ROFF Rules Committee Question
 

Need a ruling. I may be the originator of the "Full Reid," but it has
progressed beyond me. I need to find out if my latest endeavor qualifies.

Scene: Vendor (insert famous name here) food and beer stand at a major NFL
stadium. I am a volunteer for my daughters high school band. The band
boosters get money for manning the stand. I'm pouring beer for customers,
some one throws open the heavy, steel security door behind me (I had
complained about this before). The door catches me and slams me into the
wall. To add insult to injury, some one else has thrown absorbent material
on the floor to soak up the water. Unfortunately, the material is designed
to absorb grease. It is a detergent-based material, turning the floor under
my feet into soap suds.
My feet shoot out from under me, the beer flies into the air, along with
the soda next to it. I land on my tailbone and sprain my mid-back. I get a
fun ambulance ride to the local emergency room over cobblestone streets and
then get pumped full of narcotics and muscle relaxers.
Now, I understand there was no fishing involved. Do Dry Land Reids only
count if they are part of a fishing trip? There was, however, beer
involved, even though I had not partaken. Is this a mitigating factor?

--
Frank "Still Tender After All These Years" Reid
Reverse email to reply

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"Frank Reid" moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote in
:

Need a ruling. I may be the originator of the "Full Reid," but
it has progressed beyond me. I need to find out if my latest
endeavor qualifies.


[tale of suds snipped]

Now, I understand there was no fishing involved. Do Dry Land
Reids only
count if they are part of a fishing trip? There was, however,
beer involved, even though I had not partaken. Is this a
mitigating factor?


Ouch!!

You were fishing for tips I reckon...

;-)


Steve

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I can't decide whether the more risk-free strategy is to keep as far
away from you as possible or as close as possible.

Hey, you should try some of my float tube manuevers.
--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

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Frank writes:
much gore and agony snipped
I get a
fun ambulance ride to the local emergency room over cobblestone streets and
then get pumped full of narcotics and muscle relaxers.

My friend, these incidents happen too frequently to simply put off to mere
chance. I think you are purposely pulling these stunts in order to get the
narcotics and muscle relaxants. For God's sake, man, just order the crap over
the internet or hook up with Linbaugh's people!! At this rate, I'm going to
have to drive you to the handicapped access fishing area at Poe Lake during the
clave next year. Of course, that would involve a bumpy ride in the Fabulous
Fishing Car, so pack extra narcotics!
dibs on the yellow ones,
Tom

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Frank Reid wrote:
Need a ruling.

I can't decide whether the more risk-free strategy is to keep as far
away from you as possible or as close as possible.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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"Frank Reid" wrote...
Need a ruling. I may be the originator of the "Full Reid," but it has
progressed beyond me. I need to find out if my latest endeavor qualifies.

Scene: Vendor (insert famous name here) food and beer stand at a major NFL
stadium. I am a volunteer for my daughters high school band. The band
boosters get money for manning the stand. I'm pouring beer for customers,
some one throws open the heavy, steel security door behind me (I had
complained about this before). The door catches me and slams me into the
wall. To add insult to injury, some one else has thrown absorbent material
on the floor to soak up the water. Unfortunately, the material is designed
to absorb grease. It is a detergent-based material, turning the floor under
my feet into soap suds.
My feet shoot out from under me, the beer flies into the air, along with
the soda next to it. I land on my tailbone and sprain my mid-back. I get a
fun ambulance ride to the local emergency room over cobblestone streets and
then get pumped full of narcotics and muscle relaxers.
Now, I understand there was no fishing involved. Do Dry Land Reids only
count if they are part of a fishing trip? There was, however, beer
involved, even though I had not partaken. Is this a mitigating factor?

Ouch! I HATE when that happens. Of course, it never happens to anyone but you.
:)

As far as the rules committee question, you forget the underlying criteria for
all Reid maneuvers: WWFD? Therefore, since Frank did it, it must be a Reid.
--
HTH,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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"Stephen Welsh" wrote in message
...
"Frank Reid" moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote in
:

Need a ruling. I may be the originator of the "Full Reid," but
it has progressed beyond me. I need to find out if my latest
endeavor qualifies.


[tale of suds snipped]

Now, I understand there was no fishing involved. Do Dry Land
Reids only
count if they are part of a fishing trip? There was, however,
beer involved, even though I had not partaken. Is this a
mitigating factor?


Ouch!!

You were fishing for tips I reckon...

Looks to me like he's fishing for sympathy.........and we all know where to
find that.......right? :)

Wolfgang

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"Tim J." wrote in message
news:A4Epb.100091$Tr4.265549@attbi_s03...

Now, I understand there was no fishing involved. Do Dry Land Reids
only
count if they are part of a fishing trip? There was, however, beer
involved, even though I had not partaken. Is this a mitigating factor?

Ouch! I HATE when that happens. Of course, it never happens to anyone but
you.
:)

As far as the rules committee question, you forget the underlying criteria
for
all Reid maneuvers: WWFD? Therefore, since Frank did it, it must be a
Reid.
--

Frank, as winner of last year's First Place Duck Butt (innocuous name for
the Reid Trophy) winner, I have to say, I am wholly persuaded by Tim's
argument. Initially, I was thinking that since it really was something that
had not been entirely self-caused, that this incident might qualify for an
exemption of a Reid. However, I'm not sure that had this incident happened
to anyone else that the result would have been the same. But, my friend,
you were the primary actor in this scene, and as such, the scene unfolded in
a rather predictable manner. A full on Dry Land Reid was the result, and
probably could have been the only result. If exemptions were granted for
causes such as a combination of doors, beers, and soapy mats, then what
precedent would that set? Beer, wet grass and opening tent fly's, for
example, how should those be handled? I'm firmly casting my vote for
classification of a Reid.

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On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:27:20 -0500, "Frank Reid" moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf
wrote:

Need a ruling. I may be the originator of the "Full Reid," but it has
progressed beyond me. I need to find out if my latest endeavor qualifies.

Scene: Vendor (insert famous name here) food and beer stand at a major NFL
stadium. I am a volunteer for my daughters high school band. The band
boosters get money for manning the stand. I'm pouring beer for customers,
some one throws open the heavy, steel security door behind me (I had
complained about this before). The door catches me and slams me into the
wall. To add insult to injury, some one else has thrown absorbent material
on the floor to soak up the water. Unfortunately, the material is designed
to absorb grease. It is a detergent-based material, turning the floor under
my feet into soap suds.
My feet shoot out from under me, the beer flies into the air, along with
the soda next to it. I land on my tailbone and sprain my mid-back. I get a
fun ambulance ride to the local emergency room over cobblestone streets and
then get pumped full of narcotics and muscle relaxers.
Now, I understand there was no fishing involved. Do Dry Land Reids only
count if they are part of a fishing trip? There was, however, beer
involved, even though I had not partaken. Is this a mitigating factor?

Franky, me boyo, you clearly suffered a touch o' the brain damage somewhere
along in life...One of those many falls left its mark for sure....

/daytripper (you got more mitigation than any ten fellows I know;-)

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"Frank Reid" moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote in message
...

Now, I understand there was no fishing involved. Do Dry Land Reids only
count if they are part of a fishing trip? There was, however, beer
involved, even though I had not partaken. Is this a mitigating factor?


My take would be that a full Reid would have to involve some form of
immersion in a body of water.

However I do commend you on another humor laden reminder of your propensity
for finding some manner to cheat death. And I assume you have installed
"handicap" rails in your shower/tub? Otherwise you are going to kill
yourself one day.

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On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:27:20 -0500, "Frank Reid"
moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote:

Need a ruling. I may be the originator of the "Full Reid," but it has
progressed beyond me. I need to find out if my latest endeavor qualifies.

(snip)

I land on my tailbone and sprain my mid-back. I get a
fun ambulance ride.

Sorry. Not a full Reid. Considering that in water, it would have
been (though not elegantly executed) a full Reid, we can award you up
to 7 points of a total of 8; though I'd stop at 6, myself.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

ROFF Rules Committee Question
 

Very few people are aware of the instant "out of body" feeling one gets
when one catches unintentional air.

Have you experienced this?

DWDawg

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Frank Reid wrote:

My feet shoot out from under me, the beer flies into the air, along
with
the soda next to it. I land on my tailbone and sprain my mid-back. I
get a fun ambulance ride to the local emergency room over cobblestone
streets and then get pumped full of narcotics and muscle relaxers.

Dude, I thought I was the only one who did that. Last fishing trip to
Canada (more to follow when I get pics) I got the award for most frequent
and most entertaining dives into the water. The natives there call me
"dances with fish" now.

Good story, sorry bout the pain.

Tim H
who wonders where he can get some of those meds

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Tim Carter wrote:
"Tim J." wrote in message
news:A4Epb.100091$Tr4.265549@attbi_s03...


Now, I understand there was no fishing involved. Do Dry Land Reids

only

count if they are part of a fishing trip? There was, however, beer
involved, even though I had not partaken. Is this a mitigating factor?

Ouch! I HATE when that happens. Of course, it never happens to anyone but

you.

:)

As far as the rules committee question, you forget the underlying criteria

for

all Reid maneuvers: WWFD? Therefore, since Frank did it, it must be a

Reid.

--


Frank, as winner of last year's First Place Duck Butt (innocuous name for
the Reid Trophy) winner, I have to say, I am wholly persuaded by Tim's
argument. Initially, I was thinking that since it really was something that
had not been entirely self-caused, that this incident might qualify for an
exemption of a Reid. However, I'm not sure that had this incident happened
to anyone else that the result would have been the same. But, my friend,
you were the primary actor in this scene, and as such, the scene unfolded in
a rather predictable manner. A full on Dry Land Reid was the result, and
probably could have been the only result. If exemptions were granted for
causes such as a combination of doors, beers, and soapy mats, then what
precedent would that set? Beer, wet grass and opening tent fly's, for
example, how should those be handled? I'm firmly casting my vote for
classification of a Reid.





I concur Tim. As the proud recipient of a "dry" duck butt, I
personally lean towards acknowledging Frank's application as a
Reid..... hell, it's named after him. Although I earned my "butt"
somewhat closer to a stream, in both cases, beer was involved.
That is a decidedly positive mitigating factor for me ;-)

get well Frank....

wally

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haresear notes:
Dude, I thought I was the only one who did that.

Tim, meet Mr. Reid.....he is legendary!

The natives there call me
"dances with fish" now.

Penn's Creek, for you, in 2004!! The natives will call you something similar,
no doubt.
There is stiff competition for the awards at this particular diving meet, I
might warn you.
Tom

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However I do commend you on another humor laden reminder of your
propensity
for finding some manner to cheat death. And I assume you have installed
"handicap" rails in your shower/tub? Otherwise you are going to kill
yourself one day.

I tried to install them on my wife, but she got a bit upset.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

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Looks to me like he's fishing for sympathy.........and we all know where
to
find that.......right? :)

Wolfgang

Naw, don't need it. I got the good drugs and a doctor's 'script for massage
therapy.
--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

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"Frank Reid" moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote in message
...

snip a swandive in the suds

.....son, I'm just awestruck at your talent, and your fantastic luck at still
being able to walk on this planet, never mind limp, crawl or use a wheel
chair. I sort of envy you of all the different drugs you get to take
legally, while I, on the other hand, am stuck with just Vicodan. I may show
up at Penns 2004 just to see if you've improved on your aquatic swan dives,
etc. Get well soon you rascal.

Yer ole man,

Frank the Elder

ROFF Rules Committee Question
 

However I do commend you on another humor laden reminder of your
propensity
for finding some manner to cheat death. And I assume you have installed
"handicap" rails in your shower/tub? Otherwise you are going to kill
yourself one day.

I tried to install them on my wife, but she got a bit upset.

Can I scratch this last reply or blame it on the drugs? She sees it and
no amount of therapy will help (we're talking the "Final Reid" here).
Frank

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Very few people are aware of the instant "out of body" feeling one gets
when one catches unintentional air.

Have you experienced this?

Uh, like when everything slows down as you find yourself falling off a
cliff and you notice that if you kick against the cliff that you just
might miss the rocks at the bottom and land in the water while at the
same time noticing the small trees growing out of the cliff and thinking
that they have been naturally bonsai'd and wondering if you could
collect one and take it home but you really don't have the time and you
look down and check that all the pockets of your vest are zipped before
you hit the water in a modified belly flop. That feeling? No, never
had it. ;-)
Frank

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"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
...
haresear notes:
Dude, I thought I was the only one who did that.

Tim, meet Mr. Reid.....he is legendary!

The natives there call me
"dances with fish" now.

Penn's Creek, for you, in 2004!! The natives will call you something
similar,
no doubt.
There is stiff competition for the awards at this particular diving meet,
I
might warn you.
Tom

Sure, warn *this* guy. Whatever happened to lulling the unknowing into
watery infamy?

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lid wrote in
:

On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:27:20 -0500, "Frank Reid"
moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote:

Need a ruling. I may be the originator of the "Full Reid," but it has
progressed beyond me. I need to find out if my latest endeavor
qualifies.

(snip)

I land on my tailbone and sprain my mid-back. I get a
fun ambulance ride.

Sorry. Not a full Reid. Considering that in water, it would have
been (though not elegantly executed) a full Reid, we can award you up
to 7 points of a total of 8; though I'd stop at 6, myself.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would
rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

Now, you're the bouncer, I chair the rules committee, apparently. Don't
forget that beer was involved, yet beer, in and of itself, was not
responsible for this manouver. This injects just the right amount of irony
to put this in the "Full Reid" column.

With that said, while this is a Full Reid, it is not deserving of any
awards in the category. This isn't your best work, Frank.

Feel better
Scott

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"Scott Seidman" wrote...
lid wrote:

On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:27:20 -0500, "Frank Reid"
moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote:

Need a ruling. I may be the originator of the "Full Reid," but it has
progressed beyond me. I need to find out if my latest endeavor
qualifies.

(snip)

I land on my tailbone and sprain my mid-back. I get a
fun ambulance ride.

Sorry. Not a full Reid. Considering that in water, it would have
been (though not elegantly executed) a full Reid, we can award you up
to 7 points of a total of 8; though I'd stop at 6, myself.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would
rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

Now, you're the bouncer, I chair the rules committee, apparently. Don't
forget that beer was involved, yet beer, in and of itself, was not
responsible for this manouver. This injects just the right amount of irony
to put this in the "Full Reid" column.

Friend, this is why you da man. Want another button? ;-)
--
TL,
Tim (Buttons-Am-Us)
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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"Francis Reid" wrote in message
...
Very few people are aware of the instant "out of body" feeling one gets
when one catches unintentional air.

Have you experienced this?

Uh, like when everything slows down as you find yourself falling off a
cliff and you notice that if you kick against the cliff that you just
might miss the rocks at the bottom and land in the water while at the
same time noticing the small trees growing out of the cliff and thinking
that they have been naturally bonsai'd and wondering if you could
collect one and take it home but you really don't have the time and you
look down and check that all the pockets of your vest are zipped before
you hit the water in a modified belly flop. That feeling? No, never
had it. ;-)

You spend entirely too much time airborne.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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"Tim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
...
haresear notes:
Dude, I thought I was the only one who did that.

Tim, meet Mr. Reid.....he is legendary!

The natives there call me
"dances with fish" now.

Penn's Creek, for you, in 2004!! The natives will call you something
similar,
no doubt.
There is stiff competition for the awards at this particular diving meet,
I
might warn you.
Tom

Sure, warn *this* guy. Whatever happened to lulling the unknowing into
watery infamy?

I know this is after the fact, but if you wade in to your neck, the chances are
pretty good that your waders will fill with water.
--
HTH,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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"Tim J." wrote in message
...

"Tim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
...
haresear notes:
Dude, I thought I was the only one who did that.

Tim, meet Mr. Reid.....he is legendary!

The natives there call me
"dances with fish" now.

Penn's Creek, for you, in 2004!! The natives will call you something
similar,
no doubt.
There is stiff competition for the awards at this particular diving
meet,
I
might warn you.
Tom

Sure, warn *this* guy. Whatever happened to lulling the unknowing
into
watery infamy?

I know this is after the fact, but if you wade in to your neck, the
chances are
pretty good that your waders will fill with water.

Funny, but I actually didn't get any seepage during that process....it was
the Reid before that that earned me the prize...

--
HTH,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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DW Dawg wrote:

Very few people are aware of the instant "out of body" feeling one gets
when one catches unintentional air.

Have you experienced this?

dawg...you sniffing farts or has wally resurrected the cabela's waders??

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"Francis Reid" wrote in message
...
However I do commend you on another humor laden reminder of your
propensity
for finding some manner to cheat death. And I assume you have
installed
"handicap" rails in your shower/tub? Otherwise you are going to kill
yourself one day.

I tried to install them on my wife, but she got a bit upset.

Can I scratch this last reply or blame it on the drugs? She sees it and
no amount of therapy will help (we're talking the "Final Reid" here).
Frank

Sure, but the reply above will always remain as testament to the reply above
that. In fact, this reply will remain in testament to that reply, which
remains.....

--riverman
(you get the idea. Scratch away, but the Heisenberg Unscratchable Principle
will have its ugly little way.)

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While Mr. Frank Ried get the Lifetime Achievement Award for Full Rieds the only
thing in common with the original full Ried is beer although the beer may have
had something to do with the Stadium Ried he was not partaking as in Uncle
Wallys Dry Ried ( there was blood here) or Waynes Indicator Ried (chasing a 2
cent piece of foam costing him hundreds of $) Or Jeff Millers Full Frontal Reid
(his intro to Penns i might add) or Tim Carters Walking Off The Edge Neck Deep
Ried (causing brain fart so he gets out and then just decided to walk accrost
in neck deep water) and then there is the Natty Bumpo Deep Submergence Ried
(loss of equipment to include his hat and brain cells haven't heard from him
since) and then there is the Dave Pa superman Ried (arms straight out in front
all under except his face) i personaly witnessed that one........So i am
thinking that there should be different catorgories of Rieds such as Sporting
Avent Rieds.... Cabin Wall Rieds..... Brain Fart Rieds.....Super Hero
Rieds.....The Equipment Loss Rieds.....Introduction Reids.....and lets not
forget the plain ole I Slipped And Fell on My Ass In The Water Ried.....Thats
all i have to say on the subject !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Handyman Mike
Standing in a river waving a stick

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Tim J. wrote:

You spend entirely too much time airborne.

On the contrary, while he's airborne everything if fine. It's when he
stops being airborne that the problems arise.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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Mike wrote:

While Mr. Frank Ried get the Lifetime Achievement Award for Full Rieds

snip recitation of awe-inspiring Rieds

I am humbled in the presence of such an acrobatic company.

My best so far is the Fish Tackle, in which a salmon makes a run *toward*
the bank, instead of away from you, causing you to swivel around sharply
and land face first on top of the slimy critter. Unfortunately, he
squirted out from under me and broke off :-( Otherwise, it would have been
my very first salmon landed.

Tim H
who landed several after that and is trying to get his scanner to work so
he can post pics...

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"Frank Reid" moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote in
:

Looks to me like he's fishing for sympathy.........and we all
know where
to
find that.......right? :)

Wolfgang

Naw, don't need it. I got the good drugs and a doctor's 'script
for massage therapy.

Queue forms to the right to rub Frank's butt.

;-)

Steve (NOT lining up for _that_ little exercise :)

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"Frank Reid" moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote in
:

However I do commend you on another humor laden reminder of
your
propensity
for finding some manner to cheat death. And I assume you have
installed "handicap" rails in your shower/tub? Otherwise you
are going to kill yourself one day.

I tried to install them on my wife, but she got a bit upset.


*laugh*


Steve

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On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 07:30:04 -0500, Francis Reid
wrote:

However I do commend you on another humor laden reminder of your
propensity
for finding some manner to cheat death. And I assume you have installed
"handicap" rails in your shower/tub? Otherwise you are going to kill
yourself one day.

I tried to install them on my wife, but she got a bit upset.

Can I scratch this last reply or blame it on the drugs? She sees it and
no amount of therapy will help (we're talking the "Final Reid" here).
Frank


Frank, she's been married to you for years. I have trouble imagining
that it would bother her. Any more than the rest.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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Can I scratch this last reply or blame it on the drugs? She sees it and
no amount of therapy will help (we're talking the "Final Reid" here).
Frank
Frank, she's been married to you for years. I have trouble imagining
that it would bother her. Any more than the rest.

Yeh, she even puts up with my puns. Hmmm, wonder if she's really deaf?
--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

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....... I land on my tailbone and sprain my mid-back. I get a
fun ambulance ride to the local emergency room over cobblestone streets and
then get pumped full of narcotics and muscle relaxers.

Frank, my compliments on maintaining your sense of humor despite what
must have been pretty painful.

Hope you're OK.

vince

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You spend entirely too much time airborne.

On the contrary, while he's airborne everything if fine. It's when he
stops being airborne that the problems arise.

That sudden stop at the bottom sucks.
Frank

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Frank, my compliments on maintaining your sense of humor despite what
must have been pretty painful.

Hope you're OK.

vince

Thanks Vince, I'm fine. Nothing I've not dealt with before. I've found
that humor, and its corresponding vocalization, laughing, is akin to a
cats purr. It can do a lot to take care of all kinds of pain. I've
crunched myself in myriad ways, mentally and physically. I just try to
look at them as if they were a series of Red Skelton prat falls and
skits. In that way, they don't discolor the memories of what occurred
before or after.
Frank