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New Sage reel problem.
Hello just bought a Sage 1201 it's a smaller reel with an offset
gears.. I fished with it twice and really think it is a great solid little reel. But when I took the spool off I noticed that the main shaft gear had rust on all the teeth. I fished in a light drizzle with it other than that kept it as dry as I could given the fact that I'm standing in water and my line is wet from water etc. etc...the reel still operates fine. Just wondering if I should be concerned? or if there is anything that I could apply to prevent/remove further rusting? Any Tips appreciated. Brian |
New Sage reel problem.
Have you cleaned off the rust?
1. If yes you have cleaned off the rust so Sage could not see it, I would take the reel fishing one more time and then disassemble it and look for rust' a. if you DO find rust after one more use go to 2 below. b. if you do NOT find rust, then presume the original rust was due to not oiled originally. Watch the reel closely for rust and if rust reappears after cleaning go to 2. below 2. If you have NOT cleaned off the rust, Immediately take the reel back where you bought it and ask for your money back or substitute another reel. 3. Go fish and then look for rust on your new reel. Go to 1 above, if you have rust. Good luck! Go fish. John wrote in message ups.com... Hello just bought a Sage 1201 it's a smaller reel with an offset gears.. I fished with it twice and really think it is a great solid little reel. But when I took the spool off I noticed that the main shaft gear had rust on all the teeth. I fished in a light drizzle with it other than that kept it as dry as I could given the fact that I'm standing in water and my line is wet from water etc. etc...the reel still operates fine. Just wondering if I should be concerned? or if there is anything that I could apply to prevent/remove further rusting? Any Tips appreciated. Brian |
New Sage reel problem.
On Aug 11, 6:10 am, wrote:
Hello just bought a Sage 1201 it's a smaller reel with an offset gears.. I fished with it twice and really think it is a great solid little reel. But when I took the spool off I noticed that the main shaft gear had rust on all the teeth. I fished in a light drizzle with it other than that kept it as dry as I could given the fact that I'm standing in water and my line is wet from water etc. etc...the reel still operates fine. Just wondering if I should be concerned? or if there is anything that I could apply to prevent/remove further rusting? Any Tips appreciated. Brian If itīs rusty anywhere, then it is defective.If gears are rusty on the teeth, they will usually bind and fail before too long, and the rust will cause excessive wear. Reels should not rust in freshwater. Freshwater reels may corrode slightly when used in salt or brackish water, because they are not designed for it, but no reel should rust in fresh water. As the other gentleman advised, take it back and ask for your money back. Before you do so, make sure it actually is rust. I have had people bring "rusty" reels to me, and the "rust" was in fact lubricating grease. This comes in a number of colours and types, and some of it can look a bit like rust. -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en |
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PS, if you fish in "muddy" streams, or get mud on the line etc, some
of the deposits left on the reel when it dries can also look like rust. -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en |
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On Aug 12, 10:22 pm, Mike wrote:
PS, if you fish in "muddy" streams, or get mud on the line etc, some of the deposits left on the reel when it dries can also look like rust. -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en No it's rust. Shop won't take it back say it is a Sage problem. Trying to get a hold of Sage but having trouble actually talking to anyone so I sent an email. We'll see. Worst case here can I regrease it and hope it holds?. It's working fine now but that could change. Thanks for the replies. Brian |
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wrote in message ps.com... On Aug 12, 10:22 pm, Mike wrote: PS, if you fish in "muddy" streams, or get mud on the line etc, some of the deposits left on the reel when it dries can also look like rust. -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en No it's rust. Shop won't take it back say it is a Sage problem. Trying to get a hold of Sage but having trouble actually talking to anyone so I sent an email. We'll see. Worst case here can I regrease it and hope it holds?. It's working fine now but that could change. Thanks for the replies. Brian I would say as long as you keep it cleaned up between uses, you should be fine till getting it replaced. I think I would find a new shop! JT |
New Sage reel problem.
On Aug 14, 9:46 pm, wrote:
On Aug 12, 10:22 pm, Mike wrote: PS, if you fish in "muddy" streams, or get mud on the line etc, some of the deposits left on the reel when it dries can also look like rust. -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en No it's rust. Shop won't take it back say it is a Sage problem. Trying to get a hold of Sage but having trouble actually talking to anyone so I sent an email. We'll see. Worst case here can I regrease it and hope it holds?. It's working fine now but that could change. Thanks for the replies. Brian It wonīt break immediately, especially if you keep it cleaned and greased, but a new reel that goes rusty is just bad news. Once things start rusting, they tend to continue, and once there are pits on the gears, you will have problems. I canīt really figure out why any manufacturer would use materials that might rust, even in a "cheap" reel. As far as I am aware, the shop is bound to take it back if it is defective. The seller is responsible that goods he sells are fit for their intended purpose, and a reel that rusts most patently is not! I am not au fait with the exact merchandising laws in America, but that is the case here. Before you waste time, money and effort running after Sage, go to your local chamber of commerce, and explain the problem. They will usually persuade the dealer to take it back, and refund your money. The reel is not listed on the Sage site, http://www.sageflyfish.com/default.asp?p=58 Furthermore, if the dealer tells you it is a "Sage problem" he is merely trying to get out of his responsibilities. If he means that it is a known problem, he could also be liable for knowingly selling defective and unsuitable goods. Lastly some "cheap" equipment is not really a good idea. If it sounds too good to be true, then it usually is! There are plenty of reasonably priced reliable reels from reputable dealers, and you would be well advised to go that route, once you solve your problem. Walt Winter, who subscribes here is a reliable source, and often highly recommended; http://wilsoncreekoutfitters.com/ These things can be difficult to resolve. But there is no point hanging on to a defective reel. -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en |
New Sage reel problem.
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:02:41 -0700, Mike
wrote: On Aug 14, 9:46 pm, wrote: On Aug 12, 10:22 pm, Mike wrote: PS, if you fish in "muddy" streams, or get mud on the line etc, some of the deposits left on the reel when it dries can also look like rust. -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en No it's rust. Shop won't take it back say it is a Sage problem. Trying to get a hold of Sage but having trouble actually talking to anyone so I sent an email. We'll see. Worst case here can I regrease it and hope it holds?. It's working fine now but that could change. Thanks for the replies. Brian It wonīt break immediately, especially if you keep it cleaned and greased, but a new reel that goes rusty is just bad news. Once things start rusting, they tend to continue, and once there are pits on the gears, you will have problems. I canīt really figure out why any manufacturer would use materials that might rust, even in a "cheap" reel. As far as I am aware, the shop is bound to take it back if it is defective. The seller is responsible that goods he sells are fit for their intended purpose, and a reel that rusts most patently is not! I am not au fait with the exact merchandising laws in America, but that is the case here. Before you waste time, money and effort running after Sage, go to your local chamber of commerce, and explain the problem. They will usually persuade the dealer to take it back, and refund your money. The reel is not listed on the Sage site, http://www.sageflyfish.com/default.asp?p=58 Furthermore, if the dealer tells you it is a "Sage problem" he is merely trying to get out of his responsibilities. If he means that it is a known problem, he could also be liable for knowingly selling defective and unsuitable goods. Lastly some "cheap" equipment is not really a good idea. If it sounds too good to be true, then it usually is! There are plenty of reasonably priced reliable reels from reputable dealers, and you would be well advised to go that route, once you solve your problem. Walt Winter, who subscribes here is a reliable source, and often highly recommended; http://wilsoncreekoutfitters.com/ These things can be difficult to resolve. But there is no point hanging on to a defective reel. And if those layabouts at the Chamber don't immediately go tar and feather that crooked sumbitch reel huckster, call Fulbright and Jaworski at 1 212 318 30...um, look it up...and don't settle for any associates or other nonsense. Tell them you want a partner in the "Rusty Reels" section. Also, call the local police, the sheriff, and the FBI. Don't take no for an answer - stand your ground! You know your rights! Tell 'em Mike Connor told you that you was robbed! Then go back to the dealer and beat him senseless with a sock full of moldy sauerkraut - that'll teach that sorry, evil spawn of the goddamned devil himself! If you get no satisfaction, go buy a 3-axis CNC, and build a replacement part out of a billet of titanium, and see if someone like Northrop-Grumman or the like can put some badass supersecret military coating on the whole thing, just to make sure. ....or maybe just another day or two and see if Sage responds...eh, either route... HTH, R |
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Some alloys of stainless steel have a tendency to create a fine layer of "hard rust" which actually works as a protectant and hardner for wear on those surfaces, and is not considered a detriment, or flaw in the material. That said, I have 3 pfleuger 1492's that are 40 or more years old, have been used in all kinds of adverse water conditions, including salt, that show no signs of ruat whatsoever. Personally, I'd be furious if I spent the money on a brand name like sage, only to have it rust. -- stumpy ------------------------------------------------------------------------ stumpy's Profile: http://www.njflyfishing.com/vBulleti...hp?userid=1915 View this thread: http://www.njflyfishing.com/vBulleti...ad.php?t=12205 ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
New Sage reel problem.
Well thanks for the replies. It's a shame , I'm ...well..rather "financially challenged", and made a decision based on name and reputation and I'm sure it's a rare case. But I'm calling sage um...often and leaving messages getting nowhere. I'm sure it's not a priority to deal with a guy who bought one of their low end reels. But you live and learn I'll keep trying and get to the bottom of it or fish it till it freezes...Hopefully they will return my calls. Thanks, Brian |
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New Sage reel problem.
On Aug 15, 5:39 pm, briansfly wrote:
wrote: Well thanks for the replies. It's a shame , I'm ...well..rather "financially challenged", and made a decision based on name and reputation and I'm sure it's a rare case. But I'm calling sage um...often and leaving messages getting nowhere. I'm sure it's not a priority to deal with a guy who bought one of their low end reels. But you live and learn I'll keep trying and get to the bottom of it or fish it till it freezes...Hopefully they will return my calls. Thanks, Brian I'm curious as to what number you are calling? When i've called, I always get to talk to a person, and have never needed to leave a message. Maybe you're trying after Sage business hours? Or maybe i'm just lucky? ;-) brians No I get an operator and ask for reel repair they transfer meee..rings twice, then a voice mail for Bill comes on everytime...so I leave Bill a message. |
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New Sage reel problem.
On Aug 16, 7:43 am, wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:32:55 -0700, wrote: On Aug 15, 5:39 pm, briansfly wrote: wrote: Well thanks for the replies. It's a shame , I'm ...well..rather "financially challenged", and made a decision based on name and reputation and I'm sure it's a rare case. But I'm calling sage um...often and leaving messages getting nowhere. I'm sure it's not a priority to deal with a guy who bought one of their low end reels. But you live and learn I'll keep trying and get to the bottom of it or fish it till it freezes...Hopefully they will return my calls. Thanks, Brian I'm curious as to what number you are calling? When i've called, I always get to talk to a person, and have never needed to leave a message. Maybe you're trying after Sage business hours? Or maybe i'm just lucky? ;-) brians No I get an operator and ask for reel repair they transfer meee..rings twice, then a voice mail for Bill comes on everytime...so I leave Bill a message. Call back and tell him you're from the Chamber of Commerce...and if that doesn't work, call back and tell them you're the senior partner in the "Rusty Reels" section at Fulbr...er, actually, no, don't do that... TC, R- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - All he's got to do is threaten to post a note about his problems on http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en the most widely read, most authorative fly fishing site in the world. Sage will send him two or three new reels rather than challenge the power behind that web site. |
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BJ Conner wrote:
wrote: wrote: briansfly wrote: wrote: Well thanks for the replies. It's a shame , I'm ...well..rather "financially challenged", and made a decision based on name and reputation and I'm sure it's a rare case. But I'm calling sage um...often and leaving messages getting nowhere. I'm sure it's not a priority to deal with a guy who bought one of their low end reels. But you live and learn I'll keep trying and get to the bottom of it or fish it till it freezes...Hopefully they will return my calls. Thanks, Brian I'm curious as to what number you are calling? When i've called, I always get to talk to a person, and have never needed to leave a message. Maybe you're trying after Sage business hours? Or maybe i'm just lucky? ;-) brians No I get an operator and ask for reel repair they transfer meee..rings twice, then a voice mail for Bill comes on everytime...so I leave Bill a message. Call back and tell him you're from the Chamber of Commerce... Yeah, that works every time. ;-) Apparently Bill is the only guy at Sage who deals with reels. I have an old Sage 5400 and I had a few questions about it so I was directed to Bill. He took awhile getting back to me but he did return email. All he's got to do is threaten to post a note about his problems on http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en the most widely read, most authorative fly fishing site in the world. Sage will send him two or three new reels rather than challenge the power behind that web site. LOL !! That explains the latest infestation of roff by His Silly Mikeness, he got tired of talking to himself. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:59:58 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: BJ Conner wrote: wrote: wrote: briansfly wrote: wrote: Well thanks for the replies. It's a shame , I'm ...well..rather "financially challenged", and made a decision based on name and reputation and I'm sure it's a rare case. But I'm calling sage um...often and leaving messages getting nowhere. I'm sure it's not a priority to deal with a guy who bought one of their low end reels. But you live and learn I'll keep trying and get to the bottom of it or fish it till it freezes...Hopefully they will return my calls. Thanks, Brian I'm curious as to what number you are calling? When i've called, I always get to talk to a person, and have never needed to leave a message. Maybe you're trying after Sage business hours? Or maybe i'm just lucky? ;-) brians No I get an operator and ask for reel repair they transfer meee..rings twice, then a voice mail for Bill comes on everytime...so I leave Bill a message. Call back and tell him you're from the Chamber of Commerce... Yeah, that works every time. ;-) Apparently Bill is the only guy at Sage who deals with reels. I have an old Sage 5400 and I had a few questions about it so I was directed to Bill. He took awhile getting back to me but he did return email. All he's got to do is threaten to post a note about his problems on http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en the most widely read, most authorative fly fishing site in the world. Sage will send him two or three new reels rather than challenge the power behind that web site. LOL !! That explains the latest infestation of roff by His Silly Mikeness, he got tired of talking to himself. OK, I did something I rarely do, and visited the link. And in doing so, I saw another link (from one of the few other posters to the "group," another "Mike") that looked interesting, and thought, hey, what the hell, in for a penny, in for a pound... And here's why, at least for a time, I'll just revert to my policy of "I don't visit other fishing groups, VBBs, etc.": http://www.archive.org/details/MikeL...sForFlyFishing (It's a work-safe video with sound) I'll reserve comment, other than "it should speak for itself," R ....on second thought...one comment: "Maybe 'Shooting Heads - the Plastic Worm of Fly Fishing Lines' will be next in the series..." |
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On Aug 16, 7:49 pm, BJ Conner wrote:
All he's got to do is threaten to post a note about his problems onhttp://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en the most widely read, most authorative fly fishing site in the world. Sage will send him two or three new reels rather than challenge the power behind that web site. Hey dumbo, that is a discussion group, not a website. It has only been on line for a month or so, is mainly concerned, to date, with a specific type of fly- fishing, and I donīt want dumbos on there anyway, they merely waste other peopleīs time. The quite simple rules, as stated on the home page, would preclude many on ROFF using it in any case. Have you ever managed to post a single message, here or anywhere else, which was not full of mistakes? Quite apart from extremely silly and gratuitous insults, mostly connected with matters about which you are obviously woefully ignorant. Before one leaps aboard various bandwagons, one should first ascertain whether any of the occupants can play, as otherwise one merely contributes to the general dissonance. Trumpeters are especially prone to this. -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en |
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On Aug 16, 10:27 pm, wrote:
http://www.archive.org/details/MikeL...sForFlyFishing (It's a work-safe video with sound) I'll reserve comment, other than "it should speak for itself," R ...on second thought...one comment: "Maybe 'Shooting Heads - the Plastic Worm of Fly Fishing Lines' will be next in the series..." That link is not from my group, or even remotely connected with it. It is the result of your stupidity, and inability to operate a simple interface on a media site. Try again dumbo. -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 03:49:49 -0700, Mike
wrote: On Aug 16, 10:27 pm, wrote: http://www.archive.org/details/MikeL...sForFlyFishing (It's a work-safe video with sound) I'll reserve comment, other than "it should speak for itself," R ...on second thought...one comment: "Maybe 'Shooting Heads - the Plastic Worm of Fly Fishing Lines' will be next in the series..." That link is not from my group, or even remotely connected with it. It is the result of your stupidity, and inability to operate a simple interface on a media site. Try again dumbo. OK, just to be totally fair, I did. And guess what? Not only is that video reachable from your little group, it was _you_ who posted the link. I didn't dig around the first time, and simply thought that you were member "Mike Connor" and the other member, "Mike," was not only a different member, but the (self-promoting) "Mike Lindsey" in the video, since the post was from "Mike," not "Mike Connor." But it turns out that you are both "Mike Connor" AND "Mike." Again, it should speak for itself: (What you see on the "short list", showing posted by member "Mike," rather than member "Mike Connor," on Aug 3.) "Some of the really top books available for free here, ( which I found out while looking for something else, and after spending three weeks typing some books into my computer! Dohhhhhhh!). http://www.archive.org/search.php?qu...ies%2C%20Artif... (sic) Search also on "fishing". First class scans, and various options, also the ful text as text!" However, when you go to the "full view," you see a signature added: "TL MC" and when one clicks on the link to "fly fishing" on the page _you_ posted, one goes to: http://www.archive.org/search.php?qu...y%20fishing%22 and there, the direct link I posted is (at least currently) the first "really top book" I also found it interesting that listed directly on the link you posted is at least one "really top book" you dismissed as nonsense when I referred to it some years back as evidence you, yet again, were not the last word on all things fishing. Try again dumbo, R |
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On Aug 17, 3:43 pm, wrote:
Try again dumbo, R Well dumbo, when one posts a link to a media site which refers to books, one assumes that the people who will use such a link will have the sense to enter the media type in the search box. Of course, dumbos donīt possess the required sense to do this. http://www.archive.org/search.php?qu...iatype%3Atexts What you posted years ago, was largely the same rubbish you keep posting today, so I donīt bother even reading it usually. Probably not many other people here do either. You post more off topic crap than anybody else. -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en |
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On Aug 17, 3:43 am, Mike wrote:
On Aug 16, 7:49 pm, BJ Conner wrote: All he's got to do is threaten to post a note about his problems onhttp://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en the most widely read, most authorative fly fishing site in the world. Sage will send him two or three new reels rather than challenge the power behind that web site. Hey dumbo, that is a discussion group, not a website. It has only been on line for a month or so, is mainly concerned, to date, with a specific type of fly- fishing, and I donīt want dumbos on there anyway, they merely waste other peopleīs time. The quite simple rules, as stated on the home page, would preclude many on ROFF using it in any case. Have you ever managed to post a single message, here or anywhere else, which was not full of mistakes? Quite apart from extremely silly and gratuitous insults, mostly connected with matters about which you are obviously woefully ignorant. Before one leaps aboard various bandwagons, one should first ascertain whether any of the occupants can play, as otherwise one merely contributes to the general dissonance. Trumpeters are especially prone to this. -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en "Before one leaps aboard various bandwagons, one should first ascertain whether any of the occupants can play, as otherwise one merely contributes to the general dissonance. " Been on the bandwagon a long time, didn't jump on this week. It is getting more and more crowded. If you want to fix the cause of the "general dissonance" find a mirror. |
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On Aug 17, 3:55 pm, BJ Conner wrote:
me, didn't jump on this week. It is getting more and more crowded. If you want to fix the cause of the "general dissonance" find a mirror. You are looking in too many mirrors dumbo., and being blinded by the smoke. There are about four of you on the bandwagon at present, nobody else cares. Why donīt you post something about fishing? -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en |
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On Aug 17, 9:59 am, Mike wrote:
On Aug 17, 3:55 pm, BJ Conner wrote: me, didn't jump on this week. It is getting more and more crowded. If you want to fix the cause of the "general dissonance" find a mirror. You are looking in too many mirrors dumbo., and being blinded by the smoke. There are about four of you on the bandwagon at present, nobody else cares. Why donīt you post something about fishing? -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en Not to switch the subject back to the subject. Bill emailed I sent the reel in this morning....now I'm stuck with a chinese 1494 medalist until I get it back... could be worse I guess. I have a question about these are the RC spools interchangeable? can I put a 1594 spool on a 1494?....not that I've ever really even seen my backing although I'm sure that it's still there. Brian |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 06:53:29 -0700, Mike
wrote: On Aug 17, 3:43 pm, wrote: Try again dumbo, R Well dumbo, when one posts a link to a media site which refers to books, one assumes that the people who will use such a link will have the sense to enter the media type in the search box. Of course, dumbos donīt possess the required sense to do this. http://www.archive.org/search.php?qu...iatype%3Atexts What you posted years ago, was largely the same rubbish you keep posting today, so I donīt bother even reading it usually. Probably not many other people here do either. You post more off topic crap than anybody else. Yet,you find time to not only self-servingly snip, but reply with hundreds of lines.... snicker _and_ BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!, R |
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On Aug 17, 6:59 am, Mike wrote:
On Aug 17, 3:55 pm, BJ Conner wrote: me, didn't jump on this week. It is getting more and more crowded. If you want to fix the cause of the "general dissonance" find a mirror. You are looking in too many mirrors dumbo., and being blinded by the smoke. There are about four of you on the bandwagon at present, nobody else cares. Why donīt you post something about fishing? -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en "Why donīt you post something about fishing?" Why don't you post something about humility? |
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On Aug 17, 3:53 pm, Mike wrote:
On Aug 17, 3:43 pm, wrote: Oh, and furthermore dumbo, the signature under any particular post on the group, depends largely on the method used to post it. I use several machines, several mail accounts, and direct web access, and I have different signatures in these accounts. Now, how does all this crap help the guy with the rusty reel? If you want to play silly games, then at least have the decency to do it in one of your "OT" threads, so that people know to ignore it. -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en |
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On Aug 17, 4:07 pm, wrote:
Yet,you find time to not only self-servingly snip, but reply with hundreds of lines.... snicker _and_ BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!, R I snip to save wasting bandwidth, it was once considered polite to do so on Usenet. You could save a lot of wasted bandwidth by not posting at all. I wont reply to you again, because that too is a total waste of time and bandwidth. MC |
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On Aug 17, 4:08 pm, BJ Conner wrote:
"Why donīt you post something about fishing?" Why don't you post something about humility? Because itīs off topic dumbo, and I am only interested in fishing. MC |
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On Aug 17, 4:05 pm, wrote:
On Aug 17, 9:59 am, Mike wrote: On Aug 17, 3:55 pm, BJ Conner wrote: me, didn't jump on this week. It is getting more and more crowded. If you want to fix the cause of the "general dissonance" find a mirror. You are looking in too many mirrors dumbo., and being blinded by the smoke. There are about four of you on the bandwagon at present, nobody else cares. Why donīt you post something about fishing? -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en Not to switch the subject back to the subject. Bill emailed I sent the reel in this morning....now I'm stuck with a chinese 1494 medalist until I get it back... could be worse I guess. I have a question about these are the RC spools interchangeable? can I put a 1594 spool on a 1494?....not that I've ever really even seen my backing although I'm sure that it's still there. Brian I donīt know the reel in question, but this might help you; http://www.hunting-fishing-gear.com/...splay/438.html http://www.kiene.com/articles/pflueg...istflyreel.htm http://flyreelsonline.hypermart.net/...rHistoryII.htm http://www.flyanglersonline.com/feat...s/part287.html http://www.cabelas.com/link-12/produ...4311109a.shtml -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en |
New Sage reel problem.
Mike wrote:
BJ Conner wrote: didn't jump on this week. It is getting more and more crowded. If you want to fix the cause of the "general dissonance" find a mirror. You are looking in too many mirrors dumbo., and being blinded by the smoke. There are about four of you on the bandwagon at present, nobody else cares. No Mike, your periodic bouts of manic posting where you offer authoritative and pompous advice on every subject under the sun, many of which you know nothing about, and your sneering "dumbo" dismissals of anyone who would dare disagree with your proclamations has earned you a very full bandwagon of folks who consider you a laughingstock. A whole 'Clave of folks even had "dumbo" T-shirts made up to mock your pretentious preening on roff. Quite an accomplishment for you Mike, lots of people half a world away laughing at you. -- Ken Fortenberry |
New Sage reel problem.
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New Sage reel problem.
On Aug 17, 7:05 am, wrote:
On Aug 17, 9:59 am, Mike wrote: On Aug 17, 3:55 pm, BJ Conner wrote: me, didn't jump on this week. It is getting more and more crowded. If you want to fix the cause of the "general dissonance" find a mirror. You are looking in too many mirrors dumbo., and being blinded by the smoke. There are about four of you on the bandwagon at present, nobody else cares. Why donīt you post something about fishing? -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en Not to switch the subject back to the subject. Bill emailed I sent the reel in this morning....now I'm stuck with a chinese 1494 medalist until I get it back... could be worse I guess. I have a question about these are the RC spools interchangeable? can I put a 1594 spool on a 1494?....not that I've ever really even seen my backing although I'm sure that it's still there. Brian- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You can on a 1498. I have a 1498 I bought in 1963. A couple of years ago I bought a 1598 wiht the RC spools. The spools interchanged with 63 model. The two spools with the old reel were a little different, one had a bushing that had to be put on the shaft before the spool. The other spool had the bushing attached to the spool. A pain to keep from loosing that little bushing. I kept it tied to the reel with a twist- tie. The Chinese made Medalist were real a real POS. Goodwill got mine not long after I bought it. The old 1498 is on the shelf, where it will remain.. Compaired to the Trion it's like a museum piece. The old one caught it's share of fish and bloodied a few knuckles. |
New Sage reel problem.
On Aug 17, 4:41 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: No Mike, your periodic bouts of manic posting where you offer authoritative and pompous advice on every subject under the sun, many of which you know nothing about, and your sneering "dumbo" dismissals of anyone who would dare disagree with your proclamations has earned you a very full bandwagon of folks who consider you a laughingstock. A whole 'Clave of folks even had "dumbo" T-shirts made up to mock your pretentious preening on roff. Quite an accomplishment for you Mike, lots of people half a world away laughing at you. -- Ken Fortenberry Well dumbo, as long as itīs authoritative and on topic, I donīt see why anybody but a dumbo asshole would take exception to it. I heard about the shirts, but nobody sent me one. Ah well............. Recently I gave away the last of the clave caps and other ROFF stuff I had as well. Just no use for it.............. MC |
New Sage reel problem.
On Aug 17, 7:36 am, Mike wrote:
On Aug 17, 4:05 pm, wrote: On Aug 17, 9:59 am, Mike wrote: On Aug 17, 3:55 pm, BJ Conner wrote: me, didn't jump on this week. It is getting more and more crowded. If you want to fix the cause of the "general dissonance" find a mirror. You are looking in too many mirrors dumbo., and being blinded by the smoke. There are about four of you on the bandwagon at present, nobody else cares. Why donīt you post something about fishing? -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en Not to switch the subject back to the subject. Bill emailed I sent the reel in this morning....now I'm stuck with a chinese 1494 medalist until I get it back... could be worse I guess. I have a question about these are the RC spools interchangeable? can I put a 1594 spool on a 1494?....not that I've ever really even seen my backing although I'm sure that it's still there. Brian I donīt know the reel in question, but this might help you; http://www.hunting-fishing-gear.com/...splay/438.html http://www.kiene.com/articles/pflueg...istflyreel.htm http://flyreelsonline.hypermart.net/...rHistoryII.htm http://www.flyanglersonline.com/feat...s/part287.html http://www.cabelas.com/link-12/produ...4311109a.shtml -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "I donīt know the reel in question ....." A state of knowledge that would have motivated most of us to STFU. |
New Sage reel problem.
On Aug 17, 4:59 pm, BJ Conner wrote:
A state of knowledge that would have motivated most of us to STFU. Indeed? Well dumbo, you donīt seem to know much about anything, and you canīt even spell most of it either, but it does not stop you posting the crap. My last reply to you as well, because you are just a dumbo, and not worthy of a reply anyway, quite apart from the wasted bandwidth. You can also rest assured that the newbies and others are taking note of your silly behaviour, and resolving not to have anything at all to do with you. MC |
New Sage reel problem.
On Aug 17, 10:43 am, BJ Conner wrote:
On Aug 17, 7:05 am, wrote: On Aug 17, 9:59 am, Mike wrote: On Aug 17, 3:55 pm, BJ Conner wrote: me, didn't jump on this week. It is getting more and more crowded. If you want to fix the cause of the "general dissonance" find a mirror. You are looking in too many mirrors dumbo., and being blinded by the smoke. There are about four of you on the bandwagon at present, nobody else cares. Why donīt you post something about fishing? -- Regards and tight lines! Mike Connor http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/ http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en Not to switch the subject back to the subject. Bill emailed I sent the reel in this morning....now I'm stuck with a chinese 1494 medalist until I get it back... could be worse I guess. I have a question about these are the RC spools interchangeable? can I put a 1594 spool on a 1494?....not that I've ever really even seen my backing although I'm sure that it's still there. Brian- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You can on a 1498. I have a 1498 I bought in 1963. A couple of years ago I bought a 1598 wiht the RC spools. The spools interchanged with 63 model. The two spools with the old reel were a little different, one had a bushing that had to be put on the shaft before the spool. The other spool had the bushing attached to the spool. A pain to keep from loosing that little bushing. I kept it tied to the reel with a twist- tie. The Chinese made Medalist were real a real POS. Goodwill got mine not long after I bought it. The old 1498 is on the shelf, where it will remain.. Compaired to the Trion it's like a museum piece. The old one caught it's share of fish and bloodied a few knuckles.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "The Chinese made Medalist were real a real POS" ha! that's what I figured haven't spooled it up yet. It's brand new, got it with new backing, and new dt5f for 25$ can't complain much...having bad luck with reels lately..fishing a 5wt ..fish are small this year.Although the Steelhead come in the fall, I really don't like fishing shoulder to shoulder with guys saying things like "Let's slay these *******s" kinda like watching an execution in a phone booth while stading at a urinal..no fish is worth giving up the solitude....so I'm gonna pass this year. reel holds the line really, only once did a drag come into play... maybe I should look at a usa medalist. Just want something I can rely on really and not worry about..nothing fancy...if anyone has one they want to sell let me know..Or I'll try this one out and see what happens, what for that rust bucket to come back... thanks again, Brian |
New Sage reel problem.
Mike wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: No Mike, your periodic bouts of manic posting where you offer authoritative and pompous advice on every subject under the sun, many of which you know nothing about, and your sneering "dumbo" dismissals of anyone who would dare disagree with your proclamations has earned you a very full bandwagon of folks who consider you a laughingstock. A whole 'Clave of folks even had "dumbo" T-shirts made up to mock your pretentious preening on roff. Quite an accomplishment for you Mike, lots of people half a world away laughing at you. Well dumbo, as long as itīs authoritative and on topic, I donīt see why anybody but a dumbo asshole would take exception to it. You didn't get it the first time, so here it is again snipped to the bare essentials; "you offer authoritative and pompous advice on every subject under the sun, many of which you know nothing about" For example in this thread alone you've expounded on American consumer protection laws and insulted the intelligence of anyone who can Google by posting some marginally related links to Pflueger reels it took you three seconds to cut and paste. I heard about the shirts, but nobody sent me one. Ah well............. Recently I gave away the last of the clave caps and other ROFF stuff I had as well. Just no use for it.............. Yeah, you have no use for roff. You keep saying that. You're only here for the newbies. That makes sense because anybody who knows anything about fly fishing would consider much of what you authoritatively proclaim to be silly twaddle. -- Ken Fortenberry |
New Sage reel problem.
On Aug 17, 5:16 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: much of what you authoritatively proclaim to be silly twaddle. -- Ken Fortenberry Dumbo, look up "authoritative". My last reply to you as well. MC |
New Sage reel problem.
On Aug 17, 8:07 am, Mike wrote:
On Aug 17, 4:59 pm, BJ Conner wrote: A state of knowledge that would have motivated most of us to STFU. Indeed? Well dumbo, you donīt seem to know much about anything, and you canīt even spell most of it either, but it does not stop you posting the crap. My last reply to you as well, because you are just a dumbo, and not worthy of a reply anyway, quite apart from the wasted bandwidth. You can also rest assured that the newbies and others are taking note of your silly behaviour, and resolving not to have anything at all to do with you. MC I have had two Medalist 1498s, one 1598, two 1495-1/2s ( bought as part of a package for a weekend- they went to Goodwill ) and two 1492s. The 1492s are jewels and still used. There a couple of them on eBay right now and I would advise anyone looking for good small reel to check them out. The biggest fish I have caught on the oldest 1498 was a king of about 30-35 lbs. Do you still have that picture of that dead sea-run brown you found on the beach in Denmark? The new chinese reels will work fine for a lot of situations. I have never had a reel fail. Using good equipment adds to esthetic pleasures of fishing. Well designed and engineered equipment is a work of art. Most of the trout I have caught I could have caught with a cane pole. . It's not the money you spend that makes the experience. One of the best fly reels I have is a Zebco. It's made by Abbu in Sweden and I would buy a couple more if I could find them. They are one of the first reels to have a disk drag. I got them 30 years ago. They still work fine. I told janumu what I know. I'll bet he's smart enough to filter what I and others have said and make an intelligent decision. Even if he doesn't aggree with me he's not a dumbo. And BTW I'll bet he knows how to google as well as you. |
New Sage reel problem.
On Aug 17, 11:58 am, BJ Conner wrote:
On Aug 17, 8:07 am, Mike wrote: On Aug 17, 4:59 pm, BJ Conner wrote: A state of knowledge that would have motivated most of us to STFU. Indeed? Well dumbo, you donīt seem to know much about anything, and you canīt even spell most of it either, but it does not stop you posting the crap. My last reply to you as well, because you are just a dumbo, and not worthy of a reply anyway, quite apart from the wasted bandwidth. You can also rest assured that the newbies and others are taking note of your silly behaviour, and resolving not to have anything at all to do with you. MC I have had two Medalist 1498s, one 1598, two 1495-1/2s ( bought as part of a package for a weekend- they went to Goodwill ) and two 1492s. The 1492s are jewels and still used. There a couple of them on eBay right now and I would advise anyone looking for good small reel to check them out. The biggest fish I have caught on the oldest 1498 was a king of about 30-35 lbs. Do you still have that picture of that dead sea-run brown you found on the beach in Denmark? The new chinese reels will work fine for a lot of situations. I have never had a reel fail. Using good equipment adds to esthetic pleasures of fishing. Well designed and engineered equipment is a work of art. Most of the trout I have caught I could have caught with a cane pole. . It's not the money you spend that makes the experience. One of the best fly reels I have is a Zebco. It's made by Abbu in Sweden and I would buy a couple more if I could find them. They are one of the first reels to have a disk drag. I got them 30 years ago. They still work fine. I told janumu what I know. I'll bet he's smart enough to filter what I and others have said and make an intelligent decision. Even if he doesn't aggree with me he's not a dumbo. And BTW I'll bet he knows how to google as well as you. I'm familiar with google... |
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