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Sparky July 30th, 2007 12:08 AM

Gorging bass
 
Quick question for ya'll. I've been fishing smallmouth with jigs and
once or twice this season I've had a bass gorge the jig. Obviously this
isn't a good thing, but I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on what I
can do to avoid allowing the fish to swallow the whole jig. And also, if
this does happen, does it make sense to try to find some sort of long
nose side cutters to snip to hook in half to remove it?

TIA for any advise.

Bob La Londe July 30th, 2007 03:19 AM

Gorging bass
 
On Jul 29, 4:08 pm, Sparky
wrote:
Quick question for ya'll. I've been fishing smallmouth with jigs and
once or twice this season I've had a bass gorge the jig. Obviously this
isn't a good thing, but I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on what I
can do to avoid allowing the fish to swallow the whole jig. And also, if
this does happen, does it make sense to try to find some sort of long
nose side cutters to snip to hook in half to remove it?

TIA for any advise.



Get a de-barb, Its made for cutting hooks.


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com


Hyperactive July 30th, 2007 04:39 AM

Gorging bass
 

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jul 29, 4:08 pm, Sparky
wrote:
Quick question for ya'll. I've been fishing smallmouth with jigs and
once or twice this season I've had a bass gorge the jig. Obviously this
isn't a good thing, but I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on what I
can do to avoid allowing the fish to swallow the whole jig. And also, if
this does happen, does it make sense to try to find some sort of long
nose side cutters to snip to hook in half to remove it?

TIA for any advise.



Get a de-barb, Its made for cutting hooks.


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



Try to feel the bite a little earlier and set the hook sooner...



Sparky July 30th, 2007 10:59 PM

Gorging bass
 
Hyperactive wrote:

Try to feel the bite a little earlier and set the hook sooner...


I think you may be right. I was watching a video we took of the last
fish that gorged the jig and it looks like I'm letting the line go lax a
little when I'm jerking it forward (not reeling the line quick enough).
I suspect (and I may be wrong) that when the line is lax, it gives the
bass time to swallow it.



Sparky July 30th, 2007 11:09 PM

Gorging bass
 
Bob La Londe wrote:

Get a de-barb, Its made for cutting hooks.


I didn't even know they made ones specifically for hooks. I went to the
local tackle shop and the guy there showed me this really nice pair of
extremely skinny snips and even let me try it out on some hooks. The tip
is even magnetized. Thanks so much for the tip!

Jerry Barton July 31st, 2007 12:20 AM

Gorging bass
 
I've mentioned this site a few times in here, only because I use them and
they're perfect for the job.
http://www.dbarb.com/


"Sparky" wrote in message
...
Bob La Londe wrote:

Get a de-barb, Its made for cutting hooks.


I didn't even know they made ones specifically for hooks. I went to the
local tackle shop and the guy there showed me this really nice pair of
extremely skinny snips and even let me try it out on some hooks. The tip
is even magnetized. Thanks so much for the tip!




Chris Rennert July 31st, 2007 01:34 AM

Gorging bass
 
Sparky,

I found that using a very lite (weight wise, not rod type), fast action
(medium or medium lite) rod helps with detecting strikes. On top of
that using Power-Pro with a fluoro leader keeps me in constant contact
with my jig all the way down to 1/16 oz.(used for jigging walleye in weeds).

There are still times when they get the best of me and swallow it, and
then long forceps or hook cutters are necessary.

Chris

John B July 31st, 2007 02:46 AM

Gorging bass
 
I do a "quick" hook set to try an avoid deep hooks. I don't mind missing
some fish that way. But when I do get a deep hook,I try and remove the
hook with as lttle damage as pssible. One way I have found to be
effective, is to work through the gill plate on larger fish... I take
the line and push it out through the gill plate (the very back), then I
can usually take my fingers and work the hook lose and pull it out
backwards through the gill plate so it doesn't re-hook.

This may sound confusing...but it works.

My kid taught me that method, he always wants live fish in the "well".
:)

John K


E. Carl Speros August 4th, 2007 09:27 PM

Gorging bass
 
Many of the pros say that rather than try to disgorge the hook from a
gut hooked fish, to snip the line at or very near the hook. In time the
hook will rust & come out (or so I've heard) I had to do that with a gut
hooked 6 lb. + Smallie in Ortario, but it bothered me for a long time
afterward. It was on a single hook (lizard) & I saw no signs of a
struggling fish, so I can hope she made it okay. I'm sure she'd have
died if I'd tried to extract the hook. Carl




Joshuall August 7th, 2007 04:41 PM

Gorging bass
 
I know what you mean Carl. I've heard all my grown up life that if you cut
the line and leave the hook in it will rust out in a matter of days. I don't
believe it. I'm not sure how long it will take to come out if it does, but
I'm not buying the "couple days" or even weeks theory unless someone here
knows of a study that supports that.

A few weeks ago, maybe a month or more now that i think of it, I saw a
program on tv that recommended leaving a long piece of line along with the
hook . . . like six inches or so. I'm not sure of the reasoning, but that
also made no sense to me. . . having this animal swimming around with a
piece of line hanging out of it's mouth that we all know won't melt away for
the next thousand years !

like to hear any other thoughts


--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



johnval1 August 7th, 2007 08:46 PM

Gorging bass
 

"Joshuall" wrote in message
I know what you mean Carl. I've heard all my grown up life that if you cut
the line and leave the hook in it will rust out in a matter of days. I
don't believe it. I'm not sure how long it will take to come out if it
does, but I'm not buying the "couple days" or even weeks theory unless
someone here knows of a study that supports that.


A couple of months ago, I saw a fishing program on tv in which the host
caught a smallmouth someplace up north. It could have been Al Lindner in
Wisconson or Minnesota. Anyway, they pulled this beautiful fish into the
the boat and there, exiting from the fish's anus, was a jig head and hook.
Not a mark on the hook, and while I can't say the fish was unharmed, it swam
away with apparent vigor when released. No signs of a blood trail or
anything.

However long that hook was in the fish, it did not appear to be rusted or
disturbed in any way.

I have wondered ever since if they kept the new-found jig and re-used it or
just hung onto it for a fish story.



MoiMoi August 8th, 2007 02:43 AM

Gorging bass
 
In article ,
says...

I know what you mean Carl. I've heard all my grown up life that if you cut
the line and leave the hook in it will rust out in a matter of days. I don't
believe it. I'm not sure how long it will take to come out if it does, but
I'm not buying the "couple days" or even weeks theory unless someone here
knows of a study that supports that.


Well, hell, just put a few hooks into some lake water and watch.
They'll still be just fine a year later.
Maybe 10 years later.
At least as long as they stay submerged.

Salt water, much different of course.

MM

Joe Haubenreich August 8th, 2007 10:16 PM

Gorging bass
 
I did that a half-dozen times last week in Ontario, and every fish was
released without any evidence of distress, bleeding, or damage. you have to
work pretty quick, though, to get the fish back in the water as soon as
possible.

Joe


"John B" wrote in message
...
I do a "quick" hook set to try an avoid deep hooks. I don't mind missing
some fish that way. But when I do get a deep hook,I try and remove the
hook with as lttle damage as pssible. One way I have found to be
effective, is to work through the gill plate on larger fish... I take
the line and push it out through the gill plate (the very back), then I
can usually take my fingers and work the hook lose and pull it out
backwards through the gill plate so it doesn't re-hook.

This may sound confusing...but it works.

My kid taught me that method, he always wants live fish in the "well".
:)

John K




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