The Color Red
 

While I was in the reading room perusing the latest issue of BassMaster, and
having read every article 2 or 3 times, I noticed the Shakespeare ad for
Cajun Red line. The ad states the advantage with this line is its
invisibility, particularly after 3 feet of depth where the fish cannot see
the line. This is due to the water filtering out red on the lower end of
the light spectrum, rendering the line more or less invisible to fish. OK,
this makes sense to me, sort of.

I must have half a dozen crankbaits of various sizes in red, most of which
run a depths greater than 3 feet. I have caught good numbers of fish on
these red cranks. Now, how in the hell is this possible if the bait is
mostly or entirely invisible to the fish? I must be missing something in
this equation.

The Color Red
 

I have also caught onto the irony he red line is supposed to be
the hardest for fish to see in deep water, but yet we are also being
bombarded with "bleeding" lures now, with red hooks and red splotches
supposedly because fish see the red as blood and think the lure is
wounded and instintivly strike. I find it rather humerous that a red
hook in a plastic worm intended to draw a strike might actually be
harder for the fish to see in deep water than the traditional black or
bronze colored hooks. Probably in certain situations, the fish can
see the red and react to it as blood, and in other situations, the red
is not visible as red, and may be harder for the fish to see.

The Color Red
 

What you are missing in the equation is that red does NOT become invisible.
Fish still see it quite well, however they do not see it red. Instead, it
becomes some unknown mysterious shade of gray or whatever. The concept of
red line is therefore seriously stupid, while the money made selling it due
to this confusion is very serious business. Our website at Secret Weapon
Lures is probably the most educational angling site ever, and is available
24/7 for free!

Bob Rickard
www.secretweaponlures.com

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"johnval1" wrote in message
...
While I was in the reading room perusing the latest issue of BassMaster,
and having read every article 2 or 3 times, I noticed the Shakespeare ad
for Cajun Red line. The ad states the advantage with this line is its
invisibility, particularly after 3 feet of depth where the fish cannot see
the line. This is due to the water filtering out red on the lower end of
the light spectrum, rendering the line more or less invisible to fish.
OK, this makes sense to me, sort of.

I must have half a dozen crankbaits of various sizes in red, most of which
run a depths greater than 3 feet. I have caught good numbers of fish on
these red cranks. Now, how in the hell is this possible if the bait is
mostly or entirely invisible to the fish? I must be missing something in
this equation.

The Color Red
 

when red is filtered out, you will have black or a shade of grey.
depending on ambient light, etc. the object would look light or dark, like
seeing it on a b&w TV.


"johnval1" wrote in message
...
While I was in the reading room perusing the latest issue of BassMaster,
and having read every article 2 or 3 times, I noticed the Shakespeare ad
for Cajun Red line. The ad states the advantage with this line is its
invisibility, particularly after 3 feet of depth where the fish cannot see
the line. This is due to the water filtering out red on the lower end of
the light spectrum, rendering the line more or less invisible to fish.
OK, this makes sense to me, sort of.

I must have half a dozen crankbaits of various sizes in red, most of which
run a depths greater than 3 feet. I have caught good numbers of fish on
these red cranks. Now, how in the hell is this possible if the bait is
mostly or entirely invisible to the fish? I must be missing something in
this equation.

The Color Red = $$$$
 

Lure Manufactures are in the business of catching Fisherman, first and
foremost. Why do you think the need for newer improved lures, better detail,
more rattle, revolutionary design, cool names. Do you honestly think the
fish can see minute scale details painted on the side or read the cool
sounding name of the lure? Its all about $$$ and whatever it takes to catch
the most prize possesion in the lake; the fisherman's wallet! This is not a
knock on the businessman, afterall its what keeps the economy moving; sales
and promotion.

Mike

The Color Red
 

"johnval1" wrote in message
...
While I was in the reading room perusing the latest issue of BassMaster,
and having read every article 2 or 3 times, I noticed the Shakespeare ad
for Cajun Red line. The ad states the advantage with this line is its
invisibility, particularly after 3 feet of depth where the fish cannot see
the line. This is due to the water filtering out red on the lower end of
the light spectrum, rendering the line more or less invisible to fish.
OK, this makes sense to me, sort of.

I must have half a dozen crankbaits of various sizes in red, most of which
run a depths greater than 3 feet. I have caught good numbers of fish on
these red cranks. Now, how in the hell is this possible if the bait is
mostly or entirely invisible to the fish? I must be missing something in
this equation.



Marketing.



--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



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The Color Red
 

Bass didn't stop eating the old tried and true lures....the bass
fishermen just stopped using them. I still catch more bass on the old
purple worm than any other lure in my little "shoe box"!

John B

The Color Red
 

I'd have to say the depth at which Red, or any other color starts to
disappear is based on water clarity. If the water is gin clear, you'll
be able to see red at 10' or more. If the water is muddy, you won't see
it even a couple inches under the surface. According to Keith Jones
(Berkley's lead scientist), Bass (largemouth) can see distinct colors
very well in a certain color range, including red. Red, like purple,
dark blue, and dark green will all turn "black" as light penetration
becomes minimized. Walleye on the other hand can see into the infrared
spectrum, where (allegedly) bass cannot. The exceptions to the color
rule of course are the fluorescent colors, they will hold their colors
with less light penetration.
In my opinion, the concept of red line being invisible is a joke. I
believe I used to watch Doug Hannon use a sharpee and color blocks of
his line with the marker, so every so many feet you would have a black
line. It looked pretty cool with underwater footage, but we have
fluorocarbon now, I am a HUGE fan of fluorocarbon :-)

Chris
johnval1 wrote:
While I was in the reading room perusing the latest issue of BassMaster, and
having read every article 2 or 3 times, I noticed the Shakespeare ad for
Cajun Red line. The ad states the advantage with this line is its
invisibility, particularly after 3 feet of depth where the fish cannot see
the line. This is due to the water filtering out red on the lower end of
the light spectrum, rendering the line more or less invisible to fish. OK,
this makes sense to me, sort of.

I must have half a dozen crankbaits of various sizes in red, most of which
run a depths greater than 3 feet. I have caught good numbers of fish on
these red cranks. Now, how in the hell is this possible if the bait is
mostly or entirely invisible to the fish? I must be missing something in
this equation.

The Color Red
 

"johnval1" wrote in message
...
While I was in the reading room perusing the latest issue of BassMaster,
and having read every article 2 or 3 times, I noticed the Shakespeare ad
for Cajun Red line. The ad states the advantage with this line is its
invisibility, particularly after 3 feet of depth where the fish cannot see
the line. This is due to the water filtering out red on the lower end of
the light spectrum, rendering the line more or less invisible to fish. OK,
this makes sense to me, sort of.

I must have half a dozen crankbaits of various sizes in red, most of which
run a depths greater than 3 feet. I have caught good numbers of fish on
these red cranks. Now, how in the hell is this possible if the bait is
mostly or entirely invisible to the fish? I must be missing something in
this equation.



Marketing.

--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



--
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The Color Red
 

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
It looked pretty cool with underwater footage, but we have
fluorocarbon now, I am a HUGE fan of fluorocarbon

Please don't get me started on fluorocarbon Chris. I have learned to hate
the stuff worse than death itself. Stiff, fragile, difficult to knot, I
find this material has few redeeming qualities. I have tried many different
brands and have been dissatisfied with them all. I just loaded up some
Seaguar for my last effort with this stuff. If it fails, I will retreat to
mono and braid for whatever I need. I have been happy with Fireline Crystal
so far, so it may be my permanent replacement for fluoro.

The Color Red
 

Your problems with FC are hard to figure. Except for bad experience with
Berkley Vanish,
I've had success with it.

bill

"johnval1" wrote in message
t...

Please don't get me started on fluorocarbon Chris. I have learned to hate
the stuff worse than death itself. Stiff, fragile, difficult to knot, I
find this material has few redeeming qualities. I have tried many
different brands and have been dissatisfied with them all. I just loaded
up some Seaguar for my last effort with this stuff. If it fails, I will
retreat to mono and braid for whatever I need.

The Color Red
 

It is my understanding is that it has to do with light reflection, the
hook/crankbait reflects the light (red color), the line does not reflect the
light, thus becomes hard to see.


"johnval1" wrote in message
...
While I was in the reading room perusing the latest issue of BassMaster,
and having read every article 2 or 3 times, I noticed the Shakespeare ad
for Cajun Red line. The ad states the advantage with this line is its
invisibility, particularly after 3 feet of depth where the fish cannot see
the line. This is due to the water filtering out red on the lower end of
the light spectrum, rendering the line more or less invisible to fish.
OK, this makes sense to me, sort of.

I must have half a dozen crankbaits of various sizes in red, most of which
run a depths greater than 3 feet. I have caught good numbers of fish on
these red cranks. Now, how in the hell is this possible if the bait is
mostly or entirely invisible to the fish? I must be missing something in
this equation.

The Color Red
 

John,

I use Seaguar CarbonPro,Seaguar GrandMax, and P-Line CFX. Never had any
issues with breakage outside of issues that were my own fault. Like not
properly wetting the line before cinching down my knot. Vanish is
another story. The stuff is absolute garbage, and if I could find the
email from Berkley that they sent me in regards to the issue, you would
see a direct quote echoing my feelings of Vanish, right from Berkley.
I fish fluoro through zebra mussels daily, with tubes, crankbaits, and
spider grubs, and only time I ever break my line is when I get lazy and
do not retie. I use all the way down to 2lb test for Browns and
steelhead in the winter if the water is crystal clear, and again, never
have an issue with breakage. Also, Frog Hair fluoro has proven to be
very strong, but it is very expensive (like Grand Max.).
Trust me, after using Vanish, I was very very down on Fluoro, and was
ready to switch back to Mono for everything, or P-Line fluoroclear, but
since committing to Seaguar and CFX I wouldn't hesitate picking it up
during a tournament with money on the line.

Chris

The Color Red
 

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
John,

I use Seaguar CarbonPro,Seaguar GrandMax, and P-Line CFX. Never had any
issues with breakage outside of issues that were my own fault. Like not
properly wetting the line before cinching down my knot. Vanish is another
story. The stuff is absolute garbage, and if I could find the email from
Berkley that they sent me in regards to the issue, you would see a direct
quote echoing my feelings of Vanish, right from Berkley.

I follow the field manual on care and use of FC. I think you and Bill have
hit on part of my problem. I was spooled up with Vanish and the stuff is
rotten indeed. I do like the 15 lb Vanish Leader material to make spinning
harnesses however.

I have also tried Yo-Zuri FC and Yo-Zuri Hybrid and have been less than
impressed with their handling characteristics. I am going out tomorrow with
Seaguar CarbonPro to see how it handles. It feels entirely different from
the others I have tried so it may work out OK.

The Color Red
 

On Wed, 09 May 2007 19:12:52 GMT, "johnval1"
wrote:

While I was in the reading room perusing the latest issue of BassMaster, and
having read every article 2 or 3 times, I noticed the Shakespeare ad for
Cajun Red line. The ad states the advantage with this line is its
invisibility, particularly after 3 feet of depth where the fish cannot see
the line. This is due to the water filtering out red on the lower end of
the light spectrum, rendering the line more or less invisible to fish. OK,
this makes sense to me, sort of.

I must have half a dozen crankbaits of various sizes in red, most of which
run a depths greater than 3 feet. I have caught good numbers of fish on
these red cranks. Now, how in the hell is this possible if the bait is
mostly or entirely invisible to the fish? I must be missing something in
this equation.



Cajun Red is nothing but a sales gimmick for "non-thinking" anglers.
Red is the first color to disappear, I think everyone knows that,
but what has that got to do with line visibility?

Why not start out with a clear, water-colored line???
Oh no, instead Cajun dyes the line Red, then tells you not to worry,
just wait around until the red disappears.
Okay, when the color Red has finally been shrouded by water depth,
Cajun line is finally as invisible as clear, water-colored line
started out, when it first hit the water!!
I can't believe that anyone would actually fall for that crock!

John