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hey, louie, willi, big dale, waldo, le duc du chocolat, and other
ragged and sorry sonsabitches--where the **** are you? it's tough being the only light in a sea of darkness. i need help! man up, and post some recent history. your friend in the old north state wayno (well, maybe not the *only* light, but you know what i mean) |
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wrote in message oups.com... hey, louie, willi, big dale, waldo, le duc du chocolat, and other ragged and sorry sonsabitches--where the **** are you? it's tough being the only light in a sea of darkness. i need help! man up, and post some recent history. your friend in the old north state wayno (well, maybe not the *only* light, but you know what i mean) It's cold as hell here in the NW and there isn't a thing to post about! Da can't get a rise out of anyone on his Fly Names, Wolfie can't get a flame war started with Ken, the expo sounds like a flop and it hasn't even started, and cabin fever is on the rise. It's just down right frinkin boring around roff.... JT |
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wrote in message oups.com... hey, louie, willi, big dale, waldo, le duc du chocolat, and other ragged and sorry sonsabitches--where the **** are you? it's tough being the only light in a sea of darkness. i need help! man up, and post some recent history. your friend in the old north state wayno (well, maybe not the *only* light, but you know what i mean) Louie left forever, Willi got tired, Big Dale doesn't much like the political stuff, Wally is too busy with business,and Charlie is too busy fishing all over the country, or that would be my best guess! Op |
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JT wrote:
wrote: hey, louie, willi, big dale, waldo, le duc du chocolat, and other ragged and sorry sonsabitches--where the **** are you? it's tough being the only light in a sea of darkness. i need help! man up, and post some recent history. your friend in the old north state wayno (well, maybe not the *only* light, but you know what i mean) It's cold as hell here in the NW and there isn't a thing to post about! Da can't get a rise out of anyone on his Fly Names, I dissed him in the bass group and replied to his subsequent "We be friends, okey dokey" email with my usual SPAM is *bad* for business, just don't do it. Wolfie can't get a flame war started with Ken, If some of the people on Wayno's "light in the darkness" list would learn the judicious use of the killfile as I have they might find roff quite a bit more pleasant. the expo sounds like a flop and it hasn't even started, and cabin fever is on the rise. It's just down right frinkin boring around roff.... Yeah, post more straw hats and shorts pics to abpf. ;-) -- Ken Fortenberry |
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wrote in message oups.com... hey, louie, willi, big dale, waldo, le duc du chocolat, and other ragged and sorry sonsabitches--where the **** are you? it's tough being the only light in a sea of darkness. i need help! man up, and post some recent history. your friend in the old north state wayno (well, maybe not the *only* light, but you know what i mean) You have FRIENDS!!!????? Weather was gorgeous but I was covered up with work. Work slowed down just in time for winter to finally arrive. Fishing is on hold until sane weather arrives. Fly tying slowed down while honey-do's are worked through. March will suck for time but April is looking promising. -- Wayne To Fish is Human...To Release Divine! |
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On 31 Jan 2007 15:05:53 -0800, "
wrote: hey, louie, willi, big dale, waldo, le duc du chocolat, and other ragged and sorry sonsabitches--where the **** are you? it's tough being the only light in a sea of darkness. i need help! man up, and post some recent history. your friend in the old north state wayno (well, maybe not the *only* light, but you know what i mean) Wel-l-l-l-l-l-l, **** you, then...I'm about as sorry a sonsabitch as you'll find, present company excepted, of course, and _I'm_ still here...sorta, anyhoo...hopefully, in a few weeks, I'll have some good Angepitt or Banjoleana or whatever-the-hell-they-call-them stories...and given the parties in question, there may well be titties involved - that oughta cheer ya up! OTOH, NO has suffered enough, only to have them inflicted on it, and right at Carnival time... TC, R |
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:34:17 -0600, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: JT wrote: wrote: hey, louie, willi, big dale, waldo, le duc du chocolat, and other ragged and sorry sonsabitches--where the **** are you? it's tough being the only light in a sea of darkness. i need help! man up, and post some recent history. your friend in the old north state wayno (well, maybe not the *only* light, but you know what i mean) It's cold as hell here in the NW and there isn't a thing to post about! Da can't get a rise out of anyone on his Fly Names, I dissed him in the bass group and replied to his subsequent "We be friends, okey dokey" email with my usual SPAM is *bad* for business, just don't do it. Wolfie can't get a flame war started with Ken, If some of the people on Wayno's "light in the darkness" list would learn the judicious use of the killfile as I have they might find roff quite a bit more pleasant. Well, that, or just quit being pusses... THAT probably won't help, R |
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oups.com... hey, louie, willi, big dale, waldo, le duc du chocolat, and other ragged and sorry sonsabitches--where the **** are you? Willi's hanging out on www.flyfisherman.com |
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On Feb 1, 7:28 am, "JT" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... hey, louie, willi, big dale, waldo, le duc du chocolat, and other ragged and sorry sonsabitches--where the **** are you? it's tough being the only light in a sea of darkness. i need help! man up, and post some recent history. your friend in the old north state wayno (well, maybe not the *only* light, but you know what i mean) It's cold as hell here in the NW and there isn't a thing to post about! Da can't get a rise out of anyone on his Fly Names, Wolfie can't get a flame war started with Ken, the expo sounds like a flop and it hasn't even started, and cabin fever is on the rise. It's just down right frinkin boring around roff.... JT Hmm, you probably don't want to hear that I've set up a week long canoe/fishing trip to Mongolia this June, then. ;-j --riverman |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... If some of the people on Wayno's "light in the darkness" list would learn the judicious use of the killfile as I have they might find roff quite a bit more pleasant. Yeah, there's nothing quite like plucking your eyes out to make the world a more attractive place. Wolfgang i see stupid people. :( |
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wrote in message ... On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:34:17 -0600, Ken Fortenberry wrote: If some of the people on Wayno's "light in the darkness" list would learn the judicious use of the killfile as I have they might find roff quite a bit more pleasant. Well, that, or just quit being pusses... You should definitely go with "that"......trust me. THAT probably won't help, It won't help you. Wolfgang who knows that charity should begin at home. |
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Hmm, you probably don't want to hear that I've set up a week long
canoe/fishing trip to Mongolia this June, then. ;-j --riverman- That is my dream trip. I win the lotto, I'm with ya. Frank Reid |
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"riverman" wrote in message ups.com... It's cold as hell here in the NW and there isn't a thing to post about! Da can't get a rise out of anyone on his Fly Names, Wolfie can't get a flame war started with Ken, the expo sounds like a flop and it hasn't even started, and cabin fever is on the rise. It's just down right frinkin boring around roff.... JT Hmm, you probably don't want to hear that I've set up a week long canoe/fishing trip to Mongolia this June, then. ;-j --riverman Details man... Details....! I have a bunch of neat $hit planned for June too! However, with tomorrows forecast of morning lows below zero, it just seems like years away! JT |
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On Jan 31, 5:34 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: JT wrote: Wolfie can't get a flame war started with Ken, If some of the people on Wayno's "light in the darkness" list would learn the judicious use of the killfile as I have they might find roff quite a bit more pleasant. I'm not sure which Ken JT is referring to, but yes killfiles sure do make this place more pleasant. ....it also has the added benefit of ticking poor little petulant Wolfie off. Bet he can't even help himself and replys to this message. - Ken P.S. Double score if he bites on the obvious spelling error. :-) |
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" wrote in message oups.com... On Jan 31, 5:34 pm, Ken Fortenberry wrote: JT wrote: Wolfie can't get a flame war started with Ken, If some of the people on Wayno's "light in the darkness" list would learn the judicious use of the killfile as I have they might find roff quite a bit more pleasant. I'm not sure which Ken JT is referring to, but yes killfiles sure do make this place more pleasant. And that's in addition to the vastly more valuable job they do as indicators. ...it also has the added benefit of ticking poor little petulant Wolfie off. And hell hath no fury like a Wolfie ticked. Bet he can't even help himself and replys to this message. Oh yeah? How much you wanna bet? P.S. Double score if he bites on the obvious spelling error. :-) Hah! Think you can fool me that easily? Hah! Wolfgang mother siebeneich never raised such a foolish child. |
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Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... If some of the people on Wayno's "light in the darkness" list would learn the judicious use of the killfile as I have they might find roff quite a bit more pleasant. Yeah, there's nothing quite like plucking your eyes out to make the world a more attractive place. Wolfgang i see stupid people. :( the seventh sense... |
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wrote in message
oups.com... hey, louie, willi, big dale, waldo, le duc du chocolat, and other ragged and sorry sonsabitches--where the **** are you? I'll admit to being a ragged and sorry SOB - so even if I wasn't being addressed, I'll fess up. I'm following in the footsteps of my mentor Opie by taking 12 credits at UMass/Amherst in addition to my day job. Busy, busy, busy. I'm planning on earning an MS in applied math in a couple of years, or die trying (which is at least as likely an outcome). In my spare time I'm working through the 160 beer list at my favorite beer dive. And by the way, I found beer heaven last week: Moenchsambacher Weihnachtsbock. Awesome, awesome stuff. If that was readily available, I would gladly give up school, fishing, and many other things in order to imbibe beyond reason. |
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jeff wrote:
Wolfgang wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... If some of the people on Wayno's "light in the darkness" list would learn the judicious use of the killfile as I have they might find roff quite a bit more pleasant. Yeah, there's nothing quite like plucking your eyes out to make the world a more attractive place. Wolfgang i see stupid people. :( the seventh sense... Mirror -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"Stan Gula" wrote in message news:ICwwh.4187$Xf4.2257@trndny09... wrote in message oups.com... hey, louie, willi, big dale, waldo, le duc du chocolat, and other ragged and sorry sonsabitches--where the **** are you? I'll admit to being a ragged and sorry SOB - so even if I wasn't being addressed, I'll fess up. I'm following in the footsteps of my mentor Opie by taking 12 credits at UMass/Amherst in addition to my day job. Busy, busy, busy. I'm planning on earning an MS in applied math in a couple of years, or die trying (which is at least as likely an outcome). In my spare time I'm working through the 160 beer list at my favorite beer dive. And by the way, I found beer heaven last week: Moenchsambacher Weihnachtsbock. Awesome, awesome stuff. If that was readily available, I would gladly give up school, fishing, and many other things in order to imbibe beyond reason. I've never been anyone's mentor before; however, I recommend that you take less hours! I couldn't imagine 12 credit hours and a full-time job. Op --6 credit hours and regretting that decision. Though I'll likely do it again next semester :~^ ( -- |
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On Feb 1, 8:36 pm, 13thchoise wrote:
jeff wrote: Wolfgang wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message et... If some of the people on Wayno's "light in the darkness" list would learn the judicious use of the killfile as I have they might find roff quite a bit more pleasant. Yeah, there's nothing quite like plucking your eyes out to make the world a more attractive place. Wolfgang i see stupid people. :( the seventh sense... Mirror Dumbass. Wolfgang |
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On Feb 1, 12:53 pm, " wrote:
I'm not sure which Ken JT is referring to.... The stupid one. You can call me Giles. |
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On Feb 2, 1:00 am, "JT" wrote:
"riverman" wrote in message ups.com... It's cold as hell here in the NW and there isn't a thing to post about! Da can't get a rise out of anyone on his Fly Names, Wolfie can't get a flame war started with Ken, the expo sounds like a flop and it hasn't even started, and cabin fever is on the rise. It's just down right frinkin boring around roff.... JT Hmm, you probably don't want to hear that I've set up a week long canoe/fishing trip to Mongolia this June, then. ;-j --riverman Details man... Details....! I have a bunch of neat $hit planned for June too! However, with tomorrows forecast of morning lows below zero, it just seems like years away! JT Ya want details...details ya get. In an effort to primarily satisfy my longing for canoeing, especially in a place (HK) that has no rivers larger than a trickle, I got together with several other open boaters and we started reviewing rivers in Tibet, Nepal, western China and India for a late June trip this summer. It turned out that either the logistics or geology were insurmountable; most of the rivers off the south side of the Himalayan Massif either run hellaciously big, or dry up to a rock-filled empty gorge immediately after the snow melts. The only canoeable stretches are downstream, among the populations and pollutions, and though the humid swamplands. Additionally, setting up shuttle logistics from here was just too hard to do. Also, it seems that there is a serious deficit of canoes in this hemisphere. So I had the bright idea of contacting some flyfishing outfitters in Mongolia to see if any of them would be interested in hosting us; providing shuttle and transport services, doing the food shop, etc. Most of the outfitters were not interested; they wanted to sign us up for one of their commercial trips (mostly using rafts). Ordinarily, I would just hop on board, but the main emphasis of this trip is supposed to be a Canoe Expedition more than a fishing trip. Unfortunately, it also seemed that none of them have canoes. Then one particular outfitter rose to the challenge. He's looking for some sort of niche that all the other outfitters don't occupy, so I convinced him that running canoe trips on one of his fishing rivers would entice a whole new group of adventurers to do business with him. We certainly are interested in fishing along the way, but we really want to see the countryside by boat, and I know that there are many like us out there. One thing is leading to another, and the way it stands now is that he is fully onboard. I'm advising him on some canoes to buy (solo and tandem models), and he is contacting manufacturers to see if he can get a good pro-deal to be the first person to import canoes into Mongolia. He is setting us up with a 7-day onriver itinerary, providing transport and logistics, and sending a fishing guide along with us. We'll train the guide on how to run a river trip out of canoes (no raft support), and the guide will help those of us who fish get into some taimen. We also will take photos for his brochures, send some along pics to the equipment manufacturers, and write an article for Canoe and Kayak magazine. I might also write something for a Flyfishing magazine, if any of you have any leads on editors or how to submit to them. So far, I have 3-4 teachers who are also open boaters on the definite list, one of the officers of the China Exploration Society, and a National Geographic photographer. I've contacted a couple of equipment manufacturers (LL Bean and Lincoln Canoes) where I have some contacts about getting some equipment sponsorships, and we're working with the school to see if we can get some discount airfares through official channels. As much as I love flyfishing, this is more than just a fishing trip. Its hopefully going to be the first all-canoe expedition run on this particular river (although the entire stretch we are doing is regularly done in inflatables), but we will, of course, fish along the way. Hopefully, it will become an annual event where I can work with this outfitter and run a different stretch of water each year. I'll keep you guys updated as the plan evolves. 80% of it is still in the planning stages, but the biggest hurdle (getting an outfitter to agree to import boats) has been passed. --riverman |
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"riverman" wrote in message
So I had the bright idea of contacting some flyfishing outfitters in Mongolia to see if any of them would be interested in hosting us; providing shuttle and transport services, doing the food shop, etc. Sounds outstanding, but how do you say, "This river don't go to Aintree" in Mongolian? :-) Joe F. |
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"riverman" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 1:00 am, "JT" wrote: "riverman" wrote in message ups.com... It's cold as hell here in the NW and there isn't a thing to post about! Da can't get a rise out of anyone on his Fly Names, Wolfie can't get a flame war started with Ken, the expo sounds like a flop and it hasn't even started, and cabin fever is on the rise. It's just down right frinkin boring around roff.... JT Hmm, you probably don't want to hear that I've set up a week long canoe/fishing trip to Mongolia this June, then. ;-j --riverman Details man... Details....! I have a bunch of neat $hit planned for June too! However, with tomorrows forecast of morning lows below zero, it just seems like years away! JT Ya want details...details ya get. In an effort to primarily satisfy my longing for canoeing, especially in a place (HK) that has no rivers larger than a trickle, I got together with several other open boaters and we started reviewing rivers in Tibet, Nepal, western China and India for a late June trip this summer. It turned out that either the logistics or geology were insurmountable; most of the rivers off the south side of the Himalayan Massif either run hellaciously big, or dry up to a rock-filled empty gorge immediately after the snow melts. The only canoeable stretches are downstream, among the populations and pollutions, and though the humid swamplands. Additionally, setting up shuttle logistics from here was just too hard to do. Also, it seems that there is a serious deficit of canoes in this hemisphere. So I had the bright idea of contacting some flyfishing outfitters in Mongolia to see if any of them would be interested in hosting us; providing shuttle and transport services, doing the food shop, etc. Most of the outfitters were not interested; they wanted to sign us up for one of their commercial trips (mostly using rafts). Ordinarily, I would just hop on board, but the main emphasis of this trip is supposed to be a Canoe Expedition more than a fishing trip. Unfortunately, it also seemed that none of them have canoes. Then one particular outfitter rose to the challenge. He's looking for some sort of niche that all the other outfitters don't occupy, so I convinced him that running canoe trips on one of his fishing rivers would entice a whole new group of adventurers to do business with him. We certainly are interested in fishing along the way, but we really want to see the countryside by boat, and I know that there are many like us out there. One thing is leading to another, and the way it stands now is that he is fully onboard. I'm advising him on some canoes to buy (solo and tandem models), and he is contacting manufacturers to see if he can get a good pro-deal to be the first person to import canoes into Mongolia. He is setting us up with a 7-day onriver itinerary, providing transport and logistics, and sending a fishing guide along with us. We'll train the guide on how to run a river trip out of canoes (no raft support), and the guide will help those of us who fish get into some taimen. We also will take photos for his brochures, send some along pics to the equipment manufacturers, and write an article for Canoe and Kayak magazine. I might also write something for a Flyfishing magazine, if any of you have any leads on editors or how to submit to them. So far, I have 3-4 teachers who are also open boaters on the definite list, one of the officers of the China Exploration Society, and a National Geographic photographer. I've contacted a couple of equipment manufacturers (LL Bean and Lincoln Canoes) where I have some contacts about getting some equipment sponsorships, and we're working with the school to see if we can get some discount airfares through official channels. As much as I love flyfishing, this is more than just a fishing trip. Its hopefully going to be the first all-canoe expedition run on this particular river (although the entire stretch we are doing is regularly done in inflatables), but we will, of course, fish along the way. Hopefully, it will become an annual event where I can work with this outfitter and run a different stretch of water each year. I'll keep you guys updated as the plan evolves. 80% of it is still in the planning stages, but the biggest hurdle (getting an outfitter to agree to import boats) has been passed. --riverman well, what? No kayaks? john |
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On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 11:37:50 GMT, "rb608"
wrote: "riverman" wrote in message So I had the bright idea of contacting some flyfishing outfitters in Mongolia to see if any of them would be interested in hosting us; providing shuttle and transport services, doing the food shop, etc. Sounds outstanding, but how do you say, "This river don't go to Aintree" in Mongolian? :-) Oh, Lordy...I can hear the, um, dueling ruans now...and I'd suggest he learn what "he shore does have a purdy wai guo mouth..." sounds like in Mongolian, too... Seriously, though, it sounds like a blast. And Myron - have you thought about contacting some of the smaller equipment companies, like TFO, Tibor, etc., as well as some larger, non-sports companies, like Dell, Amazon, Wal-Mart, etc. If this thing is gonna get a photoshoot, and you've an interest in sponsorships, you might as well become the insert NASCAR driver name here of Mongolian canoeing. And FWIW, you might be able to get airline interest sponsorship; airlines are drooling over the potential of China-related air travel, and the Chinese airlines are turning to American low-cost/regional airlines, like Southwest and Jet Blue for advice. The short story is that such a novel "expedition" might garner some interest from airlines. I have some other ideas, if you'd care to take it to email. TC, R Joe F. |
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Wolfgang wrote:
On Feb 1, 8:36 pm, 13thchoise wrote: jeff wrote: Wolfgang wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... If some of the people on Wayno's "light in the darkness" list would learn the judicious use of the killfile as I have they might find roff quite a bit more pleasant. Yeah, there's nothing quite like plucking your eyes out to make the world a more attractive place. Wolfgang i see stupid people. :( the seventh sense... Mirror Dumbass. Brilliant -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"13thchoise" wrote in message .. . Wolfgang wrote: On Feb 1, 8:36 pm, 13thchoise wrote: jeff wrote: Wolfgang wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... If some of the people on Wayno's "light in the darkness" list would learn the judicious use of the killfile as I have they might find roff quite a bit more pleasant. Yeah, there's nothing quite like plucking your eyes out to make the world a more attractive place. Wolfgang i see stupid people. :( the seventh sense... Mirror Dumbass. Brilliant Dumbass. Wolfgang |
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"riverman" wrote in message oups.com... I'll keep you guys updated as the plan evolves. 80% of it is still in the planning stages, but the biggest hurdle (getting an outfitter to agree to import boats) has been passed. --riverman Wow, sounds like an awesome trip Riverman, I look forward to the TR with photos, etc... upon your return. Thanks, JT |
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Wolfgang wrote:
"13thchoise" wrote in message .. . Wolfgang wrote: On Feb 1, 8:36 pm, 13thchoise wrote: jeff wrote: Wolfgang wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... If some of the people on Wayno's "light in the darkness" list would learn the judicious use of the killfile as I have they might find roff quite a bit more pleasant. Yeah, there's nothing quite like plucking your eyes out to make the world a more attractive place. Wolfgang i see stupid people. :( the seventh sense... Mirror Dumbass. Brilliant Dumbass. Witty -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Feb 2, 5:56 pm, 13thchoise wrote:
Wolfgang wrote: "13thchoise" wrote in message . .. Wolfgang wrote: On Feb 1, 8:36 pm, 13thchoise wrote: jeff wrote: Wolfgang wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message gy.net... If some of the people on Wayno's "light in the darkness" list would learn the judicious use of the killfile as I have they might find roff quite a bit more pleasant. Yeah, there's nothing quite like plucking your eyes out to make the world a more attractive place. Wolfgang i see stupid people. :( the seventh sense... Mirror Dumbass. Brilliant Dumbass. Witty -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On Feb 2, 5:56 pm, 13thchoise wrote:
Wolfgang wrote: "13thchoise" wrote in message . .. Wolfgang wrote: On Feb 1, 8:36 pm, 13thchoise wrote: jeff wrote: Wolfgang wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message gy.net... If some of the people on Wayno's "light in the darkness" list would learn the judicious use of the killfile as I have they might find roff quite a bit more pleasant. Yeah, there's nothing quite like plucking your eyes out to make the world a more attractive place. Wolfgang i see stupid people. :( the seventh sense... Mirror Dumbass. Brilliant Dumbass. Witty -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Dumbass. Wolfgang |
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On Feb 2, 7:37*pm, "rb608" wrote:
"riverman" wrote in message So I had the bright idea of contacting some flyfishing outfitters in Mongolia to see if any of them would be interested in hosting us; providing shuttle and transport services, doing the food shop, etc. Sounds outstanding, but how do you say, "This river don't go to Aintree" in Mongolian? *:-) Joe F. сковывать подарок t го Aintree. But what's that mean? --riverman |
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Ya want details...details ya get.
In an effort to primarily satisfy my longing for canoeing, especially in a place (HK) that has no rivers larger than a trickle, I got together with several other open boaters and we started reviewing rivers in Tibet, Nepal, western China and India for a late June trip this summer. It turned out that either the logistics or geology were insurmountable; most of the rivers off the south side of the Himalayan Massif either run hellaciously big, or dry up to a rock-filled empty gorge immediately after the snow melts. The only canoeable stretches are downstream, among the populations and pollutions, and though the humid swamplands. Additionally, setting up shuttle logistics from here was just too hard to do. Also, it seems that there is a serious deficit of canoes in this hemisphere. So I had the bright idea of contacting some flyfishing outfitters in Mongolia to see if any of them would be interested in hosting us; providing shuttle and transport services, doing the food shop, etc. Most of the outfitters were not interested; they wanted to sign us up for one of their commercial trips (mostly using rafts). Ordinarily, I would just hop on board, but the main emphasis of this trip is supposed to be a Canoe Expedition more than a fishing trip. Unfortunately, it also seemed that none of them have canoes. Then one particular outfitter rose to the challenge. He's looking for some sort of niche that all the other outfitters don't occupy, so I convinced him that running canoe trips on one of his fishing rivers would entice a whole new group of adventurers to do business with him. We certainly are interested in fishing along the way, but we really want to see the countryside by boat, and I know that there are many like us out there. One thing is leading to another, and the way it stands now is that he is fully onboard. I'm advising him on some canoes to buy (solo and tandem models), and he is contacting manufacturers to see if he can get a good pro-deal to be the first person to import canoes into Mongolia. He is setting us up with a 7-day onriver itinerary, providing transport and logistics, and sending a fishing guide along with us. We'll train the guide on how to run a river trip out of canoes (no raft support), and the guide will help those of us who fish get into some taimen. We also will take photos for his brochures, send some along pics to the equipment manufacturers, and write an article for Canoe and Kayak magazine. I might also write something for a Flyfishing magazine, if any of you have any leads on editors or how to submit to them. So far, I have 3-4 teachers who are also open boaters on the definite list, one of the officers of the China Exploration Society, and a National Geographic photographer. I've contacted a couple of equipment manufacturers (LL Bean and Lincoln Canoes) where I have some contacts about getting some equipment sponsorships, and we're working with the school to see if we can get some discount airfares through official channels. As much as I love flyfishing, this is more than just a fishing trip. Its hopefully going to be the first all-canoe expedition run on this particular river (although the entire stretch we are doing is regularly done in inflatables), but we will, of course, fish along the way. Hopefully, it will become an annual event where I can work with this outfitter and run a different stretch of water each year. I'll keep you guys updated as the plan evolves. 80% of it is still in the planning stages, but the biggest hurdle (getting an outfitter to agree to import boats) has been passed. --riverman- Hide quoted text - Not one thing snipped. This is more than a dream trip. Good luck with this. Please keep us apprised. Frank Reid |
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In article .com,
"riverman" wrote: сковывать подарок t го gift t GO forged aintree according to cyber tran so I guessing THAT ain't right |
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"riverman" wrote in message
????????? ??????? t ?? Aintree. But what's that mean? Surely you jest, but in case not - the (I thought well-known) quote is from the movie "Deliverance". Four men set out in canoes to explore a wild river in the deep backwoods of some southern US state (GA?) before it is dammed for a reservoir & lost forever. Their destination take-out is the town of Aintree. They meet up with some less than savory locals, and unpleasant things occur, the most notable of which ends up with Ned Beatty in his tidy whities squealing like a pig. Overall, it's a rather good movie based on a novel by James Dickey, and perhaps analogous to your trip (hopefully sans the unpleasant encounter with the locals.) Joe F. |
where have my friends gone?
On Feb 2, 10:53 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 11:37:50 GMT, "rb608" wrote: "riverman" wrote in message So I had the bright idea of contacting some flyfishing outfitters in Mongolia to see if any of them would be interested in hosting us; providing shuttle and transport services, doing the food shop, etc. Sounds outstanding, but how do you say, "This river don't go to Aintree" in Mongolian? :-) Oh, Lordy...I can hear the, um, dueling ruans now...and I'd suggest he learn what "he shore does have a purdy wai guo mouth..." sounds like in Mongolian, too... Seriously, though, it sounds like a blast. And Myron - have you thought about contacting some of the smaller equipment companies, like TFO, Tibor, etc., as well as some larger, non-sports companies, like Dell, Amazon, Wal-Mart, etc. If this thing is gonna get a photoshoot, and you've an interest in sponsorships, you might as well become the insert NASCAR driver name here of Mongolian canoeing. And FWIW, you might be able to get airline interest sponsorship; airlines are drooling over the potential of China-related air travel, and the Chinese airlines are turning to American low-cost/regional airlines, like Southwest and Jet Blue for advice. The short story is that such a novel "expedition" might garner some interest from airlines. I have some other ideas, if you'd care to take it to email. TC, R These all sound like interesting ideas, rdean. Like they say...cast your net far and wide, and see what happens. --riverman |
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