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Looking for a slower 5wt.
I'm looking for a medium/slow 5wt. Have a 2pc 8' 6" St. Croix Premier
now and it doesn't fit my casting style that well always feel rushed. I'm going to check some out and wanted to get some suggestions on what to look for. I don't have that big of a budget ($200 or less) but figured I could save some time if I tried rods that fit into the slower side of action. I have cast a superfine and that was perfect for me more relaxed, but those seem hard to find and the "trout bum" series is out of my range. If trades weren't as complicated I would trade this premier to someone that had something along the lines of that action... Any help appreciated, Thanks, Brian |
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On 5 Sep, 01:03, wrote:
I'm looking for a medium/slow 5wt. Have a 2pc 8' 6" St. Croix Premier now and it doesn't fit my casting style that well always feel rushed. Any help appreciated, Thanks, Brian You can slow the rod down quite appreciably by putting a heavier line on it. In this case, probably half a #6, or even half a #7. This is worth trying before you spend money on another rod. This is because rod action is also dependent on the loading. Slow rods in the lower price brackets are getting harder and harder to find. This is a reflection of the general tendency towards faster rods. Also, try the drifting mentioned elsewhere. This gives you more time when casting. TL MC |
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On 5 Sep, 01:28, Mike wrote:
On 5 Sep, 01:03, wrote: I'm looking for a medium/slow 5wt. Have a 2pc 8' 6" St. Croix Premier now and it doesn't fit my casting style that well always feel rushed. Any help appreciated, Thanks, Brian You can slow the rod down quite appreciably by putting a heavier line on it. In this case, probably half a #6, or even half a #7. This is worth trying before you spend money on another rod. This is because rod action is also dependent on the loading. Slow rods in the lower price brackets are getting harder and harder to find. This is a reflection of the general tendency towards faster rods. Also, try the drifting mentioned elsewhere. This gives you more time when casting. TL MC Something else you might like to consider, is the following phenomenon. Many people always cast about the same length of line, the length they feel most comfortable with. Rather than extend, or even shorten line, they move position. This is not "wrong" as such, but very limiting. It may also scare fish under many circumstances. If you aerialise a little more line, then you automatically slow down the rod, and of course the cast itself. In order to train this a little, cast at targets on your lawn, which are set at different distances. Per definition, and assuming correct rating, and a reasonable caster, any given rod will cast thirty feet of the rated line best. This is of course not always the case. For some casters it will cast best at forty feet, or even more. Make sure you try casting at different ranges before you finally decide a rod does not suit you, and overline it if necessary to make it more comfortable at shorter ranges. On a #5 weight line, with ~ 4.66r grains per foot, The ideal length and weight is thirty feet of line at 140 grains. The ideal weight remains the same, regardless of the length of line. ( Of course all rods will cast a lot more than their ideal rated weight). If you use a piece of #6 weight line at ~5.33r grains per foot, then you have the ideal casting weight outside the rod tip at ~ 26 feet of line. 140 grains /5.33grains per foot = 26.3 feet for a #7 line 6.166 grains per foot. 140 grains/ 6. 166 grains per foot = 22.7 feet. This is often overlooked entirely. Many people move on to faster rods as their casting improves, and this will certainly give more distance, if you can handle them, but many medium rods are more comfortable to fish with. Very soft rods have problems of their own, and are not usually very good tools for many casters. TL MC |
Looking for a slower 5wt.
wrote in message oups.com... I'm looking for a medium/slow 5wt. Have a 2pc 8' 6" St. Croix Premier now and it doesn't fit my casting style that well always feel rushed. I'm going to check some out and wanted to get some suggestions on what to look for. I don't have that big of a budget ($200 or less) but figured I could save some time if I tried rods that fit into the slower side of action. I have cast a superfine and that was perfect for me more relaxed, but those seem hard to find and the "trout bum" series is out of my range. Any help appreciated, I would never fish one of these personally but the Cabela's Three Forks rods or the Temple Fork Finese series of rods are well within your price range and offer slower action and some folks seem to like them. Personally I would either try to stick a few more pennies away or look to the used market for the older whorvis rods, sage LL or sp series or the Winston IM6. Sage has just dropped another rod series and the SLT series will be discounted but not down to $200. |
Looking for a slower 5wt.
"Wayne Knight" wrote in message . .. Personally I would either try to stick a few more pennies away or look to the used market for the older whorvis rods Speaking of which there are two orvis mid flex five weight rods with buy it now price of 109.99 and 129.99 on ebay. |
Looking for a slower 5wt.
Wayne Knight wrote:
wrote: I'm looking for a medium/slow 5wt. Have a 2pc 8' 6" St. Croix Premier now and it doesn't fit my casting style that well always feel rushed. I'm going to check some out and wanted to get some suggestions on what to look for. I don't have that big of a budget ($200 or less) but figured I could save some time if I tried rods that fit into the slower side of action. I have cast a superfine and that was perfect for me more relaxed, but those seem hard to find and the "trout bum" series is out of my range. Any help appreciated, I would never fish one of these personally but the Cabela's Three Forks rods or the Temple Fork Finese series of rods are well within your price range and offer slower action and some folks seem to like them. Personally I would either try to stick a few more pennies away or look to the used market for the older whorvis rods, sage LL or sp series or the Winston IM6. Sage has just dropped another rod series and the SLT series will be discounted but not down to $200. I agree with Wayne but you're not going to find a vintage Sage LL in your price range. Last I looked on eBay they were going for close to $500. In addition to the Cabela's and the TFO in the lower price range you'll want to try the Echo Classic from Tim Rajeff's Echo line: http://www.echoflyfishing.com/echo_small.php I've tried this one in the 5wt and it's a decent rod for $140. It's not a great rod by any means, but for $140 it's decent. -- Ken Fortenberry |
Looking for a slower 5wt.
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:42:27 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: Wayne Knight wrote: wrote: I'm looking for a medium/slow 5wt. Have a 2pc 8' 6" St. Croix Premier now and it doesn't fit my casting style that well always feel rushed. I'm going to check some out and wanted to get some suggestions on what to look for. I don't have that big of a budget ($200 or less) but figured I could save some time if I tried rods that fit into the slower side of action. I have cast a superfine and that was perfect for me more relaxed, but those seem hard to find and the "trout bum" series is out of my range. Any help appreciated, I would never fish one of these personally but the Cabela's Three Forks rods or the Temple Fork Finese series of rods are well within your price range and offer slower action and some folks seem to like them. Personally I would either try to stick a few more pennies away or look to the used market for the older whorvis rods, sage LL or sp series or the Winston IM6. Sage has just dropped another rod series and the SLT series will be discounted but not down to $200. I agree with Wayne but you're not going to find a vintage Sage LL in your price range. Last I looked on eBay they were going for close to $500. In addition to the Cabela's and the TFO in the lower price range you'll want to try the Echo Classic from Tim Rajeff's Echo line: http://www.echoflyfishing.com/echo_small.php I've tried this one in the 5wt and it's a decent rod for $140. It's not a great rod by any means, but for $140 it's decent. For shame, for shame! Neither of you suggested an old fishable 'boo or 'glass. Heck, any number of decent old rods could be had for under $200USD. TC, R |
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wrote in message
... For shame, for shame! Neither of you suggested an old fishable 'boo or 'glass. Heck, any number of decent old rods could be had for under $200USD. Look, I have live with the fact that I essentially told the guy to look at a KPOS or Lefty's break away retirement fund "stick" and compound it with that post will be on some usenet server long after I'm gone. The guy is new at this and without a mentor or a stash of alternative sticks and should stay with what he's comfortable with. |
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On Sep 4, 8:47 pm, "Wayne Knight" wrote:
wrote in message ... For shame, for shame! Neither of you suggested an old fishable 'boo or 'glass. Heck, any number of decent old rods could be had for under $200USD. Look, I have live with the fact that I essentially told the guy to look at a KPOS or Lefty's break away retirement fund "stick" and compound it with that post will be on some usenet server long after I'm gone. The guy is new at this and without a mentor or a stash of alternative sticks and should stay with what he's comfortable with. Thanks for all the replies. I will try overlining and maybe saving up a few more pennies or trying out some of the suggestions. I bought the premier on a whim and I can fish with it, have caught some nice fish with it. But it's not comfortable feels like I'm running down a hill and alot of concentration ocassionally goes into the timing and my accuracy suffers a bit. One thing that has suprised me is that I bought a double taper 5 floating line the other day and I absolutely cannot cast it well. Wide loops very slow line speeds. I heard that a double taper will expose some casting flaws and...well I've got some. THere feels to be no load regarless of arialized line the front taper is long on it, it's one of those factory overruns and I bought it just to try it out. Maybe it's rated wrong. I can cast a wf 5wt 40-45feet tight loops on a good day(but rarely need to)..with this stuff you can drive your car through my loops. When I casted with a slower rod I felt like I had more control over what was happening and it wasn't a reaction thing, like "uh oh gotta move it foward now!!" this was more like "look at that beautiful line unrolling behind me... let me light a cigarette then we'll move it foward"..and it just felt more comfortable...could me my inexperience or it could be my style.... Thanks for the tips, Brian |
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wrote in message ups.com... When I casted with a slower rod I felt like I had more control over what was happening and it wasn't a reaction thing, like "uh oh gotta move it foward now!!" this was more like "look at that beautiful line unrolling behind me... let me light a cigarette then we'll move it foward"..and it just felt more comfortable...could me my inexperience or it could be my style.... That;s called learning. Enjoy |
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On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:47:30 -0400, "Wayne Knight"
wrote: wrote in message .. . For shame, for shame! Neither of you suggested an old fishable 'boo or 'glass. Heck, any number of decent old rods could be had for under $200USD. Look, I have live with the fact that I essentially told the guy to look at a KPOS or Lefty's break away retirement fund "stick" and compound it with that post will be on some usenet server long after I'm gone. The guy is new at this and without a mentor or a stash of alternative sticks and should stay with what he's comfortable with. Um...if he's new to this and has never used the KPOS (either the Korean or Kreh-ean), how can he be comfortable with them? The whole point of the post seemed to be that he didn't have something he was comfortable with and was asking for suggestions. TC, R |
Looking for a slower 5wt.
Wayne Knight typed: wrote in message oups.com... I'm looking for a medium/slow 5wt. Have a 2pc 8' 6" St. Croix Premier now and it doesn't fit my casting style that well always feel rushed. I'm going to check some out and wanted to get some suggestions on what to look for. I don't have that big of a budget ($200 or less) but figured I could save some time if I tried rods that fit into the slower side of action. I have cast a superfine and that was perfect for me more relaxed, but those seem hard to find and the "trout bum" series is out of my range. Any help appreciated, I would never fish one of these personally but the Cabela's Three Forks rods or the Temple Fork Finese series of rods . . . Holy Mother of God! Everyone take cover - the world is coming to an end! -- TL, Tim --------------------------- http://css.sbcma.com/timj/ |
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On 5 Sep, 04:03, wrote:
When I casted with a slower rod I felt like I had more control over what was happening and it wasn't a reaction thing, like "uh oh gotta move it foward now!!" this was more like "look at that beautiful line unrolling behind me... let me light a cigarette then we'll move it foward"..and it just felt more comfortable...could me my inexperience or it could be my style.... Thanks for the tips, Brian Loop formation is a function of the casting stroke, and is independent of the rod in use. It is however somewhat easier to throw wide loops with a soft action rod. The line in use also makes little difference at normal distances. Quite a few people chop a couple of yards off the front taper of many lines ( many lines also have a level tip as well), in order to get more weight outside the tip sooner, and also to aid turnover. It sounds as if you would be better advised to take a casting lesson with a good pro. before you invest any more money. This is not meant as criticism! Merely advice. Buying more or other equipment is definitely not the solution to your stated problems. If you can only produce wide loops with a medium to fast rod, ( regardless of the line ) your stroke is wrong. Using a softer rod will only make this tendency worse. TL MC |
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"Tim J." wrote in message . .. Holy Mother of God! Everyone take cover - the world is coming to an end! F*** You Timmay. |
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By the way, "factory overruns", "Mill ends" and the like, do have
their uses, but use as lines for beginners is not one of them. These lines have been rejected for some reason or other, and unless you know what that reason is, then it is best to avoid them altogether. The mill ends I usually buy, and set up for beginner classes, as matched heads etc, are colour rejects ONLY! The only reason for using these is the massive price advantage, and of course I know how to set them up properly so that they match the rods in use. Other reject lines are rejected for any number of reasons. They may not meet the weight tolerances, the coating may be damaged, the tapers incorrect, etc etc. They are invariably unsuitable for a beginner to learn with. Also, overlining and other similar techniques, like using matched heads etc, will ONLY work if you can cast reasonably well, and from your descriptions you can not yet do so. Cheap lines will cause you problems. There is always a reason why they are cheap. For a complete beginner, wishing to learn by himself, the advice often given here and elsewhere is still the best. Buy the best line you can afford, rated for the rod. TL MC |
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Read this article by Carl Hutchinson, a very very good casting
instructor; http://www.ukswff.co.uk/casting.htm TL MC |
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On Sep 4, 9:30 pm, Mike wrote:
On 5 Sep, 04:03, wrote: When I casted with a slower rod I felt like I had more control over what was happening and it wasn't a reaction thing, like "uh oh gotta move it foward now!!" this was more like "look at that beautiful line unrolling behind me... let me light a cigarette then we'll move it foward"..and it just felt more comfortable...could me my inexperience or it could be my style.... Thanks for the tips, Brian Loop formation is a function of the casting stroke, and is independent of the rod in use. It is however somewhat easier to throw wide loops with a soft action rod. The line in use also makes little difference at normal distances. Quite a few people chop a couple of yards off the front taper of many lines ( many lines also have a level tip as well), in order to get more weight outside the tip sooner, and also to aid turnover. It sounds as if you would be better advised to take a casting lesson with a good pro. before you invest any more money. This is not meant as criticism! Merely advice. Buying more or other equipment is definitely not the solution to your stated problems. If you can only produce wide loops with a medium to fast rod, ( regardless of the line ) your stroke is wrong. Using a softer rod will only make this tendency worse. TL MC No I'm sorry maybe I wasn't clear, I throw tight loops w/med fast or a slower rod.Just don' t like the pace of the faster rods. I only had the wide loops with this facory overrun double taper line. But never a problem with the loops. I'm kinda all by myself with alot of this not alot of flyfishers around. I practice casting about 45 minutes a day out on the grass and have become proficent. I just don't like the feel of a faster rod. I feel more comfortable with a relaxed stroke. I don't want to shoot the fly line through a brick wall. I took a lesson with a guy named Dick Fujita and watching him cast was a lesson in efiiciency and grace. Regardless I just prefer a slower rod. Sorry about the confusion. Brian |
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On 5 Sep, 05:24, wrote:
O Buying more or other equipment is definitely not the solution to your stated problems. If you can only produce wide loops with a medium to fast rod, ( regardless of the line ) your stroke is wrong. Using a softer rod will only make this tendency worse. TL MC No I'm sorry maybe I wasn't clear, I throw tight loops w/med fast or a slower rod.Just don' t like the pace of the faster rods. I only had the wide loops with this facory overrun double taper line. But never a problem with the loops. I'm kinda all by myself with alot of this not alot of flyfishers around. I practice casting about 45 minutes a day out on the grass and have become proficent. I just don't like the feel of a faster rod. I feel more comfortable with a relaxed stroke. I don't want to shoot the fly line through a brick wall. I took a lesson with a guy named Dick Fujita and watching him cast was a lesson in efiiciency and grace. Regardless I just prefer a slower rod. Sorry about the confusion. Brian My apologies, difficult to diagnose things from text. If that is the case, then just overline it to suit the action you require. The DT is probably way off specification. Maybe even wrongly labelled. Sounds like it may be a #4 weight labelled as a #5. Doesn´t hurt to review one´s casting regularly anyway. The most benefit is achieved if a good instructor analyses it, but self analysis also works, although more slowly, and is harder to observe. I try to cast with a good pro at least two or three times a year. Small faults are always creeping in. TL MC |
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On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:37:35 -0400, "Wayne Knight"
wrote: "Wayne Knight" wrote in message ... Personally I would either try to stick a few more pennies away or look to the used market for the older whorvis rods Speaking of which there are two orvis mid flex five weight rods with buy it now price of 109.99 and 129.99 on ebay. Yep, there are a lot of Orvis Clearwaters on sale right now. If you liked the Superfines, you'd probably be happy with the mid flex Clearwaters. A little faster, but not much. http://cgi.ebay.com/Orvis-Clearwater...QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/Orvis-Clearwater...QQcmdZViewItem And don't knock yourself out over not being able to afford the new Trout Bum rods. I've got a couple of friends who are Superfine affectionadoes and they both feel the redesigned Superfine Trout Bum rods suck. g.c. |
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Wayne Knight typed: "Tim J." wrote in message . .. Holy Mother of God! Everyone take cover - the world is coming to an end! F*** You Timmay. Well, that aside, I really like my Orvis Superfine rod. They changed the recipe a few years ago (and raised the price), though, and I have no idea how the newer ones act. Also, I still break out the KPOS 3wt from time to time just to remember how much I like it. -- TL, Tim --------------------------- http://css.sbcma.com/timj/ |
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Wayne Knight wrote:
Look, I have live with the fact that I essentially told the guy to look at a KPOS or Lefty's break away retirement fund "stick" and compound it with that post will be on some usenet server long after I'm gone. Not to pile on or anything, but that was a great suggestion on your part, Wayne. I think the TFO Finesse is a super choice. Heck, if we meet up next year in the GSMNP, I'll even loan you my 4-wt. so you can get a chance to see what a nice rod it is for yourself. I could also bring along a 5-wt. Clearwater I have stashed away in a closet somewhere, if you'd like to try that one. Chuck Vance (and I could take pictures of you casting both of them ... and post the links here ... just for posterity's sake ... ) |
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On Sep 4, 8:34?pm, jeff wrote:
wrote: On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:42:27 GMT, Ken Fortenberry wrote: Wayne Knight wrote: wrote: I'm looking for a medium/slow 5wt. Have a 2pc 8' 6" St. Croix Premier now and it doesn't fit my casting style that well always feel rushed. I'm going to check some out and wanted to get some suggestions on what to look for. I don't have that big of a budget ($200 or less) but figured I could save some time if I tried rods that fit into the slower side of action. I have cast a superfine and that was perfect for me more relaxed, but those seem hard to find and the "trout bum" series is out of my range. Any help appreciated, I would never fish one of these personally but the Cabela's Three Forks rods or the Temple Fork Finese series of rods are well within your price range and offer slower action and some folks seem to like them. Personally I would either try to stick a few more pennies away or look to the used market for the older whorvis rods, sage LL or sp series or the Winston IM6. Sage has just dropped another rod series and the SLT series will be discounted but not down to $200. I agree with Wayne but you're not going to find a vintage Sage LL in your price range. Last I looked on eBay they were going for close to $500. In addition to the Cabela's and the TFO in the lower price range you'll want to try the Echo Classic from Tim Rajeff's Echo line: http://www.echoflyfishing.com/echo_small.php I've tried this one in the 5wt and it's a decent rod for $140. It's not a great rod by any means, but for $140 it's decent. For shame, for shame! Neither of you suggested an old fishable 'boo or 'glass. Heck, any number of decent old rods could be had for under $200USD. TC, R the old loomis gl3 was a soft rod and around 200 bucks as i recall. i had one i liked a lot, but it took flight from the roof of my car one night after a late evening of fishing the blue ridge with wally and an old fella from chicago named joel... vodka was an accomplice as i recall.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Olg fella? Itr wes gin! Joel |
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On Sep 4, 8:34?pm, jeff wrote:
wrote: On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:42:27 GMT, Ken Fortenberry wrote: Wayne Knight wrote: wrote: I'm looking for a medium/slow 5wt. Have a 2pc 8' 6" St. Croix Premier now and it doesn't fit my casting style that well always feel rushed. I'm going to check some out and wanted to get some suggestions on what to look for. I don't have that big of a budget ($200 or less) but figured I could save some time if I tried rods that fit into the slower side of action. I have cast a superfine and that was perfect for me more relaxed, but those seem hard to find and the "trout bum" series is out of my range. Any help appreciated, I would never fish one of these personally but the Cabela's Three Forks rods or the Temple Fork Finese series of rods are well within your price range and offer slower action and some folks seem to like them. Personally I would either try to stick a few more pennies away or look to the used market for the older whorvis rods, sage LL or sp series or the Winston IM6. Sage has just dropped another rod series and the SLT series will be discounted but not down to $200. I agree with Wayne but you're not going to find a vintage Sage LL in your price range. Last I looked on eBay they were going for close to $500. In addition to the Cabela's and the TFO in the lower price range you'll want to try the Echo Classic from Tim Rajeff's Echo line: http://www.echoflyfishing.com/echo_small.php I've tried this one in the 5wt and it's a decent rod for $140. It's not a great rod by any means, but for $140 it's decent. For shame, for shame! Neither of you suggested an old fishable 'boo or 'glass. Heck, any number of decent old rods could be had for under $200USD. TC, R the old loomis gl3 was a soft rod and around 200 bucks as i recall. i had one i liked a lot, but it took flight from the roof of my car one night after a late evening of fishing the blue ridge with wally and an old fella from chicago named joel... vodka was an accomplice as i recall.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Old fella?" It was gin! Joel |
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Joel *DFD* wrote:
the old loomis gl3 was a soft rod and around 200 bucks as i recall. i had one i liked a lot, but it took flight from the roof of my car one night after a late evening of fishing the blue ridge with wally and an old fella from chicago named joel... vodka was an accomplice as i recall.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Old fella?" It was gin! Joel there you are! i've missed you. what's been happening with you? getting out of the city with big shoulders? jeff |
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"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
... (and I could take pictures of you casting both of them ... and post the links here ... just for posterity's sake ... ) You're a wicked and evil man ;) |
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Wayne Knight wrote:
"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message ... (and I could take pictures of you casting both of them ... and post the links here ... just for posterity's sake ... ) You're a wicked and evil man ;) Thank you. :-) So, maybe you'll let me "test-cast" a nice old 'boo instead? ;-) Chuck Vance (I'll even bring some furled leaders) |
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On Sep 5, 9:28?pm, jeff wrote:
Joel *DFD* wrote: the old loomis gl3 was a soft rod and around 200 bucks as i recall. i had one i liked a lot, but it took flight from the roof of my car one night after a late evening of fishing the blue ridge with wally and an old fella from chicago named joel... vodka was an accomplice as i recall.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Old fella?" It was gin! Joel there you are! i've missed you. what's been happening with you? getting out of the city with big shoulders? jeff Just got back from Wyoming. Fished 5 days with Dave PA. We had a great time. Very fine trip. Caught some beautiful big trout. Dave slayed them on the Madison River. I couldn't even make a TR because it's so unbelievable. Fished the Wisconsin river with Wolf and George Clevland about 6 or 7 weeks ago. Wasn't as good as it was when you were there. On Sunday, before I returned home, George and I fished the Praire River for those beautiful Brookies just like you get in North Carolina. We caught lots. Still feeling pretty good for an "old fella" of 70 years and still enjoying a good Martini.. Maybe you'll make the Penns Clave next spring. I'm planning on being there. Hope to see you then. Joel |
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Joel *DFD* wrote:
On Sep 5, 9:28?pm, jeff wrote: Joel *DFD* wrote: the old loomis gl3 was a soft rod and around 200 bucks as i recall. i had one i liked a lot, but it took flight from the roof of my car one night after a late evening of fishing the blue ridge with wally and an old fella from chicago named joel... vodka was an accomplice as i recall.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Old fella?" It was gin! Joel there you are! i've missed you. what's been happening with you? getting out of the city with big shoulders? jeff Just got back from Wyoming. Fished 5 days with Dave PA. We had a great time. Very fine trip. Caught some beautiful big trout. Dave slayed them on the Madison River. I couldn't even make a TR because it's so unbelievable. Fished the Wisconsin river with Wolf and George Clevland about 6 or 7 weeks ago. Wasn't as good as it was when you were there. On Sunday, before I returned home, George and I fished the Praire River for those beautiful Brookies just like you get in North Carolina. We caught lots. Still feeling pretty good for an "old fella" of 70 years and still enjoying a good Martini.. Maybe you'll make the Penns Clave next spring. I'm planning on being there. Hope to see you then. Joel i trust you know the "old fella" was intended as humorous... albeit true. g we all can only hope to reach age 70 and beyond with the same vigor, humor, and intelligence as you (and my friend indian joe). did y'all stay in the park? which section of the madison did you fish? seeing you again is reason enough to visit the bug factory of penns. perhaps you'd be interested in some sal****er foolishness or another nc mountain trout adventure and head down this way sometime? jeff |
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On Sep 9, 4:54 pm, jeff wrote:
Joel *DFD* wrote: On Sep 5, 9:28?pm, jeff wrote: Joel *DFD* wrote: the old loomis gl3 was a soft rod and around 200 bucks as i recall. i had one i liked a lot, but it took flight from the roof of my car one night after a late evening of fishing the blue ridge with wally and an old fella from chicago named joel... vodka was an accomplice as i recall.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Old fella?" It was gin! Joel there you are! i've missed you. what's been happening with you? getting out of the city with big shoulders? jeff Just got back from Wyoming. Fished 5 days with Dave PA. We had a great time. Very fine trip. Caught some beautiful big trout. Dave slayed them on the Madison River. I couldn't even make a TR because it's so unbelievable. Fished the Wisconsin river with Wolf and George Clevland about 6 or 7 weeks ago. Wasn't as good as it was when you were there. On Sunday, before I returned home, George and I fished the Praire River for those beautiful Brookies just like you get in North Carolina. We caught lots. Still feeling pretty good for an "old fella" of 70 years and still enjoying a good Martini.. Maybe you'll make the Penns Clave next spring. I'm planning on being there. Hope to see you then. Joel i trust you know the "old fella" was intended as humorous... albeit true. g we all can only hope to reach age 70 and beyond with the same vigor, humor, and intelligence as you (and my friend indian joe). did y'all stay in the park? which section of the madison did you fish? seeing you again is reason enough to visit the bug factory of penns. perhaps you'd be interested in some sal****er foolishness or another nc mountain trout adventure and head down this way sometime? jeff- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks for the suggestions. Ended up with a Clearwater 8'6" 5wt 2pc. mid-flex. Bought it from a small fly shop in West Virginia..Suits me fine, can feel it bending and no rush on the forward delivery. Orvis is discontinuing them for this year so it was $79 new w 25yr warranty. Leaves me some money to buy a quality dt5. or one of those 3forks 3wts.. Thanks again, Brian http://riffleskiffles.blogspot.com |
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Have you tried a Sage SLT?????? On sale now too,,,,,,,,,a great mediun action rod!!!!!!!!!! That you can also cast the whole line out easily,,,,,,,,,,,,, -- JCFish ------------------------------------------------------------------------ JCFish's Profile: http://www.njflyfishing.com/vBulleti...php?userid=982 View this thread: http://www.njflyfishing.com/vBulleti...ad.php?t=12431 ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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On Sep 10, 9:47 pm, JCFish wrote:
Have you tried a Sage SLT?????? On sale now too,,,,,,,,,a great mediun action rod!!!!!!!!!! That you can also cast the whole line out easily,,,,,,,,,,,,, -- JCFish ------------------------------------------------------------------------ JCFish's Profile:http://www.njflyfishing.com/vBulleti...php?userid=982 View this thread:http://www.njflyfishing.com/vBulleti...ad.php?t=12431 ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----http://www.newsfeeds.comThe #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- I saw them and realized by the time I raised the money for one they would most likely be sold out.So, I decided not to beat myself up over it .But they seemed to be just what I would like. Might regret it but the clearwater will do for now..honestly winter is coming here soon in Cleveland and I have no business buying a new 5wt but I can stare at in the basement for 4months...and give it the occaional wiggling.(the fly rod that is). |
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On Sep 9, 3:54?pm, jeff wrote:
Joel *DFD* wrote: On Sep 5, 9:28?pm, jeff wrote: Joel *DFD* wrote: the old loomis gl3 was a soft rod and around 200 bucks as i recall. i had one i liked a lot, but it took flight from the roof of my car one night after a late evening of fishing the blue ridge with wally and an old fella from chicago named joel... vodka was an accomplice as i recall.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Old fella?" It was gin! Joel there you are! i've missed you. what's been happening with you? getting out of the city with big shoulders? jeff Just got back from Wyoming. Fished 5 days with Dave PA. We had a great time. Very fine trip. Caught some beautiful big trout. Dave slayed them on the Madison River. I couldn't even make a TR because it's so unbelievable. Fished the Wisconsin river with Wolf and George Clevland about 6 or 7 weeks ago. Wasn't as good as it was when you were there. On Sunday, before I returned home, George and I fished the Praire River for those beautiful Brookies just like you get in North Carolina. We caught lots. Still feeling pretty good for an "old fella" of 70 years and still enjoying a good Martini.. Maybe you'll make the Penns Clave next spring. I'm planning on being there. Hope to see you then. Joel i trust you know the "old fella" was intended as humorous... albeit true. g we all can only hope to reach age 70 and beyond with the same vigor, humor, and intelligence as you (and my friend indian joe). I knew it was homor. Thanks for the nice compliment. Keep fishing - that will keep you young!! did y'all stay in the park? We stayed in Cody with intentions of fishing the North Fork of the Shoshone and the lower Clarks Fork of the Yellowstone. Shoshone blown out. Clarks Fork fished good. which section of the madison did you fish? In the park above Seven Mile Bridge. It was the most fantastic day of fishing on the Madison I have ever seen. Dave found a HONEY HOLE. He stood in the same spot and with a heavy nymph and high stick technique managed to hook about 20 Brown Trout landing 17 all monsters 15" to 22". One of his break offs was at least 24". He hooked nothing but Browns. I was about 50 to 75 yards upstream of him and cought about 6 or 7 beautiful Rainbows 12 - 14" on dry flies. No Browns. I thought I was doing pretty good but watching him was totally unbelievable. seeing you again is reason enough to visit the bug factory of penns. If Penns is on for next year come on up. Bring the whole NC gang. perhaps you'd be interested in some sal****er foolishness or another nc mountain trout adventure and head down this way sometime? I liked NC. Can't do the mountain climbing but the lower end of some of those streams was beautiful. "sal****er foolishness" what you mean boy? jeff- - Show quoted text - Joel |
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Joel *DFD* wrote:
"sal****er foolishness" what you mean boy? i've started spending more time on some inshore fishing in the salt and brackish marsh areas. my little bay boat will carry 3... jeff |
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