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Ken Fortenberry[_2_] September 14th, 2007 07:36 PM

OT Leave Mike Connor Alone
 
This video is making the rounds and my first thought was,
damn, this is His Loony Mikeness' doppelganger captured
on video. This is Connor style hysterical hysteria and
she *means it*. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

--
Ken Fortenberry

Frank Reid[_2_] September 14th, 2007 07:44 PM

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On Sep 14, 1:36 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
This video is making the rounds and my first thought was,
damn, this is His Loony Mikeness' doppelganger captured
on video. This is Connor style hysterical hysteria and
she *means it*. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc


Unfortunately (fortunately?) I had the sound turned down. Talk about
pathetic. Wait 50 years and her great grandchildren will dig this up
and ask about it.

Frank Reid


[email protected] September 14th, 2007 07:56 PM

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On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:36:57 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

This video is making the rounds...


and she *means it*. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc


IAC, um...well, ya see, er...there's just no way to break it to you
gently...that ain't no she...

There ain't no way to help on this one,
R
....and I'm not really sure whether it's good of bad that you couldn't
tell...

Mike[_6_] September 14th, 2007 07:58 PM

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On 14 Sep, 20:44, Frank Reid wrote:


Unfortunately (fortunately?) I had the sound turned down. Talk about
pathetic. Wait 50 years and her great grandchildren will dig this up
and ask about it.

Frank Reid


What a pathetic and disturbing display. Just the sort of thing that a
sick ****bag like Fortenberry would enjoy. I switched it off after the
first sentence.

Makes one wonder how much crap like that the guy watches? How about
it Kenny boy, that how you bolster your poor little ego? Watching
disturbed people suffer in public?

Beneath contempt.

MC



[email protected] September 14th, 2007 08:16 PM

OT Leave Mike Connor Alone
 
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:44:52 -0000, Frank Reid
wrote:

On Sep 14, 1:36 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
This video is making the rounds and my first thought was,
damn, this is His Loony Mikeness' doppelganger captured
on video. This is Connor style hysterical hysteria and
she *means it*. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc


Unfortunately (fortunately?) I had the sound turned down. Talk about
pathetic. Wait 50 years and her great grandchildren will dig this up
and ask about it.


Uh-oh...another "her"...IAC, somehow, I doubt there'll be any
great-grandchildren...well, unless some adoption board is REALLY
asleep...I mean, Madonna is one thing, but two guys who dress like her
is another thing entirely...

TC,
R

Frank Reid


Ken Fortenberry[_2_] September 14th, 2007 08:24 PM

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Mike wrote:
...
How about
it Kenny boy, that how you bolster your poor little ego? Watching
disturbed people suffer in public?


It does nothing to bolster my ego but yeah, I have been
reading your roff posts lately and that is definitely
watching a disturbed person suffering in public. It's
human nature I guess, to slow down and look at the car
wreck.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry[_2_] September 14th, 2007 08:32 PM

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wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
This video is making the rounds...

and she *means it*. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

IAC, um...well, ya see, er...there's just no way to break it to you
gently...that ain't no she...


Yikes !! If I were to mention that's yet another reason to
think of the guy as His Loony Mikeness' doppelganger do you
think I'd be in trouble with the Düsseldorf office of the FBI ?

LOL !!

--
Ken Fortenberry

Mike[_6_] September 14th, 2007 08:44 PM

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On 14 Sep, 21:24, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Mike wrote:
...
How about
it Kenny boy, that how you bolster your poor little ego? Watching
disturbed people suffer in public?


It does nothing to bolster my ego but yeah, I have been
reading your roff posts lately and that is definitely
watching a disturbed person suffering in public. It's
human nature I guess, to slow down and look at the car
wreck.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Well Kenny boy, what do you imagine most people are thinking about you
posting **** like this to ROFF? They think you must be quite mad. No
rational person would be so obsessed with trying to hurt or upset
somebody, or use such a disturbing and unfortunate piece of material
to do it.

The only reason for a totally inadequate little **** like you to do
something like that is to bolster your own ego, and to damage somebody
else. That is quite obvious to everybody.

Apart from finding such material extremely distasteful, and
considering those who watch it for enjoyment to be the worst kind of
voyeuristic perverts, it has absolutely no effect on me. If you were
rational Kenny boy, and not being forced into desperate measures by
your own inadequacy, that would be perfectly clear to you.

You canīt harm me Kenny boy, but you can harm yourself, and you are
doing a sterling job of it.

Your inadequacy forces you to do **** like this. This is also quite
obvious to everybody. In the meantime, you have hurt and insulted so
many people, that they donīt even feel sorry for you. They just wish
you would disappear. You are an embarrassment and a disgrace to
anybody who knows you, and you will never have a friend.

Attacking and denigrating others does not make you look better Kenny
boy, it merely shows everybody what you are. I donīt feel the least
bit sorry for you, indeed I hope you choke on your own venom. Your
hate and your inadequacy will continue to eat at your guts until it
destroys you, and as I already noted elsewhere, it will serve you
right.

MC


Halfordian Golfer September 14th, 2007 09:32 PM

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On Sep 14, 12:58 pm, Mike wrote:
On 14 Sep, 20:44, Frank Reid wrote:



Unfortunately (fortunately?) I had the sound turned down. Talk about
pathetic. Wait 50 years and her great grandchildren will dig this up
and ask about it.


Frank Reid


What a pathetic and disturbing display. Just the sort of thing that a
sick ****bag like Fortenberry would enjoy. I switched it off after the
first sentence.

Makes one wonder how much crap like that the guy watches? How about
it Kenny boy, that how you bolster your poor little ego? Watching
disturbed people suffer in public?

Beneath contempt.

MC


Hi Mike,

I humbly seek any advice you might be able to offer me.

When would a good time to come to London be, if I could find a way to
get off to fish? I wonder about fishing from the beach as much as any
flowing water.

I ask because I am scheduling a class at some time in the future
that's fairly flexible (2-4 months out) so any help would be very much
appreciated.

Would it be just too much of a hassle to be worth it or could it be
something cool? If I recall, it was you that showed me (years ago) how
to tie that baltic sea worm through twisting? Love to chuck some of
those bad boys, though I actually did cast one just the other day for
bass, though it was on one of those 107 degree days that everything
was working, so I opted for a popper.

Thanks very much,

Tim


Ken Fortenberry[_2_] September 14th, 2007 09:49 PM

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Mike wrote:

Well Kenny boy, what do you imagine most people are thinking about you
posting **** like this to ROFF? ...


I would imagine most folks think it funny as hell. Especially
those who've been the target of a His Loony Mikeness tirade
themselves.

You're in a deep, deep hole Mike and you're forgetting the
first law of finding yourself in a deep, deep hole. I will
confess to tossing in a new shovel now and then but you're
the one doing all the digging.

Please, do carry on.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[email protected] September 14th, 2007 09:51 PM

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On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:32:02 -0000, Halfordian Golfer
wrote:


I humbly seek any advice you might be able to offer me.

When would a good time to come to London be, if I could find a way to
get off to fish? I wonder about fishing from the beach as much as any
flowing water.


Oh, the fishing at most of London's beaches is almost exactly like the
fishing at Denver's beaches (some say it's more like Kansas City, but I
disagree), so any time you'd try to fish at one, you can attempt to fish
at the other...

I ask because I am scheduling a class at some time in the future
that's fairly flexible (2-4 months out) so any help would be very much
appreciated.


If it's a geography class, don't wait boy, start today, NOW, get goin'
son

HTH,
R

rw September 14th, 2007 09:53 PM

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Frank Reid wrote:
On Sep 14, 1:36 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

This video is making the rounds and my first thought was,
damn, this is His Loony Mikeness' doppelganger captured
on video. This is Connor style hysterical hysteria and
she *means it*. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc



Unfortunately (fortunately?) I had the sound turned down. Talk about
pathetic. Wait 50 years and her great grandchildren will dig this up
and ask about it.

Frank Reid


I'm pretty sure it was tongue-in-cheek, Frank. And brilliant.

Check this one out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiuRh...watch_response

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Mike[_6_] September 14th, 2007 09:55 PM

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On 14 Sep, 22:32, Halfordian Golfer wrote:
On Sep 14, 12:58 pm, Mike wrote:



On 14 Sep, 20:44, Frank Reid wrote:


Unfortunately (fortunately?) I had the sound turned down. Talk about
pathetic. Wait 50 years and her great grandchildren will dig this up
and ask about it.


Frank Reid


What a pathetic and disturbing display. Just the sort of thing that a
sick ****bag like Fortenberry would enjoy. I switched it off after the
first sentence.


Makes one wonder how much crap like that the guy watches? How about
it Kenny boy, that how you bolster your poor little ego? Watching
disturbed people suffer in public?


Beneath contempt.


MC


Hi Mike,

I humbly seek any advice you might be able to offer me.

When would a good time to come to London be, if I could find a way to
get off to fish? I wonder about fishing from the beach as much as any
flowing water.

I ask because I am scheduling a class at some time in the future
that's fairly flexible (2-4 months out) so any help would be very much
appreciated.

Would it be just too much of a hassle to be worth it or could it be
something cool? If I recall, it was you that showed me (years ago) how
to tie that baltic sea worm through twisting? Love to chuck some of
those bad boys, though I actually did cast one just the other day for
bass, though it was on one of those 107 degree days that everything
was working, so I opted for a popper.

Thanks very much,

Tim


It is a long time since I was last in London Tim, and the fishing in
the area was neither very good, nor what you might be used to. There
are various reservoirs dotted around which one pays to fish on an
hourly or daily basis. These are usually stocked with force fed
rainbows, and occasionally, brown trout. Some so called "coarse"
fishing ( for species other than salmonids), is available, which is
usually traditionally catch and release. This is usually done with
various baits, although there are a few places where one may fly-fish
for Pike, perch etc, it is not done much, and many places will be
private water which you can only get on per invitation.

There is some river fishing, within relatively easy reach of London,
but it is expensive and difficult to come by.

As fishing destination generally, London is a poor choice. If you
wanted to get the flavour of some reasonable fishing in England, then
I would suggest you get a guide like this for a day;

http://www.famousfishing.co.uk/corpo...ly_fishing.htm

http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/index2.htm I know Carl very well
and have fished with him on the Baltic and elsewhere. he is a
brilliant caster and instructor, and I can recommend him without any
reserve. I have no idea what he charges, but if you e-mail
( ) and mention I told you to, he may be
able to give you a good deal.

You will be able to fish some famous rivers, and also learn a lot if
you so wish, from some very skilled people.This however is not
exactly cheap.

Ocean fishing near London is a waste of time. The fish stocks are so
low that you would be unlikely to catch anything anyway.

Those are the only reasonable alternatives really. There may be a
Roffian or two who can give you more and better info for "going it
alone" near London. Mr,McPherson who posted here recently might be
able to help you out, as he is in the general area. If nobody replies,
then try posting the same question on this board;

http://www.flyforums.co.uk/

There are quite a number of people there who will be able and willing
to help you out.

TL
MC

--

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/



Frank Reid[_2_] September 14th, 2007 10:02 PM

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Unfortunately (fortunately?) I had the sound turned down. Talk about
pathetic. Wait 50 years and her great grandchildren will dig this up
and ask about it.


Uh-oh...another "her"...IAC, somehow, I doubt there'll be any
great-grandchildren...well, unless some adoption board is REALLY
asleep...I mean, Madonna is one thing, but two guys who dress like her
is another thing entirely...


Well, I looked at it for 10 seconds with no sound. Now that I see it
with sound, I see its some psychotic hermophrodite. Probably a USC
fan too.
Frank Reid


Frank Reid[_2_] September 14th, 2007 10:09 PM

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Unfortunately (fortunately?) I had the sound turned down. Talk about
pathetic. Wait 50 years and her great grandchildren will dig this up
and ask about it.


Frank Reid


I'm pretty sure it was tongue-in-cheek, Frank. And brilliant.

Check this one out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiuRh...watch_response


Where's the one about leaving Michigan alone.
Frank Reid


[email protected] September 14th, 2007 10:18 PM

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On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:02:53 -0000, Frank Reid
wrote:

Unfortunately (fortunately?) I had the sound turned down. Talk about
pathetic. Wait 50 years and her great grandchildren will dig this up
and ask about it.


Uh-oh...another "her"...IAC, somehow, I doubt there'll be any
great-grandchildren...well, unless some adoption board is REALLY
asleep...I mean, Madonna is one thing, but two guys who dress like her
is another thing entirely...


Well, I looked at it for 10 seconds with no sound. Now that I see it
with sound, I see its some psychotic hermophrodite. Probably a USC
fan too.


Er, Frank..."see it with sound?!"...are you sure you haven't found
something of Asadi's in your drain...or perhaps attempting to do, well,
anything with a heavy, blunt instrument or staring at the sun?
Seriously, the guy has an Adam's apple and needs a shave...how long have
you been in Nebraska?

TC,
R

Mike[_6_] September 14th, 2007 10:19 PM

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On 14 Sep, 22:49, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Mike wrote:

Well Kenny boy, what do you imagine most people are thinking about you
posting **** like this to ROFF? ...


I would imagine most folks think it funny as hell. Especially
those who've been the target of a His Loony Mikeness tirade
themselves.

You're in a deep, deep hole Mike and you're forgetting the
first law of finding yourself in a deep, deep hole. I will
confess to tossing in a new shovel now and then but you're
the one doing all the digging.

Please, do carry on.

--
Ken Fortenberry


I have not attacked anybody here Kenny boy, you are the one doing all
the attacking. Your propaganda is useless. The more **** you post, the
more stupid, obsessed, and inadequate, people think you are. You can
īt convince anybody here, and convincing yourself is an exercise in
futility.

There are no holes here Kenny boy, this is a fishing newsgroup, not a
battlefield. You wouldnīt last five seconds on a battlefield. Your
innate cowardice and inadequacy would control you just as much there
as it does here, but the consequences would doubtless then be
immediate and probably fatal.

You canīt toss anything to anybody. You might be able to convince your
vain, shallow, inadequate, and totally insecure self, that you are a
very clever fellow, but of course you are still just a stupid, nasty,
inadequate little ****, being forced by his nature to continue
flinging **** and insults, in the vain hope that it will do you some
good.

It wont do you any good at all Kenny boy. It does not matter to me
whether you realise that or not, I know it, and everybody else here
knows it. They are sick of you Kenny boy, you will not receive any
succour or assistance, because nobody likes or trusts you. You could
simply stop this nonsense, but you probably wont, your nasty little
twisted and inadequate character wont let you. You feel obliged to
strike out at somebody in order to feel better. You need to feel
superior to others Kenny boy, and the only way you can manage that,
even for a brief time, is to attack and denigrate them.

Makes no difference to me what you do Kenny boy. Nobody else cares
either. It only makes a difference to you.

MC


Ken Fortenberry[_2_] September 14th, 2007 10:28 PM

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Mike wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I would imagine most folks think it funny as hell. Especially
those who've been the target of a His Loony Mikeness tirade
themselves. ...


I have not attacked anybody here Kenny boy, ...


Yeah, you have. You attack anyone who dares to disagree
with His Loony Mikeness. Your posts are full of filthy
invective, insults and name-calling. As a result you've
become something of a laughingstock on roff. That's the
hole you're in Mike, and it's all of you're own doing.

Please, do carry on.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Mike[_6_] September 14th, 2007 10:30 PM

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On 14 Sep, 22:32, Halfordian Golfer wrote:
On Sep 14, 12:58 pm, Mike wrote:



On 14 Sep, 20:44, Frank Reid wrote:


Unfortunately (fortunately?) I had the sound turned down. Talk about
pathetic. Wait 50 years and her great grandchildren will dig this up
and ask about it.


Frank Reid


What a pathetic and disturbing display. Just the sort of thing that a
sick ****bag like Fortenberry would enjoy. I switched it off after the
first sentence.


Makes one wonder how much crap like that the guy watches? How about
it Kenny boy, that how you bolster your poor little ego? Watching
disturbed people suffer in public?


Beneath contempt.


MC


Hi Mike,

I humbly seek any advice you might be able to offer me.

When would a good time to come to London be, if I could find a way to
get off to fish? I wonder about fishing from the beach as much as any
flowing water.

I ask because I am scheduling a class at some time in the future
that's fairly flexible (2-4 months out) so any help would be very much
appreciated.

Would it be just too much of a hassle to be worth it or could it be
something cool? If I recall, it was you that showed me (years ago) how
to tie that baltic sea worm through twisting? Love to chuck some of
those bad boys, though I actually did cast one just the other day for
bass, though it was on one of those 107 degree days that everything
was working, so I opted for a popper.

Thanks very much,

Tim


By the way Tim, on the worm front, you might find this of interest;

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-on...ard_core_.html

A couple of people told me they worked very well for bass as well.

TL
MC



Frank Reid[_2_] September 14th, 2007 10:34 PM

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Er, Frank..."see it with sound?!"...are you sure you haven't found
something of Asadi's in your drain...or perhaps attempting to do, well,
anything with a heavy, blunt instrument or staring at the sun?
Seriously, the guy has an Adam's apple and needs a shave...how long have
you been in Nebraska?


I live in a state where the women look like Larry the Cable Guy, only
bigger. Right now, to "fit in" I'm wearing a black, Nebraska
Cornhusker Hawaiian type shirt, red and black Husker tie all under a
black, camel hair blazer. Basically, I've been assimilated by corn-
borg collective.
Frank "smokin' those corn tassles" Reid


Lazarus Cooke September 14th, 2007 10:37 PM

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In article . com,
Halfordian Golfer wrote:
Hi Halfordian

I'm based in London. Caught my biggest ever grayling on the Itchen a
couple of days ago, an hour away from the centre of London (and I don't
have an automobile - train and bicycle).

As Mike says, it's difficult, but not impossible. It tends to be
expensive, especially as the US economy is going down the tube at the
moment and London is currently the most expensive city in the world.

Peak time for river fishing is May, June. After that I'd go to
Ireland/Scotland/somewhere else.

I don't know about sea or lake fishing.

Lazarus

ps - like mike, if I were thinking of fishing somewhere in Europe,
Londo is about the last place I'd choose to begin.

When would a good time to come to London be, if I could find a way to
get off to fish? I wonder about fishing from the beach as much as any
flowing water.

I ask because I am scheduling a class at some time in the future
that's fairly flexible (2-4 months out) so any help would be very much
appreciated.

Would it be just too much of a hassle to be worth it or could it be
something cool? If I recall, it was you that showed me (years ago) how
to tie that baltic sea worm through twisting? Love to chuck some of
those bad boys, though I actually did cast one just the other day for
bass, though it was on one of those 107 degree days that everything
was working, so I opted for a popper.

Thanks very much,

Tim


Mike[_6_] September 14th, 2007 10:41 PM

OT Leave Mike Connor Alone
 
On 14 Sep, 23:28, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Mike wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I would imagine most folks think it funny as hell. Especially
those who've been the target of a His Loony Mikeness tirade
themselves. ...


I have not attacked anybody here Kenny boy, ...


Yeah, you have. You attack anyone who dares to disagree
with His Loony Mikeness. Your posts are full of filthy
invective, insults and name-calling. As a result you've
become something of a laughingstock on roff. That's the
hole you're in Mike, and it's all of you're own doing.

Please, do carry on.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Not so Kenny Boy, I merely tell the truth. You are a nasty inadequate
little ****, who canīt control himself. Your only recourse in
practically any situation, is to lie, use silly "tactics", insult and
upset people, in the fond belief that it makes you look good. It only
makes you look like a nasty inadequate little ****. The more you do
it, the more you look like a ****, and the more you alienate people.

You being a nasty inadequate little **** has no effect on me any more
Kenny boy. Neither do your silly insults and propaganda. You can only
have an effect on people if they respect you. I donīt respect you at
all any more Kenny boy, I doubt anybody else does either, and so your
nonsense is completely ineffectual, except for making you look like a
stupid inadequate little ****.

Also Kenny boy, you are doing exactly what I said you would do,
because you canīt help yourself. Exactly what a nasty inadequate
little **** does.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

MC


Tom Littleton September 14th, 2007 10:52 PM

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wrote in message
...
Er, Frank..."see it with sound?!"...are you sure you haven't found
something of Asadi's in your drain...or perhaps attempting to do, well,
anything with a heavy, blunt instrument or staring at the sun?


he's been trapped in a camper for days at a time with
the Handyman and I......sort of has the same effect on
a guy.
Tom





Ken Fortenberry[_2_] September 14th, 2007 11:20 PM

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Mike wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Mike wrote:
I have not attacked anybody here Kenny boy, ...

Yeah, you have. You attack anyone who dares to disagree
with His Loony Mikeness. Your posts are full of filthy
invective, insults and name-calling. As a result you've
become something of a laughingstock on roff. That's the
hole you're in Mike, and it's all of you're own doing.


Not so Kenny Boy, I merely tell the truth. ...


LOL !! See ? That right there is what I'm talking about.
You post two days worth of vicious personal attacks and
then want to deny ever having done so. You're a funny
little guy.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Mike[_6_] September 14th, 2007 11:46 PM

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On 15 Sep, 00:20, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Mike wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Mike wrote:
I have not attacked anybody here Kenny boy, ...
Yeah, you have. You attack anyone who dares to disagree
with His Loony Mikeness. Your posts are full of filthy
invective, insults and name-calling. As a result you've
become something of a laughingstock on roff. That's the
hole you're in Mike, and it's all of you're own doing.


Not so Kenny Boy, I merely tell the truth. ...


LOL !! See ? That right there is what I'm talking about.
You post two days worth of vicious personal attacks and
then want to deny ever having done so. You're a funny
little guy.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Nobody here is laughing Kenny boy, they all just think you are a
pathetic asshole, and an inadequate little **** with no self control,
shame, decency, or sense. They donīt care what you write, and they don
īt believe it either. You have absolutely no credibility left Kenny
boy.

Anybody who wishes too, can simply read what I wrote, and what you
wrote. They do not require your twisted interpretation. Another
mistake you constantly make Kenny boy, is assuming that other people
are as inadequate and stupid as you are. You fondly imagine that
people consider you the final arbiter on any number of things Kenny
boy, but that is a delusion resulting from your inadequacy. You NEED
to believe it.

That is why you still continue posting this ****. You NEED to, it is
the only way you have ever found to feel at least briefly superior to
others. That is why you are here at all. You donīt know much about fly-
fishing, and you donīt want to either, you just want to ride roughshod
over others because it makes you feel good for a while. May even be
the reason you started fly-fishing in the first place, because it
seemed a superior thing to do, and you NEED to impress people with
your superiority.

You are wasting your time Kenny boy, nobody here is ever going to let
you ride roughshod over them again. They know what you are, and why
you behave as you do, and the result of that knowledge is that they
have absolutely zero respect for you.

It makes absolutely no difference whatsoever what you post, the only
person you are harming by it is yourself.

As soon as you attack and denigrate others for some reason or other,
in your case because you are a nasty inadequate little **** who needs
to do it in order to bolster your ego, then people start to notice.
This behaviour Kenny boy, starts to lose you respect almost
immediately, and you have been doing it for years. You have no
friends, no self respect, and no respect for anybody else either Kenny
boy, and the moment you have always dreaded is at hand. Everybody
knows it.

They know you are a nasty inadequate little ****, trying desperately
to hide behind useless bluster and insults.

You are absolutely powerless to do anything at all about that Kenny
boy, it is simply the truth.

MC


Ken Fortenberry[_2_] September 15th, 2007 12:07 AM

OT Leave Mike Connor Alone
 
Mike wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Mike wrote:
Not so Kenny Boy, I merely tell the truth. ...

LOL !! See ? That right there is what I'm talking about.
You post two days worth of vicious personal attacks and
then want to deny ever having done so. You're a funny
little guy.


Nobody here is laughing Kenny boy, ...


Yeah, like I told you most people ignore these things after
the first couple of rounds but please, do go right on making
an arse of yourself in public. The rest of roff may have
tuned out by now but your hysterical hysteria is still quite
entertaining to me.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Mike[_6_] September 15th, 2007 12:23 AM

OT Leave Mike Connor Alone
 
On 15 Sep, 01:07, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Mike wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Mike wrote:
Not so Kenny Boy, I merely tell the truth. ...
LOL !! See ? That right there is what I'm talking about.
You post two days worth of vicious personal attacks and
then want to deny ever having done so. You're a funny
little guy.


Nobody here is laughing Kenny boy, ...


Yeah, like I told you most people ignore these things after
the first couple of rounds but please, do go right on making
an arse of yourself in public. The rest of roff may have
tuned out by now but your hysterical hysteria is still quite
entertaining to me.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Wrong again Kenny boy, lots of people are reading this quite avidly,
some are hoping that you will totally self-destruct, those you have
insulted, and hurt, and damaged over the years. Some are hoping you
will simply disappear, and there may even be a couple who still feel
sorry for you.

Nobody except you is labouring under the delusion that I am hysterical
Kenny boy. In point of fact you know it too, but your inadequacy
forces you into believing anything at all to avoid the inevitable.You
started this thread in hopes of once again holding me up to ridicule
Kenny boy, all you have managed to do Kenny boy, is to confirm
everything I have written.

You have screwed yourself Kenny boy, and still you are unable to
stop. Somewhere in your twisted inadequate psyche is the faint hope
that the nasty tactics you could always rely on will somehow turn this
awful situation around for you.

Nothing will turn this around for you Kenny boy, you have laid
yourself bare for all the world to see. No matter what you call
anybody else, no matter how you attempt to confuse or misdirect
people, I have you by the balls, just as I promised you I would.

You are destroyed here Kenny boy, of no further consequence to anybody
at all, and you did it yourself.

MC



[email protected] September 15th, 2007 12:33 AM

OT Leave Mike Connor Alone
 
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:46:35 -0700, Mike
wrote:

On 15 Sep, 00:20, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Mike wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Mike wrote:
I have not attacked anybody here Kenny boy, ...
Yeah, you have. You attack anyone who dares to disagree
with His Loony Mikeness. Your posts are full of filthy
invective, insults and name-calling. As a result you've
become something of a laughingstock on roff. That's the
hole you're in Mike, and it's all of you're own doing.


Not so Kenny Boy, I merely tell the truth. ...


LOL !! See ? That right there is what I'm talking about.
You post two days worth of vicious personal attacks and
then want to deny ever having done so. You're a funny
little guy.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Nobody here is laughing Kenny boy, they all just think you are a
pathetic asshole, and an inadequate little **** with no self control,
shame, decency, or sense. They donīt care what you write, and they don
īt believe it either. You have absolutely no credibility left Kenny
boy.

Anybody who wishes too, can simply read what I wrote, and what you
wrote. They do not require your twisted interpretation. Another
mistake you constantly make Kenny boy, is assuming that other people
are as inadequate and stupid as you are. You fondly imagine that
people consider you the final arbiter on any number of things Kenny
boy, but that is a delusion resulting from your inadequacy. You NEED
to believe it.

That is why you still continue posting this ****. You NEED to, it is
the only way you have ever found to feel at least briefly superior to
others. That is why you are here at all. You donīt know much about fly-
fishing, and you donīt want to either, you just want to ride roughshod
over others because it makes you feel good for a while. May even be
the reason you started fly-fishing in the first place, because it
seemed a superior thing to do, and you NEED to impress people with
your superiority.

You are wasting your time Kenny boy, nobody here is ever going to let
you ride roughshod over them again. They know what you are, and why
you behave as you do, and the result of that knowledge is that they
have absolutely zero respect for you.

It makes absolutely no difference whatsoever what you post, the only
person you are harming by it is yourself.

As soon as you attack and denigrate others for some reason or other,
in your case because you are a nasty inadequate little **** who needs
to do it in order to bolster your ego, then people start to notice.
This behaviour Kenny boy, starts to lose you respect almost
immediately, and you have been doing it for years. You have no
friends, no self respect, and no respect for anybody else either Kenny
boy, and the moment you have always dreaded is at hand. Everybody
knows it.

They know you are a nasty inadequate little ****, trying desperately
to hide behind useless bluster and insults.

You are absolutely powerless to do anything at all about that Kenny
boy, it is simply the truth.

MC


Translation:

MUAHUUM!!! Eric and Kyle won't RESPECT MAH AHTHORITAH!!!

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, you're calling the FBI again,
R

Ken Fortenberry[_2_] September 15th, 2007 12:48 AM

OT Leave Mike Connor Alone
 
Mike wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Mike wrote:
Nobody here is laughing Kenny boy, ...

Yeah, like I told you most people ignore these things after
the first couple of rounds but please, do go right on making
an arse of yourself in public. The rest of roff may have
tuned out by now but your hysterical hysteria is still quite
entertaining to me.


Wrong again Kenny boy, lots of people are reading this quite avidly,
...


I have no way of knowing for sure, but I seriously doubt it.
Hell, I'm not even reading it anymore, just snipping away all
your drivel except the first line and then yanking your chain
once again. I own you, you fool, I control your puppet strings
and I can push your buttons at will. It's no great feat, granted,
but it does make for great entertainment. ;-)

Sneak Preview: OT His Loony Mikeness, German G-Man

How *is* that FBI report coming there Your Loony Mikeness ? LOL !!

--
Ken Fortenberry

salmobytes September 15th, 2007 12:55 AM

OT Leave Mike Connor Alone
 
On Sep 14, 12:58 pm, Mike wrote:

Ever long for the good old days when George G spread so
much joy around?

Ok Mike, for what little it's worth, I announced abandoning
the last Mike/Ken *thread* (that Ken played for all it was worth).
After this I won't comment on *the subject* again. Ever.

But it's worth pointing out (to Mike, one last time) that Ken plays
you like a windup toy: pull the string, watch him wiggle.
"Hey everybody, come look a this...pull the string and away
he goes....it works every time!"

If you did follow my advice (which seems unlikely) and simply
ignored him, this would all go away. Ken's had so much fun
with you he would likely needle you for a week or two.
But once he realizes you'll no longer do what he wants,
he'll give up and go find someone else to exploit.

You make it too easy and too much fun (for him).
I must say I don't have much hope this will ever get fixed.
But it's up to you Mike. Ken Fortenberry will only stop if
you do.

I'm over it. I will never comment (on this subject) again.


Mike[_6_] September 15th, 2007 01:06 AM

OT Leave Mike Connor Alone
 
On 15 Sep, 01:55, salmobytes wrote:
On Sep 14, 12:58 pm, Mike wrote:

Ever long for the good old days when George G spread so
much joy around?

Ok Mike, for what little it's worth, I announced abandoning
the last Mike/Ken *thread* (that Ken played for all it was worth).
After this I won't comment on *the subject* again. Ever.

But it's worth pointing out (to Mike, one last time) that Ken plays
you like a windup toy: pull the string, watch him wiggle.
"Hey everybody, come look a this...pull the string and away
he goes....it works every time!"

If you did follow my advice (which seems unlikely) and simply
ignored him, this would all go away. Ken's had so much fun
with you he would likely needle you for a week or two.
But once he realizes you'll no longer do what he wants,
he'll give up and go find someone else to exploit.

You make it too easy and too much fun (for him).
I must say I don't have much hope this will ever get fixed.
But it's up to you Mike. Ken Fortenberry will only stop if
you do.

I'm over it. I will never comment (on this subject) again.


George Gehrke was a hustler, and obviously deranged. Fortenberry is
something entirely different. While I can appreciate your point of
view, I have tried what you suggest, and it did no good. Fortenberry
ruins any discussion here which I attempt to join. He also constantly
insults and upsets others.

The only reason people donīt do anything about him, and view him
mainly as "backgound noise" is because they donīt want to get
involved.

As it happens, I had already decided to ignore him from now on. I have
achieved my objectives. Everybody knows what he is, and his motives
also seem pretty clear, so there should now be fewer problems. Have to
wait and see.

TL
MC


Ken Fortenberry[_2_] September 15th, 2007 01:33 AM

OT Leave Mike Connor Alone
 
salmobytes wrote:
Ever long for the good old days when George G spread so
much joy around?


The late George Gehrke and His Loony Mikeness have a lot in common.
Both were/are uneducated men from humble backgrounds who had some
successes in the world of fly fishing. And little else.

George ended up sending me a ****ty little bamboo fly rod he built
on his "assembly line" for which I paid way too much but was glad
to have as it represented something of a peace offering before he
passed. His Loony Mikeness, I'm afraid he's just a hopeless kook.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Tom Littleton September 15th, 2007 02:00 AM

OT Leave Mike Connor Alone
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
et...
......I paid way too much but was glad
to have as it represented something of a peace offering before he
passed. His Loony Mikeness, I'm afraid he's just a hopeless kook.

--
Ken Fortenberry


I see the game now!! You're just trying to get Mike to
build you a fly rod! Well played.
Tom
p.s. I left the g out, but my intentions should be obvious



Mike[_6_] September 15th, 2007 07:50 AM

OT Leave Mike Connor Alone
 
On 15 Sep, 01:48, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:


I have no way of knowing for sure, but I seriously doubt it.
Hell, I'm not even reading it anymore, just snipping away all
your drivel except the first line and then yanking your chain
once again. I own you, you fool, I control your puppet strings
and I can push your buttons at will. It's no great feat, granted,
but it does make for great entertainment. ;-)

Sneak Preview: OT His Loony Mikeness, German G-Man

How *is* that FBI report coming there Your Loony Mikeness ? LOL !!

--
Ken Fortenberry


Well now Kenny boy, you nasty inadequate little ****bag. Now you
think you own me. You are not only a nasty inadequate little ****bag,
you are as crazy as a loon. I imagined your perverted mind would come
up with some sort of silly tactic, but that sure is a new one.

You canīt even control yourself Kenny boy, much less anybody else.
How many others do you think you own? You think you own ROFF maybe?

Even easier to ignore you now Kenny boy, and for everybody else as
well. Of course I knew you were a nasty inadequate little ****, but I
did not really think you were completely nuts. Care to try "yanking
my chain" a little more Kenny boy? Just to see if you can?

MC


Halfordian Golfer September 15th, 2007 04:09 PM

OT Leave Mike Connor Alone
 
On Sep 14, 2:55 pm, Mike wrote:
On 14 Sep, 22:32, Halfordian Golfer wrote:



On Sep 14, 12:58 pm, Mike wrote:


On 14 Sep, 20:44, Frank Reid wrote:


Unfortunately (fortunately?) I had the sound turned down. Talk about
pathetic. Wait 50 years and her great grandchildren will dig this up
and ask about it.


Frank Reid


What a pathetic and disturbing display. Just the sort of thing that a
sick ****bag like Fortenberry would enjoy. I switched it off after the
first sentence.


Makes one wonder how much crap like that the guy watches? How about
it Kenny boy, that how you bolster your poor little ego? Watching
disturbed people suffer in public?


Beneath contempt.


MC


Hi Mike,


I humbly seek any advice you might be able to offer me.


When would a good time to come to London be, if I could find a way to
get off to fish? I wonder about fishing from the beach as much as any
flowing water.


I ask because I am scheduling a class at some time in the future
that's fairly flexible (2-4 months out) so any help would be very much
appreciated.


Would it be just too much of a hassle to be worth it or could it be
something cool? If I recall, it was you that showed me (years ago) how
to tie that baltic sea worm through twisting? Love to chuck some of
those bad boys, though I actually did cast one just the other day for
bass, though it was on one of those 107 degree days that everything
was working, so I opted for a popper.


Thanks very much,


Tim


It is a long time since I was last in London Tim, and the fishing in
the area was neither very good, nor what you might be used to. There
are various reservoirs dotted around which one pays to fish on an
hourly or daily basis. These are usually stocked with force fed
rainbows, and occasionally, brown trout. Some so called "coarse"
fishing ( for species other than salmonids), is available, which is
usually traditionally catch and release. This is usually done with
various baits, although there are a few places where one may fly-fish
for Pike, perch etc, it is not done much, and many places will be
private water which you can only get on per invitation.

There is some river fishing, within relatively easy reach of London,
but it is expensive and difficult to come by.

As fishing destination generally, London is a poor choice. If you
wanted to get the flavour of some reasonable fishing in England, then
I would suggest you get a guide like this for a day;

http://www.famousfishing.co.uk/corpo...ly_fishing.htm

http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/index2.htm I know Carl very well
and have fished with him on the Baltic and elsewhere. he is a
brilliant caster and instructor, and I can recommend him without any
reserve. I have no idea what he charges, but if you e-mail
( ) and mention I told you to, he may be
able to give you a good deal.

You will be able to fish some famous rivers, and also learn a lot if
you so wish, from some very skilled people.This however is not
exactly cheap.

Ocean fishing near London is a waste of time. The fish stocks are so
low that you would be unlikely to catch anything anyway.

Those are the only reasonable alternatives really. There may be a
Roffian or two who can give you more and better info for "going it
alone" near London. Mr,McPherson who posted here recently might be
able to help you out, as he is in the general area. If nobody replies,
then try posting the same question on this board;

http://www.flyforums.co.uk/

There are quite a number of people there who will be able and willing
to help you out.

TL
MC

--

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/


I may have been unclear in my question. That I would need to travel
from London is a given. My thought was to take advantage of being
there to see the country and taking a few extra days off from business
(train?). The links, Mike, are very much appreciated as is the
information. When I posted earlier, too, I recall the magazine
WaterLog and the idea of sitting down with a flask and a roache pole
is not out of the realm of possibilities either!

Thanks guys,

TBone


Tim J. September 15th, 2007 04:10 PM

OT Leave ... Alone
 

Ken Fortenberry typed:
and she *means it*. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc


Uh, are you sure that's a she? I think I see a 5:00 shadow. . .
--
TL,
Tim
---------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/



Halfordian Golfer September 15th, 2007 04:11 PM

OT Leave Mike Connor Alone
 
On Sep 14, 3:30 pm, Mike wrote:
On 14 Sep, 22:32, Halfordian Golfer wrote:



On Sep 14, 12:58 pm, Mike wrote:


On 14 Sep, 20:44, Frank Reid wrote:


Unfortunately (fortunately?) I had the sound turned down. Talk about
pathetic. Wait 50 years and her great grandchildren will dig this up
and ask about it.


Frank Reid


What a pathetic and disturbing display. Just the sort of thing that a
sick ****bag like Fortenberry would enjoy. I switched it off after the
first sentence.


Makes one wonder how much crap like that the guy watches? How about
it Kenny boy, that how you bolster your poor little ego? Watching
disturbed people suffer in public?


Beneath contempt.


MC


Hi Mike,


I humbly seek any advice you might be able to offer me.


When would a good time to come to London be, if I could find a way to
get off to fish? I wonder about fishing from the beach as much as any
flowing water.


I ask because I am scheduling a class at some time in the future
that's fairly flexible (2-4 months out) so any help would be very much
appreciated.


Would it be just too much of a hassle to be worth it or could it be
something cool? If I recall, it was you that showed me (years ago) how
to tie that baltic sea worm through twisting? Love to chuck some of
those bad boys, though I actually did cast one just the other day for
bass, though it was on one of those 107 degree days that everything
was working, so I opted for a popper.


Thanks very much,


Tim


By the way Tim, on the worm front, you might find this of interest;

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-on...rns/Hard_Core_...

A couple of people told me they worked very well for bass as well.

TL
MC


To quote the Guiness Guys: Brilliant! Very cool. Thanks Mike!

Your pal,

Halfordian Golfer


Dave LaCourse September 15th, 2007 07:37 PM

OT Leave Mike Connor Alone
 
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:28:02 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Yeah, you have. You attack anyone who dares to disagree
with His Loony Mikeness. Your posts are full of filthy
invective, insults and name-calling. As a result you've
become something of a laughingstock on roff. That's the
hole you're in Mike, and it's all of you're own doing.

Please, do carry on.


Amen. Some things never change.....

Just got back (couple of hours ago) from another fine trip to
Lakewood. Inspite of biblical rains, the river fished very well, with
many fair size brook trout brought to hand and some very big (20+
inch) landlocks too. Harry Mason's flies rule!

http://www.troutflies.com/Merchant2/...Gen_Cadd_Dries
http://www.troutflies.com/Merchant2/...Gen_Cadd_Dries
http://www.troutflies.com/Merchant2/...eneral_emerger

Both dry flies worked even when there was no caddis hatch. I went
through an almost full bottle of Frog's Fanny. That's the only
trouble with cdc - ya need Frog's Fanny and its brush to get cdc back
to its original condition.

The emerger, however, worked best when fished as a nymph, down deep.
Took some nice brookies from the Currents and Lower Dam with that fly.
In addition to fishing it like a nymph (down deep), I also fished it
as a dropper from a "big and ugly" (a big foam hopper) with the job of
staying afloat through rough water dragging the emerger 12 inches
behind it and about two inches from the surface. Had some explosive
takes on it with salmon coming completely out of the water.

Off next week to fish/float the West Branch of the Pennobscot with
friends. And, yes, Richard, there are still no leaks in the G3s.
I've given up counting, but it's at least 450 days of no-leak-wading.

Halfordian Golfer September 15th, 2007 11:37 PM

OT Leave Mike Connor Alone
 
On Sep 14, 3:37 pm, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:
In article . com,Halfordian Golfer wrote:

Hi Halfordian

I'm based in London. Caught my biggest ever grayling on the Itchen a
couple of days ago, an hour away from the centre of London (and I don't
have an automobile - train and bicycle).

As Mike says, it's difficult, but not impossible. It tends to be
expensive, especially as the US economy is going down the tube at the
moment and London is currently the most expensive city in the world.

Peak time for river fishing is May, June. After that I'd go to
Ireland/Scotland/somewhere else.

I don't know about sea or lake fishing.

Lazarus

ps - like mike, if I were thinking of fishing somewhere in Europe,
Londo is about the last place I'd choose to begin.

When would a good time to come to London be, if I could find a way to
get off to fish? I wonder about fishing from the beach as much as any
flowing water.


I ask because I am scheduling a class at some time in the future
that's fairly flexible (2-4 months out) so any help would be very much
appreciated.


Would it be just too much of a hassle to be worth it or could it be
something cool? If I recall, it was you that showed me (years ago) how
to tie that baltic sea worm through twisting? Love to chuck some of
those bad boys, though I actually did cast one just the other day for
bass, though it was on one of those 107 degree days that everything
was working, so I opted for a popper.


Thanks very much,


Tim



Thanks very much. I have a good image of London and the nature of
it, how many million people in how large an area? The Euro-USD thing
is a concern, which is a bummer for sure. So let me ask again a little
more clearly. If a guy was in England and wanted to sample some of the
best english flyfishing what would the top places be?

Thanks guys.

Sincerely,

TBone


Ken Fortenberry[_2_] September 15th, 2007 11:53 PM

OT Leave Mike Connor Alone
 
Mike wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
...
Hell, I'm not even reading it anymore, just snipping away all
your drivel except the first line and then yanking your chain
once again. I own you, you fool, I control your puppet strings
and I can push your buttons at will. It's no great feat, granted,
but it does make for great entertainment. ;-)

Sneak Preview: OT His Loony Mikeness, German G-Man

How *is* that FBI report coming there Your Loony Mikeness ? LOL !!


Well now Kenny boy, ...


Are you still here ? Have you no shame ? Don't you *get it* ?
You're a joke, a funny T-shirt, the little pommy twit who we
laugh at openly. And of course, I own you. Every time I push
your button you perform your act, just like a monkey trained
to toss his **** at the glass outside his cage you fire off
foul-mouthed insults and loony rants.

Your latest ****-tossing tirade started because you couldn't
abide anyone disagreeing with your cockamamie proclamation
that only ignorant anglers fish for stockers. You upbraided
a guy for posting a perfectly delightful trip report because
in His Loony Mikeness' world raising fish for stocking is
part and parcel of some loony, sky-is-falling, doomsday scenario.
After it was pointed out to you that all your links referred to
aquaculture and not fish stocking you became more intransigent
and nasty. What a nut. And a vicious, foul-mouthed nut to boot.

Is it any wonder you're one of roff's longest running jokes ?

--
Ken Fortenberry


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