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I had gone up to Grayling Michigan to recharge batteries and see some old
friends that congregate there for the season opener. I drove through rain
and endurred a chilly night Friday after attending a gathering and awoke to
a wonderful bright and cool Saturday am. The kind of day golfers like and
fishermen hate. Between driving around looking for open water and the
conditions, there was not much happening astream. Being the season opening
weekend, there was much happening off stream.

After giving up on the Ausable I drove over to some favorite Manistee haunts
but they too were fairly crowded and wading upstream a ways didn;t really
help. I had pretty much decided to chuck it and go get an adult beverage
when I drove past the river on M-72 and the parking lot was empty! I broke
out the 8' 4wt attached a Hardy and decided to walk down to the water before
putting on waders. I wasn't using my vest, just a box of hendrickson's, some
streamers and a lanyard with tools and tippet around my neck and a dead
camera in the pocket with the fly vest (no smokes).

I couldn't believe my luck, there were sporadic hendrickson's coming off and
a few good fish doing a feeding rise and many others doing the emerger type
rises. I decided to go aheand and string up the rod there and then hurry
back to the car for waders and a box of wet flies to trail off the dry
flies. As I was about to do that, three sports, properly attired came down
the path and proceeded to enter the water in front of me. They did not reply
to my greeting but one angler, forgetting how sound carries astream, made
some comment about my attire and something to the effect that I probably
stole the rod. This kind of PO'd me, especially when one stood right in
front of me and started casting to two rises.

It was obvious the two rises were dinks and they were rising like fish
keying on rising emergers often do, coming completely out of the water. But
a foot or so behind them was another fish working periodically that I had
been spying before they appeared. I watched the fish rise again but the
angler and his buddies did not do a thing to try to catch the fish. Waders
or not, Dammit, I was there first, I walked in beside him, went upstream 10
feet or so, and then cast back downsream, which made the other anglers
stop, I dropped that fly about 25' from me and two feet upstream of my
target. One quick mend over the dinks and a 14" brown took my fly ever so
gently. I landed the fish and told the guy "his dinks would start again
shortly - and they did - and that he should tie on an emerger or soft hackle
if he wanted to catch them.

Let me tell you, the Manistee in April is cold and wading wet is not advised
but I was in and it felt like there was some Karma working that I did not
want to ruin. I waded downstreeam a few hundred yards, casting only to
rises. The first seven or eight fish I cast to all attacked the fly before I
missed on the next three strikes paying more attention to my cold and
numbing toes than I was the drifts. Walking back upstream as things started
to peter out, I passed my *buddies* and smiled, asked how they did (one fish
for the group).

Getting close to the takeout, I got out, took a seat on the grass and tried
to get some sun on my feet which was working when the water surface started
coming alive again.. I got back in and caught three more fish in the 8" to
12" range when another three anglers appeared. This time two very nice and
attrative ladies and a man. The first thing that popped into my mind was an
old Emerson, Lake,and Palmer song. We were exchanging pleasantries when I
noticed a nice rise out of the corner of my eyes. I excused my self, waded
out and up about 15' and let loose a 35' cast and a drift I make a lot only
in my dreams, the fish took softly and when I lifted the rod all hell broke
loose and the hardy began to sing it's song. But the soft action rod was up
to the challenge and not wanting to chase the fish I palmed the reel such
that fish could not run out more line, I was using 4x tippet and the rod
bent to the butt but the tippet held and the fish was on the reel. I was
rewarded with a football thick 16+" Mannistee Brown.

It's too bad my camera battery insertion technique was not as good as my
fishing skills that day as the blonde angler with the nice "accessories" and
the Winston rods was going to take my picture, alas. no hero shot.

Later that night I joined some friends at a party and there were two
attractive anglers and third genttleman talking about the fool wading wet in
the Manistee who caught a nice brown. Alas they did not call him a handome
fool . I just smiled when I heard them tell the story to my friends. .

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I hear ya Wayne had the same thing happen to me on fishing creek
saturday.......A guy walks up to the stream with his woman and starts
throwing lures and bait right where I am fishing......I walk back up
to where Tom was fishing told him then walked to where he parked his
truck and took 2 nice fish from the pool there.........Walked back to
where Tom was and the rube was baiting his hook with red worms fishing
creek is a trophy trout water no live bait so i politely told him he
said he didn't know I said you need to read the signs and told him to
put on a yellow rooster tail and see what happened......From the looks
of him and his hugger I think it was one of the few times he had been
fishing so I don't think he knew any better.......I walked back up to
the pool beside his truck and hooked another fish turned around there
they were mouths open checking out the 12 inch brown I said to him you
gotta get on the fly kid.............................

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"Wayne Knight" sed:

[snip] They did not reply to my greeting but one angler,
forgetting how sound carries astream, made some comment about my
attire and something to the effect that I probably stole the rod. This
kind of PO'd me, especially when one stood right in front of me and
started casting to two rises.

[snip] One quick mend over the dinks and a 14" brown took my fly ever
so gently. I landed the fish and told the guy "his dinks would start
again shortly - and they did - and that he should tie on an emerger
or soft hackle if he wanted to catch them.

Is there a better revenge ...

--
BG - I gotta get out there!

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"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
. ..
I had gone up to Grayling Michigan to recharge batteries and see some old
friends that congregate there for the season opener. I drove through rain
and endurred a chilly night Friday after attending a gathering and awoke
to a wonderful bright and cool Saturday am. The kind of day golfers like
and fishermen hate. Between driving around looking for open water and the
conditions, there was not much happening astream. Being the season opening
weekend, there was much happening off stream.

After giving up on the Ausable I drove over to some favorite Manistee
haunts but they too were fairly crowded and wading upstream a ways didn;t
really help. I had pretty much decided to chuck it and go get an adult
beverage when I drove past the river on M-72 and the parking lot was
empty! I broke out the 8' 4wt attached a Hardy and decided to walk down to
the water before putting on waders. I wasn't using my vest, just a box of
hendrickson's, some streamers and a lanyard with tools and tippet around
my neck and a dead camera in the pocket with the fly vest (no smokes).

I couldn't believe my luck, there were sporadic hendrickson's coming off
and a few good fish doing a feeding rise and many others doing the emerger
type rises. I decided to go aheand and string up the rod there and then
hurry back to the car for waders and a box of wet flies to trail off the
dry flies. As I was about to do that, three sports, properly attired came
down the path and proceeded to enter the water in front of me. They did
not reply to my greeting but one angler, forgetting how sound carries
astream, made some comment about my attire and something to the effect
that I probably stole the rod. This kind of PO'd me, especially when one
stood right in front of me and started casting to two rises.

It was obvious the two rises were dinks and they were rising like fish
keying on rising emergers often do, coming completely out of the water.
But a foot or so behind them was another fish working periodically that I
had been spying before they appeared. I watched the fish rise again but
the angler and his buddies did not do a thing to try to catch the fish.
Waders or not, Dammit, I was there first, I walked in beside him, went
upstream 10 feet or so, and then cast back downsream, which made the
other anglers stop, I dropped that fly about 25' from me and two feet
upstream of my target. One quick mend over the dinks and a 14" brown took
my fly ever so gently. I landed the fish and told the guy "his dinks would
start again shortly - and they did - and that he should tie on an emerger
or soft hackle if he wanted to catch them.

Let me tell you, the Manistee in April is cold and wading wet is not
advised but I was in and it felt like there was some Karma working that I
did not want to ruin. I waded downstreeam a few hundred yards, casting
only to rises. The first seven or eight fish I cast to all attacked the
fly before I missed on the next three strikes paying more attention to my
cold and numbing toes than I was the drifts. Walking back upstream as
things started to peter out, I passed my *buddies* and smiled, asked how
they did (one fish for the group).

Getting close to the takeout, I got out, took a seat on the grass and
tried to get some sun on my feet which was working when the water surface
started coming alive again.. I got back in and caught three more fish in
the 8" to 12" range when another three anglers appeared. This time two
very nice and attrative ladies and a man. The first thing that popped into
my mind was an old Emerson, Lake,and Palmer song. We were exchanging
pleasantries when I noticed a nice rise out of the corner of my eyes. I
excused my self, waded out and up about 15' and let loose a 35' cast and a
drift I make a lot only in my dreams, the fish took softly and when I
lifted the rod all hell broke loose and the hardy began to sing it's song.
But the soft action rod was up to the challenge and not wanting to chase
the fish I palmed the reel such that fish could not run out more line, I
was using 4x tippet and the rod bent to the butt but the tippet held and
the fish was on the reel. I was rewarded with a football thick 16+"
Mannistee Brown.

It's too bad my camera battery insertion technique was not as good as my
fishing skills that day as the blonde angler with the nice "accessories"
and the Winston rods was going to take my picture, alas. no hero shot.

Later that night I joined some friends at a party and there were two
attractive anglers and third genttleman talking about the fool wading wet
in the Manistee who caught a nice brown. Alas they did not call him a
handome fool . I just smiled when I heard them tell the story to my
friends. .




By Gar..if I'd a been there with ya matey

I'd a cut their eyes out....and then I'd a cut their gizzards..and
then....I'd a hurt 'em, not nice like before...

Way cool dude....


john

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"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
. ..

I just smiled...

And so did we. :)

Thanks, Wayne.

Wolfgang

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"Wayne Knight" wrote ...

[...]

I was
rewarded with a football thick 16+" Mannistee Brown.



And we, in turn, are rewarded with a great read. Thanks for that.

I'll be up on either the PM or the Manistee (CCC bridge area, probably) in a
couple weeks. Hennies tied. Any other suggestions?

Dan

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:12:27 -0400, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:

I had gone up to Grayling Michigan to recharge batteries and see some old
friends that congregate there for the season opener. I drove through rain
and endurred a chilly night Friday after attending a gathering and awoke to
a wonderful bright and cool Saturday am. The kind of day golfers like and
fishermen hate. Between driving around looking for open water and the
conditions, there was not much happening astream. Being the season opening
weekend, there was much happening off stream.
.....

Later that night I joined some friends at a party and there were two
attractive anglers and third genttleman talking about the fool wading wet in
the Manistee who caught a nice brown. Alas they did not call him a handome
fool . I just smiled when I heard them tell the story to my friends. .



Very enjoyable. It sounds as if it was an amusing weekend.


g.c.

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"Daniel-San" (Rot13) wrote in message
. net...

I'll be up on either the PM or the Manistee (CCC bridge area, probably) in
a couple weeks. Hennies tied. Any other suggestions?


Black Elk Hair Caddis, Borcher's Parachute, Sulfur's, and a Robert's Yellow
Drake.

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...


And so did we. :)


We gonna be smiling in the Smoky's soon?

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

Yep. Some of the details concerning who is going to meet whom exactly
where and when still need to be tweaked, but I am out'a here on the
evening of the 16th.

I'll be on the TN side from the evening of the 16th to the morning of the
20th.

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Wayne Knight wrote:
A great story that was a shame to snip
fool . I just smiled when I heard them tell the story to my friends. .



great story. Thanks. What was the Emerson Lake and Palmer song you
thought of?

Tim Lysyk

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"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
. ..

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...


And so did we. :)


We gonna be smiling in the Smoky's soon?

Yep. Some of the details concerning who is going to meet whom exactly where
and when still need to be tweaked, but I am out'a here on the evening of the
16th. Going to hook up with Chuck on the Tennessee side for a day or two
and then find Jeff and fish the North Carolina side. Last I heard, John was
planning to participate in both of those soirees.

You?

Wolfgang

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"Wayne Knight" wrote ...

Black Elk Hair Caddis, Borcher's Parachute, Sulfur's, and a Robert's
Yellow Drake.


Bowing in humble thanks...

-Dan

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"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
. ..
"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

Yep. Some of the details concerning who is going to meet whom exactly
where and when still need to be tweaked, but I am out'a here on the
evening of the 16th.

I'll be on the TN side from the evening of the 16th to the morning of the
20th.

Hm.....

O.k., I'll have my people call your people and they can call John's
peop......um......**** it.

Why don't you just join me and Joel this weekend and we'll talk it over
then? :)

Wolfgang

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Wolfgang wrote:
"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
. ..

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...


And so did we. :)


We gonna be smiling in the Smoky's soon?


Yep. Some of the details concerning who is going to meet whom exactly where
and when still need to be tweaked, but I am out'a here on the evening of the
16th. Going to hook up with Chuck on the Tennessee side for a day or two
and then find Jeff and fish the North Carolina side. Last I heard, John was
planning to participate in both of those soirees.

You?

Wolfgang



well...um...have we figured where we are meeting and if john is bringing
the travel condo? mcdonalds in robbinsville? another place you prefer?
time? i'll have my new one-man tent and thermarest if we need to camp.
also bringing the gheenoe, so we can go over to slickrock for a day or
an overnight. or we can just do snowbird. or we can go over to
hazel...or...hell...

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Tim Lysyk wrote:

Wayne Knight wrote:
A great story that was a shame to snip

fool . I just smiled when I heard them tell the story to my friends. .

great story.

Indeed. It's nice to read about someone who's actually getting some
fishing in.

Thanks. What was the Emerson Lake and Palmer song you
thought of?

My guess is "Lucky Man". :-)


Chuck Vance

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Wayne Knight wrote:

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

Yep. Some of the details concerning who is going to meet whom exactly
where and when still need to be tweaked, but I am out'a here on the
evening of the 16th.

I'll be on the TN side from the evening of the 16th to the morning of the
20th.

Hmmm ... I'll be on the TN side around that time, too. I should be
arriving on the 13th, and I have reservations at Elkmont starting on the
15th (the first day they allow reservations for the season).

Maybe we should try to hook up during that time (at the very least,
when Wolfgang arrives).


Chuck Vance

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"jeff" wrote in message
...
Wolfgang wrote:
"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
. ..

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...


And so did we. :)


We gonna be smiling in the Smoky's soon?


Yep. Some of the details concerning who is going to meet whom exactly
where and when still need to be tweaked, but I am out'a here on the
evening of the 16th. Going to hook up with Chuck on the Tennessee side
for a day or two and then find Jeff and fish the North Carolina side.
Last I heard, John was planning to participate in both of those soirees.

You?

Wolfgang

well...um...have we figured where we are meeting and if john is bringing
the travel condo? mcdonalds in robbinsville? another place you prefer?
time? i'll have my new one-man tent and thermarest if we need to camp.
also bringing the gheenoe, so we can go over to slickrock for a day or an
overnight. or we can just do snowbird. or we can go over to
hazel...or...hell...

Once we figure out exactly where and when to meet, I'm more than content to
leave the rest of the itinerary in your capable hands. I talked to John a
few minutes ago; he won't be joining us this time.

McDonald's in Robbinsville works fine for me. My only problem now is
determining when. I believe Chuck said he's pulling out Saturday morning,
by which time we'll have had the opportunity to fish together for at least a
day, along with Wayne if we can all hook up. Not being intimately familiar
with the area and, more specifically, with the route from Elkmont to
Robbinsville, my basic problem is that I don't know whether it would be
wiser for me to head down Friday evening or wait till early Saturday
morning. I welcome any advice or suggestions.

I'll be in the area through Monday night. Some time on Tuesday, I've got to
head north to fulfill other obligations.

Wolfgang

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Once we figure out exactly where and when to meet, I'm more than content to
leave the rest of the itinerary in your capable hands. I talked to John a
few minutes ago; he won't be joining us this time.

McDonald's in Robbinsville works fine for me. My only problem now is
determining when. I believe Chuck said he's pulling out Saturday morning,
by which time we'll have had the opportunity to fish together for at least a
day, along with Wayne if we can all hook up. Not being intimately familiar
with the area and, more specifically, with the route from Elkmont to
Robbinsville, my basic problem is that I don't know whether it would be
wiser for me to head down Friday evening or wait till early Saturday
morning. I welcome any advice or suggestions.

I'll be in the area through Monday night. Some time on Tuesday, I've got to
head north to fulfill other obligations.

Wolfgang



bummer about john and his wheeled condo... i think john has developed a
shunning polarity with carolina. oh well, should have the thermarest
broken in by then.g

anyway...

i think elkmont is probably 2-2.5 hours from robbinsville...not sure.
you traverse near gatlinburg...beware. but, i've never been to elkmont
so have no real idea about travel time through the park (nice drive as i
recall). i think i'll be about 4 hours from robbinsville when i start
off early saturday. so... how about we plan on meeting at 11 am at the
mcdonalds. if weather is good, we'll then head to slickrock or snowbird
and set up camp. fish sat. evening, sunday and monday. slickrock will be
a new adventure for you, so i'd like you to see it...but i've heard it
is infested with snakes when warm weather arrives, and i hate snakes.
will you have all the necessary overnight camping stuff? (esp. water
purifier & stove) if the weather is bad, i'll spring for a room at one
of the local joints and we'll figure something. i have to leave on
tuesday also, so it all seems in sync...

jeff

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"jeff" wrote in message
...

bummer about john and his wheeled condo... i think john has developed a
shunning polarity with carolina.

Said something about post offices.....pictures.....I dunno. :)

oh well, should have the thermarest broken in by then.g

anyway...

i think elkmont is probably 2-2.5 hours from robbinsville...not sure. you
traverse near gatlinburg...beware.

Yeah, I've been that part of the route before. Icky.

but, i've never been to elkmont so have no real idea about travel time
through the park (nice drive as i recall). i think i'll be about 4 hours
from robbinsville when i start off early saturday. so... how about we
plan on meeting at 11 am at the mcdonalds.

Done.

if weather is good, we'll then head to slickrock or snowbird and set up
camp. fish sat. evening, sunday and monday. slickrock will be a new
adventure for you, so i'd like you to see it...

Excellent!

but i've heard it is infested with snakes when warm weather arrives, and i
hate snakes.

Ptui! Wee spit on steenking snakes! Wee will crush their pitiful slithery
skulls like so much crunchy caramel corn!

will you have all the necessary overnight camping stuff? (esp. water
purifier & stove)

Yep.

if the weather is bad, i'll spring for a room at one of the local joints
and we'll figure something.

I don't put out on first dates. :(

i have to leave on tuesday also, so it all seems in sync...

Cool. See you elevenish on the 19th.

Wolfgang

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jeff wrote:

i think elkmont is probably 2-2.5 hours from robbinsville...not sure.
you traverse near gatlinburg...beware. but, i've never been to elkmont
so have no real idea about travel time through the park (nice drive as i
recall).

FWIW, I drove from the log cabin on Snowbird to Elkmont one morning,
and that sounds about right. It was took just over an hour to Cherokee,
IIRC, and then you drive through the park on 441. That part can go
slowly depending on traffic and how much sightseeing you want to do, but
it's a *beautiful* drive.

In fact, it's the drive I would take to see the park even if I
wasn't going fishing, as you drive past The Chimney Tops (and the West
Prong of the Pigeon), do "The Loop" (where the road makes a full circle
over itself), go past Clingman's Dome and over Newfound Gap, and
alongside the Oconaluftee (sp?) before leaving the park and heading into
the kitschy-hell-that-is-Cherokee.

You bypass Gatlinburg, but on your way out of the campground you do
have to drive past the intersection at the Sugarlands visitor center
(where traffic from G'burg enters the park), so that can slow you down.


Chuck Vance

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"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
...
jeff wrote:

i think elkmont is probably 2-2.5 hours from robbinsville...not sure. you
traverse near gatlinburg...beware. but, i've never been to elkmont so
have no real idea about travel time through the park (nice drive as i
recall).

FWIW, I drove from the log cabin on Snowbird to Elkmont one morning,
and that sounds about right. It was took just over an hour to Cherokee,
IIRC, and then you drive through the park on 441. That part can go slowly
depending on traffic and how much sightseeing you want to do, but it's a
*beautiful* drive.

In fact, it's the drive I would take to see the park even if I wasn't
going fishing, as you drive past The Chimney Tops (and the West Prong of
the Pigeon), do "The Loop" (where the road makes a full circle over
itself), go past Clingman's Dome and over Newfound Gap, and alongside the
Oconaluftee (sp?) before leaving the park and heading into the
kitschy-hell-that-is-Cherokee.

You bypass Gatlinburg, but on your way out of the campground you do
have to drive past the intersection at the Sugarlands visitor center
(where traffic from G'burg enters the park), so that can slow you down.

Sounds like a plan. Thank you, gentlemen.

Wolfgang

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

along with Wayne if we can all hook up.

If I remember correctly I called you and said come to the Smoky's on this
date range and you might hook up if me? I am so devastated!

Not being intimately familiar with the area and, more specifically, with
the route from Elkmont to Robbinsville, my basic problem is that I don't
know whether it would be wiser for me to head down Friday evening or wait
till early Saturday morning. I welcome any advice or suggestions.

Sat or Sun morning would be best, Friday nite gets you into a bunch of
casino and gatlinburg dinner/theatre traffic. There are several ways to get
there from the Townsend area.

But what a lot of "get away from the crowd snobs" don't realize is the
stream that parallels the road from Gatlinburg to Cherokee is a great
brookie stream that often disappears from the road (and noise). It's worth a
stop for a while.

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"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
...

Hmmm ... I'll be on the TN side around that time, too. I should be
arriving on the 13th, and I have reservations at Elkmont starting on the
15th (the first day they allow reservations for the season).

Maybe we should try to hook up during that time (at the very least,
when Wolfgang arrives).

I had it in my notes to drop you an email next week. Up for Hazel on that
Thursday?

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"George Cleveland" wrote in message
...

Very enjoyable. It sounds as if it was an amusing weekend.


It was, thanks.

Keep your fingers crossed for me, I got a call from a dude a few weeks which
MIGHT result in a new abode for me......in Rhinelander.

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"Tim Lysyk" wrote in message
news:FvPZh.10233$Dq6.8896@edtnps82...

What was the Emerson Lake and Palmer song you thought of?

One male angler with two attractive female anglers-what Chuck said.

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On Thu, 3 May 2007 22:10:08 -0400, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:


"George Cleveland" wrote in message
.. .

Very enjoyable. It sounds as if it was an amusing weekend.


It was, thanks.

Keep your fingers crossed for me, I got a call from a dude a few weeks which
MIGHT result in a new abode for me......in Rhinelander.


If you end up there I know a guy you have to meet. Not to mention
I'll personally guide you to some great spots on the Prairie.

g.c.

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Wayne Knight wrote:

I had it in my notes to drop you an email next week. Up for Hazel on that
Thursday?

Well, sure. I guess that's as good a time as any. :-) We need to
confirm when Wolfgang is getting in. It'd be nice to include him in
that trip, but I think he doesn't get in until Friday (or late Thursday?).


Chuck Vance (will send you a PM with cellphone info)

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Conan The Librarian wrote:
Wayne Knight wrote:

I had it in my notes to drop you an email next week. Up for Hazel on
that Thursday?


Well, sure. I guess that's as good a time as any. :-) We need to
confirm when Wolfgang is getting in. It'd be nice to include him in
that trip, but I think he doesn't get in until Friday (or late Thursday?).


Chuck Vance (will send you a PM with cellphone info)


i've lost track of who's where when. so when are you guys in the area?
just in case...how about copying me with details. i'll be somewhere
with a couple other fishermen on or around a lake in eastern tenn. and
they may want to visit hazel, but not sure. ... i think the wolf gets in
thursday...we're to meet saturday at 11 in robbinsville.

jeff

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On May 4, 4:01 pm, jeff wrote:

i've lost track of who's where when. so when are you guys in the area?
just in case...how about copying me with details. i'll be somewhere
with a couple other fishermen on or around a lake in eastern tenn. and
they may want to visit hazel, but not sure. ... i think the wolf gets in
thursday...we're to meet saturday at 11 in robbinsville.

I'll be arriving on Sunday the 13th, if the cricks don't rise,
etc. I've got reservations at Elkmont campground on the TN side for
Wed.-Sat. morning, but I'm planning to use it as my base of operations
the whole time (they don't take reservations any earleir in the
season).

Wolfgang is supposed to arrive Thursday I think. Wayne said he'll
be arriving Wednesday (is that right, Wayne?).

It'd be way cool if we could get a nano-clave together on Friday
before I head out Saturday.


Chuck Vance

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Conan The Librarian wrote:

On May 4, 4:01 pm, jeff wrote:


i've lost track of who's where when. so when are you guys in the area?
just in case...how about copying me with details. i'll be somewhere
with a couple other fishermen on or around a lake in eastern tenn. and
they may want to visit hazel, but not sure. ... i think the wolf gets in
thursday...we're to meet saturday at 11 in robbinsville.


I'll be arriving on Sunday the 13th, if the cricks don't rise,
etc. I've got reservations at Elkmont campground on the TN side for
Wed.-Sat. morning, but I'm planning to use it as my base of operations
the whole time (they don't take reservations any earleir in the
season).

Wolfgang is supposed to arrive Thursday I think. Wayne said he'll
be arriving Wednesday (is that right, Wayne?).

It'd be way cool if we could get a nano-clave together on Friday
before I head out Saturday.


Chuck Vance


i'm not in charge of events until friday or saturday... i'll be over
near one of the lakes in eastern tenn from sunday until friday or early
saturday at some point... meeting wolf on saturday in robbinsville. if i
leave the lake on friday, i'll head over to elkmont and look for y'all.

jeff

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jeff wrote:

i'm not in charge of events until friday or saturday... i'll be over
near one of the lakes in eastern tenn from sunday until friday or early
saturday at some point... meeting wolf on saturday in robbinsville. if i
leave the lake on friday, i'll head over to elkmont and look for y'all.

Okey dokey. I expect we'll be on the water somewhere in the general
vicinity. ;-) Seriously, I don't know if Wolfgang wants to go chase
brookies or just whatever is nearby. We could hike up the Little River
trail from the campground (I'm not sure if there are brookies up there,
but there are definitely rainbows), or head back towards Tremont and go
up Lynn Camp (supposed to be some brookies up there), or head over to
Bradley Fork ... or ... you get the idea. :-)


Chuck Vance (so much water, so little time)

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Looks like I'll be "expelled" from my quarters in Tenn on the
18th...(frankly, the kindness and tolerance of allowing me to stay until
then is inspiring and undeserved g), so give me some idea how and
where to find you fellers on Friday... i'd like to meet another of the
texan variety...though Big Dale is a mighty tough act to follow.

jeff

Conan The Librarian wrote:
jeff wrote:

i'm not in charge of events until friday or saturday... i'll be over
near one of the lakes in eastern tenn from sunday until friday or
early saturday at some point... meeting wolf on saturday in
robbinsville. if i leave the lake on friday, i'll head over to elkmont
and look for y'all.


Okey dokey. I expect we'll be on the water somewhere in the general
vicinity. ;-) Seriously, I don't know if Wolfgang wants to go chase
brookies or just whatever is nearby. We could hike up the Little River
trail from the campground (I'm not sure if there are brookies up there,
but there are definitely rainbows), or head back towards Tremont and go
up Lynn Camp (supposed to be some brookies up there), or head over to
Bradley Fork ... or ... you get the idea. :-)


Chuck Vance (so much water, so little time)

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"Jeff" wrote in message
ink.net...
Looks like I'll be "expelled" from my quarters in Tenn on the
18th...(frankly, the kindness and tolerance of allowing me to stay until
then is inspiring and undeserved g), so give me some idea how and where
to find you fellers on Friday... i'd like to meet another of the texan
variety...though Big Dale is a mighty tough act to follow.

jeff

Conan The Librarian wrote:
jeff wrote:

i'm not in charge of events until friday or saturday... i'll be over
near one of the lakes in eastern tenn from sunday until friday or early
saturday at some point... meeting wolf on saturday in robbinsville. if i
leave the lake on friday, i'll head over to elkmont and look for y'all.


Okey dokey. I expect we'll be on the water somewhere in the general
vicinity. ;-) Seriously, I don't know if Wolfgang wants to go chase
brookies or just whatever is nearby. We could hike up the Little River
trail from the campground (I'm not sure if there are brookies up there,
but there are definitely rainbows), or head back towards Tremont and go
up Lynn Camp (supposed to be some brookies up there), or head over to
Bradley Fork ... or ... you get the idea. :-)


Chuck Vance (so much water, so little time)

YEE HAW! We fixin' to have us a chump-o-ree! :)

Brookies, browns, rainbows, carp.....hike, sit, jump up and down and bark
like a chicken.....whatever. It's all good.

I only wish that I could give y'all a firm ETA to help facilitate logistics.
My problem is......in a word.....Chicago. If you've ever driven through it,
you know. If not, I'll explain in detail later. For now, suffice it to say
that deciding what time to leave here on Wednesday (the available options
have been narrowed down to 1:00, 2:00, 3:00, 4:00, 5:00, 6:00, 7:00, 8:00,
9:00, 10:00 or 11:00 p.m.) or Thursday (12:00, 1:00, 2:00, 3:00, or 4:00
a.m.), and whether to make a 200 mile detour around that ugly mother-****er
or put the pedal to the metal and blast a hole through it has given me a
case of the fantods.

The good news is that the dithering is more pressure than I can stand for
long......a firm decision (subject, of course, to the vagaries of chance in
a universe that did, after all, elect two bushes to national office for a
combined total of three terms.....yeah, that's worth a moment's thought)
will be arrived at by the weekend. I figure my driving time to be somewhere
in the neighborhood of 13 hours. Route, departure time, rest stops and
incidentals are, at this point, all flexible enough to accommodate
requirements at the end of the road. Advise me.....somebody.....please.

Wolfgang

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

Route, departure time, rest stops and incidentals are, at this point, all
flexible enough to accommodate requirements at the end of the road.
Advise me.....somebody.....please.

Leave so that you either go through Chicago before 4pm or after 7pm but
before 10pm. The Cubs are out of town so the Kennedy will just be suffering
it's normal over capacity traffic. However the White Sox are at home against
the Yankees to the area around the Dan Ryan expressway is going to be AFU
more so than normal and then of course the freeking construction on the
Bishop Ford Section once you clear the Sox's stadium.

Get off at North Ave and cut over to Lakeshore drive. Go past the museums
before cutting back over to I-90/94 and take the Chicago Skyway/Indiana Toll
Road to I-65.

Some destruction in Indiana but not much but some stuff on I-74 going into
Ohio so take I-65 through Indiana and KY to TN. Exit at Briley Parkway on
I-65 and take that East to I-40 to Knoxville and follow the signs to
Townsend. There was construction on both I-65 in KY and I-75 in KY but I
believe the I-65 variety is a bit more tolerable.

You have my cell phone number

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"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
oups.com...

Wayne said he'll
be arriving Wednesday (is that right, Wayne?).

yessiree.

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Jeff wrote:

Looks like I'll be "expelled" from my quarters in Tenn on the
18th...(frankly, the kindness and tolerance of allowing me to stay until
then is inspiring and undeserved g), so give me some idea how and
where to find you fellers on Friday... i'd like to meet another of the
texan variety...though Big Dale is a mighty tough act to follow.

I'm definitely no BD, but I've been told that I'm pleasant enough to
be around. And I'll be bringing some of the Blanco Brewing Company's
finest, so that should make me even nicer to hang with. ;-)

OK, so if we can get Wolfgang to agree to a time to arrive, and
Wayne K., then we could have us a regular soiree. :-) If folks want, I
can plan to hang out at the campground Friday a.m., until we get all the
suspects rounded up. Then we can hike up the Little River trail or head
out to some other water.


Chuck Vance

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Wolfgang wrote:

YEE HAW! We fixin' to have us a chump-o-ree! :)

You sound almost like a Texan. :-)

Brookies, browns, rainbows, carp.....hike, sit, jump up and down and bark
like a chicken.....whatever. It's all good.

I expect we could do all of the above (except maybe the carp).

I only wish that I could give y'all a firm ETA to help facilitate logistics.
My problem is......in a word.....Chicago. If you've ever driven through it,
you know. If not, I'll explain in detail later. For now, suffice it to say
that deciding what time to leave here on Wednesday (the available options
have been narrowed down to 1:00, 2:00, 3:00, 4:00, 5:00, 6:00, 7:00, 8:00,
9:00, 10:00 or 11:00 p.m.) or Thursday (12:00, 1:00, 2:00, 3:00, or 4:00
a.m.), and whether to make a 200 mile detour around that ugly mother-****er
or put the pedal to the metal and blast a hole through it has given me a
case of the fantods.

The good news is that the dithering is more pressure than I can stand for
long......a firm decision (subject, of course, to the vagaries of chance in
a universe that did, after all, elect two bushes to national office for a
combined total of three terms.....yeah, that's worth a moment's thought)
will be arrived at by the weekend. I figure my driving time to be somewhere
in the neighborhood of 13 hours. Route, departure time, rest stops and
incidentals are, at this point, all flexible enough to accommodate
requirements at the end of the road. Advise me.....somebody.....please.

I'll give it a shot. I have a similar problem in that I can either
drive through Dallas (the most direct route) or go around it via state
roads. The positive for going through the Big D is that it's interstate
all the way (and a speed limit of 70). The negative is that it's
interstate all the way. :-}

At the very least, why don't you plan to be at Elkmont on Friday
a.m. If all goes well, we'll have Wayne and Jeff also arriving then,
and we can do some serious damage to whatever water is within driving
distance.

To say nothing about the damage we'll do to our knees and livers.


Chuck Vance

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Conan The Librarian wrote:
Jeff wrote:

Looks like I'll be "expelled" from my quarters in Tenn on the
18th...(frankly, the kindness and tolerance of allowing me to stay
until then is inspiring and undeserved g), so give me some idea how
and where to find you fellers on Friday... i'd like to meet another of
the texan variety...though Big Dale is a mighty tough act to follow.


I'm definitely no BD, but I've been told that I'm pleasant enough to
be around. And I'll be bringing some of the Blanco Brewing Company's
finest, so that should make me even nicer to hang with. ;-)

OK, so if we can get Wolfgang to agree to a time to arrive, and Wayne
K., then we could have us a regular soiree. :-) If folks want, I can
plan to hang out at the campground Friday a.m., until we get all the
suspects rounded up. Then we can hike up the Little River trail or head
out to some other water.


Chuck Vance

ok...i'll plan on leaving the comforts, warmth, pleasantness, and
ho****ershowerstoverefrigeratorcuisine&wine at a good friend's lakeside
retreat early am friday and try to arrive at elkmont by 8 am. need i
say...your beer better be properly chilled and damn good. g looking
forward to finally meeting one of roff's librarians... um...how do i
locate y'all? will you have steerhorns on your vehicle, wearing ten
gallon and boots, playing lyle lovett or townes van zandt...g

jeff

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jeff wrote:

ok...i'll plan on leaving the comforts, warmth, pleasantness, and
ho****ershowerstoverefrigeratorcuisine&wine at a good friend's lakeside
retreat early am friday and try to arrive at elkmont by 8 am. need i
say...your beer better be properly chilled and damn good. g looking
forward to finally meeting one of roff's librarians... um...how do i
locate y'all? will you have steerhorns on your vehicle, wearing ten
gallon and boots, playing lyle lovett or townes van zandt...g

All of the above, plus I'll be driving a bookmobile. ;-) Look for
me in the (riverside) G or H section of the campground (cross the river
and bear right after you enter the campground). I drive a late-model,
light-colored Mazda Tribute (mini-SUV).


Chuck Vance (and don't worry about the beer, it'll be nice and cold)