Newbie advice needed
 

My son and I are going to try fly fishing. We have purchased the
Cabela's Three Forks rod that comes with the Prestige Plus reel in a
6-weight with a WF floating line. I've been reading everywhere about
how important the line quality is. Since we're newbies with "starter
outfits" are we ok with the line that comes with this combo, or would
we be better off upgrading the line? We could afford to upgrade the
line to something better if it made a difference. If not, then we
won't bother. Thanks in advance for your help.

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mdk77 wrote:
My son and I are going to try fly fishing. We have purchased the
Cabela's Three Forks rod that comes with the Prestige Plus reel in a
6-weight with a WF floating line. I've been reading everywhere about
how important the line quality is. Since we're newbies with "starter
outfits" are we ok with the line that comes with this combo, or would
we be better off upgrading the line? We could afford to upgrade the
line to something better if it made a difference. If not, then we
won't bother. Thanks in advance for your help.


upgrade the line... the line they send is awful.

jeff

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jeff wrote:
mdk77 wrote:
My son and I are going to try fly fishing. We have purchased the
Cabela's Three Forks rod that comes with the Prestige Plus reel in a
6-weight with a WF floating line. I've been reading everywhere about
how important the line quality is. Since we're newbies with "starter
outfits" are we ok with the line that comes with this combo, or would
we be better off upgrading the line? We could afford to upgrade the
line to something better if it made a difference. If not, then we
won't bother. Thanks in advance for your help.


upgrade the line... the line they send is awful.

jeff

My 2¢... fish with it first. See if you like flyfishing. Then
upgrade.
Joel

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Joel *DFD* wrote:

jeff wrote:

mdk77 wrote:

My son and I are going to try fly fishing. We have purchased the
Cabela's Three Forks rod that comes with the Prestige Plus reel in a
6-weight with a WF floating line. I've been reading everywhere about
how important the line quality is. Since we're newbies with "starter
outfits" are we ok with the line that comes with this combo, or would
we be better off upgrading the line? We could afford to upgrade the
line to something better if it made a difference. If not, then we
won't bother. Thanks in advance for your help.


upgrade the line... the line they send is awful.

jeff


My 2¢... fish with it first. See if you like flyfishing. Then
upgrade.
Joel


my 1 cent - the line will affect the experience... the few extra bucks
to upgrade the line are worth the improvement in the experience. trust
me...the line is crap. even i could tell the difference in its quality
and its affect on casting, presentation. upgrade the line...

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jeff wrote:
Joel *DFD* wrote:

jeff wrote:

mdk77 wrote:

My son and I are going to try fly fishing. We have purchased the
Cabela's Three Forks rod that comes with the Prestige Plus reel in a
6-weight with a WF floating line. I've been reading everywhere about
how important the line quality is. Since we're newbies with "starter
outfits" are we ok with the line that comes with this combo, or would
we be better off upgrading the line? We could afford to upgrade the
line to something better if it made a difference. If not, then we
won't bother. Thanks in advance for your help.


upgrade the line... the line they send is awful.

jeff


My 2¢... fish with it first. See if you like flyfishing. Then
upgrade.
Joel


my 1 cent - the line will affect the experience... the few extra bucks
to upgrade the line are worth the improvement in the experience. trust
me...the line is crap. even i could tell the difference in its quality
and its affect on casting, presentation. upgrade the line...

What would you recommend for a "moderate action" rod like the 3 Forks?

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"mdk77" wrote in message
oups.com...
My son and I are going to try fly fishing. We have purchased the
Cabela's Three Forks rod that comes with the Prestige Plus reel in a
6-weight with a WF floating line. I've been reading everywhere about
how important the line quality is. Since we're newbies with "starter
outfits" are we ok with the line that comes with this combo, or would
we be better off upgrading the line? We could afford to upgrade the
line to something better if it made a difference. If not, then we
won't bother. Thanks in advance for your help.


I believe the Prestige Plus WF floating line is good enough. There are
rumors Cortland makes the line.
If you decide you enjoy fly-fishing, you could upgrade to a better line and
keep the Prestige Plus for practicing
your cast. I use Orvis Wonderline DT (yellow) to practice. I purchased the
line by using the $25.oo off coupon. Yellow is good to see the line roll
out. Practicing will wear the line out. The good thing about DT (double
taper) is you can reverse it. I use Scientific Anglers Trout DT (willow
color) when fishing.
fwiw,
-tom

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Tom Nakashima wrote:
"mdk77" wrote in message
oups.com...
My son and I are going to try fly fishing. We have purchased the
Cabela's Three Forks rod that comes with the Prestige Plus reel in a
6-weight with a WF floating line. I've been reading everywhere about
how important the line quality is. Since we're newbies with "starter
outfits" are we ok with the line that comes with this combo, or would
we be better off upgrading the line? We could afford to upgrade the
line to something better if it made a difference. If not, then we
won't bother. Thanks in advance for your help.


I believe the Prestige Plus WF floating line is good enough. There are
rumors Cortland makes the line.
If you decide you enjoy fly-fishing, you could upgrade to a better line and
keep the Prestige Plus for practicing
your cast. I use Orvis Wonderline DT (yellow) to practice. I purchased the
line by using the $25.oo off coupon. Yellow is good to see the line roll
out. Practicing will wear the line out. The good thing about DT (double
taper) is you can reverse it. I use Scientific Anglers Trout DT (willow
color) when fishing.
fwiw,
-tom

Thank you Tom. That sounds like good advice.

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says...

What would you recommend for a "moderate action" rod like the 3 Forks?


The Scientific Anglers "Concept" is a nice casting line which sells for
under $20. You'll never find it at fly shop though; you'll have to take
your chances at discount stores, where you might even find it for under
$10. I've used the dt-5-f and really liked it, I can't comment on the
weight forward lines. It's a 60 ft. line, where most lines are 90 ft.,
if that makes a difference to you. (If you're a beginning caster, it
won't make any difference for years, trust me.) It's a bright yellow
line, so it's easy to see, which is especially important when
you are learning.

Kevin

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reply to: kevin dot vang at minotstateu dot edu

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"Kevin Vang" wrote in message
t...
In article . com,
says...

What would you recommend for a "moderate action" rod like the 3 Forks?


The Scientific Anglers "Concept" is a nice casting line which sells for
under $20. You'll never find it at fly shop though; you'll have to take
your chances at discount stores, where you might even find it for under
$10. I've used the dt-5-f and really liked it, I can't comment on the
weight forward lines. It's a 60 ft. line, where most lines are 90 ft.,
if that makes a difference to you. (If you're a beginning caster, it
won't make any difference for years, trust me.) It's a bright yellow
line, so it's easy to see, which is especially important when
you are learning.

Kevin

--
reply to: kevin dot vang at minotstateu dot edu

Great tip Kevin,
I just did a search and found the SA Concept in a sinking line.
I'm buying the 5wt.
http://www.jsflyfishing.com/cgi-bin/...LL-220410-0000
fwiw,
-tom

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"Kevin Vang" wrote

It's a 60 ft. line, where most lines are 90 ft.,
if that makes a difference to you. (If you're a beginning caster, it
won't make any difference for years, trust me.) It's a bright yellow
line, so it's easy to see, which is especially important when
you are learning.



I use one on my 6wt nymphing rod , it does fine ... ( I think, the thing is
yellow and 60ft )


Also, when I get to feeling depressed about my skills I take out the rod and
'practice' with it .... after a few tries I'm "casting the entire line" and
just being able to say that does wonders for my ego G


Hehe, I was reading a book by a "famous fly fishing author" last night and
interspersed within his claims that run close to " I invented fly fishing"
are comments about 90++ foot casts to rising fish on the Henry's Fork ....
talk about ego, this guy has one G FWIW, I've fished 'around' many
rather famous anglers on the Fork and without exception they were making far
more effort to approach the fish closely than to make epic casts .... the
intricate currents make long casts a recipe for failure. THE best ( most
consistent catcher ) angler I know that is a Fork regular probably averages
less than 25 foot, angler to fish for his casts. One thing I've grown to
accept is that "published author" and ability to do it are NOT always
related ... I've known this for years about dog training where I've been
paid to train dogs by several people that were "published" on the topic but
could barely 'train' a hungry dog to eat, themselves .... the last few
years as my FFing experience grows and I have reason/ occasion to compare
what I see with what is written I've begun to seriously question many FFing
authors in this area of writing vs doing.

Opps, done it again ... strayed from my original reason for posting .... my
"stream of consciousness" often overflows it's banks flooding innocent
bystanders in mucky, muddy, goo.

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mdk77 wrote:

jeff wrote:

Joel *DFD* wrote:


jeff wrote:


mdk77 wrote:


My son and I are going to try fly fishing. We have purchased the
Cabela's Three Forks rod that comes with the Prestige Plus reel in a
6-weight with a WF floating line. I've been reading everywhere about
how important the line quality is. Since we're newbies with "starter
outfits" are we ok with the line that comes with this combo, or would
we be better off upgrading the line? We could afford to upgrade the
line to something better if it made a difference. If not, then we
won't bother. Thanks in advance for your help.


upgrade the line... the line they send is awful.

jeff


My 2¢... fish with it first. See if you like flyfishing. Then
upgrade.
Joel


my 1 cent - the line will affect the experience... the few extra bucks
to upgrade the line are worth the improvement in the experience. trust
me...the line is crap. even i could tell the difference in its quality
and its affect on casting, presentation. upgrade the line...


What would you recommend for a "moderate action" rod like the 3 Forks?


contact walt winter at ezflyfish.com. i like the weight forward rio lines.

http://ezflyfish.com/riofrli.html

but i'd wager any mid-price line would be better than that tomato string
you get from cabelas in their 3 forks packages. i have a 3 forks
rod...like it fine though the reel seat came loose. cabelas sells
lines other than the garbage it ships with the low price combos.

jeff

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"Kevin Vang" wrote in message
t...
In article . com,
says...

What would you recommend for a "moderate action" rod like the 3 Forks?


The Scientific Anglers "Concept" is a nice casting line which sells for
under $20.
It's a 60 ft. line, where most lines are 90 ft.,
if that makes a difference to you. (If you're a beginning caster, it
won't make any difference for years, trust me.)

I sort of disagree with this, as you can learn to cast greater than 60'
with-in two years.
It depends on the individual and how much time they spend practicing. their
casting skills.
I've seen some fly-casters throwing nice loops of 70' in a year.

Seems logical to stay with the Prestige Plus Line, oh btw, I looked up the
line in my Cabela's catalog
last night, it's good enough. Also I would get some line-cleaner. A dirty
line becomes abrasive and will eventually wear out the guides on your
fly-rod, especially the tip. It's good to keep any casting line clean.
fwiw,
-tom

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Tom Nakashima wrote:

"Kevin Vang" wrote in message
t...

In article . com,
says...

What would you recommend for a "moderate action" rod like the 3 Forks?


The Scientific Anglers "Concept" is a nice casting line which sells for
under $20.
It's a 60 ft. line, where most lines are 90 ft.,
if that makes a difference to you. (If you're a beginning caster, it
won't make any difference for years, trust me.)


I sort of disagree with this, as you can learn to cast greater than 60'
with-in two years.
It depends on the individual and how much time they spend practicing. their
casting skills.
I've seen some fly-casters throwing nice loops of 70' in a year.

Seems logical to stay with the Prestige Plus Line, oh btw, I looked up the
line in my Cabela's catalog
last night, it's good enough. Also I would get some line-cleaner. A dirty
line becomes abrasive and will eventually wear out the guides on your
fly-rod, especially the tip. It's good to keep any casting line clean.
fwiw,
-tom


i haven't looked at the catalog. cabelas isn't my preferred catalog
since the time i bought wading boots and they sent me one size 10 and
one size 11 boot. but, if the prestige plus is the white line sent with
the economy combo package, it's junk. have you tried it? it's not "good
enough" unless a bad line is acceptable. and trust me, my standards in
ff stuff aint too high.

jeff

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"jeff" wrote in message
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i haven't looked at the catalog. cabelas isn't my preferred catalog since
the time i bought wading boots and they sent me one size 10 and one size
11 boot. but, if the prestige plus is the white line sent with the
economy combo package, it's junk. have you tried it? it's not "good
enough" unless a bad line is acceptable. and trust me, my standards in ff
stuff aint too high.

jeff

Cabela's is not my preferred of catalogs either, but I do get them....
You can also visit the Cabela's Website to view the different Prestige lines
if you don't get
their fly-fishing catalogs. btw: I didn't see a Prestige (white) line,
perhaps you're speaking of
the backing??? As I said I believe Cortland makes their lines.
I have yet to find a WF line that one couldn't cast good loops with. The
Prestidge Plus
line should be good enough for starters. Then if the angler decides they
enjoy fly-fishing, they may
want to upgade.

Here's the link to the Cabela's Prestige Lines:
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/co...ne&n oImage=0

fwiw,
-tom

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Tom Nakashima wrote:

"jeff" wrote in message
...


i haven't looked at the catalog. cabelas isn't my preferred catalog since
the time i bought wading boots and they sent me one size 10 and one size
11 boot. but, if the prestige plus is the white line sent with the
economy combo package, it's junk. have you tried it? it's not "good
enough" unless a bad line is acceptable. and trust me, my standards in ff
stuff aint too high.

jeff


Cabela's is not my preferred of catalogs either, but I do get them....
You can also visit the Cabela's Website to view the different Prestige lines
if you don't get
their fly-fishing catalogs. btw: I didn't see a Prestige (white) line,
perhaps you're speaking of
the backing???

c'mon tom...i aint that frickin dumb. well, maybe...but, i assure you i
wasn't talking about the backing. g

jeff

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jeff typed:
Tom Nakashima wrote:

"jeff" wrote in message
...


i haven't looked at the catalog. cabelas isn't my preferred
catalog since the time i bought wading boots and they sent me one
size 10 and one size 11 boot. but, if the prestige plus is the
white line sent with the economy combo package, it's junk. have
you tried it? it's not "good enough" unless a bad line is
acceptable. and trust me, my standards in ff stuff aint too high.

Cabela's is not my preferred of catalogs either, but I do get
them.... You can also visit the Cabela's Website to view the
different
Prestige lines if you don't get
their fly-fishing catalogs. btw: I didn't see a Prestige (white)
line, perhaps you're speaking of
the backing???

c'mon tom...i aint that frickin dumb. well, maybe...but, i assure
you i wasn't talking about the backing. g

That white line is just some crappy stuff they throw in with their low
end rod/reel packages. Think watch spring with no slickness.

Jeff, the backing should be attached to the reel first, *then* the fly
line (just in case you didn't know.) ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
---------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/

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"jeff" wrote in message
...
Tom Nakashima wrote:

"jeff" wrote in message
...


i haven't looked at the catalog. cabelas isn't my preferred catalog
since the time i bought wading boots and they sent me one size 10 and one
size 11 boot. but, if the prestige plus is the white line sent with the
economy combo package, it's junk. have you tried it? it's not "good
enough" unless a bad line is acceptable. and trust me, my standards in
ff stuff aint too high.

jeff


Cabela's is not my preferred of catalogs either, but I do get them....
You can also visit the Cabela's Website to view the different Prestige
lines if you don't get
their fly-fishing catalogs. btw: I didn't see a Prestige (white) line,
perhaps you're speaking of
the backing???

c'mon tom...i aint that frickin dumb. well, maybe...but, i assure you i
wasn't talking about the backing. g

jeff


You never know about some of the anglers in this group Jeff...those over 60
affluent type wannabe millionaires,
or was it wannabe affluent type, can't be wannabe over 60.
fwiw,
-tom

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jeff typed:
Tom Nakashima wrote:

"jeff" wrote in message
end rod/reel packages. Think watch spring with no slickness.

Jeff, the backing should be attached to the reel first, *then* the fly
line (just in case you didn't know.) ;-)
--
Indian Joe offers--took my new 6 wt Calabras outfit to New Zealand. After
a few days of slight success I decided to hire a guide for a lesson. He
said --"Lets see your rig- cast twice --took off the line that came with
package- threw it in a pile of trash in the back of his truck--and we
rerigged with another line and went fishing.

Couple of hours later the guide says-"there he is just across river under
that tree" I could just see tree so remembering all my lessons from that
swedish guy at Penns I false cast twice and laid it out there--the guide
says " put it about three feet upstream and let it drift down to him "----I
had just made the premier cast of my life and he ask for improvement !!! We
lost the big brown { size of a salmon } as he broke off when line got
around guides leg while netting was ill performed. Or fisherman had failed
to get line on reel rather than floating it around!

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Tim J. wrote:


Jeff, the backing should be attached to the reel first, *then* the fly
line (just in case you didn't know.) ;-)

wellnofukkinwonder... i knew i shouldn't have listened to wally.