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If some of your US fans ask you where to buy fuller's earth? Sure, it is easily obtainable once you know what it is. A few Americans have told me they had trouble obtaining it when they asked for "Fullerīs Earth" by name. Most cat litter is Fullerīs earth. By the way, some other clays are much the same, and will also work. Kaolin (China Clay, Pipe Clay, Fuller's Earth) is hydrated aluminum silicate. Available as a fine white powder with a rather slippery oily texture, kaolin is slightly adhesive when mixed with water. The best grades are found today in native deposits in England, although the name kaolin comes from China and indicates a material from which the best white porcelain was made. It is used as a carrier for lake colors, as a filler in paints, and as a modifying material in pastels. Bentonite is an American clay, sold as a powder, that gels when added to water. It is used to make artists pastel chalks less brittle. Montmorillonite is basically the same thing FULLERS EARTH POWDER is a grey green powder,similar to KAOLIN,but with slightly stronger absorbent properties.( This is the stuff commonly used as beauty masks). "European Clay" is the same stuff. To use it, mix an ounce or so of the earth with a half a tea-spoonfull of liquid detergent, and a quarter tea-spoonfull of glycerine. I carry a lump of this in a zip lock bag, it will also fit in a normal small plastic film can, but is then more difficult to use. It should be a very firm paste in a solid but malleable lump. To use it, just draw the nylon through it. This de-glints the nylon, because the earth is a mild abrasive. Once the nylon has been de-glinted, you donīt need to use the earth on it any more, you just need to pull it through a small sponge with dilute detergent. The detergent in the paste is only to make the leader sink. Drawing nylon through the paste de-glints and treats it in one go. It also cleans any grease or oil off the line. You can add water if the paste is too hard. The glycerine is only to stop the lump of paste drying out too fast. I have been using the same lump for about five years now. If you use the cat litter, just grind it up ( or crush it with a hammer etc), and do the same as above. One can also obtain the more expensive pharmaceutical quality stuff, at drugstores or similar, it is sold as a "facial" for women, or people suffering from acne. It is known as "Fullerīs" earth, because it was once used for "fulling", a process in the manufacture of certain textiles. It basically fluffs up wool. Fullerīs would knead the material with their feet, and the finely powdered clay was added to the fulling bath. This is also the origin of the surname "Fuller" TL MC |
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Sorry! Chris! Lost some text. These online text processors are not very good! It basically fluffs up the wool, and at the same time shrinks the fabric, so that no weave is visible. Just extra info |
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If you use the maxima, as I suggested, you donīt need to de-glint it, it already has a matte finish. If you use the cheap spooled nylon ( doesnīt matter what brand, the cheapest you can find is usually OK, as long as the dealer has a good stock turnover. Old nylon is unreliable.) then you will need to de-glint it. I generally de-glint the whole leader, but I know a couple of people who only de-glint the tippet. TL MC |
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"Mike" wrote in message ups.com... Draft autosaved at 3:45 am If you use the maxima, as I suggested, you donīt need to de-glint it, it already has a matte finish. If you use the cheap spooled nylon ( doesnīt matter what brand, the cheapest you can find is usually OK, as long as the dealer has a good stock turnover. Old nylon is unreliable.) then you will need to de-glint it. I generally de-glint the whole leader, but I know a couple of people who only de-glint the tippet. TL MC is this(and the other two threads) supposed to make any sense whatsoever?? I had to admit, I got a chuckle from the one inquiring about your "American Fansg Tom |
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On Sep 21, 6:33 pm, Mike wrote:
Draft autosaved at 3:19 am If some of your US fans ask you where to buy fuller's earth? Sure, it is easily obtainable once you know what it is. A few Americans have told me they had trouble obtaining it when they asked for "Fullerīs Earth" by name. Most cat litter is Fullerīs earth. By the way, some other clays are much the same, and will also work. Kaolin (China Clay, Pipe Clay, Fuller's Earth) is hydrated aluminum silicate. Available as a fine white powder with a rather slippery oily texture, kaolin is slightly adhesive when mixed with water. The best grades are found today in native deposits in England, although the name kaolin comes from China and indicates a material from which the best white porcelain was made. It is used as a carrier for lake colors, as a filler in paints, and as a modifying material in pastels. Bentonite is an American clay, sold as a powder, that gels when added to water. It is used to make artists pastel chalks less brittle. Montmorillonite is basically the same thing FULLERS EARTH POWDER is a grey green powder,similar to KAOLIN,but with slightly stronger absorbent properties.( This is the stuff commonly used as beauty masks). "European Clay" is the same stuff. To use it, mix an ounce or so of the earth with a half a tea-spoonfull of liquid detergent, and a quarter tea-spoonfull of glycerine. I carry a lump of this in a zip lock bag, it will also fit in a normal small plastic film can, but is then more difficult to use. It should be a very firm paste in a solid but malleable lump. To use it, just draw the nylon through it. This de-glints the nylon, because the earth is a mild abrasive. Once the nylon has been de-glinted, you donīt need to use the earth on it any more, you just need to pull it through a small sponge with dilute detergent. The detergent in the paste is only to make the leader sink. Drawing nylon through the paste de-glints and treats it in one go. It also cleans any grease or oil off the line. You can add water if the paste is too hard. The glycerine is only to stop the lump of paste drying out too fast. I have been using the same lump for about five years now. If you use the cat litter, just grind it up ( or crush it with a hammer etc), and do the same as above. One can also obtain the more expensive pharmaceutical quality stuff, at drugstores or similar, it is sold as a "facial" for women, or people suffering from acne. It is known as "Fullerīs" earth, because it was once used for "fulling", a process in the manufacture of certain textiles. It basically fluffs up wool. Fullerīs would knead the material with their feet, and the finely powdered clay was added to the fulling bath. This is also the origin of the surname "Fuller" TL MC "If some of your US fans ask you where to buy fuller's earth?" If they did I wouldn't reply with a three posts regurgating google look-ups. There is usually a little mud somewhere about about a stream and that works quite well. Fullers earth is also used in filters ( usually in combination with diatomaceous earth-as it is in many applications ) for removing water from transfromer oil. Bentonite is also used for cable puling lubricant. It works quite well and is approved by most medium voltage cable vendors. |
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on Sat 22 Sep 2007 09:59:56a: On Sep 21, 6:33 pm, Mike wrote: Draft autosaved at 3:19 am If some of your US fans ask you where to buy fuller's earth? Sure, it is easily obtainable once you know what it is. A few Americans have told me they had trouble obtaining it when they asked for "Fullerīs Earth" by name. Most cat litter is Fullerīs earth. By the way, some other clays are much the same, and will also work. Kaolin (China Clay, Pipe Clay, Fuller's Earth) is hydrated aluminum silicate. Available as a fine white powder with a rather slippery oily texture, kaolin is slightly adhesive when mixed with water. The best grades are found today in native deposits in England, although the name kaolin comes from China and indicates a material from which the best white porcelain was made. It is used as a carrier for lake colors, as a filler in paints, and as a modifying material in pastels. Bentonite is an American clay, sold as a powder, that gels when added to water. It is used to make artists pastel chalks less brittle. Montmorillonite is basically the same thing FULLERS EARTH POWDER is a grey green powder,similar to KAOLIN,but with slightly stronger absorbent properties.( This is the stuff commonly used as beauty masks). "European Clay" is the same stuff. To use it, mix an ounce or so of the earth with a half a tea-spoonfull of liquid detergent, and a quarter tea-spoonfull of glycerine. I carry a lump of this in a zip lock bag, it will also fit in a normal small plastic film can, but is then more difficult to use. It should be a very firm paste in a solid but malleable lump. To use it, just draw the nylon through it. This de-glints the nylon, because the earth is a mild abrasive. Once the nylon has been de-glinted, you donīt need to use the earth on it any more, you just need to pull it through a small sponge with dilute detergent. The detergent in the paste is only to make the leader sink. Drawing nylon through the paste de-glints and treats it in one go. It also cleans any grease or oil off the line. You can add water if the paste is too hard. The glycerine is only to stop the lump of paste drying out too fast. I have been using the same lump for about five years now. If you use the cat litter, just grind it up ( or crush it with a hammer etc), and do the same as above. One can also obtain the more expensive pharmaceutical quality stuff, at drugstores or similar, it is sold as a "facial" for women, or people suffering from acne. It is known as "Fullerīs" earth, because it was once used for "fulling", a process in the manufacture of certain textiles. It basically fluffs up wool. Fullerīs would knead the material with their feet, and the finely powdered clay was added to the fulling bath. This is also the origin of the surname "Fuller" TL MC "If some of your US fans ask you where to buy fuller's earth?" If they did I wouldn't reply with a three posts regurgating google look-ups. There is usually a little mud somewhere about about a stream and that works quite well. Fullers earth is also used in filters ( usually in combination with diatomaceous earth-as it is in many applications ) for removing water from transfromer oil. Bentonite is also used for cable puling lubricant. It works quite well and is approved by most medium voltage cable vendors. Bentonite is also used to plug holes drilled for seismic exploration. Swells up and helps focus the blast in a downward direction. Nothing like walking around with a couple of kilos of GeoGel, (high explosive) in the pockets of your coveralls and blasting caps in your shirt pocket, to wake you up in the morning. bg Later...... LabRat...... |:^{) |
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"LabRat" wrote in message
Bentonite is also used to plug holes drilled for seismic exploration. Swells up and helps focus the blast in a downward direction. Nothing like walking around with a couple of kilos of GeoGel, (high explosive) in the pockets of your coveralls and blasting caps in your shirt pocket, to wake you up in the morning. bg It's also used for "slurry walls" whereby a trench excavation is filled with a bentonite slurry. The bentonite seals the adjacent soil, and the hydrostatic pressure helps keep the trench walls from collapsing. Joe F. |
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On 22 Sep, 05:11, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
is this(and the other two threads) supposed to make any sense whatsoever?? I had to admit, I got a chuckle from the one inquiring about your "American Fansg Tom Those posts were in error.They were replies to e-mail queries. I donīt know why that software saves drafts to a group address. It wonīt do so any more, as I have now deleted it. Well hereīs another few chuckles for you; QUOTE Mike, By all means, use whatever you'd like if you think any of it would be helpful to others. Mike, I've only just begun and I'm much, much closer to a novice than an expert. I am learning (slowly), thanks to your help and advice, I am enjoying myself, and I am catching more fish than I ever have before. For the life of me, though, I cannot catch a fish on a spider! I catch a lot of fish on the bob (usually an elk hair caddis) and a lot on the point (usually a simple nymph - just a dark grey heather wool yarn wrapped around the hook, a little thicker in the thorax, and scruffed up with velcro, occasionally a hare's ear nymph copied from your site). If I use a winged wet like a leadwing coachman or a grouse and green or a hare's ear, I pick up some fish on the dropper. But a Stewart spider, a partridge and orange or a hare's lug and plover comes up with nothing. Yeah, I sprung for a golden plover skin, thinking a bird flu outbreak might prevent further imports forever. Until I can catch a few fish with it though, I'm going to be kicking myself. I know it will come, but until then it is a bit frustrating. What's also frustrating is that people write in to the forums about catching fish swinging spiders, and I know that swinging them is not the best way to fish them. Obviously, I don't yet know what the best way is, though... ;-) Take care and tight lines, UNQUOTE That was from one of my American fans, I have plenty more. Here are a couple from various English fans; QUOTE Mike, Thanks for your excellent posts. I have been struggling to learn everything I can about SWFFing since I 'discovered' it only six months ago and I think I learned more from your articles than any other single source. I particularly appreciate your open-minded and free-thinking attitude to the subject - too many writers seem to be hidebound by 'tradition' or 'the done thing' and seem incapable of independent thought. UNQUOTE QUOTE Hi Mike another great and extremely informative piece! Thanks a lot! UNQUOTE QUOTE Absolutely brilliant. Tried the floating frog on a #8 weight, and got seven pike on the first outing, best just short of twelve pounds. was easy to cast, and the fish hit it hard. Thanks! UNQUOTE Would you like some more chuckles? I have a whole load of these and similar thank you letters. MC |
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I could also send you a few in German, French, Rumanian, Czech, and a couple of others, but you wouldnīt even be able to read most of them. When people like you try to ridicule me now, it only makes me laugh. Although it used to upset me. For every person who posts crap on ROFF, there are many many more who appreciate my help and advice, so you are merely wasting your time. Since the business relating to Gehrkes death, you obviously have a personal dislike of me, and it colours your judgement. As one or two people obviously think you are a nice bloke, it seems a bit odd that you would carry a grudge so long, but it makes no difference to me what you write. MC |
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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:00:59 -0700, Mike
wrote: Would you like some more chuckles? I have a whole load of these and similar thank you letters. Of course you do, Mike. You are de man! Why, everyone on roff justs loves ya. toot toot Mike be blowin' his horn agin....toot toot Get help, man. Get help. |
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"Mike" wrote in message ups.com... I could also send you a few in German, French, Rumanian, Czech, and a couple of others, but you wouldnīt even be able to read most of them. When people like you try to ridicule me now, it only makes me laugh. Although it used to upset me. For every person who posts crap on ROFF, there are many many more who appreciate my help and advice, so you are merely wasting your time. Since the business relating to Gehrkes death, you obviously have a personal dislike of me, and it colours your judgement. As one or two people obviously think you are a nice bloke, it seems a bit odd that you would carry a grudge so long, but it makes no difference to me what you write. MC Mike, I don't carry any grudges. I don't really have a major rooting interest in the ****ing match with Fortenberry. I just found it amusing, and what you post and how you post is VERY amusing. Carry on, singing your own praises, it is a riot! Tom |
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:41:05 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote: Mike, I don't carry any grudges. I don't really have a major rooting interest in the ****ing match with Fortenberry. I just found it amusing, and what you post and how you post is VERY amusing. Carry on, singing your own praises, it is a riot! You're just a big ole Dumbo and will never change. d;o) |
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"rb608" wrote in message news:Z0iJi.2240$J03.1023@trndny03... "LabRat" wrote in message Bentonite is also used to plug holes drilled for seismic exploration. Swells up and helps focus the blast in a downward direction. Nothing like walking around with a couple of kilos of GeoGel, (high explosive) in the pockets of your coveralls and blasting caps in your shirt pocket, to wake you up in the morning. bg It's also used for "slurry walls" whereby a trench excavation is filled with a bentonite slurry. The bentonite seals the adjacent soil, and the hydrostatic pressure helps keep the trench walls from collapsing. It's also used as a base liner for landfills to keep toxic stews from shooting through at a rate high enough to make the nasty stuff readily detectable at the water table. Wolfgang who knows that the real solution to pollution is the careful and judicious use of the right monitoring equipment and protocols. |
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On 24 Sep, 11:41, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
Mike, I don't carry any grudges. I don't really have a major rooting interest in the ****ing match with Fortenberry. I just found it amusing, and what you post and how you post is VERY amusing. Carry on, singing your own praises, it is a riot! Tom There are quite a few who donīt find it amusing at all. But each to his own. I donīt need to, I was merely pointing out that others do. MC |
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On Sep 24, 5:55 am, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"rb608" wrote in message news:Z0iJi.2240$J03.1023@trndny03... "LabRat" wrote in message Bentonite is also used to plug holes drilled for seismic exploration. Swells up and helps focus the blast in a downward direction. Nothing like walking around with a couple of kilos of GeoGel, (high explosive) in the pockets of your coveralls and blasting caps in your shirt pocket, to wake you up in the morning. bg It's also used for "slurry walls" whereby a trench excavation is filled with a bentonite slurry. The bentonite seals the adjacent soil, and the hydrostatic pressure helps keep the trench walls from collapsing. It's also used as a base liner for landfills to keep toxic stews from shooting through at a rate high enough to make the nasty stuff readily detectable at the water table. Wolfgang who knows that the real solution to pollution is the careful and judicious use of the right monitoring equipment and protocols. Bentonite slurry is also slicker than snot on a door knob or owl****. It mgiht be better than Mazola or Crisco for a Crisco party. |
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... You're just a big ole Dumbo and will never change. d;o) true, that......g Tom |
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