Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

http://www.taylorgifts.com/prodetail...6&itemno=26688

He's hawking total crap now. Ever since he didn't grant that dying boy his
fishing wish, he's lost it man, totally lost it.




winnard

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

On Apr 6, 4:36 am, "winnard" wrote:
http://www.taylorgifts.com/prodetail...6&itemno=26688

He's hawking total crap now.

Remember how he used to hawk Boogie Bags and the Helicopter Lures?
Ol' Anything-For-A-Buck Roland learned everything he knows about
marketing from Ronco.

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

"winnard" wrote in message


Ever since he didn't grant that dying boy his
fishing wish,

More info please.

My wife is a pediatrician, and has had some experience with celebrities not
showing up in these circumstances. Even sometime when they have said they
would.


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



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Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
.. .

"winnard" wrote in message


Ever since he didn't grant that dying boy his
fishing wish,

More info please.

My wife is a pediatrician, and has had some experience with celebrities
not
showing up in these circumstances. Even sometime when they have said they
would.


I can't find anything on Google about it, but in the early 80s, as legend
has it, a dying kid made a request thru the Make-A-Wish foundation, to go
fishing with his idol, Roland Martin. Roland said he didn't have time to
mess with the kid. Anyway, Bill Dance and some other anglers took the kid
fishing, when Roland heard what an ass he was portrayed by the public, he
told the kid he'd take him fishing, and the kid told him, 'No thanks'.



winnard

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

"winnard" wrote in message
...

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
.. .

"winnard" wrote in message


Ever since he didn't grant that dying boy his
fishing wish,

More info please.

My wife is a pediatrician, and has had some experience with celebrities
not
showing up in these circumstances. Even sometime when they have said
they
would.


I can't find anything on Google about it, but in the early 80s, as legend
has it, a dying kid made a request thru the Make-A-Wish foundation, to go
fishing with his idol, Roland Martin. Roland said he didn't have time to
mess with the kid. Anyway, Bill Dance and some other anglers took the kid
fishing, when Roland heard what an ass he was portrayed by the public, he
told the kid he'd take him fishing, and the kid told him, 'No thanks'.

Interesting. I won't be repeating that though unless I were to see a
confirmation somewhere.


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com






--
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Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
.. .
"winnard" wrote in message
...

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
.. .

"winnard" wrote in message


Ever since he didn't grant that dying boy his
fishing wish,

More info please.

My wife is a pediatrician, and has had some experience with celebrities
not
showing up in these circumstances. Even sometime when they have said
they
would.


I can't find anything on Google about it, but in the early 80s, as
legend
has it, a dying kid made a request thru the Make-A-Wish foundation, to
go
fishing with his idol, Roland Martin. Roland said he didn't have time
to
mess with the kid. Anyway, Bill Dance and some other anglers took the
kid
fishing, when Roland heard what an ass he was portrayed by the public,
he
told the kid he'd take him fishing, and the kid told him, 'No thanks'.

Interesting. I won't be repeating that though unless I were to see a
confirmation somewhere.


I've heard it from a dozen people, but it might be one of those legends.


winnard

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

On Apr 6, 11:41 am, "winnard" wrote:
"Bob La Londe" wrote in s.com...



"winnard" wrote in message
...

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
. ..

"winnard" wrote in message

Ever since he didn't grant that dying boy his
fishing wish,

More info please.

My wife is a pediatrician, and has had some experience with celebrities
not
showing up in these circumstances. Even sometime when they have said
they
would.

I can't find anything on Google about it, but in the early 80s, as
legend
has it, a dying kid made a request thru the Make-A-Wish foundation, to
go
fishing with his idol, Roland Martin. Roland said he didn't have time
to
mess with the kid. Anyway, Bill Dance and some other anglers took the
kid
fishing, when Roland heard what an ass he was portrayed by the public,
he
told the kid he'd take him fishing, and the kid told him, 'No thanks'.

Interesting. I won't be repeating that though unless I were to see a
confirmation somewhere.

I've heard it from a dozen people, but it might be one of those legends.

winnard


Nothing wrong with making a buck... but those rocket fishing rods look
like REAL crap.
Bill Dance seems to be doing well with his endorsement of lures and
bass pro shops.
Its funny though how the top guys in the bass circuit (meaning with
the most wins) don't seem to be on TV much.

Maybe it takes longer to get the recognition.

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

"Sprattoo" wrote in message SNIP

Nothing wrong with making a buck... but those rocket fishing rods look
like REAL crap.
Bill Dance seems to be doing well with his endorsement of lures and
bass pro shops.
Its funny though how the top guys in the bass circuit (meaning with
the most wins) don't seem to be on TV much.

Maybe it takes longer to get the recognition.


Actually, I don't know it that's true or not. I see Kevin Van Dam, Larry
Nixon, Rick Clunn and Aaron Martins on television all the time. Scott
Martin (Roland's son), Mark Menendez, Paul Elias, and Woo Daves have been
spotted too.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

Bob La Londe wrote:

Interesting. I won't be repeating that though unless I were to see a
confirmation somewhere.



I actually interviewed Roland about the incident at one of the Classics.
Funny, I can recall a lot of the details of the interview, but not which
Classic it was. I know my wife was there, and she didn't come to that
many Classics with me, so it had to be Baltimore, Richmond, Birmingham
or Carolina.

Anyway, according to Roland's telling, which does jibe with the timeline
claimed by the other parties involved, Roland was off on a filming trip
when the request came in, and they basically asked if he was available
on a specific date. His office looked at his schedule and said no, he
was booked up for that period. They (Roland's people) asked if there
were alternative dates and were told no, it had to be those specific
days. They did not make any effort to see of Roland's schedule could be
tinkered with, or contact him and see if he would be willing to try to
reschedule another commitment to make room for that one.

When Roland called the foundation (if memory serves, it wasn't
'Make-a-Wish', but one of its clones) after learning of the request more
than a week later, they were the ones who told him no-thanks, they had
already arranged with someone else to take the kid fishing. I don't
think it was Dance. Might have been Parker. I'd have to listen to a few
hours of taped interviews to find it and check the details, and I can't
even remember what year it was anymore. (Heck, I'm thankful I can still
remember how to catch a fish every now and then.)

Martin's position was that 'his people' screwed up to a certain extent,
but that the people at the foundation were at least partially to blame
for being inflexible as to the date. Supposedly, the date was set in
stone not because of the kid's needs or health concerns, but to coincide
with the schedule of a reporter who was doing a story about the
organization.

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

On Apr 6, 3:36 am, "winnard" wrote:
http://www.taylorgifts.com/prodetail...6&itemno=26688

He's hawking total crap now. Ever since he didn't grant that dying boy his
fishing wish, he's lost it man, totally lost it.

winnard

I have to disagree. I hate Ike's antics BUT he has interested a lot of
kids in fishing. Same with Roland with this TOY. If it gets kids to
try fishing what is the harm? I am glad RichZ clarified the urban
legend. Winnard, not to start a flame war but I hate it when people
pass on accusations with no proof other than everbody else says so.
Reminds me of the story of everywhere there is a major dam divers are
too scared to go back down to work on it because of Catfish, Sturgeon,
Musky (whatever happens to fit the area) 8 feet long or more. I NEVER
pass on a story or an accusation about a person without a google
search at least for confirmation. Living in Minnesota my first 40+
years I have heard every bad story/rumor about Al, Ron, Babe and
others but I have NO PROOF so I do not pass them on! Responsible
people do not spread trash. IMHO. Joe Z.
(sadly no relation to RichZ :-)

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

"Joe Z" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 6, 3:36 am, "winnard" wrote:
http://www.taylorgifts.com/prodetail...6&itemno=26688

He's hawking total crap now. Ever since he didn't grant that dying boy
his
fishing wish, he's lost it man, totally lost it.

winnard

I have to disagree. I hate Ike's antics BUT he has interested a lot of
kids in fishing. Same with Roland with this TOY. If it gets kids to
try fishing what is the harm?

That 'toy' qualifies as crap.


winnard

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

I don't chew my cabbage twice, "Joe Z"

I NEVER
pass on a story or an accusation about a person without a google
search at least for confirmation. Living in Minnesota my first 40+
years I have heard every bad story/rumor about Al, Ron, Babe and
others but I have NO PROOF so I do not pass them on! Responsible
people do not spread trash. IMHO. Joe Z.


I did a Google search on this story, and I found confirmation by a
guy named winnard. It has to be true, I even have a link!

http://tinyurl.com/32hrcn

--
wjlmuttatyeahwhodotcom

"I before E except after C, and E before N in chicken"

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

"Bill Lang" wrote in message
...
I don't chew my cabbage twice, "Joe Z"

I NEVER
pass on a story or an accusation about a person without a google
search at least for confirmation. Living in Minnesota my first 40+
years I have heard every bad story/rumor about Al, Ron, Babe and
others but I have NO PROOF so I do not pass them on! Responsible
people do not spread trash. IMHO. Joe Z.


I did a Google search on this story, and I found confirmation by a
guy named winnard. It has to be true, I even have a link!

http://tinyurl.com/32hrcn


Google dont' lie!


winnard

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 21:08:17 -0500, "winnard" wrote:
"Joe Z" wrote in message
On Apr 6, 3:36 am, "winnard" wrote:

http://www.taylorgifts.com/prodetail...6&itemno=26688
He's hawking total crap now. Ever since he didn't grant that dying boy
his fishing wish, he's lost it man, totally lost it.

I have to disagree. I hate Ike's antics BUT he has interested a lot of
kids in fishing. Same with Roland with this TOY. If it gets kids to
try fishing what is the harm?

That 'toy' qualifies as crap.

We use one for our 24-pound kitten.



--
...."I am certain that most Americans find your whining unbecoming of an NCO.
Thank you for quitting. This country doesn't need your kind of leadership.
Your kind weaken national security."
Charles Beauchamp, 25 Nov 06

...."Yep the Air Force is scraping rock bottom if a psycho like you could be
anywhere near leadership. You work in a training command? No wonder we are
losing the war in Iraq. Yep.....it is your fault. Now put that in your sig
too pussy."
Charles Beauchamp, 19 Feb 07

...."Whatever the standards are today they need to be high enough to
prevent people like you from entering - we've lost enough wars
recently."
Hugh Sullivan, 26 Jan 07

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

On 6 Apr 2007 18:53:22 -0700, "Joe Z" wrote:

On Apr 6, 3:36 am, "winnard" wrote:
http://www.taylorgifts.com/prodetail...6&itemno=26688

He's hawking total crap now. Ever since he didn't grant that dying boy his
fishing wish, he's lost it man, totally lost it.

winnard

I have to disagree. I hate Ike's antics BUT he has interested a lot of
kids in fishing. Same with Roland with this TOY. If it gets kids to
try fishing what is the harm? I am glad RichZ clarified the urban
legend. Winnard, not to start a flame war but I hate it when people
pass on accusations with no proof other than everbody else says so.
Reminds me of the story of everywhere there is a major dam divers are
too scared to go back down to work on it because of Catfish, Sturgeon,
Musky (whatever happens to fit the area) 8 feet long or more.

I'm not much for rumors...but I love legends and stories. And I
thought everyone knew there were 8 foot long catfish (longer than
human beings)out there. And, I've actually seen and caught (well,
sort of) a sturgeon that was well over 14 feet long, but thats another
story...

Here's a vote that Martin's Rocket Fishing Rod is totally crap
and a real annoyance to future fishermen everywhere...or at least
their dads. Every time this commercial comes on TV, my 4 year old son
is totally captured by it and gives me this silly look of "C'mon
dad...doesn't this rocket rod look like the greatest thing in the
world...how can we not have one of these...let's go get one now!"

I then have to explain to him that he's got better fishing rods
(solid 5'6" graphite and boron rod) and reels (Zebco 22 gold and Zebco
33 gold) than that "piece of crap" and that its important to trust me
on things like that and not buy into every artsy fartsy thing he sees
on TV or being hawked by people out there. (you really need to put
yourself in place of my son for this moment...:)

IMO, products like this that are junk are likely to leave kids
(and potentially their parents) disappointed about fishing and more
likely to turn away from the sport.

Wanna help the sport grow and youngsters to learn to love
fishing? (gets on stump)

Denounce shabby fishing products and promote solid fishing
products. Encourage your kids to buy and use good equipment and not
"Snoopy" rod and reels and "Cost-cutter" line. Tie on the very best
lures for your kids and make sure they stick it right in the middle of
the thickest brush piles. Go fish places where they will catch "lots"
of fish. Start out by taking them for small periods of time until its
them that are wanting to stay out longer. Let them reel in the
majority of your fish until they offer to let you reel in their fish!
Take lots of pictures of fish. Brag on your children's fishing
abilities. Figure out ways to make every outing (especially low
number outings) an "adventure" and as fun as possible. Teach them
how to drive the boat and use a trolling motor ASAP. Come winter, buy
them a good computer fishing game and ask him/her how they did on a
particular outing. Have them learn to "grow" their own tackle box...a
lure at a time. Teach them to be proficient with one lure before
moving on to another. Take binoculars and a small picture book on
birds with you so they learn about the wildlife and have something to
do if they get bored a tad. Have a contest as to who's the first
person to see the next deer, turtle, turkey, snake, etc. Bring along
some goose and duck and turkey calls so they can practice calling them
in. Take them just as often (if not more often) "bank-fishing" as
supposed to fishing out of the boat. Have them shake hands with
fellow fishermen when taking out and putting in...and learn how our
fishing culture can be downright stimulating. Teach them the patience
of letting the worm drop all the way down to the bottom. Be prepared
to switch up and do another type of fishing if the current type of
fishing isn't working out like you hoped. Take them to the boat show
to look at all the crazy baits. Show them that you don't need to buy
every single crazy bait out there to catch fish. Have plenty of pogey
bait (food) and drinks for them. Ask them if they want to look at
the Cabela's or Bass Pro Shop catalog while they are on the jon...
Teach your children that of 12 disciples, Jesus chose 11 who were
fishermen. Invite your neighbors and their children fishing. Camp
out on a lake somewhere and teach them about catfishing. Let them
"fish for frogs" if thats what they want to do. Later, teach them how
to fish with a frog. Let them learn the importance of taking care of
our environment and make sure they help clean the boat out after every
trip. Remember their eyes are focused on you at all times. Teach
them to be the role model you wish all fishermen were. Let them help
change the line from your reels and tell them why it is important to
change your line frequently. Take them fishing at night when their is
a full moon. When its early morning and there's hardly any
noise...ask them if they can hear all the sounds around them. Talk
about your past fishing trips. Along with the music of George Jones,
Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard, Marty Robbins, Johnny Horton, Conway
Twitty, Red Sovine and Toby Keith...make sure that they listen to some
Hank too (as in Hank Williams, Hank Snow, Hank Locklin, Hank Thompson
and, of course, Hank Jr.). Tell them why you still fish with mostly
older fishing rods n' reels and fishing lures. Break out the long
"crappie" poles for them every once in a while. Let them know why it
is important to sometimes "take the girl" too. Show them pictures of
you and your dad holding fish up when you were a kid. Quiz them on
how fast you reel a worm versus a spinnerbait or a crankbait. Make
sure you have a good supply of beatle spins onhand as well as a box of
bee moths. Always have 2 rods rigged up for panfishing. Show them
the beauty of using a fly rod. Take them to a shallow creek and help
them look for crawdads under rocks. Let them take a few of the
smaller rocks home with them. Give them a cool fishing cap with a
leaping bass on the front of it. Ask them where they think the fish
might be at. Fish a spot where they think the fish might be at.
Explain to them the difference between a chartreuse crankbait and a
firetiger crankbait. Do the same with a shad crankbait and a chrome
crankbait. While holding the worm above your mouth, ask them if a
particular plastic worm "looks good enough to eat?" Ask them if they
like to hear some music. Then sing to them your prettiest country
song... Ask em' who the best fishermen in the world is. Take their
mom out fishing too. "Race" up the bank when its time to quit
fishing. Make sure they carry a rod n' reel with them. Sometimes,
its alright to let them see you clean some fish. Let them throw fish
back. Teach them how to hold the fish right when they are throwing the
fish back. Teach them how important it is to say a prayer of "thanks
to the Lord" for everything that he's given you at dinner time. Kiss
your children and tell them your best fishing story before they go to
bed at night. When they wake up the next morning, ask them how many
bass did they catch in their dreams.

--
Dwayne E. Cooper, Atty at Law
Indianapolis, IN
Email:
Web Page: http://www.cooperlegalservices.com
Personal Fishing Web Page: http://www.hoosierwebsites.com/OnTheWater
Dog Fishing: http://www.hoosierwebsites.com/onthe...fishing040.htm
1st Annual ROFB Classic Winner

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

Dwayne,

That's one of the best messages I've ever seen in this group.

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

"RichZ" wrote in message
Dwayne,

That's one of the best messages I've ever seen in this group.

Rich, Dwayne doesn't post much here, but in the past has expressed very
strongly founded opinions on this subject. He firmly, and correctly in my
view, believes if more kids were taught to fish we would have far fewer
social problems with them a youths and later as adults. Sort of what the
"First Tee" tries to do with golf as a medium of instruction and
development.

I have a small pond in my neighborhood association on which I fish
frequently. I wish I could count the number of times young kids ask me to
take them fishing when I go out in my port-a-bote. I never see the fathers
of these kids spend much time with them at all much less take them out on
the water. A damned shame in my opinion.

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

"Dwayne E. Cooper" wrote in message SNIP

I'm not much for rumors...but I love legends and stories. And I
thought everyone knew there were 8 foot long catfish (longer than
human beings)out there. And, I've actually seen and caught (well,
sort of) a sturgeon that was well over 14 feet long, but thats another
story...

Here's a vote that Martin's Rocket Fishing Rod is totally crap
and a real annoyance to future fishermen everywhere...or at least
their dads. Every time this commercial comes on TV, my 4 year old son
is totally captured by it and gives me this silly look of "C'mon
dad...doesn't this rocket rod look like the greatest thing in the
world...how can we not have one of these...let's go get one now!"

I then have to explain to him that he's got better fishing rods
(solid 5'6" graphite and boron rod) and reels (Zebco 22 gold and Zebco
33 gold) than that "piece of crap" and that its important to trust me
on things like that and not buy into every artsy fartsy thing he sees
on TV or being hawked by people out there. (you really need to put
yourself in place of my son for this moment...:)

IMO, products like this that are junk are likely to leave kids
(and potentially their parents) disappointed about fishing and more
likely to turn away from the sport.

Wanna help the sport grow and youngsters to learn to love
fishing? (gets on stump)

Denounce shabby fishing products and promote solid fishing
products. Encourage your kids to buy and use good equipment and not
"Snoopy" rod and reels and "Cost-cutter" line. Tie on the very best
lures for your kids and make sure they stick it right in the middle of
the thickest brush piles. Go fish places where they will catch "lots"
of fish. Start out by taking them for small periods of time until its
them that are wanting to stay out longer. Let them reel in the
majority of your fish until they offer to let you reel in their fish!
Take lots of pictures of fish. Brag on your children's fishing
abilities. Figure out ways to make every outing (especially low
number outings) an "adventure" and as fun as possible. Teach them
how to drive the boat and use a trolling motor ASAP. Come winter, buy
them a good computer fishing game and ask him/her how they did on a
particular outing. Have them learn to "grow" their own tackle box...a
lure at a time. Teach them to be proficient with one lure before
moving on to another. Take binoculars and a small picture book on
birds with you so they learn about the wildlife and have something to
do if they get bored a tad. Have a contest as to who's the first
person to see the next deer, turtle, turkey, snake, etc. Bring along
some goose and duck and turkey calls so they can practice calling them
in. Take them just as often (if not more often) "bank-fishing" as
supposed to fishing out of the boat. Have them shake hands with
fellow fishermen when taking out and putting in...and learn how our
fishing culture can be downright stimulating. Teach them the patience
of letting the worm drop all the way down to the bottom. Be prepared
to switch up and do another type of fishing if the current type of
fishing isn't working out like you hoped. Take them to the boat show
to look at all the crazy baits. Show them that you don't need to buy
every single crazy bait out there to catch fish. Have plenty of pogey
bait (food) and drinks for them. Ask them if they want to look at
the Cabela's or Bass Pro Shop catalog while they are on the jon...
Teach your children that of 12 disciples, Jesus chose 11 who were
fishermen. Invite your neighbors and their children fishing. Camp
out on a lake somewhere and teach them about catfishing. Let them
"fish for frogs" if thats what they want to do. Later, teach them how
to fish with a frog. Let them learn the importance of taking care of
our environment and make sure they help clean the boat out after every
trip. Remember their eyes are focused on you at all times. Teach
them to be the role model you wish all fishermen were. Let them help
change the line from your reels and tell them why it is important to
change your line frequently. Take them fishing at night when their is
a full moon. When its early morning and there's hardly any
noise...ask them if they can hear all the sounds around them. Talk
about your past fishing trips. Along with the music of George Jones,
Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard, Marty Robbins, Johnny Horton, Conway
Twitty, Red Sovine and Toby Keith...make sure that they listen to some
Hank too (as in Hank Williams, Hank Snow, Hank Locklin, Hank Thompson
and, of course, Hank Jr.). Tell them why you still fish with mostly
older fishing rods n' reels and fishing lures. Break out the long
"crappie" poles for them every once in a while. Let them know why it
is important to sometimes "take the girl" too. Show them pictures of
you and your dad holding fish up when you were a kid. Quiz them on
how fast you reel a worm versus a spinnerbait or a crankbait. Make
sure you have a good supply of beatle spins onhand as well as a box of
bee moths. Always have 2 rods rigged up for panfishing. Show them
the beauty of using a fly rod. Take them to a shallow creek and help
them look for crawdads under rocks. Let them take a few of the
smaller rocks home with them. Give them a cool fishing cap with a
leaping bass on the front of it. Ask them where they think the fish
might be at. Fish a spot where they think the fish might be at.
Explain to them the difference between a chartreuse crankbait and a
firetiger crankbait. Do the same with a shad crankbait and a chrome
crankbait. While holding the worm above your mouth, ask them if a
particular plastic worm "looks good enough to eat?" Ask them if they
like to hear some music. Then sing to them your prettiest country
song... Ask em' who the best fishermen in the world is. Take their
mom out fishing too. "Race" up the bank when its time to quit
fishing. Make sure they carry a rod n' reel with them. Sometimes,
its alright to let them see you clean some fish. Let them throw fish
back. Teach them how to hold the fish right when they are throwing the
fish back. Teach them how important it is to say a prayer of "thanks
to the Lord" for everything that he's given you at dinner time. Kiss
your children and tell them your best fishing story before they go to
bed at night. When they wake up the next morning, ask them how many
bass did they catch in their dreams.

Amen Brother Cooper, AMEN! :-) That was a fine piece of writing....
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

I second or third that Dwayne. Good WORD !
"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message
...

"Dwayne E. Cooper" wrote in message
SNIP

I'm not much for rumors...but I love legends and stories. And I
thought everyone knew there were 8 foot long catfish (longer than
human beings)out there. And, I've actually seen and caught (well,
sort of) a sturgeon that was well over 14 feet long, but thats another
story...

Here's a vote that Martin's Rocket Fishing Rod is totally crap
and a real annoyance to future fishermen everywhere...or at least
their dads. Every time this commercial comes on TV, my 4 year old son
is totally captured by it and gives me this silly look of "C'mon
dad...doesn't this rocket rod look like the greatest thing in the
world...how can we not have one of these...let's go get one now!"

I then have to explain to him that he's got better fishing rods
(solid 5'6" graphite and boron rod) and reels (Zebco 22 gold and Zebco
33 gold) than that "piece of crap" and that its important to trust me
on things like that and not buy into every artsy fartsy thing he sees
on TV or being hawked by people out there. (you really need to put
yourself in place of my son for this moment...:)

IMO, products like this that are junk are likely to leave kids
(and potentially their parents) disappointed about fishing and more
likely to turn away from the sport.

Wanna help the sport grow and youngsters to learn to love
fishing? (gets on stump)

Denounce shabby fishing products and promote solid fishing
products. Encourage your kids to buy and use good equipment and not
"Snoopy" rod and reels and "Cost-cutter" line. Tie on the very best
lures for your kids and make sure they stick it right in the middle of
the thickest brush piles. Go fish places where they will catch "lots"
of fish. Start out by taking them for small periods of time until its
them that are wanting to stay out longer. Let them reel in the
majority of your fish until they offer to let you reel in their fish!
Take lots of pictures of fish. Brag on your children's fishing
abilities. Figure out ways to make every outing (especially low
number outings) an "adventure" and as fun as possible. Teach them
how to drive the boat and use a trolling motor ASAP. Come winter, buy
them a good computer fishing game and ask him/her how they did on a
particular outing. Have them learn to "grow" their own tackle box...a
lure at a time. Teach them to be proficient with one lure before
moving on to another. Take binoculars and a small picture book on
birds with you so they learn about the wildlife and have something to
do if they get bored a tad. Have a contest as to who's the first
person to see the next deer, turtle, turkey, snake, etc. Bring along
some goose and duck and turkey calls so they can practice calling them
in. Take them just as often (if not more often) "bank-fishing" as
supposed to fishing out of the boat. Have them shake hands with
fellow fishermen when taking out and putting in...and learn how our
fishing culture can be downright stimulating. Teach them the patience
of letting the worm drop all the way down to the bottom. Be prepared
to switch up and do another type of fishing if the current type of
fishing isn't working out like you hoped. Take them to the boat show
to look at all the crazy baits. Show them that you don't need to buy
every single crazy bait out there to catch fish. Have plenty of pogey
bait (food) and drinks for them. Ask them if they want to look at
the Cabela's or Bass Pro Shop catalog while they are on the jon...
Teach your children that of 12 disciples, Jesus chose 11 who were
fishermen. Invite your neighbors and their children fishing. Camp
out on a lake somewhere and teach them about catfishing. Let them
"fish for frogs" if thats what they want to do. Later, teach them how
to fish with a frog. Let them learn the importance of taking care of
our environment and make sure they help clean the boat out after every
trip. Remember their eyes are focused on you at all times. Teach
them to be the role model you wish all fishermen were. Let them help
change the line from your reels and tell them why it is important to
change your line frequently. Take them fishing at night when their is
a full moon. When its early morning and there's hardly any
noise...ask them if they can hear all the sounds around them. Talk
about your past fishing trips. Along with the music of George Jones,
Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard, Marty Robbins, Johnny Horton, Conway
Twitty, Red Sovine and Toby Keith...make sure that they listen to some
Hank too (as in Hank Williams, Hank Snow, Hank Locklin, Hank Thompson
and, of course, Hank Jr.). Tell them why you still fish with mostly
older fishing rods n' reels and fishing lures. Break out the long
"crappie" poles for them every once in a while. Let them know why it
is important to sometimes "take the girl" too. Show them pictures of
you and your dad holding fish up when you were a kid. Quiz them on
how fast you reel a worm versus a spinnerbait or a crankbait. Make
sure you have a good supply of beatle spins onhand as well as a box of
bee moths. Always have 2 rods rigged up for panfishing. Show them
the beauty of using a fly rod. Take them to a shallow creek and help
them look for crawdads under rocks. Let them take a few of the
smaller rocks home with them. Give them a cool fishing cap with a
leaping bass on the front of it. Ask them where they think the fish
might be at. Fish a spot where they think the fish might be at.
Explain to them the difference between a chartreuse crankbait and a
firetiger crankbait. Do the same with a shad crankbait and a chrome
crankbait. While holding the worm above your mouth, ask them if a
particular plastic worm "looks good enough to eat?" Ask them if they
like to hear some music. Then sing to them your prettiest country
song... Ask em' who the best fishermen in the world is. Take their
mom out fishing too. "Race" up the bank when its time to quit
fishing. Make sure they carry a rod n' reel with them. Sometimes,
its alright to let them see you clean some fish. Let them throw fish
back. Teach them how to hold the fish right when they are throwing the
fish back. Teach them how important it is to say a prayer of "thanks
to the Lord" for everything that he's given you at dinner time. Kiss
your children and tell them your best fishing story before they go to
bed at night. When they wake up the next morning, ask them how many
bass did they catch in their dreams.

Amen Brother Cooper, AMEN! :-) That was a fine piece of writing....
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

Joe, I'm trying to find out if this is a good email address or not?

--
Member Of The National Association Of Photoshop Professionals

"Bass_Mr." wrote in message
...
I second or third that Dwayne. Good WORD !
"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message
...

"Dwayne E. Cooper" wrote in message
SNIP

I'm not much for rumors...but I love legends and stories. And I
thought everyone knew there were 8 foot long catfish (longer than
human beings)out there. And, I've actually seen and caught (well,
sort of) a sturgeon that was well over 14 feet long, but thats another
story...

Here's a vote that Martin's Rocket Fishing Rod is totally crap
and a real annoyance to future fishermen everywhere...or at least
their dads. Every time this commercial comes on TV, my 4 year old son
is totally captured by it and gives me this silly look of "C'mon
dad...doesn't this rocket rod look like the greatest thing in the
world...how can we not have one of these...let's go get one now!"

I then have to explain to him that he's got better fishing rods
(solid 5'6" graphite and boron rod) and reels (Zebco 22 gold and Zebco
33 gold) than that "piece of crap" and that its important to trust me
on things like that and not buy into every artsy fartsy thing he sees
on TV or being hawked by people out there. (you really need to put
yourself in place of my son for this moment...:)

IMO, products like this that are junk are likely to leave kids
(and potentially their parents) disappointed about fishing and more
likely to turn away from the sport.

Wanna help the sport grow and youngsters to learn to love
fishing? (gets on stump)

Denounce shabby fishing products and promote solid fishing
products. Encourage your kids to buy and use good equipment and not
"Snoopy" rod and reels and "Cost-cutter" line. Tie on the very best
lures for your kids and make sure they stick it right in the middle of
the thickest brush piles. Go fish places where they will catch "lots"
of fish. Start out by taking them for small periods of time until its
them that are wanting to stay out longer. Let them reel in the
majority of your fish until they offer to let you reel in their fish!
Take lots of pictures of fish. Brag on your children's fishing
abilities. Figure out ways to make every outing (especially low
number outings) an "adventure" and as fun as possible. Teach them
how to drive the boat and use a trolling motor ASAP. Come winter, buy
them a good computer fishing game and ask him/her how they did on a
particular outing. Have them learn to "grow" their own tackle box...a
lure at a time. Teach them to be proficient with one lure before
moving on to another. Take binoculars and a small picture book on
birds with you so they learn about the wildlife and have something to
do if they get bored a tad. Have a contest as to who's the first
person to see the next deer, turtle, turkey, snake, etc. Bring along
some goose and duck and turkey calls so they can practice calling them
in. Take them just as often (if not more often) "bank-fishing" as
supposed to fishing out of the boat. Have them shake hands with
fellow fishermen when taking out and putting in...and learn how our
fishing culture can be downright stimulating. Teach them the patience
of letting the worm drop all the way down to the bottom. Be prepared
to switch up and do another type of fishing if the current type of
fishing isn't working out like you hoped. Take them to the boat show
to look at all the crazy baits. Show them that you don't need to buy
every single crazy bait out there to catch fish. Have plenty of pogey
bait (food) and drinks for them. Ask them if they want to look at
the Cabela's or Bass Pro Shop catalog while they are on the jon...
Teach your children that of 12 disciples, Jesus chose 11 who were
fishermen. Invite your neighbors and their children fishing. Camp
out on a lake somewhere and teach them about catfishing. Let them
"fish for frogs" if thats what they want to do. Later, teach them how
to fish with a frog. Let them learn the importance of taking care of
our environment and make sure they help clean the boat out after every
trip. Remember their eyes are focused on you at all times. Teach
them to be the role model you wish all fishermen were. Let them help
change the line from your reels and tell them why it is important to
change your line frequently. Take them fishing at night when their is
a full moon. When its early morning and there's hardly any
noise...ask them if they can hear all the sounds around them. Talk
about your past fishing trips. Along with the music of George Jones,
Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard, Marty Robbins, Johnny Horton, Conway
Twitty, Red Sovine and Toby Keith...make sure that they listen to some
Hank too (as in Hank Williams, Hank Snow, Hank Locklin, Hank Thompson
and, of course, Hank Jr.). Tell them why you still fish with mostly
older fishing rods n' reels and fishing lures. Break out the long
"crappie" poles for them every once in a while. Let them know why it
is important to sometimes "take the girl" too. Show them pictures of
you and your dad holding fish up when you were a kid. Quiz them on
how fast you reel a worm versus a spinnerbait or a crankbait. Make
sure you have a good supply of beatle spins onhand as well as a box of
bee moths. Always have 2 rods rigged up for panfishing. Show them
the beauty of using a fly rod. Take them to a shallow creek and help
them look for crawdads under rocks. Let them take a few of the
smaller rocks home with them. Give them a cool fishing cap with a
leaping bass on the front of it. Ask them where they think the fish
might be at. Fish a spot where they think the fish might be at.
Explain to them the difference between a chartreuse crankbait and a
firetiger crankbait. Do the same with a shad crankbait and a chrome
crankbait. While holding the worm above your mouth, ask them if a
particular plastic worm "looks good enough to eat?" Ask them if they
like to hear some music. Then sing to them your prettiest country
song... Ask em' who the best fishermen in the world is. Take their
mom out fishing too. "Race" up the bank when its time to quit
fishing. Make sure they carry a rod n' reel with them. Sometimes,
its alright to let them see you clean some fish. Let them throw fish
back. Teach them how to hold the fish right when they are throwing the
fish back. Teach them how important it is to say a prayer of "thanks
to the Lord" for everything that he's given you at dinner time. Kiss
your children and tell them your best fishing story before they go to
bed at night. When they wake up the next morning, ask them how many
bass did they catch in their dreams.

Amen Brother Cooper, AMEN! :-) That was a fine piece of writing....
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

I just sent you an email with two to choose from Jerry.
JP
"Jerry Barton" wrote in message
news:kO2dnTJp1ezyAorbnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@wideopenwest .com...
Joe, I'm trying to find out if this is a good email address or not?

--
Member Of The National Association Of Photoshop Professionals

"Bass_Mr." wrote in message
...
I second or third that Dwayne. Good WORD !
"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message
...

"Dwayne E. Cooper" wrote in message
SNIP

I'm not much for rumors...but I love legends and stories. And I
thought everyone knew there were 8 foot long catfish (longer than
human beings)out there. And, I've actually seen and caught (well,
sort of) a sturgeon that was well over 14 feet long, but thats another
story...

Here's a vote that Martin's Rocket Fishing Rod is totally crap
and a real annoyance to future fishermen everywhere...or at least
their dads. Every time this commercial comes on TV, my 4 year old son
is totally captured by it and gives me this silly look of "C'mon
dad...doesn't this rocket rod look like the greatest thing in the
world...how can we not have one of these...let's go get one now!"

I then have to explain to him that he's got better fishing rods
(solid 5'6" graphite and boron rod) and reels (Zebco 22 gold and Zebco
33 gold) than that "piece of crap" and that its important to trust me
on things like that and not buy into every artsy fartsy thing he sees
on TV or being hawked by people out there. (you really need to put
yourself in place of my son for this moment...:)

IMO, products like this that are junk are likely to leave kids
(and potentially their parents) disappointed about fishing and more
likely to turn away from the sport.

Wanna help the sport grow and youngsters to learn to love
fishing? (gets on stump)

Denounce shabby fishing products and promote solid fishing
products. Encourage your kids to buy and use good equipment and not
"Snoopy" rod and reels and "Cost-cutter" line. Tie on the very best
lures for your kids and make sure they stick it right in the middle of
the thickest brush piles. Go fish places where they will catch "lots"
of fish. Start out by taking them for small periods of time until its
them that are wanting to stay out longer. Let them reel in the
majority of your fish until they offer to let you reel in their fish!
Take lots of pictures of fish. Brag on your children's fishing
abilities. Figure out ways to make every outing (especially low
number outings) an "adventure" and as fun as possible. Teach them
how to drive the boat and use a trolling motor ASAP. Come winter, buy
them a good computer fishing game and ask him/her how they did on a
particular outing. Have them learn to "grow" their own tackle box...a
lure at a time. Teach them to be proficient with one lure before
moving on to another. Take binoculars and a small picture book on
birds with you so they learn about the wildlife and have something to
do if they get bored a tad. Have a contest as to who's the first
person to see the next deer, turtle, turkey, snake, etc. Bring along
some goose and duck and turkey calls so they can practice calling them
in. Take them just as often (if not more often) "bank-fishing" as
supposed to fishing out of the boat. Have them shake hands with
fellow fishermen when taking out and putting in...and learn how our
fishing culture can be downright stimulating. Teach them the patience
of letting the worm drop all the way down to the bottom. Be prepared
to switch up and do another type of fishing if the current type of
fishing isn't working out like you hoped. Take them to the boat show
to look at all the crazy baits. Show them that you don't need to buy
every single crazy bait out there to catch fish. Have plenty of pogey
bait (food) and drinks for them. Ask them if they want to look at
the Cabela's or Bass Pro Shop catalog while they are on the jon...
Teach your children that of 12 disciples, Jesus chose 11 who were
fishermen. Invite your neighbors and their children fishing. Camp
out on a lake somewhere and teach them about catfishing. Let them
"fish for frogs" if thats what they want to do. Later, teach them how
to fish with a frog. Let them learn the importance of taking care of
our environment and make sure they help clean the boat out after every
trip. Remember their eyes are focused on you at all times. Teach
them to be the role model you wish all fishermen were. Let them help
change the line from your reels and tell them why it is important to
change your line frequently. Take them fishing at night when their is
a full moon. When its early morning and there's hardly any
noise...ask them if they can hear all the sounds around them. Talk
about your past fishing trips. Along with the music of George Jones,
Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard, Marty Robbins, Johnny Horton, Conway
Twitty, Red Sovine and Toby Keith...make sure that they listen to some
Hank too (as in Hank Williams, Hank Snow, Hank Locklin, Hank Thompson
and, of course, Hank Jr.). Tell them why you still fish with mostly
older fishing rods n' reels and fishing lures. Break out the long
"crappie" poles for them every once in a while. Let them know why it
is important to sometimes "take the girl" too. Show them pictures of
you and your dad holding fish up when you were a kid. Quiz them on
how fast you reel a worm versus a spinnerbait or a crankbait. Make
sure you have a good supply of beatle spins onhand as well as a box of
bee moths. Always have 2 rods rigged up for panfishing. Show them
the beauty of using a fly rod. Take them to a shallow creek and help
them look for crawdads under rocks. Let them take a few of the
smaller rocks home with them. Give them a cool fishing cap with a
leaping bass on the front of it. Ask them where they think the fish
might be at. Fish a spot where they think the fish might be at.
Explain to them the difference between a chartreuse crankbait and a
firetiger crankbait. Do the same with a shad crankbait and a chrome
crankbait. While holding the worm above your mouth, ask them if a
particular plastic worm "looks good enough to eat?" Ask them if they
like to hear some music. Then sing to them your prettiest country
song... Ask em' who the best fishermen in the world is. Take their
mom out fishing too. "Race" up the bank when its time to quit
fishing. Make sure they carry a rod n' reel with them. Sometimes,
its alright to let them see you clean some fish. Let them throw fish
back. Teach them how to hold the fish right when they are throwing the
fish back. Teach them how important it is to say a prayer of "thanks
to the Lord" for everything that he's given you at dinner time. Kiss
your children and tell them your best fishing story before they go to
bed at night. When they wake up the next morning, ask them how many
bass did they catch in their dreams.

Amen Brother Cooper, AMEN! :-) That was a fine piece of writing....
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 00:30:40 -0400, Dwayne E. Cooper
wrote:

Well said!! IMHO this is worthy of publication in outdoor mags (Field
& Stream?)

Thanks, Dwayne.

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

He's damn near as good at hawking pure unmitigated crap as Bill Dance. I
like Bill Personally, but let's face it (as I've said a million times on
this news group g) Bill would put trebels on a kitchen sink and swear it
was the best drop shot bait in the world if he could get a buck for it. And
he probably could catch something on it if he fished it in that 8million
gallon aquarium he fishes regularly. !

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 21:08:17 -0500, "winnard" puked:


"Joe Z" wrote in message
roups.com...
On Apr 6, 3:36 am, "winnard" wrote:
http://www.taylorgifts.com/prodetail...6&itemno=26688

He's hawking total crap now. Ever since he didn't grant that dying boy
his
fishing wish, he's lost it man, totally lost it.

winnard

I have to disagree. I hate Ike's antics BUT he has interested a lot of
kids in fishing. Same with Roland with this TOY. If it gets kids to
try fishing what is the harm?

That 'toy' qualifies as crap.

And it also qualifies as a gun, which some parents find giving their
children objectionable.

That aside, I think the gimmick that it is a projectile toy is more
than the gimmick that it is a unique fishing rod...

--
lab~rat :-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

"lab~rat :-)" wrote in message SNIP

That 'toy' qualifies as crap.

And it also qualifies as a gun, which some parents find giving their
children objectionable.

That aside, I think the gimmick that it is a projectile toy is more
than the gimmick that it is a unique fishing rod...

My friend Gil is a fishing guide. His three year old grandson was given one
of these by one of his aunts. Gil said the reel actually isn't too bad for
a spincast reel.

What we both find hilarious is the kid won't use it for fishing, he'd rather
hunt the family cat with it! Precocious little bugger.

Gil said that as a fishing tool, it's crap, but for cat hunting, it's pretty
good! :-)
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 07:07:17 -0600, "Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers"
puked:


"lab~rat :-)" wrote in message SNIP

That 'toy' qualifies as crap.

And it also qualifies as a gun, which some parents find giving their
children objectionable.

That aside, I think the gimmick that it is a projectile toy is more
than the gimmick that it is a unique fishing rod...

My friend Gil is a fishing guide. His three year old grandson was given one
of these by one of his aunts. Gil said the reel actually isn't too bad for
a spincast reel.

What we both find hilarious is the kid won't use it for fishing, he'd rather
hunt the family cat with it! Precocious little bugger.

Gil said that as a fishing tool, it's crap, but for cat hunting, it's pretty
good! :-)

Do you need a license for cat hunting?
--
lab~rat :-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

Roland Martin, Fisherman, Has Lost His Freakin' Mind
 

"lab~rat :-)" wrote in message
Do you need a license for cat hunting?


Nope, the kid is under 16! :-)
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com