? You you say it's OK to inflict pain, just so people can "enjoy" fish, and chips ???????????????? WHAT a Moron, the pleasure of eating something, is more pleasure that catching something, so then the "pain is OK" ? Well nothing to fear, there was no pain , even in the fish you eat, so you can eat that fish without guilt . -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread, Nutri Shield insect repellent. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
hell no!!!!!!!!!!!
quietguy writes:
There is an easy test - just stick one of the hooks you use through your upper lip and give it a good strong pull - if it hurts you it hurts the fish Assuming the mammalian nervous system is the same as the piscine. -- Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605 Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002 New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer |
hell no!!!!!!!!!!!
quietguy wrote:
There is an easy test - just stick one of the hooks you use through your upper lip and give it a good strong pull - if it hurts you it hurts the fish David - who has no probs about fishing for a feed, but has no time for those who think sticking sharp hooks into some poor creature is 'fun' wrote: fishing is not crule!!!!!!! i have fished for 10 years and i have never kill a fish, fishing is not crule if you use barbless hooks and un hooking mats. This is typical of those who learned everything they know about animal life from Walt Disney. The mouth of most fish is all, or mostly, bone. That's because many of the fish they eat to survive have fins with sharp spines on the end. Those fish that have fleshy mouths have very tough mouths as well. I've been shark fishing many times, seen sharks hooked, fought to the boat, released, only to see the same fish swim over to the next bait and hook themselves again. Bluefish will do the same. Remember, we're talking about fish here, not characters from "Finding Nemo" (sorry, but that is "make beleave", so is the Easter Bunny, someone had to break the news to you). Most fish are not very smart, and their memory isn't very long. So all that pain and suffering you think they feel is very quickly forgotten, if it was ever there in the first place. No need for months of therapy here. You should watch fish feed in the wild sometime (not covered in Finding Nemo or by Walt Disney), their quite barbaric, to say the least. I'm afraid their not the cuddly peaceful creatures you thought they were. In fact, when they grow large enough, just jump in the water with them, and you to might become part of the food chain. |
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:06:06 +0000, Derek Moody
wrote: In article .com, Radium wrote: Fishing is a very cruel sport that slowly and painfully kills the fish. The fish dies in the water before it is brought out to air. Thats right, it is not an easy bloodless death by suffocation, but rather a brutal, blood-spurting death caused by shock, profuse bleeding, and excruciating pain. The sharp objects on the fish-hook kill the fish by causing severe pain, hemmorhaging, and shock. This is very cruel and sadistic. Suffocation is not what kills the fish. Its the sharp stuff on the hook that slowly, painfully, yet surely kills the poor fish Bully boy sport, if you can call it a sport, looking like a garden gnome! Research before you rant. X-posting trolls is a very cruel sport that slowly and painfully kills usenet. Reasoned debate dies in the thread before the issues are brought to light. Free speech, something you and your bully boy friends try hard to suppress. -- Disclaimer Pete has taken all reasonable care to ensure that pages published by him were accurate on the date of publication or last modification. Other pages which may be linked or which Pete may have published are in a personal capacity. Pete takes no responsibility for the consequences of error or for any loss or damage suffered by users of any of the information published on any of these pages, and such information does not form any basis of a contract with readers or users of it. It is in the nature of Usenet & Web sites, that much of the information is experimental or constantly changing, that information published may be for test purposes only, may be out of date, or may be the personal opinion of the author. Readers should verify information gained from the Web/Usenet with the appropriate authorities before relying on it. Should you no longer wish to read this material or content, please use your newsreaders kill filter. |
Fishing is Cold-Hearted!
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 01:38:19 +0000, Derek Moody
wrote: In article om, Radium wrote: Radium, we know your reputation in the sci groups but we don't seem to have seen you before in these anti-sport and anti-animal-husbandry x-posts. Please be aware that our own low life trolls have already done these topics to death and, mirabilu dictu, they are better informed than you. JT wrote: That's why I make sure my hooks are extra sharp... I lay a curse on you! In your next incarnation, you'll be a fish who suffers the hellish fate of being fished. As those sharp knife-life barbs of the fish hooks slash through the gums and roof of your mouth. You'll find yourself in excruciating agony. After this, you'll be spurring blood out of those nasty cuts in your palate and gums. You'll suffer this slow painful death. Google for previous corrections to these misconceptions. You are right in one tiny aspect - Yes, fishing -is- cruel - Yet you persist. Hurting children is cruel, yet you persist. Hurting wildlife is cruel, yet you persist. That's extremism for you. -- Disclaimer Pete has taken all reasonable care to ensure that pages published by him were accurate on the date of publication or last modification. Other pages which may be linked or which Pete may have published are in a personal capacity. Pete takes no responsibility for the consequences of error or for any loss or damage suffered by users of any of the information published on any of these pages, and such information does not form any basis of a contract with readers or users of it. It is in the nature of Usenet & Web sites, that much of the information is experimental or constantly changing, that information published may be for test purposes only, may be out of date, or may be the personal opinion of the author. Readers should verify information gained from the Web/Usenet with the appropriate authorities before relying on it. Should you no longer wish to read this material or content, please use your newsreaders kill filter. |
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The research on the survivability of fish that have been caught and released
simply does not support this claim. Most of those fish survive. Many of the deeply hooked fish even survive because the strong acid in the digestive system dissolves the hook. Today, all of the fishermen that I know release most of the fish that they catch. The fish are not harmed. Since most fish are lip hooked, there is usually no loss of blood. The statements made below by "Radium" are refuted by the current research and are simply not true! Have a Great Day! Fishinprof "Radium" wrote in message oups.com... Fishing is a very cruel sport that slowly and painfully kills the fish. The fish dies in the water before it is brought out to air. Thats right, it is not an easy bloodless death by suffocation, but rather a brutal, blood-spurting death caused by shock, profuse bleeding, and excruciating pain. The sharp objects on the fish-hook kill the fish by causing severe pain, hemmorhaging, and shock. This is very cruel and sadistic. Suffocation is not what kills the fish. Its the sharp stuff on the hook that slowly, painfully, yet surely kills the poor fish Stop fishing!!!! Shooting a deer is not nearly as sadistic as fishing. Those who fish are commiting a grave sin and will burn in hell after their deaths. Karma is a bitch! |
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On Apr 7, 7:13 pm, "Nick" wrote:
Since most fish are lip hooked, there is usually no loss of blood. Okay, but extremely painful tears occur on the fish's lip. The fish may not die but it sure will suffer extreme agony while victimized by the sadistic sport of fishing. |
Fishing is Cold-Hearted!
In article .com,
Radium writes On Apr 7, 7:13 pm, "Nick" wrote: Since most fish are lip hooked, there is usually no loss of blood. Okay, but extremely painful tears occur on the fish's lip. The fish may not die but it sure will suffer extreme agony while victimized by the sadistic sport of fishing. It is also a fact that many fish once released ,and swim away, may well die soon after. -- Bill Grey |
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On Apr 10, 2:52 pm, "W. D. Grey" wrote:
It is also a fact that many fish once released ,and swim away, may well die soon after. Exactly. |
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On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:52:12 +0100, "W. D. Grey"
wrote: In article .com, Radium writes On Apr 7, 7:13 pm, "Nick" wrote: Since most fish are lip hooked, there is usually no loss of blood. Okay, but extremely painful tears occur on the fish's lip. The fish may not die but it sure will suffer extreme agony while victimized by the sadistic sport of fishing. It is also a fact that many fish once released ,and swim away, may well die soon after. Whose fact is it that"...many fish once released ,and swim away, may well die soon"? Do have some remotely scientific data to support your wild-eyed claim or do you have a dedicated group of observers who report to you on a regular schedule? |
Fishing is Cold-Hearted!
On May 19, 4:26 pm, wrote:
Whose fact is it that"...many fish once released ,and swim away, may well die soon"? Do have some remotely scientific data to support your wild-eyed claim or do you have a dedicated group of observers who report to you on a regular schedule? Fishing kills by tearing the mouth and lips of the fish. It is extremely painful for the fish. The fish dies from blood loss. |
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On 19 May 2007 17:27:59 -0700, Radium wrote:
On May 19, 4:26 pm, wrote: Whose fact is it that"...many fish once released ,and swim away, may well die soon"? Do have some remotely scientific data to support your wild-eyed claim or do you have a dedicated group of observers who report to you on a regular schedule? Fishing kills by tearing the mouth and lips of the fish. It is extremely painful for the fish. The fish dies from blood loss. Yours is simply another in a long line of unsupported PETA opinion. |
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On May 26, 1:23 pm, wrote:
On 19 May 2007 17:27:59 -0700, Radium wrote: On May 19, 4:26 pm, wrote: Whose fact is it that"...many fish once released ,and swim away, may well die soon"? Do have some remotely scientific data to support your wild-eyed claim or do you have a dedicated group of observers who report to you on a regular schedule? Fishing kills by tearing the mouth and lips of the fish. It is extremely painful for the fish. The fish dies from blood loss. Yours is simply another in a long line of unsupported PETA opinion. Nope. Fishing involves slowly and painfully tearing through the flesh of a fish's lips and mouth. A slow painful death caused by profuse bleeding from the wounds. |
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On 26 May 2007 20:00:16 -0700, Radium wrote:
On May 26, 1:23 pm, wrote: On 19 May 2007 17:27:59 -0700, Radium wrote: On May 19, 4:26 pm, wrote: Whose fact is it that"...many fish once released ,and swim away, may well die soon"? Do have some remotely scientific data to support your wild-eyed claim or do you have a dedicated group of observers who report to you on a regular schedule? Fishing kills by tearing the mouth and lips of the fish. It is extremely painful for the fish. The fish dies from blood loss. Yours is simply another in a long line of unsupported PETA opinion. Nope. Fishing involves slowly and painfully tearing through the flesh of a fish's lips and mouth. A slow painful death caused by profuse bleeding from the wounds. I have been fishing for more than sixty years and I suspect that I have caught and released more fish than you'll ever see. I have yet to see one bleed profusely from a hook wound unless hooked in the gill. Gill hooked fish will bleed and ultimately die but I don't release any fish that has gill damage. I kill the fish using a Iki Jime tool and take it for food. I use circle hooks so it's very rare that I gill hook a fish. (See http://www.fishingkites.co.nz/cleani...ning_fish.html) You've been badly hooked by those spreading anti-fishing propaganda and they won't release you so you must continue to fight to learn the real truth about fishing. Take a kid fishing. |
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We are helping entire species exist and flourish, so I see the price of
some of their species being caught and released as biologically very cheap. Furthermore, it is no more painful than being eaten alive by an Otter, or swallowed whole by a bigger fish or bird and being dissolved alive in their digestive tract! -- Fishing with Cliff The New Fishing Show in Town Articles, Photos, & Webcasts http://www.fishingwithcliff.com/ |
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In article 36, Cliff
writes We are helping entire species exist and flourish, so I see the price of some of their species being caught and released as biologically very cheap. Furthermore, it is no more painful than being eaten alive by an Otter, or swallowed whole by a bigger fish or bird and being dissolved alive in their digestive tract! What pathetic unrelated evidential statements to present. What gives you the right to decide what is biologically cheap anyway? In the first case - catch and release fishing is for the fun and "enjoyment" of the angler who could well find his fun elsewhere The second case i the survival of the other creatures who hunt fish for food and some of those creatures may well by hunted themselves to feed a higher order species. -- Bill Grey |
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"W. D. Grey" wrote in message ... In article 36, Cliff writes We are helping entire species exist and flourish, so I see the price of some of their species being caught and released as biologically very cheap. Furthermore, it is no more painful than being eaten alive by an Otter, or swallowed whole by a bigger fish or bird and being dissolved alive in their digestive tract! What pathetic unrelated evidential statements to present. What gives you the right to decide what is biologically cheap anyway? Anglers are conservationists, the money we pay for season tickets, rod licences, day tickets etc pays for the maintainence of thousands of waters up and down the country, as a direct result of this complete eco systems are formed maintaining all forms of wildlife, without fee paying anglers most of what you now see in the countryside would not or could not exist, so I think it is biologically cheap seeing as we paid for it. In the first case - catch and release fishing is for the fun and "enjoyment" of the angler who could well find his fun elsewhere Which does no harm whatsoever. The second case i the survival of the other creatures who hunt fish for food and some of those creatures may well by hunted themselves to feed a higher order species. Thats where we come in, you cant beat a fried brownie with all the trimmings, yum yum :) |
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In article , Niteawk
writes The second case i the survival of the other creatures who hunt fish for food and some of those creatures may well by hunted themselves to feed a higher order species. Thats where we come in, you cant beat a fried brownie with all the trimmings, yum yum :) Oh yes you can - two fried brownies even yummier ! Catch and release does more harm than good. The fish may swim away but may well die later. -- Bill Grey |
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"W. D. Grey" wrote in message ... In article , Niteawk writes The second case i the survival of the other creatures who hunt fish for food and some of those creatures may well by hunted themselves to feed a higher order species. Thats where we come in, you cant beat a fried brownie with all the trimmings, yum yum :) Oh yes you can - two fried brownies even yummier ! Catch and release does more harm than good. The fish may swim away but may well die later. I disagree, no anglers = no fish. |
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In article , Niteawk
writes "W. D. Grey" wrote in message ... In article , Niteawk writes The second case i the survival of the other creatures who hunt fish for food and some of those creatures may well by hunted themselves to feed a higher order species. Thats where we come in, you cant beat a fried brownie with all the trimmings, yum yum :) Oh yes you can - two fried brownies even yummier ! Catch and release does more harm than good. The fish may swim away but may well die later. I disagree, no anglers = no fish. At this juncture we must part company for we shall never agree on this. You are wrong of course :-) -- Bill Grey |
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