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Been wanting to get a spinning rod/reel outfit as a backup for when the wind
is just to much for my fly casting abilities. Picked up a Shimano, Stradic 1000FH (2#-6#) at Bass Pro since they had a wee bit of a sale going on. Now I want to get a multi-piece rod that breaks down so each section is under 31" - the size of my carry-on rod/reel case. Orvis has a spinning rod with case ( SI8157-53-65 ) plus a model that comes with two butt sections (fly/spin) that are priced in the $140 to $160 range. St. Croix doesn't appear to have a rod in the mid-price range that will break down that small. Even a 6' two piece rod will be to long (36"). I looked at a Browning 3 piece (which Bass Pro now owns) and just wasn't crazy about the feel as compared to a St. Croix one piece rod they had. Most spinning rods I looked at had a long grip behind the reel seat (not the St. Croix though) making the rod look like a mini two-handed spey rod. For what reason do you need a two hand grip on light gear like this? Felt weird.....and although the rod and reel balanced nicely (right in front of the reel seat), it just did not feel right for some reason. Any recommendations? Thanks, Bob S. |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 23:25:12 -0400, "BobS" wrote:
Been wanting to get a spinning rod/reel outfit as a backup for when the wind is just to much for my fly casting abilities. Picked up a Shimano, Stradic 1000FH (2#-6#) at Bass Pro since they had a wee bit of a sale going on. Now I want to get a multi-piece rod that breaks down so each section is under 31" - the size of my carry-on rod/reel case. Orvis has a spinning rod with case ( SI8157-53-65 ) plus a model that comes with two butt sections (fly/spin) that are priced in the $140 to $160 range. St. Croix doesn't appear to have a rod in the mid-price range that will break down that small. Even a 6' two piece rod will be to long (36"). I looked at a Browning 3 piece (which Bass Pro now owns) and just wasn't crazy about the feel as compared to a St. Croix one piece rod they had. Most spinning rods I looked at had a long grip behind the reel seat (not the St. Croix though) making the rod look like a mini two-handed spey rod. For what reason do you need a two hand grip on light gear like this? Felt weird.....and although the rod and reel balanced nicely (right in front of the reel seat), it just did not feel right for some reason. Any recommendations? Thanks, Bob S. http://www.instantfisherman.net/ /daytripper (And you can pack it on your scooter ;-) |
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On Aug 19, 1:33 am, daytripper wrote:
/daytripper (And you can pack it on your scooter ;-)- Hide quoted text - Oh screw that, he can put this one in his shirt pocket. http://www.fishpen.com/index.html?di...E08C A9DA54AE |
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BobS wrote:
Been wanting to get a spinning rod/reel outfit as a backup for when the wind is just to much for my fly casting abilities. Picked up a Shimano, Stradic 1000FH (2#-6#) at Bass Pro since they had a wee bit of a sale going on. Now I want to get a multi-piece rod that breaks down so each section is under 31" - the size of my carry-on rod/reel case. Orvis has a spinning rod with case ( SI8157-53-65 ) plus a model that comes with two butt sections (fly/spin) that are priced in the $140 to $160 range. St. Croix doesn't appear to have a rod in the mid-price range that will break down that small. Even a 6' two piece rod will be to long (36"). I looked at a Browning 3 piece (which Bass Pro now owns) and just wasn't crazy about the feel as compared to a St. Croix one piece rod they had. Most spinning rods I looked at had a long grip behind the reel seat (not the St. Croix though) making the rod look like a mini two-handed spey rod. For what reason do you need a two hand grip on light gear like this? Felt weird.....and although the rod and reel balanced nicely (right in front of the reel seat), it just did not feel right for some reason. Any recommendations? Thanks, Bob S. You might try Temple Fork Outfitters: http://www.templeforkflyrods.com/conventional/ brians |
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"briansfly" wrote in message news:jmnyi.5152$ze.748@trnddc07... BobS wrote: Been wanting to get a spinning rod/reel outfit as a backup for when the wind is just to much for my fly casting abilities. Picked up a Shimano, Stradic 1000FH (2#-6#) at Bass Pro since they had a wee bit of a sale going on. Now I want to get a multi-piece rod that breaks down so each section is under 31" - the size of my carry-on rod/reel case. Orvis has a spinning rod with case ( SI8157-53-65 ) plus a model that comes with two butt sections (fly/spin) that are priced in the $140 to $160 range. St. Croix doesn't appear to have a rod in the mid-price range that will break down that small. Even a 6' two piece rod will be to long (36"). I looked at a Browning 3 piece (which Bass Pro now owns) and just wasn't crazy about the feel as compared to a St. Croix one piece rod they had. Most spinning rods I looked at had a long grip behind the reel seat (not the St. Croix though) making the rod look like a mini two-handed spey rod. For what reason do you need a two hand grip on light gear like this? Felt weird.....and although the rod and reel balanced nicely (right in front of the reel seat), it just did not feel right for some reason. Any recommendations? Thanks, Bob S. You might try Temple Fork Outfitters: http://www.templeforkflyrods.com/conventional/ brians brians, Outstanding idea! Although I didn't even think of Temple Fork as having spinning rods - they certainly do. There are several choices for the Ultra-Light to Med-Light rods that fit my criteria nicely. My inclination is to go with the TFS663ML (4-10#, 6'6", 3 piece) which "appears" to be a good match with the reel (2-6#) but yet will allow for a little larger reel later perhaps if needed. Thanks for the suggestion, Bob S. |
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"daytripper" wrote in message ... On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 23:25:12 -0400, "BobS" wrote: http://www.instantfisherman.net/ /daytripper (And you can pack it on your scooter ;-) Now, if I only had a scooter........ er.... Thanks.... I think.... well maybe, but than again....perhaps I shall give this one some more thought...(nano-second passes).....that's enough... I do appreciate your weird sense of humor though.....;-) Bob S. |
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BobS typed:
"daytripper" wrote in message ... On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 23:25:12 -0400, "BobS" wrote: http://www.instantfisherman.net/ /daytripper (And you can pack it on your scooter ;-) Now, if I only had a scooter........ er.... Thanks.... I think.... well maybe, but than again....perhaps I shall give this one some more thought...(nano-second passes).....that's enough... I do appreciate your weird sense of humor though.....;-) It's not so much a sense of humor as it is damage caused by that extra 1% of DEET he uses. -- TL, Tim ------------------------- http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
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"Wayne Knight" wrote in message ps.com... On Aug 19, 1:33 am, daytripper wrote: /daytripper (And you can pack it on your scooter ;-)- Hide quoted text - Oh screw that, he can put this one in his shirt pocket. http://www.fishpen.com/index.html?di...E08C A9DA54AE What a concept ! But it's limited to catching fish up to two pounds and breaks easily causing sharp splinters. Must be you have to hang a sign on your hook to tell Charlie Tuna he can't bite this one. Gotta love these marketers.... Bob S. |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:11:44 -0400, "Tim J."
wrote: BobS typed: "daytripper" wrote in message ... On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 23:25:12 -0400, "BobS" wrote: http://www.instantfisherman.net/ /daytripper (And you can pack it on your scooter ;-) Now, if I only had a scooter........ er.... Thanks.... I think.... well maybe, but than again....perhaps I shall give this one some more thought...(nano-second passes).....that's enough... I do appreciate your weird sense of humor though.....;-) It's not so much a sense of humor as it is damage caused by that extra 1% of DEET he uses. I didn't inhale. It. /daytripper (And if elected, I refuse to serve. You. ;-) |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:05:25 -0400, "BobS" wrote:
"briansfly" wrote in message news:jmnyi.5152$ze.748@trnddc07... BobS wrote: Been wanting to get a spinning rod/reel outfit as a backup for when the wind is just to much for my fly casting abilities. Picked up a Shimano, Stradic 1000FH (2#-6#) at Bass Pro since they had a wee bit of a sale going on. Now I want to get a multi-piece rod that breaks down so each section is under 31" - the size of my carry-on rod/reel case. Orvis has a spinning rod with case ( SI8157-53-65 ) plus a model that comes with two butt sections (fly/spin) that are priced in the $140 to $160 range. St. Croix doesn't appear to have a rod in the mid-price range that will break down that small. Even a 6' two piece rod will be to long (36"). I looked at a Browning 3 piece (which Bass Pro now owns) and just wasn't crazy about the feel as compared to a St. Croix one piece rod they had. Most spinning rods I looked at had a long grip behind the reel seat (not the St. Croix though) making the rod look like a mini two-handed spey rod. For what reason do you need a two hand grip on light gear like this? Felt weird.....and although the rod and reel balanced nicely (right in front of the reel seat), it just did not feel right for some reason. Any recommendations? Thanks, Bob S. You might try Temple Fork Outfitters: http://www.templeforkflyrods.com/conventional/ brians brians, Outstanding idea! Although I didn't even think of Temple Fork as having spinning rods - they certainly do. There are several choices for the Ultra-Light to Med-Light rods that fit my criteria nicely. My inclination is to go with the TFS663ML (4-10#, 6'6", 3 piece) which "appears" to be a good match with the reel (2-6#) but yet will allow for a little larger reel later perhaps if needed. Thanks for the suggestion, Bob S. I can't remember who was asking about rod building, but a look around for one the post-WW2 Japanese bamboo combo rods might be an idea. They weren't particularly good rods and hardware and wrapping was usually (but not always) pretty garish crap, but they are often fishable (blanks) and often available for well under $100USD - yeah, some "antique" dealers try to hawk them for more because "that's a BAMBOO!!!! fly rod!!!" but I'd not pay more than $50 or so for one in very good condition. Redo with some decent HW and wrapping, and they often make an OK travel "beater-'boo," so to speak. And a quick history lesson on these...first and foremost, NONE are valuable, particularly good, or worth more than about $100, tops. You often see them in sectioned boxes with a POS (no, not a "KPOS," a true POS - think of a poorly made 50-plus year old $15 Martin) fly reel and sometimes an equally-magnificent spinning reel, some flies - well, shed feathers tyed to a catfish hook with sewing thread, line - the left-over sewing thread, lures - well, more shed feathers and a hook glued to a painted stick, etc., and surprisingly (or not...) often, all but unused. They were mostly made as another way to separate armed forces folks from their script during the occupation, to take advantage of the FFing trend/"boom" of the period (hint, hint...). No established FFing equipment dealers, AFAIK, ever sold them. Some are over-priced at "free." Folks with the slightest bit of experience can spot most of them with only a mere glance at a single section from 50 feet away as they are most often finished with what looks like paperclips quasi-twisted into snakes and ferrules and a reel seat that looks as if it were made out of a beer can by a gangsta pimp wannabe (_BRIGHT_ chrome everything and day-glo wraps) with a ball peen hammer and a pair of Kleins...I've seen guides on these things I'd not run a decent line through _once_. OTOH, I've seen and handled quite a few in which the blank would make a usable-enough fishing tool, and I've redone a couple as a lark that once, um, "de-crapped," would surprise quite a few folks. I've also seen some that had fair-ish hardware and less-garish wrapping that were little more than tomato stakes. If such interests you, I'd advise buying based on the blank alone, only buying what you can see, hold, and assemble - IOW, no eBay'ing on these, and if the blank has the slightest damage or if the strip glue even looks slightly iffy, I'd pass. TC, R |
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BobS wrote:
Been wanting to get a spinning rod/reel outfit as a backup for when the wind is just to much for my fly casting abilities. Any recommendations? Thanks, Bob S. Binoculars and a bird book. Russell That probably doesn't help. |
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On Aug 21, 5:42 pm, "Russell D." wrote:
BobS wrote: Been wanting to get a spinning rod/reel outfit as a backup for when the wind is just to much for my fly casting abilities. Any recommendations? Thanks, Bob S. Binoculars and a bird book. Russell That probably doesn't help. I bought a very good pair of binocs and I already had the good bird book. My casting skills haven't improved. What next? JF |
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"Russell D." wrote in message ... BobS wrote: Been wanting to get a spinning rod/reel outfit as a backup for when the wind is just to much for my fly casting abilities. Any recommendations? Thanks, Bob S. Binoculars and a bird book. Russell That probably doesn't help. While we were in Alaska we did that - sans the book though cause there was really only one bird worth watching, the bald eagle. One of our friends has an interesting story to tell about one of his fishing trips to the Russian river. He had a nice steelhead on and it was about 20' from him when out of the corner of his eye, he see's an eagle with about a 6' wingspan heading his way. Eagle made a steep dive from a nearby nest and had it's sights set on that steelhead. He asks - "So what do you do?". Answer - Cut the line - now! Once that eagle leveled off inches above the water, he said it looked like a B-52 with it's landing gear down. That eagle snatched the steelhead, and was headed up - quickly and you only have a few seconds to act. It's either cut the line or maybe loose the rig - depending on who's the fastest... Bob S. |
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"JOF" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 21, 5:42 pm, "Russell D." wrote: BobS wrote: Been wanting to get a spinning rod/reel outfit as a backup for when the wind is just to much for my fly casting abilities. Any recommendations? Thanks, Bob S. Binoculars and a bird book. Russell That probably doesn't help. I bought a very good pair of binocs and I already had the good bird book. My casting skills haven't improved. What next? JF Try turning the binoculars around to make it look like you're casting further. ;-) -tom |
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On Aug 19, 1:33 am, daytripper wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 23:25:12 -0400, "BobS" wrote: Been wanting to get a spinning rod/reel outfit as a backup for when the wind is just to much for my fly casting abilities. Picked up a Shimano, Stradic 1000FH (2#-6#) at Bass Pro since they had a wee bit of a sale going on. Now I want to get a multi-piece rod that breaks down so each section is under 31" - the size of my carry-on rod/reel case. Orvis has a spinning rod with case ( SI8157-53-65 ) plus a model that comes with two butt sections (fly/spin) that are priced in the $140 to $160 range. St. Croix doesn't appear to have a rod in the mid-price range that will break down that small. Even a 6' two piece rod will be to long (36"). I looked at a Browning 3 piece (which Bass Pro now owns) and just wasn't crazy about the feel as compared to a St. Croix one piece rod they had. Most spinning rods I looked at had a long grip behind the reel seat (not the St. Croix though) making the rod look like a mini two-handed spey rod. For what reason do you need a two hand grip on light gear like this? Felt weird.....and although the rod and reel balanced nicely (right in front of the reel seat), it just did not feel right for some reason. Any recommendations? Thanks, Bob S. http://www.instantfisherman.net/ /daytripper (And you can pack it on your scooter ;-)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Now does the instant fisherman launch a lure from your stomach? mind blowing concept if it does. I think a headband with a fishing pole on it would be nice too, with a launch button. That way you can sight fish and propel instantly..that idea is up for grabs, all yours. Janus |
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One of the my funniest experiences while fly-fishing was years ago on the
Trinity river. We were fishing for steelhead, but caught nothing all day, not even a hint of a bite. My friend, just as a joke took out his backup rig which was a "Pocket Fisherman" put on a single salmon egg, and managed to hook and land a 6 pounder. Picture of the "Pocket Fisherman" http://dantat.typepad.com/dantat/ima..._fisherman.jpg -tom |
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:48:23 -0700, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote: "JOF" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 21, 5:42 pm, "Russell D." wrote: BobS wrote: Been wanting to get a spinning rod/reel outfit as a backup for when the wind is just to much for my fly casting abilities. Any recommendations? Thanks, Bob S. Binoculars and a bird book. Russell That probably doesn't help. I bought a very good pair of binocs and I already had the good bird book. My casting skills haven't improved. What next? JF Try turning the binoculars around to make it look like you're casting further. ;-) -tom But the knots wouldn't disappear. JF |
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JOF wrote:
On Aug 21, 5:42 pm, "Russell D." wrote: BobS wrote: Been wanting to get a spinning rod/reel outfit as a backup for when the wind is just to much for my fly casting abilities. Any recommendations? Thanks, Bob S. Binoculars and a bird book. Russell That probably doesn't help. I bought a very good pair of binocs and I already had the good bird book. My casting skills haven't improved. What next? JF Yeah, I should have added a smiley. :-) That was just my poor attempt at expressing that I dislike spin/bait fishing so much that if it gets to windy to fly fish it is time to do something else. Of course, YMMV. Russell |
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