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Evening,

Apparently, seeds that were planted years ago, are starting to germinate.
I started thinking about fly fishing, started doing a fair amount of
reading. Been a long time denizen of usenet, and have been doing a bit of
lurking, mining the archives. Figured it was time to introduce myself.

Name's Bill. I'm a semi-retired federal beaurocrat living in western
Michigan. I sail, ski, and tour by motorcycle. Been an on again/off again
fisher since childhood - Bass, walleye, perch - mostly on inland lakes.

Found some reasonable sounding advice as to suitable equipment for
beginners. I'm looking at a Sage Launch 9', 5wt pole, and a Ross Cimarron
Large Arbor reel loaded with 5-wt, weight-forward, floating line, 75' of
braided backing and a 9', knotless, tapered leader w/ 4X tippet. I have a
short laundry list of flies with which to start.

The little bit of knowledge I've got stored in my DNA, gleaned from the web
and from reading Jerry Dennis' books suggests that hatches in this area are
imminent. My aunt and cousin are avid fly fishers, and I'm hoping to get
out on the river with one of them in the near term.

Looking forward to participating in the discussions in here.

--
BG

Newbe Intro
 

BGhouse typed:
Evening,

Apparently, seeds that were planted years ago, are starting to
germinate. I started thinking about fly fishing, started doing a fair
amount of reading. Been a long time denizen of usenet, and have been
doing a bit of lurking, mining the archives. Figured it was time to
introduce myself.

It's about damn time! We've all been wondering where you were.

Welcome to the kinder, gentler side of life, Bill.
--
TL,
Tim
---------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/

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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 03:25:08 GMT, BGhouse
wrote:

Evening,

Apparently, seeds that were planted years ago, are starting to germinate.
I started thinking about fly fishing, started doing a fair amount of
reading. Been a long time denizen of usenet, and have been doing a bit of
lurking, mining the archives. Figured it was time to introduce myself.

Name's Bill. I'm a semi-retired federal beaurocrat living in western
Michigan. I sail, ski, and tour by motorcycle. Been an on again/off again
fisher since childhood - Bass, walleye, perch - mostly on inland lakes.

Found some reasonable sounding advice as to suitable equipment for
beginners. I'm looking at a Sage Launch 9', 5wt pole, and a Ross Cimarron
Large Arbor reel loaded with 5-wt, weight-forward, floating line, 75' of
braided backing and a 9', knotless, tapered leader w/ 4X tippet. I have a
short laundry list of flies with which to start.

The little bit of knowledge I've got stored in my DNA, gleaned from the web
and from reading Jerry Dennis' books suggests that hatches in this area are
imminent. My aunt and cousin are avid fly fishers, and I'm hoping to get
out on the river with one of them in the near term.

Looking forward to participating in the discussions in here.


Sweet Jesus, a pilgrim... a pilgrim lost in the Dark Woods of ROFF.
Seek the Light friend and run from this place...now!
Harry
troutflies com

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"BGhouse" wrote in message
.. .
Evening,

Apparently, seeds that were planted years ago, are starting to germinate.
I started thinking about fly fishing, started doing a fair amount of
reading. Been a long time denizen of usenet, and have been doing a bit of
lurking, mining the archives. Figured it was time to introduce myself.

Name's Bill. I'm a semi-retired federal beaurocrat living in western
Michigan. I sail, ski, and tour by motorcycle. Been an on again/off
again
fisher since childhood - Bass, walleye, perch - mostly on inland lakes.

Found some reasonable sounding advice as to suitable equipment for
beginners. I'm looking at a Sage Launch 9', 5wt pole, and a Ross Cimarron
Large Arbor reel loaded with 5-wt, weight-forward, floating line, 75' of
braided backing and a 9', knotless, tapered leader w/ 4X tippet. I have a
short laundry list of flies with which to start.

The little bit of knowledge I've got stored in my DNA, gleaned from the
web
and from reading Jerry Dennis' books suggests that hatches in this area
are
imminent. My aunt and cousin are avid fly fishers, and I'm hoping to get
out on the river with one of them in the near term.

Looking forward to participating in the discussions in here.

--
BG

You going to just tie on a new tippet when that one gets short or what?

john...'05 HD road King

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"Tim J." sed:


BGhouse typed:
Evening,

Apparently, seeds that were planted years ago, are starting to
germinate. I started thinking about fly fishing, started doing a fair
amount of reading. Been a long time denizen of usenet, and have been
doing a bit of lurking, mining the archives. Figured it was time to
introduce myself.

It's about damn time! We've all been wondering where you were.

So, are you the Abe Lincoln charector? Or the beaver?

Welcome to the kinder, gentler side of life, Bill.

Thanks. Looking forward to telling stories

--
BG

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"asadi" sed:

"BGhouse" wrote in message

Found some reasonable sounding advice as to suitable equipment for
beginners. I'm looking at a Sage Launch 9', 5wt pole, and a Ross
Cimarron Large Arbor reel loaded with 5-wt, weight-forward, floating
line, 75' of braided backing and a 9', knotless, tapered leader w/ 4X
tippet. I have a short laundry list of flies with which to start.

You going to just tie on a new tippet when that one gets short or
what?

I understand that's the solution for those of us who don't have money to
burn ... Or who choose to burn it elswhere.G

john...'05 HD road King

--
BG
04 Electra Glide Classic
82 Super Glide II

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bones sed:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007, BGhouse wrote:

Apparently, seeds that were planted years ago, are starting to
germinate. I started thinking about fly fishing, started doing a fair
amount of reading. Been a long time denizen of usenet, and have been
doing a bit of lurking, mining the archives. Figured it was time to
introduce myself.

Sweet Jesus, a pilgrim... a pilgrim lost in the Dark Woods of ROFF.
Seek the Light friend and run from this place...now!

I like the dark woods ...


--
BG

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"BGhouse" wrote in message
.. .
Found some reasonable sounding advice as to suitable equipment for
beginners. I'm looking at a Sage Launch 9', 5wt pole, and a Ross Cimarron
Large Arbor reel loaded with 5-wt, weight-forward, floating line, 75' of
braided backing and a 9', knotless, tapered leader w/ 4X tippet. I have a
short laundry list of flies with which to start.

If you continue with fly fishing you'll inevitably get a small collection of
rods. But you've got one rod that you'll never have to trade in - it ought
to be a permanent part of your collection even if you add others.

The leader stuff will work itself out as you learn more. Don't hesitate to
ask. Or better yet meet up with the gang if you see a group trip posted.

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"asadi" sed:

That's what I do...with care a leader can last a season...now, we
gonna ride or what?

john

May be a few weeks ... I got hit nearly head-on a couple of weeks ago in a
spring snow storm. Both my feet are beat up. Today was a local Blessing
of the Bikes and the wx was perfect. Lots of bikes on the road. It's
killing me.

Where do you live?

--
BG

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"jeffc" sed:

"BGhouse" wrote in message

Found some reasonable sounding advice as to suitable equipment for
beginners. I'm looking at a Sage Launch 9', 5wt pole, and a Ross
Cimarron Large Arbor reel loaded with 5-wt, weight-forward, floating
line, 75' of braided backing and a 9', knotless, tapered leader w/ 4X
tippet. I have a short laundry list of flies with which to start.

If you continue with fly fishing you'll inevitably get a small
collection of rods. But you've got one rod that you'll never have to
trade in - it ought to be a permanent part of your collection even if
you add others.

That's the impressions I got from all the reviews I could find. Seems like
a real value point


The leader stuff will work itself out as you learn more. Don't
hesitate to ask. Or better yet meet up with the gang if you see a
group trip posted.

Thanks. I'm looking forward to it


--
BG - The full-bodied acolyte.
Wrapped a bit too tight,
but earthy with a long finish.

Newbe Intro
 

"BGhouse" wrote in message
.. .
Evening,

Apparently, seeds that were planted years ago, are starting to germinate.
I started thinking about fly fishing, started doing a fair amount of
reading. Been a long time denizen of usenet, and have been doing a bit of
lurking, mining the archives. Figured it was time to introduce myself.

Name's Bill. I'm a semi-retired federal beaurocrat living in western
Michigan. I sail, ski, and tour by motorcycle. Been an on again/off
again
fisher since childhood - Bass, walleye, perch - mostly on inland lakes.

Found some reasonable sounding advice as to suitable equipment for
beginners. I'm looking at a Sage Launch 9', 5wt pole, and a Ross Cimarron
Large Arbor reel loaded with 5-wt, weight-forward, floating line, 75' of
braided backing and a 9', knotless, tapered leader w/ 4X tippet. I have a
short laundry list of flies with which to start.

The little bit of knowledge I've got stored in my DNA, gleaned from the
web
and from reading Jerry Dennis' books suggests that hatches in this area
are
imminent. My aunt and cousin are avid fly fishers, and I'm hoping to get
out on the river with one of them in the near term.

Looking forward to participating in the discussions in here.

--
BG

Where are you in w. MI? As soon as i'm done reading ROFF, I will finish
gathering my gear for a day on the Muskegon tomorrow. Didn't want to engage
in combat this weekend, what with the season opening Sat., thought i'd wait
till Monday when most of the crowd has retreated to work. Drop me an e-mail
if you ever want to explore the Muskegon or White. Stop into the Great Lakes
Fly Fishing Co. in Rockford, godd place for gear, advice, tips, etc.
Thornapple Outfitters/ Great Lakes Orvis (East Paris, in G.R.), is another
good place for advice.

Jeremy Moe

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"J & D Moe" sed:

"BGhouse" wrote in message

Apparently, seeds that were planted years ago, are starting to
germinate. I started thinking about fly fishing, started doing a fair
amount of reading. Been a long time denizen of usenet, and have been
doing a bit of lurking, mining the archives. Figured it was time to
introduce myself.

Name's Bill. I'm a semi-retired federal beaurocrat living in western
Michigan. I sail, ski, and tour by motorcycle. Been an on again/off
again
fisher since childhood - Bass, walleye, perch - mostly on inland
lakes.

Found some reasonable sounding advice as to suitable equipment for
beginners. I'm looking at a Sage Launch 9', 5wt pole, and a Ross
Cimarron Large Arbor reel loaded with 5-wt, weight-forward, floating
line, 75' of braided backing and a 9', knotless, tapered leader w/ 4X
tippet. I have a short laundry list of flies with which to start.

The little bit of knowledge I've got stored in my DNA, gleaned from
the web
and from reading Jerry Dennis' books suggests that hatches in this
area are
imminent. My aunt and cousin are avid fly fishers, and I'm hoping to
get out on the river with one of them in the near term.

Looking forward to participating in the discussions in here.

--
BG

Where are you in w. MI?

Just down the road in Holland.

As soon as i'm done reading ROFF, I will
finish gathering my gear for a day on the Muskegon tomorrow. Didn't
want to engage in combat this weekend, what with the season opening
Sat., thought i'd wait till Monday when most of the crowd has
retreated to work.

Looking forward to exploring rivers and creeks during the week for the
same reason. I generally work during the weekends, and evenings during
the week with a few weekdays off.

I logged a little time on the DNR's web site, and found the link that
lets one query which water bodies have been stocked over a given time
period. http://www.michigandnr.com/fishstock/

Looking forward to exploring them all.

Drop me an e-mail if you ever want to explore the Muskegon or White.

I will.

Stop into the Great Lakes Fly Fishing Co. in Rockford, good place for
gear, advice, tips, etc.

I saw their website and thought I'd head there for my gear. IIrc, they
also offer instruction, and I thought I'd take advantage of that to get
a jump on the learning curve. Especially with casting.

Thornapple Outfitters/ Great Lakes Orvis (East Paris, in G.R.), is
another good place for advice.

I'll check them out too. Thanks.


--
BG

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That's what I do...with care a leader can last a season...now, we gonna ride
or what?

john

Newbe Intro
 

On Apr 29, 11:33 pm, BGhouse wrote:
"asadi" sed:

"BGhouse" wrote in message

Found some reasonable sounding advice as to suitable equipment for
beginners. I'm looking at a Sage Launch 9', 5wt pole, and a Ross
Cimarron Large Arbor reel loaded with 5-wt, weight-forward, floating
line, 75' of braided backing and a 9', knotless, tapered leader w/ 4X
tippet. I have a short laundry list of flies with which to start.

You going to just tie on a new tippet when that one gets short or
what?

I understand that's the solution for those of us who don't have money to
burn ... Or who choose to burn it elswhere.G


I'd suggest adding a few spools of 5x-7x tippet to your list. There's
a whole conversation circling around the question of 'what material',
but I think 4x is a bit on the heavy side for an all-purpose tippet.

--riverman
(Got a DOD number?)

Newbe Intro
 

BGhouse typed:
"Tim J." sed:


BGhouse typed:
Evening,

Apparently, seeds that were planted years ago, are starting to
germinate. I started thinking about fly fishing, started doing a
fair amount of reading. Been a long time denizen of usenet, and
have been doing a bit of lurking, mining the archives. Figured it
was time to introduce myself.

It's about damn time! We've all been wondering where you were.

So, are you the Abe Lincoln charector? Or the beaver?

I prefer the diver - doesn't say much, keeps to his work, and provides
background amusement.
--
TL,
Tim
-------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

Newbe Intro
 

riverman sed:

On Apr 29, 11:33 pm, BGhouse wrote:
"asadi" sed:
"BGhouse" wrote in message

Found some reasonable sounding advice as to suitable equipment for
beginners. I'm looking at a Sage Launch 9', 5wt pole, and a Ross
Cimarron Large Arbor reel loaded with 5-wt, weight-forward,
floating line, 75' of braided backing and a 9', knotless, tapered
leader w/ 4X tippet. I have a short laundry list of flies with
which to start.

You going to just tie on a new tippet when that one gets short or
what?

I understand that's the solution for those of us who don't have money
to burn ... Or who choose to burn it elswhere.G

I'd suggest adding a few spools of 5x-7x tippet to your list. There's
a whole conversation circling around the question of 'what material',
but I think 4x is a bit on the heavy side for an all-purpose tippet.

Thanks. That list evolved from my reading of Cliff Hauptman's 2004
book "How To Fly-Fish." His premise is that his is a good beginner's
list designed to facilitate casting for newbies. On the subject of
tippets, he goes on to say that as one's casting abilities improve, one
should use a lighter.

Guess I'll add a few spools of 5x-7x tippet to my list.

(Got a DOD number?)

Nope. I'm a Slug...


--
BG BS#226 W MI GLANS MANS SENS SLOB#5 DOF#55 C.O.B.B. BOTL
82 FXR "Tennessee Stud"
04 FLHTCi (Conv) "Night" (Redux)
www.chilly-willy.net

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"Tim J." sed:

BGhouse typed:
"Tim J." sed:
BGhouse typed:

Apparently, seeds that were planted years ago, are starting to
germinate. I started thinking about fly fishing, started doing a
fair amount of reading. Been a long time denizen of usenet, and
have been doing a bit of lurking, mining the archives. Figured it
was time to introduce myself.

It's about damn time! We've all been wondering where you were.

So, are you the Abe Lincoln charector? Or the beaver?

I prefer the diver - doesn't say much, keeps to his work, and provides
background amusement.

Hey, I know you. Didn't recognize you with your waders on.


--
BG - The full-bodied acolyte.
Wrapped a bit too tight,
but earthy with a long finish.

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"BGhouse" wrote in message
.. .

I saw their website and thought I'd head there for my gear. IIrc, they
also offer instruction, and I thought I'd take advantage of that to get
a jump on the learning curve. Especially with casting.

Glenn Blackwell is a good man and a good shop owner. He will treat you
right.

Newbe Intro
 

"Wayne Knight" sed:

"BGhouse" wrote

I saw their website and thought I'd head there for my gear. IIrc, they
also offer instruction, and I thought I'd take advantage of that to get
a jump on the learning curve. Especially with casting.

Glenn Blackwell is a good man and a good shop owner. He will treat you
right.

Thanks. Gonna head up there tomorrow. Do you live in this area?

--
BG

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"BGhouse" wrote in message
.. .

Do you live in this area?

No, I live in the Indianapolis area but I have spent a lot of time in
Michigan fishing and have got to know some people. Glenn is my book pimp,
and he once located a couple of long discontinued and relatively rare
fishing rods for me. If he gives you your own coffee cup, that means he
likes you, or at least your spending habits. :)

Newbe Intro
 

On Tue, 1 May 2007 00:13:17 -0400, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:


"BGhouse" wrote in message
. ..

Do you live in this area?

No, I live in the Indianapolis area but I have spent a lot of time in
Michigan fishing and have got to know some people. Glenn is my book pimp,
and he once located a couple of long discontinued and relatively rare
fishing rods for me. If he gives you your own coffee cup, that means he
likes you, or at least your spending habits. :)

Translation: Mr. Knight and his Amex card have never passed a tackle
seller that they didn't like...IOW, if the term "Gear Whore" were
literal, Wayne's ankles would be genetically joined to his ears.

TC,
R

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"Wayne Knight" sed:

"BGhouse" wrote in message

Do you live in this area?

No, I live in the Indianapolis area but I have spent a lot of time in
Michigan fishing and have got to know some people.

We tend to tolerate the folks who come up from Indianapolis pretty well.

Glenn is my book pimp, and he once located a couple of long
discontinued and relatively rare fishing rods for me.

Thanks for the refferal. I'm on my way.

If he gives you your own coffee cup, that means he likes you, or at
least your spending habits. :)

Don't imagine I'll be getting one of those any time soon ...

--
BG

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Newbe Intro
 

wrote in message
...

his Amex card

No Amex card, why should one pay to use a credit card?

Newbe Intro
 

On Tue, 1 May 2007 17:38:41 -0400, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .

his Amex card

No Amex card, why should one pay to use a credit card?

Fair enough. I stand partially corrected: Mr. Knight and his wallet
have never passed a tackle dealer they didn't like.

FWIW, you don't _have_ to pay for an Amex card. Every year I get the
"annual fee" on the bill and I call to cancel. The fee is waived. From
what I've found nowadays, there are fewer and fewer places that are
Amex-only (in the US), so the first time they refuse to waive, I'll
wave...buh-bye.

TC,
R
PS - thought about you just this past weekend - we laid just out from
the junction of the Pascagoula and Mary Walker Bayou and grilled some
fresh snapper, chaurice, and asparagus, with crab fingers as an
appetizer...Gulf Coast heaven...and we anchored just far enough out to
strike a balance between calm water and no marsh gnats.

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"Wayne Knight" sed:

"BGhouse" wrote in message

Do you live in this area?

No, I live in the Indianapolis area but I have spent a lot of time in
Michigan fishing and have got to know some people. Glenn is my book
pimp, and he once located a couple of long discontinued and relatively
rare fishing rods for me. If he gives you your own coffee cup, that
means he likes you, or at least your spending habits. :)

Made the trek to Greak Lakes Fly Fishing yesterday. Nice store! Their
prices were in line with everyone elses. Great folks. Loaded my reel for
me, threw in the backing, helped pick out a few wet and dry flies. I
signed up for a four-hour, on the river lesson next Wednesday.

I mentioned your name to Glenn, and he started ranting "THAT SLACKER OWES
ME MONEY!" He jacked my price up 10%, and threw a coffee cup at me as I
was running out the door. It shattered against the door frame, sending
shards across the parking lot. Is that how you got *your* cup?

--
BG - Only half of the above is true ...

Newbe Intro
 

"BGhouse" wrote in message
.. .
"Wayne Knight" sed:

"BGhouse" wrote in message

Do you live in this area?

No, I live in the Indianapolis area but I have spent a lot of time in
Michigan fishing and have got to know some people. Glenn is my book
pimp, and he once located a couple of long discontinued and relatively
rare fishing rods for me. If he gives you your own coffee cup, that
means he likes you, or at least your spending habits. :)

Made the trek to Greak Lakes Fly Fishing yesterday. Nice store! Their
prices were in line with everyone elses. Great folks. Loaded my reel for
me, threw in the backing, helped pick out a few wet and dry flies. I
signed up for a four-hour, on the river lesson next Wednesday.

I mentioned your name to Glenn, and he started ranting "THAT SLACKER OWES
ME MONEY!" He jacked my price up 10%, and threw a coffee cup at me as I
was running out the door. It shattered against the door frame, sending
shards across the parking lot. Is that how you got *your* cup?

--
BG - Only half of the above is true ...

Careful Bill,

With posts like that, people here are either gonna like you or hate you ; )

Jeremy

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wrote in message
...

FWIW, you don't _have_ to pay for an Amex card. Every year I get the
"annual fee" on the bill and I call to cancel. The fee is waived.

I got rid of mine years ago when they refused to waive the fee one year.

PS - thought about you just this past weekend - we laid just out from
the junction of the Pascagoula and Mary Walker Bayou and grilled some
fresh snapper, chaurice, and asparagus, with crab fingers as an
appetizer...

Sounds really good, save me some if I get down that way this summer.

Newbe Intro
 

"BGhouse" wrote in message
.. .

Is that how you got *your* cup?

Hell, he never asked me to pay for it.

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On Thu, 3 May 2007 22:20:21 -0400, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .

FWIW, you don't _have_ to pay for an Amex card. Every year I get the
"annual fee" on the bill and I call to cancel. The fee is waived.

I got rid of mine years ago when they refused to waive the fee one year.

As I said their waiving vs. my waving...and actually, they are
becoming not worth the call to have them waive...

PS - thought about you just this past weekend - we laid just out from
the junction of the Pascagoula and Mary Walker Bayou and grilled some
fresh snapper, chaurice, and asparagus, with crab fingers as an
appetizer...

Sounds really good, save me some if I get down that way this summer.

A meal or three, a place on a boat, and a (stationary) coffee cup
await...

TC,
R

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"Wayne Knight" sed:

"BGhouse" wrote in message

Is that how you got *your* cup?

Hell, he never asked me to pay for it.



Heh! Thanks for the refferal. I got a fair deal and great service

--
BG