i hate baseball..
 

GODDAMN!!

For a sport that supposed to be the apple pie of Americana, it sure stings
to watch the Cubs and Sox get pinched out once again. Our country is
supposed to stand for the rights of the little guy, the Reaganesque idea
that 'everyone can grow up to be a millionaire', the level playing field
where hard work and pureness of spirit pay off. But being a new englander,
and living in the shadow of the obtuse Great Satan with (as Forty put so
eloquently) its thuggish fans and overpaid prima donnas (and not just in
baseball), it is just abso****inglutely unfair and unamerican to put the
good people of the northeast through the yearly torture of building up their
hopes, filling them with small town pride and honor, then ripping their
hearts out with those filthy hands and stomping on them, laughing with those
stupid new york accents and spewing their disgusting sense of 'I got it all
and I want more' into the humble, pure country air of New England.

Argh. Unless you grew up in upper right hand corner, you have no idea of the
reality of how this affects your life each year, to see the hated, fat cat,
overpampered, flabby-armed new yorkers get their selfish, perverse little
way, once agian, in one more way at the expense of everyone around them. I
don't *care* who got the most runs....once again, the Bosox DESERVED to win.
This is just....so.....wrong!!

--riverman
(don't TALK to me right now.)

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riverman wrote:
GODDAMN!!

For a sport that supposed to be the apple pie of Americana, it sure stings
to watch the Cubs and Sox get pinched out once again. Our country is
supposed to stand for the rights of the little guy, the Reaganesque idea
that 'everyone can grow up to be a millionaire', the level playing field
where hard work and pureness of spirit pay off. But being a new englander,
and living in the shadow of the obtuse Great Satan with (as Forty put so
eloquently) its thuggish fans and overpaid prima donnas (and not just in
baseball), it is just abso****inglutely unfair and unamerican to put the
good people of the northeast through the yearly torture of building up their
hopes, filling them with small town pride and honor, then ripping their
hearts out with those filthy hands and stomping on them, laughing with those
stupid new york accents and spewing their disgusting sense of 'I got it all
and I want more' into the humble, pure country air of New England.

Argh. Unless you grew up in upper right hand corner, you have no idea of the
reality of how this affects your life each year, to see the hated, fat cat,
overpampered, flabby-armed new yorkers get their selfish, perverse little
way, once agian, in one more way at the expense of everyone around them. I
don't *care* who got the most runs....once again, the Bosox DESERVED to win.
This is just....so.....wrong!!

--riverman
(don't TALK to me right now.)


Thanks for the laugh. We needed it!

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"riverman" wrote in message
...
GODDAMN!!

For a sport that supposed to be the apple pie of Americana, it sure stings
to watch the Cubs and Sox get pinched out once again. Our country is
supposed to stand for the rights of the little guy, the Reaganesque idea
that 'everyone can grow up to be a millionaire', the level playing field
where hard work and pureness of spirit pay off. But being a new englander,
and living in the shadow of the obtuse Great Satan with (as Forty put so
eloquently) its thuggish fans and overpaid prima donnas (and not just in
baseball), it is just abso****inglutely unfair and unamerican to put the
good people of the northeast through the yearly torture of building up
their
hopes, filling them with small town pride and honor, then ripping their
hearts out with those filthy hands and stomping on them, laughing with
those
stupid new york accents and spewing their disgusting sense of 'I got it
all
and I want more' into the humble, pure country air of New England.

Argh. Unless you grew up in upper right hand corner, you have no idea of
the
reality of how this affects your life each year, to see the hated, fat
cat,
overpampered, flabby-armed new yorkers get their selfish, perverse little
way, once agian, in one more way at the expense of everyone around them. I
don't *care* who got the most runs....once again, the Bosox DESERVED to
win.
This is just....so.....wrong!!

--riverman
(don't TALK to me right now.)


That is so much a metaphor for the way this country real is, and the way it
is being run. I'm voting New England in the next presidential election, and
I live in Tennessee.

Memphis Jim

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"riverman" wrote in
:

Argh. Unless you grew up in upper right hand corner, you have no idea
of the reality of how this affects your life each year, to see the
hated, fat cat, overpampered, flabby-armed new yorkers get their
selfish, perverse little way, once agian, in one more way at the
expense of everyone around them. I don't *care* who got the most
runs....once again, the Bosox DESERVED to win. This is
just....so.....wrong!!

--riverman
(don't TALK to me right now.)




Actually, after game 3, its hard to argue that they deserved to win.

Scott

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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
.4...
"riverman" wrote in
:

Argh. Unless you grew up in upper right hand corner, you have no idea
of the reality of how this affects your life each year, to see the
hated, fat cat, overpampered, flabby-armed new yorkers get their
selfish, perverse little way, once agian, in one more way at the
expense of everyone around them. I don't *care* who got the most
runs....once again, the Bosox DESERVED to win. This is
just....so.....wrong!!

--riverman
(don't TALK to me right now.)




Actually, after game 3, its hard to argue that they deserved to win.


Nonsense. They deserved to lose game 3. Their deserving to win the Pennant
and Series runs much, much deeper than that. Its in the air of New England,
the clean water, the resurgent salmon and trout, the hard-working-underpaid
labors of the rural folk of Maine and Vermont, the frugal 'getting-by'
attitude of entire towns, the simple values and deep friendships of college
buddies, the 'nature first' set of rules and laws they live by.

--riverman
(where's the freaking background violins when you need them!?)

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"riverman" wrote in message ...

Argh. Unless you grew up in upper right hand corner, you have no idea of the
reality of how this affects your life each year,

Relax, man...this "reality" has no impact at all on _real_ reality :-)
(and I grew up in Cleveland so I know a little about last-minute-losing
sports teams :-)

Seriously, though, I can't stand baseball. Its the most boring
professional sport out there. Except maybe soccer. (Oops, that's
not professional anymore, at least on this side of the pond.)

When I was still young I made a vow that I'd never choose to _watch_
a sports game if I had the opportunity to go out and actually play
one. Sure I could sit and enjoy a Browns game, but if someone else
was up for playing nine, I was outta there...turns out that a Browns
game is the best time to be out on the golf course...you have it
almost all to yourselves :-)

Now that I live out west, with _soo_ much to do outdoors all the time,
I can't hardly make it through a game on TV. It's just so boring.
Any sport.

Well, except golf. The Sunday round of a major where the leader board
is tight is awfully hard to beat...

I'm sure I'll get flamed for that!

Jon.

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Jonathan Cook wrote:

Relax, man...this "reality" has no impact at all on _real_ reality :-)
...
Seriously, though, I can't stand baseball. Its the most boring
professional sport out there.
...
I can't hardly make it through a game on TV. It's just so boring.
Any sport.

Well, except golf. The Sunday round of a major where the leader board
is tight is awfully hard to beat...

Baseball is boring, but golf, GOLF !!, is hard to beat ?!?

Your "reality" has no impact at all on _real_ reality.

And baseball is boring only to those who don't understand baseball.

--
Ken Fortenberry- consider yourself flamed ;-)

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My parents practiced the cruelest form of child abuse...they made me a Cubs
fan! My thoughts on the whole sad thing is this....The Cubbies choked and
the Red Sox did the same thing. Hex, curse, bad calls, bad press.....nothing
beats a team that won't give up...They both folded like a cheap suit, IMO.
The poor guy in Chitown that touched a foul ball (he was one of about 20
that reached for it) is being blamed for the collapse. The next pitch went
to the backstop and 8 runs scored before two more outs. Whose fault was
that?

Wait till next year! (sigh)....

Mark



"riverman" wrote in message
...
GODDAMN!!

For a sport that supposed to be the apple pie of Americana, it sure stings
to watch the Cubs and Sox get pinched out once again. Our country is
supposed to stand for the rights of the little guy, the Reaganesque idea
that 'everyone can grow up to be a millionaire', the level playing field
where hard work and pureness of spirit pay off. But being a new englander,
and living in the shadow of the obtuse Great Satan with (as Forty put so
eloquently) its thuggish fans and overpaid prima donnas (and not just in
baseball), it is just abso****inglutely unfair and unamerican to put the
good people of the northeast through the yearly torture of building up
their
hopes, filling them with small town pride and honor, then ripping their
hearts out with those filthy hands and stomping on them, laughing with
those
stupid new york accents and spewing their disgusting sense of 'I got it
all
and I want more' into the humble, pure country air of New England.

Argh. Unless you grew up in upper right hand corner, you have no idea of
the
reality of how this affects your life each year, to see the hated, fat
cat,
overpampered, flabby-armed new yorkers get their selfish, perverse little
way, once agian, in one more way at the expense of everyone around them. I
don't *care* who got the most runs....once again, the Bosox DESERVED to
win.
This is just....so.....wrong!!

--riverman
(don't TALK to me right now.)




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Mark W. Oots wrote:

My parents practiced the cruelest form of child abuse...they made me a Cubs
fan!

You have my deepest sympathies. I am a Cardinals fan and I can't even
begin to imagine the psychological damage you have endured. Although
the 1968 World Series did wreak havoc on my 11 year old psyche. ;-)

....The Cubbies choked and
the Red Sox did the same thing. Hex, curse, bad calls, bad press.....nothing
beats a team that won't give up...They both folded like a cheap suit, IMO.

You're full of it. Both the Cubs and the BoSox were beaten by better baseball
teams. Period, end of paragraph.

The poor guy in Chitown that touched a foul ball (he was one of about 20
that reached for it) is being blamed for the collapse. ...

He was one of about 4 or 5 but he's the one who knocked it away from Alou's
glove. He should be excoriated, he was a moron. He had a front row seat and
he ****ed up his own team. You cannot give a playoff team an extra out in
the eighth inning, it's inexcusable and stupid.

Meanwhile, from a cave in Pakistan

http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/...-april.gallery

;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:

And baseball is boring only to those who don't understand baseball.


Absolutely true.

Russell
(If you have to have it explained to you, you would never understand.)

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Uh, no. Now me? I 'really' hate baseball. It bothers me that it is receiving
so much news coverage right now.

Scratch my nuts and spit.....john

....don't like football either....golf...phooey......and hoops, I hate the
hoops too....


"riverman" wrote in message
...
GODDAMN!!

For a sport that supposed to be the apple pie of Americana, it sure stings
to watch the Cubs and Sox get pinched out once again. Our country is
supposed to stand for the rights of the little guy, the Reaganesque idea
that 'everyone can grow up to be a millionaire', the level playing field
where hard work and pureness of spirit pay off. But being a new englander,
and living in the shadow of the obtuse Great Satan with (as Forty put so
eloquently) its thuggish fans and overpaid prima donnas (and not just in
baseball), it is just abso****inglutely unfair and unamerican to put the
good people of the northeast through the yearly torture of building up
their
hopes, filling them with small town pride and honor, then ripping their
hearts out with those filthy hands and stomping on them, laughing with
those
stupid new york accents and spewing their disgusting sense of 'I got it
all
and I want more' into the humble, pure country air of New England.

Argh. Unless you grew up in upper right hand corner, you have no idea of
the
reality of how this affects your life each year, to see the hated, fat
cat,
overpampered, flabby-armed new yorkers get their selfish, perverse little
way, once agian, in one more way at the expense of everyone around them. I
don't *care* who got the most runs....once again, the Bosox DESERVED to
win.
This is just....so.....wrong!!

--riverman
(don't TALK to me right now.)

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"asadi" wrote in message
...
Uh, no. Now me? I 'really' hate baseball. It bothers me that it is
receiving
so much news coverage right now.

Scratch my nuts and spit.....john

...don't like football either....golf...phooey......and hoops, I hate the
hoops too....


OK, but how do you feel about Slamball?

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On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:19:14 GMT, "Stan Gula"
wrote:

OK, but how do you feel about Slamball?

Now there's a strategy game.
--
Charlie...

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Russell wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

And baseball is boring only to those who don't understand baseball.


Absolutely true.

I disagree. There was a period in my life that I really enjoyed
baseball, and I do understand it perfectly. Nowadays I find it boring
for the most part. I blame it on gaining an understanding of hockey. ;-)

Graham


--

And as an afterthought, this must too be told,
Some people are taking pure bull****, and turning it into gold.
- Grandpa Green (Greendale, CA USA)

What's happening in Idledale? Not Much! http://www.idledale.com/

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On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:39:34 -0600, Graham Knight
wrote:



Russell wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

And baseball is boring only to those who don't understand baseball.


Absolutely true.

I disagree. There was a period in my life that I really enjoyed
baseball, and I do understand it perfectly. Nowadays I find it boring
for the most part. I blame it on gaining an understanding of hockey. ;-)

Graham


AHHH, the Canuckistanni rot has set in . . . . Next, you'll be
believing in universal health care. :)

Peter

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Uh, no. Now me? I 'really' hate baseball. It bothers me that it is
receiving so much news coverage right no
...don't like football either....golf...phooey......and hoops, I hate the
hoops too....

To my mind, the best post of the day. Let all the professional athletes go
play with each other for no money and donate their salaries to teachers
instead.

----
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar
Save a cow, eat a PETA

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm

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Ken Fortenberry wrote in message y.com...

And baseball is boring only to those who don't understand baseball.

Guilty as charged, and hopin' to stay that way ;-)

Jon.

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God. The one you trust your budding teenage daughter to at all hours works
for a pittance, and the one you wouldn't trust you ugly arthritic
grandmother to gets paid millions. Go figure.

john
"slenon" wrote in message
. com...

Uh, no. Now me? I 'really' hate baseball. It bothers me that it is
receiving so much news coverage right no
...don't like football either....golf...phooey......and hoops, I hate the
hoops too....

To my mind, the best post of the day. Let all the professional athletes
go
play with each other for no money and donate their salaries to teachers
instead.

----
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar
Save a cow, eat a PETA

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm

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On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:30:49 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:



And baseball is boring only to those who don't understand baseball.


And I once did. Right up until the second player strike. The first
one, well, okay, they were doing stuff like pensions for the old
timers who never had a chance to have a million dollar contract as
well as taking care of themselves. It made decent PR. But since
then, phtoooie on the players, the owners, the whole greedy bunch of
them.

BTW, I've not noticed kids out anywhere doing a pickup game of
baseball in forever. Street hockey, street soccer, garage
basketball, but not pickup baseball. They're playing, but with mom
and dad taking them to practice and the games and with coaches and all
that crud. How are you going to get the spirit of baseball when
you've got a real diamond and people watching and coaches telling you
stuff? Not to mention uniforms.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:

......You cannot give a playoff team an extra out in
the eighth inning, it's inexcusable and stupid.

Dumb, sure, but inexcusable? It's a game.

JR

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God. The one you trust your budding teenage daughter to at all hours works
for a pittance, and the one you wouldn't trust you ugly arthritic
grandmother to gets paid millions. Go figure.
john

They can't figure. That's why they all have agents.

Somewhere along the way we took a wrong turn and decided that peop[e who
play games professionally were heroes. We'd be better off if we took these
games out of our schools and put the money saved into books and teachers'
salaries. If the professional athletics franchises want training camps for
teenagers, let them pay for it.

----
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar
Save a cow, eat a PETA

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm

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riverman wrote:

angst snipped

Argh. Unless you grew up in upper right hand corner, you have no idea of the
reality of how this affects your life each year, to see the hated, fat cat,
overpampered, flabby-armed new yorkers get their selfish, perverse little
way, once agian, in one more way at the expense of everyone around them. I
don't *care* who got the most runs....once again, the Bosox DESERVED to win.
This is just....so.....wrong!!

--riverman
(don't TALK to me right now.)



I can't compare New Englanders' pain to other's pain, but other do feel
the pain. This from one of the Utah daily newspapers.

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,515039629,00.html

Russell
Who will be watching a pathetic BYU football team and not the World
Series today.

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rw wrote:

snipage

but the
people who are really responsible for the corruption of professional
sports are the fans who pay absurd ticket prices, and I think we might
agree on that.


Too true. Unfortunatly, if you build it, they will come.

Russell
One of the sheep too often.

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slenon wrote:
God. The one you trust your budding teenage daughter to at all hours works
for a pittance, and the one you wouldn't trust you ugly arthritic
grandmother to gets paid millions. Go figure.
john


They can't figure. That's why they all have agents.

Somewhere along the way we took a wrong turn and decided that peop[e who
play games professionally were heroes. We'd be better off if we took these
games out of our schools and put the money saved into books and teachers'
salaries. If the professional athletics franchises want training camps for
teenagers, let them pay for it.

We're talking about baseball, right?

Professional baseball does and always has paid for "training camps for
teenagers." It's called the minor leagues.

Unlike football and (to a lesser degree) basketball, professional
baseball doesn't primarily recruit from colleges. If a baseball player
doesn't get recruited out of high school, he's probably not going to
make it to The Show.

I think professional athletes are entitled to all the money they can
get, just like anyone else with a special skill. It irritates the hell
out of me when I see what someone like Shaq does with his money (huge
collection of expensive cars, hunting on game farms, etc.), but the
people who are really responsible for the corruption of professional
sports are the fans who pay absurd ticket prices, and I think we might
agree on that.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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Graham Knight wrote:



Russell wrote:

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

And baseball is boring only to those who don't understand baseball.


Absolutely true.


I disagree. There was a period in my life that I really enjoyed
baseball, and I do understand it perfectly.

Perfectly! Uh, oh never mind . . .

Nowadays I find it boring
for the most part. I blame it on gaining an understanding of hockey. ;-)

Hockey! Soccor on speed and for the most part unwatchable.

Russell

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Jonathan Cook wrote:

Ken Fortenberry wrote in message y.com...


And baseball is boring only to those who don't understand baseball.


Guilty as charged, and hopin' to stay that way ;-)


Yeah, and your better off, too.

Russell
Who wants to go fishing--but can't.

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rw:
We're talking about baseball, right?

Not entirely

Professional baseball does and always has paid for "training camps for
teenagers." It's called the minor leagues.

No argument there, the minor leagues exist and draw some fan support.

Unlike football and (to a lesser degree) basketball, professional baseball
doesn't primarily recruit from colleges.

Agree again. Baseball makes no real effort to lie to fans and convince them
that the star athletes are all carrying serious academic loads and being
treated like other students on campus.

but the people who are really responsible for the corruption of
professional
sports are the fans who pay absurd ticket prices, and I think we might
agree on that.

I agree pretty much with that statement. But I'm damned if I know how to
open the eyes of people willing to spend a week's net income to watch a
bunch of gladiators and consume overpriced food and beer.

----
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm

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On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:30:49 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

And baseball is boring only to those who don't understand baseball.

Well, in terms of being boring and incomprehensible, it compares well
with cricket.

Not with football. Well, NCAA football, anyway. Since my boys are
arguably the worst in the Big Eight...BTW, my condolences on the
orange peels being molested so badly by Bo Shembeckler's offspring.

;-)

Mike S. Medintz
"Never give a sword to one who has not learned
to dance." -Miyamoto Musashi

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Russell D. wrote:


Hockey! Soccor on speed and for the most part unwatchable.


Hockey is unwatchable only to those who don't understand hockey. ;-) :-)

Graham


--

And as an afterthought, this must too be told,
Some people are taking pure bull****, and turning it into gold.
- Grandpa Green (Greendale, CA USA)

What's happening in Idledale? Not Much! http://www.idledale.com/

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Graham Knight wrote:


Russell D. wrote:



Hockey! Soccor on speed and for the most part unwatchable.


Hockey is unwatchable only to those who don't understand hockey. ;-) :-)

Graham



The same applies to soccer, me thinks.

--
Herman

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"Herman Nijland" wrote in message
...
Graham Knight wrote:


Russell D. wrote:



Hockey! Soccor on speed and for the most part unwatchable.


Hockey is unwatchable only to those who don't understand hockey. ;-) :-)

Graham



The same applies to soccer, me thinks.

On the contrary, soccer, hockey, baseball, basketball, golf, football, auto
racing, and horse racing are unwatchable for anyone who DOES understand
them.

Wolfgang
women's volleyball, on the other hand.......

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Perhaps we could justify the out of sight compensation for professional
athletes if we reverted back to the actuality of the gladiatorial concept
and slaughtered the losing teams. That would also allow more would-be
athletes to fill the ranks of the various franchises and therefore cut
unemployment among that portion of our populace who pegged their hopes on
athletic scholarships and professional franchise contracts.



----
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Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm

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Greg Pavlov wrote:

I was into baseball, a Dodger fan from 1956 on for
about 30 years, but when it got to the point that I had to
learn 10 - 15 new names in the box scores each year,
I gradually lost connection to the "team."

Yeah, and the turn-over rate started to increase just at the time our
memories started to......

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Greg Pavlov wrote:

The pace in a hockey game can be amazing: it's
basketball on steroids. Too bad that it's also WWF
on steroids.


A couple little fights a game does not constitute the WWF on steriods.
Either that or I have a warped sense of what the WWF is - which could
be, i never watch such drivel, i must not understand it enough. ;-)

The thing I like the most about hockey is that it is a true team sport.
If you are not a team player, you will suck, end of story.

Graham



--

And as an afterthought, this must too be told,
Some people are taking pure bull****, and turning it into gold.
- Grandpa Green (Greendale, CA USA)

What's happening in Idledale? Not Much! http://www.idledale.com/

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Greg Pavlov wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:25:08 -0600, Graham Knight
wrote:


A couple little fights a game does not constitute the WWF on steriods.



"Little", eh ? Didn't someone on the Sabres just break their
arm being slammed into the boards with the puck nowhere
nearby ?


You know what, you're right - stay away from hockey please. :-)


Graham

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"slenon" wrote in message om...

[snippety doo dah]

But I'm damned if I know how to
open the eyes of people willing to spend a week's net income to watch a
bunch of gladiators and consume overpriced food and beer.

And exactly why do you think you need to "open the eyes" of these
people?


Chuck Vance (Damned if I know how to open the eyes of people
willing to spend a week's net income on carbon fiber sticks and
PVC-coated string to which they attach feathers and hook, then stand
waist-deep in cold water waving the stick in an attempt to hook some
fish, only to let the fish go afterwards.)

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Conan the librarian:
And exactly why do you think you need to "open the eyes" of these
people?

I don't know that I do. However, tilting at this particular windmill is as
good as any other.

----
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm

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"slenon" wrote in message m...

Conan the librarian:
And exactly why do you think you need to "open the eyes" of these
people?

I don't know that I do. However, tilting at this particular windmill is as
good as any other.

Perhaps, but that statement of yours just reeks of condescension:

But I'm damned if I know how to
open the eyes of people willing to spend a week's net income to watch a
bunch of gladiators and consume overpriced food and beer.

By substituting a few words here and there, you not only describe
all spectator sports, but gambling, eating at a restaurant, going on
vacation, going *fly-fishing*, etc., etc., etc.

Frankly, while we might find any of those diversions silly, as long
as the folks who engage in it are using discretionary cash, it's a bit
presumptuous (and ironic, given the nature of our own hobby) for us to
feel like we need to "enlighten" the poor, dumb masses.


Chuck Vance