Do any of you fly fish at night?
 

I was looking for information on trout fishing in Missouri and there
was a post saying the biggest trout were caught after dark. Frankly
I'd never heard of fly fishing after dark. Do any of you do this with
any luck? What flies do you fish in the dark?

It almost sounds like a "fish story" to me :-)

Do any of you fly fish at night?
 

When I asked about fly fishing at night in my previous post, it was in
regards to Brown and Rainbow trout, but after thinking about this for
a bit, I thought that maybe folks do this for warm water fishing too
(bass?). Maybe this (fly fishing at night) is pretty common, but I'd
never heard of it before. It kind of threw me when I came across it.

Do any of you fly fish at night?
 

Full moon, frogs jumping on the water lilies and bass feeding on
mini-poppers or Woolly's on a glass like pond with a cool one waiting in the
cooler.......

Priceless....

Bob S.



"mdk77" wrote in message
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When I asked about fly fishing at night in my previous post, it was in
regards to Brown and Rainbow trout, but after thinking about this for
a bit, I thought that maybe folks do this for warm water fishing too
(bass?). Maybe this (fly fishing at night) is pretty common, but I'd
never heard of it before. It kind of threw me when I came across it.

Do any of you fly fish at night?
 

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:48:10 -0000, mdk77
wrote:

I was looking for information on trout fishing in Missouri and there
was a post saying the biggest trout were caught after dark. Frankly
I'd never heard of fly fishing after dark. Do any of you do this with
any luck? What flies do you fish in the dark?

It almost sounds like a "fish story" to me :-)


But of course.

It requires a certain amount of preperation. Like choosing your
casting lanes carefully and knowing what kind of water you'll be
wading in but it can be rewarding... and at times rather spooky.


g.c.

Do any of you fly fish at night?
 

On Aug 16, 4:48 am, mdk77 wrote:
I was looking for information on trout fishing in Missouri and there
was a post saying the biggest trout were caught after dark. Frankly
I'd never heard of fly fishing after dark. Do any of you do this with
any luck? What flies do you fish in the dark?

It almost sounds like a "fish story" to me :-)

Yes, most of my really big resident browns have been caught at night.
Quite a few while fishing for sea-trout ( Sea run browns) They range
about a lot more at night, and usually feed on larger prey like
minnows, bullheads etc. In the daytime they hole up and are rarely, if
ever, seen. They are more or less exclusively cannibals, and
streamers are usually the best lure for them, but sometimes they will
take larger dry flies and other stuff as well.

Fishing is best on very dark nights. You have to know your spots well,
and be able to cast by hearing and touch. I have never had any big
rainbows at night, but there are not many rainbows where I fish
anyway, and that is probably the reason.

I don´t know anything about bass.

--
Regards and tight lines!

Mike Connor

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en

Do any of you fly fish at night?
 

mdk77 wrote:
I was looking for information on trout fishing in Missouri and there
was a post saying the biggest trout were caught after dark. Frankly
I'd never heard of fly fishing after dark. Do any of you do this with
any luck? What flies do you fish in the dark?

It almost sounds like a "fish story" to me :-)

I have fished at night - conventional and fly fishing. All in all, I
don't care for it because it is tough to deal with tangled lines,
wading, and so forth. But I have had success. I swung muddler minnows
in a small trout stream and gotten 13 and 14 inch fish that do not show
themselves otherwise. I got some big largemouth bass and crappie, and
huge lake trout. It is ideal to be in position before the sun goes
down, so you know where your backcast goes, where the drift is, where
the snags are, and all that. Better to be with a friend than alone, in
case you are prone to the heebie jeebies. And to have a cameraman in
case you want to replicate that famous picture of Joe Humphries landing
his state record fish.

Pete Collin

Do any of you fly fish at night?
 

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:48:10 -0000, mdk77
wrote:

I was looking for information on trout fishing in Missouri and there
was a post saying the biggest trout were caught after dark. Frankly
I'd never heard of fly fishing after dark. Do any of you do this with
any luck? What flies do you fish in the dark?

It almost sounds like a "fish story" to me :-)

Before I became an old fart I used to fish at night. It is, of
course, a little different than daylight fishing (I have a gift for
the obvious). Nymphing with a big white yarn indicator is the best
way to go, but many times there are hatches on (usually caddis where I
normally fish). I use a strike indicator with a dry fly set about 3
feet from the fly. The indicator causes some drag on the surface, so
I don't normally get a distance drift. When I see a splash ahead of
my indicator, I set the hook. These fish are brookies and landlocks.

I fall enough during daylight, so twilight/darkness fishing is no
longer a viable option for me, unless I am in a boat.

If you do go night fishing, buy one of those led head lamps, the kind
where you can adjust the amount of light. I have used one
successfully on the water. We know put it on the dog when we let her
out at night. Great tracking device.

Ask Wayne Knight to tell you the story about our (Wayne, Jeff Miller,
and me) mid-night adventure fishing for biiiiiiig browns in North
Cackalackie. Of course it would have helped if we were all sober and
Wayne would learn how to cast d;o), but it did leave us with a funny
story to tell our grandchildren. "Where's the mouse?" "The mouse is
in the effin tree!"

Just remembered something: A few years ago my local fly shop offered
a jell (about the consistency of lib stick) that would glow in the
dark if subjected to light for a minute or so. It was supposed to be
used with nymphs, but it would be neat to see if it worked on dries.
I bought a small container of it and it still sits somewhere deap in
the bowels of my vest probably never to be seen again. I'll have to
find it and try it next week in Maine.

And something else: When I was a kid, we used to go fishing at night
for bullheads, bass, crappie, and pickeral. I can't remember what we
used, probably bait, but I'll bet that if you tried to fish for
bullheads (catfish) at night with a nymph or bugger that you would be
successful. A big catfish on a flyrod? Gotta be a hoot.

Dave

Do any of you fly fish at night?
 

On Aug 16, 12:54 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:

If you do go night fishing, buy one of those led head lamps, the kind
where you can adjust the amount of light.

Dave

The Led head lamps are good, I like the Petzl tikka,

http://en.petzl.com/petzl/LampesProduits?Produit=555

Very light, gives good light,can be worn on a hat, and has a very long
battery life.

but if you want to use them when fishing for browns at night, it is
best to put a red filter over the lens. Big browns ( and sea-runs)
spook very easily, and shining your light on the water, or anything
like that, must be avoided. Even on very dark nights, you can still
usually see a little bit, once your vision adjusts, and the red filter
ensures that you don´t lose your night vision from the white LED
light if you have to tie knots, change flies etc. When you do this,
even with a red light, point it away from the river!

After catching a large fish in a pool or run, I usually move to the
next, as the disturbance it causes usually scares off any other big
ones in the immediate area, and for landing the fish, you can of
course then use your light.

There may be a couple of big fish in a small pool now and then, but
usually, really big browns are solitary creatures. Here, and in
summer, it is usually best to fish pool tails, as the big fish often
hang around there looking for minnows etc. I suppose that will be
much the same everywhere.

--
Regards and tight lines!

Mike Connor

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en

Do any of you fly fish at night?
 

"mdk77" wrote in message
oups.com...

I was looking for information on trout fishing in Missouri and there
was a post saying the biggest trout were caught after dark. Frankly
I'd never heard of fly fishing after dark. Do any of you do this with
any luck? What flies do you fish in the dark?

Hugh Falkus's books on salmon and sea trout (in
Britain) have detailed descriptions with recommended
flies (e.g. wake flies.)

Night fishing is prohibiited in some US states and
Canadian provinces.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

Do any of you fly fish at night?
 

On Aug 15, 10:24 pm, "BobS" wrote:
Full moon, frogs jumping on the water lilies and bass feeding on
mini-poppers or Woolly's on a glass like pond with a cool one waiting in the
cooler.......

Priceless....

Bob S.

"mdk77" wrote in message

oups.com...

When I asked about fly fishing at night in my previous post, it was in
regards to Brown and Rainbow trout, but after thinking about this for
a bit, I thought that maybe folks do this for warm water fishing too
(bass?). Maybe this (fly fishing at night) is pretty common, but I'd
never heard of it before. It kind of threw me when I came across it.

Wow. I had no idea. Thank you everyone for the replies. I've fished
at night with bait, but never realized flies would work at night. All
of the replies were excellent advice (Peter, I would get the heebie-
jeebies alone, so will have to convince my fishing buddy to give this
a try.......he's a spin fisherman).

Man, this newsgroup is a goldmine of good info for a newbie. Thanks.

Do any of you fly fish at night?
 

Dave LaCourse wrote:

And something else: When I was a kid, we used to go fishing at night
for bullheads, bass, crappie, and pickeral. I can't remember what we
used, probably bait, but I'll bet that if you tried to fish for
bullheads (catfish) at night with a nymph or bugger that you would be
successful. A big catfish on a flyrod? Gotta be a hoot.

Confession time: When I was younger, I fished mostly with bait.
Even after I took up flyfishing, there were a few times at night when I
threaded a nightcrawler on a hook and flipped it out at the end of a
sinking line.

And yes, channel cats do eat nightcrawlers, and they are a lot of
fun on a flyrod. :-)

Now to catch big bass at night, you build a little raft, take a live
mouse, superglue a hook to it, tie it to the raft and push the raft ...

Er, I mean you take a big deer hair bug that pushes a lot of water,
toss it out so it makes a nice splash, and wait as long as you can stand
it ... give it a quick strip, and wait as long as you can stand it, or
until a bass explodes on the fly.


Chuck Vance (and the sound of a bass going ballistic on a
topwater bug at night is something you won't forget)

Do any of you fly fish at night?
 

We all have heard that at night time is when you catch your biggest fish
because the big ones are nocturnal, and from my readings I have come to
the conclusion that it provides the trout with a greater sense of
security but also their entire food chain is also nocturnal. Since the
larger trout need more food so to they will they move to where their
food is located at night. It is widely known that trout have excellent
vision even in total darkness, as stated above they're less afraid and
they know they're not as vulnerable, so they feel free to come out and
go after their food source.

O:p/O:p
Dark summer nights are prime time for hooking a large trout. However, a
full or bright moon lit night may turn them off thinking it is daylight
and will stay in their leers. At the same time if you're fishing in the
moonlight and a front moves in and clouds cover the moon, the trout may
turn on and begin active feeding.

O:p/O:p
Hatches generally start in riffles and tail outs of pools and the
backwater are as good at night as in the day, because their food gets
pulled into those areas.

If you're new at night fishing*, Never go on a stream ... ever ... at
night unless you know that water like the back of your hand,* PERIOD.
If you don’t know the waters I highly recommend you go with a
professional guide that has the night experience and knowledge of the
stream.
O:p/O:p
One key to viable night nymphing techniques is that you can't have a
lot of line out in front of you because you don't have the visibility,
so keep it short. I also use stiffer leader so if and when I hook into
a large trout it isn’t too light because I don’t want it breaking off
and lose that trophy trout. I usually start out simply swinging my fly
downstream until I get comfortable and a bit more confident in my
surroundings. Use big dark flies for the larger trout like big meals.
You won't see it, but you'll know where they are when it lands on the
water from the cast. Just work down and across. It'll give you more
line control and you can cover more water.

O:p/O:p
I usually like to rig my rods at home before I head out. That way I am
not messing around with them in the dark. Saves on the frustration
level.
O:p/O:p
Lastly, I usually carry and use three lights while out on the stream at
night, one on my hat, one attached to my Richardson Chest Fly Box, and a
mini-mag light to assist in finding my way out if required.
O:p/O:p
Good luck lads, and be careful.O:p/O:p


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Do any of you fly fish at night?
 

On Aug 16, 6:54 am, Dave LaCourse wrote:

Of course it would have helped if we were all sober and
Wayne would learn how to cast d;o),

Oh sure, what i should really have done is made sure I put the reel
with the six weight line onto the six weight rod.

What are you complaining about anyway? If I recall, you made the
acquaintance of a nice tree.

Do any of you fly fish at night?
 

On Aug 16, 5:54 am, Dave LaCourse wrote:

A big catfish on a flyrod? Gotta be a hoot.

While casting for bass in my pond, I hooked and landed a 4 to 5 lb
channel cat on a deer hair bug. I have since done this many times.
When you are out of practice with large fish on the light rod, this
will get you back in shape quickly.

cheers

oz, who has also caught them on white bread doughballs -- but only in
the presence of mine grandkids

Do any of you fly fish at night?
 

"mdk77" wrote in message
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I was looking for information on trout fishing in Missouri and there
was a post saying the biggest trout were caught after dark. Frankly
I'd never heard of fly fishing after dark. Do any of you do this with
any luck? What flies do you fish in the dark?

It almost sounds like a "fish story" to me :-)

Well yah,
But you have to use water proof Fire Flies udder wise da water puts out da
fire and da trout can't see them.......... :)

Diddly in da Eastern Sierra's

Do any of you fly fish at night?
 

On Aug 15, 10:48 pm, mdk77 wrote:
I was looking for information on trout fishing in Missouri and there
was a post saying the biggest trout were caught after dark. Frankly
I'd never heard of fly fishing after dark. Do any of you do this with
any luck? What flies do you fish in the dark?

It almost sounds like a "fish story" to me :-)

No fish story. Since it's been in the 90's the past two weeks in
central Indiana I've taken to tossing deer hair bugs into the local
ponds after 10 pm.

There is a mayfly that hatches in Michigan and Wisconsin, usually
around Fathers day and lasting until the fourth of July or so called
the Hexagenia Limbata often referred to the hex or the Giant Michigan
Caddis. That bug hatches at night and many a fisherman have caught
some awfully big trout during the hatch. Streamers and mouse patterns
are also common at night in the area.

Some states like TN, NC, and GA place restrictions on night trout
fishing. Others like MI let it happen. I don't know Missouri's regs
but it's my experience tailwaters controlled by the Army Corps of
Engineers are usually off limits to night fishing even if State law
allows it.

Do any of you fly fish at night?
 

When the temperature is above 90F and less than 105F, I ONLY fish for LM
bass at night.
If the temp is 105F up, I don't fish anywhereg.
John
"mdk77" wrote in message
oups.com...
I was looking for information on trout fishing in Missouri and there
was a post saying the biggest trout were caught after dark. Frankly
I'd never heard of fly fishing after dark. Do any of you do this with
any luck? What flies do you fish in the dark?

It almost sounds like a "fish story" to me :-)

Do any of you fly fish at night?
 

On Aug 16, 2:38 pm, "Don Phillipson"
wrote:

Hugh Falkus's books on salmon and sea trout (in
Britain) have detailed descriptions with recommended
flies (e.g. wake flies.)

Night fishing is prohibiited in some US states and
Canadian provinces.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

The wake lures are very popular for sea-trout fishing, but are not
always successful, and very often large fish will swirl at them
savagely, but not be hooked. One of the more recent developments in
wake lures, is the "Jambo". You can find some info here;

http://www.flyforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=12059

I suppose this would also work for bass, but there are plenty of
poppers which would work equally as well if not better.

These lures also work well in the salt for sea-trout, but I prefer all
black lures for this technique.

Two people informed me that they got some nice bass on this;

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-on...razy_frog.html

and one of them fishes mainly at night. He told me he fished at night
to avoid the crowds, ( not many people fish at night), and he also
catches more and better fish.

I have had a number of species on these and similar lures.

--
Regards and tight lines!

Mike Connor

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en

Do any of you fly fish at night?
 

Wayne Knight wrote:

There is a mayfly that hatches in Michigan and Wisconsin, usually
around Fathers day and lasting until the fourth of July or so called
the Hexagenia Limbata often referred to the hex or the Giant Michigan
Caddis. That bug hatches at night and many a fisherman have caught
some awfully big trout during the hatch.

I would imagine so. After seeing what you tie for them when we met
up with you in the Smokies, I figure it takes a pretty large fish to not
swim away in abject terror when one of those "flies" hits the water. :-)


Chuck Vance (I know they scared the crap out of me just looking
at them)