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QUOTE If Mike can not take criticism, he
shouldn't post here. LaCourse" END

Dave LaCourse
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From: (Dave LaCourse)
Date: 13 Dec 2002 21:26:37 GMT
Local: Fri, Dec 13 2002 11:26 pm
Subject: Thoughts on George Gehrke
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rw writes:
You forgot "pompous buffoon."

Better than pompous ball-less buffoon elitist.

Your trouble, Steve, is you can dish it out, stir the pot - your famous for it
- but you can't, won't, take criticism. As much of a friend that Fortenberry
is, what he said was inexcusable. When you had him face to face, you should
have knocked him on his ass, or at least tried to. You didn't. You lost my
respect at that point.

I don't like you, and I am sure you feel the same towards me. So, let us stop
this ****ing contest and go on with something else. These pages have had their
fill with ****ing contests lately.

End quote..............


Heh heh....seems to me you aint perzackly the best one to be dishin out advice.

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Anonymous wrote:

Your trouble, Steve, is you can dish it out, stir the pot - your famous for it
- but you can't, won't, take criticism.

Uh, do I know you, Mr. Anonymous?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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"Anonymous" wrote in message
er.mixmin.net...

Heh heh....seems to me you aint perzackly the best one to be dishin out
advice.

actually, he is damned near ideal. He has been through this himself, taken
some lumps, had his moments, and still can come back with restraint,
dignity, class and humility.
Some others never accept the realities of this place.
I can remember times when Dave said "enough" of posting here, but never said
"I will NEVER return". Mike has done so, what, about 18 times?
Let me take this chance to thank David for the kind words of praise
regarding local expertise(mine is vastly overdone, but thanks for your
kudos), and point a VERY key point out. As Dave said, a lot of folks here
post good Trip Reports and banter about fly fishing and fly tying. Read
their posts and next time, notice this: very seldom do words like "always",
"never" or other absolutes come up. A lot of words like, "I might be
wrong","perhaps" and the like are written. Only one current poster seems to
come to ROFF and write as if he is imparting the wisdom of the Gods,
suitable to engrave on holy tablets. To my knowledge, only one current
poster has at any time mentioned his highly regarded reputation in the world
of fly fishing. Only one has come to this place and informed all the others
that they don't know anything about fly fishing(well, a couple, three have
joined in, but they remain anonymous), which was, if you read back a bit,
the trigger for me to jump into this thing. Now, I am only speaking for
myself, but arrogance and pomposity **** me off, pure and simple. And,
sadly, that is how I view Mike Connor's ROFF legacy. Sad, as I enjoyed his
doggerel, gleaned info from his observations at times, and bore him no ill
will. Hell, I had the famous Dumbo exchange a few years back, but buried the
hatchet publicly and privately with him. I never really cared about the
Homosexuality opinions, even if I shared Scott's surprise that he expressed
them(still, it was his right to do so, and thus his
lot to have to defend them, as well). Sad, truly sad, it is that we are left
to remember an unstable, intemperate outburst as the current final chapter,
following a period in which he seems to have discovered his own
infallability. Maybe after a period of sober reflection, that won't be the
case........
......ever hopeful,
Tom

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On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 02:06:40 -0000, Anonymous
wrote:

QUOTE If Mike can not take criticism, he
shouldn't post here. LaCourse" END

Dave LaCourse
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From: (Dave LaCourse)
Date: 13 Dec 2002 21:26:37 GMT
Local: Fri, Dec 13 2002 11:26 pm
Subject: Thoughts on George Gehrke
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rw writes:
You forgot "pompous buffoon."

Better than pompous ball-less buffoon elitist.

Your trouble, Steve, is you can dish it out, stir the pot - your famous for it
- but you can't, won't, take criticism. As much of a friend that Fortenberry
is, what he said was inexcusable. When you had him face to face, you should
have knocked him on his ass, or at least tried to. You didn't. You lost my
respect at that point.

I don't like you, and I am sure you feel the same towards me. So, let us stop
this ****ing contest and go on with something else. These pages have had their
fill with ****ing contests lately.

End quote..............


Heh heh....seems to me you aint perzackly the best one to be dishin out advice.

It's called "life", Mike. You don't have one. Gehrke was a choir boy
compared to your insanity/illness. George at least had a sense of
humor. You are stuck with you. Pity, really.

Rw and I don't care much for each other, but that doesn't make a hill
of beans. There are some folks on roff who do not see eye to eye on
many things, but none of them are insane, and all of them would fish
together. I'd fish with rw, but I wouldn't fish with you.

I made my peace with George before he died. Too bad you didn't. It
must be a terrible thing carrying all that hate around inside. Must
be like swallowing a size 2 treble hook every day.

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On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:24:25 -0600, rw
wrote:

Uh, do I know you, Mr. Anonymous?

Mike was quoting me, rw, from something I posted a few years ago.
Read it again and it will make sense.

D.

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Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:24:25 -0600, rw
wrote:


Uh, do I know you, Mr. Anonymous?


Mike was quoting me, rw, from something I posted a few years ago.
Read it again and it will make sense.

Yeah, well, crap flows around and around.

We've had our differences, Dave. Mostly political. Maybe we will in the
future, too, but I doubt it. Whatever. I don't care about that any
longer, at least on ROFF.

This ROFF forum is strange. I've met my best fishing friends here --
people whom I'd never have met anywhere else, ever. No way.

I've fished with them in Belize and Alaska and the Florida Keys and all
though the Rocky Mountain West and God knows where else. All over the
place. It's been a trip, and it will continue, with or without ROFF,
thank you very much.

Why has this place turned into such a ********? I suppose it's the
inevitable nature of Usenet.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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"rw" wrote in message
m...

...Why has this place turned into such a ********?

It hasn't. It is, among other things, and as it has always been, a place
where ****bags can dump their load and then whine about getting some of
their own back. For those who see this as a problem, the solution should be
obvious. Obviously, it isn't. This says little about the nature of the
place but speaks volumes about those who would have us believe that they are
forced to participate against their wills.

I suppose it's the inevitable nature of Usenet.

It is the nature of unmoderated Usenet groups that they are essentially
democratic. Democracy is unpopular. Sucks to be you.

Wolfgang
who is eager to discover whether stevie has learned to learn......but won't
be holding his breath.

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To my knowledge, only one current
poster has at any time mentioned his highly regarded reputation in the world
of fly fishing.

I've got a "highly regarded reputation in world of fly fishing" and
you all mention it all of the time. Whats up with that?
Frank "Full" Reid

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"Flytyer37" wrote in message
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I've got a "highly regarded reputation in world of fly fishing" and
you all mention it all of the time. Whats up with that?
Frank "Full" Reid


WE mention it, not you(generally). Key difference, plus
your reputation is largely built on self-deprecation, a concept that has
eluded Mr.Connor, at least in everything I have read of his........
Tom

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Tom Littleton wrote:

WE mention it, not you(generally). Key difference, plus
your reputation is largely built on self-deprecation, a concept that has
eluded Mr.Connor, at least in everything I have read of his........

Mr. Connor is the undisputed master of unintentional self deprecation.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
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"Flytyer37" wrote in message
ups.com...
I've got a "highly regarded reputation in world of fly fishing" and
you all mention it all of the time. Whats up with that?
Frank "Full" Reid


WE mention it, not you(generally). Key difference, plus
your reputation is largely built on self-deprecation, a concept that has
eluded Mr.Connor, at least in everything I have read of his........

You misspelled "self-destruction."

Wolfgang
from the accuracy in reporting desk.

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"rw" wrote in message
...
Tom Littleton wrote:

WE mention it, not you(generally). Key difference, plus
your reputation is largely built on self-deprecation, a concept that has
eluded Mr.Connor, at least in everything I have read of his........

Mr. Connor is the undisputed master of unintentional self deprecation.

Nope.

Wolfgang