Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 

I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?
-tom

Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 

On Sep 26, 2:44 pm, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?

Before it's heartbreaking demise, my 9'-9" 8 wt. was a salmon-catching
cannon. It could punch a long roll cast or a single-handed spey cast
with ease. Accuracy at distance was also easier, I thought. I loved
that rod. Mending? Yeah, I thought it was better, but I'm not sure
that was any more than attitude. I'm not sure the extra 9" really
made much difference there. Downside? It was definitely heavier, and
the slower pace took me a while to get used to.

Summary, the big rod is dead; but I bought another 9'-6", and I'm not
sorry.

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On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:44:15 -0700, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:

I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?
-tom



I'm on my second 10' 7 wt.. I bought the first to give me more control
casting while sitting in a canoe. It rapidly became my favorite bass
rod whether I was sitting or standing. I really noticed the difference
when I broke it a few months ago and fished a couple 9 footers I still
have. They just didn't handle the bigger smallie flies as well as the
10' did. So I bought another one a month ago and really can't imagine
not using it for most of my bass fishing.


g.c.

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Tom Nakashima wrote:
I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?

I have Thomas & Thomas XL 10' 7wt. It's a sweet casting steelhead
rod and a joy to use from a canoe. The extra foot really makes a
difference when you're sitting or kneeling in a canoe and yes, it
will mend better than a 9 ft when standing in the stream.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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On Sep 26, 11:44 am, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?
-tom

While not a 7wt, I use a 10'6" 3wt as my primary trout
fishing rod. It's great for mending and since it's a very
slow action and 10'6" it's loads of fun once you hook a
fish.
- Ken

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In article , Tom Nakashima
wrote:

I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?
-tom

I've owned and used a 10' 6-7 Bruce and Walker boat rod for many (15?)
years. I don't use it that often - it's made for a particular Irish
speciality - fishing the wet fly off a boat. I quite like it, because
it has a very slow, lazy, easy action, which is quite right for the
particular circumstances of fishing on the very big lakes you get on
the west of Ireland. The length is not for long casting - you're often
working the wet fly quite close to the boat - , but for line control,
which is important in these circumstances.

But the fact is that while I could use it on rivers, I don't. If I'm
fishing for salmon on spate rivers such as the Finn in Donegal, I'd use
either a 9' or a 9' 6" Hardy (6/7) with an extended butt, or, more
often, a lovely 12' double handed rod made by Bruce and Walker (also
6/7) - the Silver Stream (long discontinued, and I mention its name
with reluctance, as I'm looking for another on ebay - I fish on
different islands and don't like carrying a two-piece 12' rod on
airplanes).


While talking about rod length, I've recently had a 'road to Damascus'
(if that isn't politically inflammatory suggestion at the moment on
roff) conversion away from the 9' rod.

I've often argued for 8' to 9' rods, even on small streams, for the dry
fly - again, line control. My Sage 3-8-9 is still probably my
favorite.

But a week or so ago I went to the Itchen, an English chalk stream
(something like a spring creek), with a little cane 6' 3" cane rod
that was made for me maybe 20 years ago by Lance Nicholson (long dead)
of Dulverton on Exmoor in England.

When I first bought the rod I didn't like it - it didn't seem to do
anything I wanted- and it's been sitting in storage for years. But I'd
tried it out on the street outside my flat in one of the most
disadvantaged parts of london (Brixton - the unfashionable (peckham)
end) and it seemed sweet, and was easy to strap onto my bike, so I took
it.

I loved it, and it caught me several fine fish, including my biggest
ever grayling (two and a half pounds, with a big strong deep back,
which is very big for these English waters) with no problems at all. It
will be my rod of first choice in future.

I suppose what's happened is that my casting has got less ambitious,
more relaxed (& therefore better!) in the intervening years.

My advice to learners, and more often to myself, when casting is going
wrong, is not to try harder, but to try *less* hard. *I*, at least,
have found it very useful advice.

Lazarus

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On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:44:15 -0700, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:

I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?
-tom

One of my favorite big-feesh rods is a custom rolled Loomis GLX 10' 9weight.
It is wonderfully light for its strength and length, and it's the proverbial
howitzer of a rod. I've been using it when the opportunity arises for around
10 years now (iirc) and it has stood up to a lot of salt water (ab)use.

I also used it on the Salmon River last fall and its reach made mending
precise and easy, and it stood up to what I still think was the biggest salmon
we hooked on the trip (it was damn near as long as Paul and had to be nearing
50 pounds)...

/daytripper (it'll be making the same trip in a couple of weeks)

Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 

In article , Tom Nakashima
writes
I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?
-tom



I used to fish with a 10'-6" Kunnan 7/9 weight rod for still water
fishing. It was a very fine rod but as time went by and I got older I
became more used to using my 9' -6" Kunnan which was aslo 7/9 weight.
neither rod was too heavy to handle and could produce a good long cast.

My next purchase was a 9' 9" Daiwa - again 7/9 weight.

Nowadays I have become so used to fishing with a John Wilson 9" , 8 wt
rod that the others aren't comfortable any more.

Basically it depends on what sort of fishing you want to do. For long
casts and not too much emphasis on presentation then go for a long rod
of 7/9 wt. I use a wt forward #8 line on my rods.

I notice from many postings on ROFF that you guys frequently use lines
as light as #4 or 5# something that we don't use too much in the UK.

BTW for my river fishing I use an 8'-6" rod with a #6 DT ot #7 WSFline.
--
Bill Grey

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On Sep 26, 1:46 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

rod and a joy to use from a canoe. The extra foot really makes a
difference when you're sitting or kneeling in a canoe and yes, it

C'mon you sissie, just stand up :-)

Jon.

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Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:28:59 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
rod and a joy to use from a canoe. The extra foot really makes a
difference when you're sitting or kneeling in a canoe and yes, it

C'mon you sissie, just stand up :-)

I'm working on doing just that with my 18' Grumman.

She'll have a 2hp Honda four stroke and a trolling motor
which can be mounted for either solo or two-person fishing,
a casting deck amidships, a removable seat behind the center
thwart for solo use and outrigger pontoons on both sides so
even a big, clumsy lummox like myself can stand on the casting
deck. And all this will be easily and quickly removable so as
to convert this lean, mean, musky-chasing machine back into my
grandpa's heirloom canoe with nary a hint, besides a few extra
holes in the gunwales, that she's been "modified".

I've already got the 2hp, the pontoons and the removable center
seat, all I need now is to set up the casting deck and get the
trolling motor and battery. Hell, I'm even thinking so long as
I have a battery in the boat I might get a fish finder too and
mount the transducer on the trolling motor.

All it needs now is a nice coat of metal flake paint...

/daytripper (It's a slippery slope on down to the Power Bait ;-)

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daytripper wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
wrote:
C'mon you sissie, just stand up :-)
I'm working on doing just that with my 18' Grumman.
snip

All it needs now is a nice coat of metal flake paint...

/daytripper (It's a slippery slope on down to the Power Bait ;-)

Yeah, and it all started with a sink-tip line. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:28:59 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
rod and a joy to use from a canoe. The extra foot really makes a
difference when you're sitting or kneeling in a canoe and yes, it

C'mon you sissie, just stand up :-)

I'm working on doing just that with my 18' Grumman.

She'll have a 2hp Honda four stroke and a trolling motor
which can be mounted for either solo or two-person fishing,
a casting deck amidships, a removable seat behind the center
thwart for solo use and outrigger pontoons on both sides so
even a big, clumsy lummox like myself can stand on the casting
deck. And all this will be easily and quickly removable so as
to convert this lean, mean, musky-chasing machine back into my
grandpa's heirloom canoe with nary a hint, besides a few extra
holes in the gunwales, that she's been "modified".

I've already got the 2hp, the pontoons and the removable center
seat, all I need now is to set up the casting deck and get the
trolling motor and battery. Hell, I'm even thinking so long as
I have a battery in the boat I might get a fish finder too and
mount the transducer on the trolling motor.

If you make the deck out of something like Penskeboard (Whaleboard,
etc.) and 'glass it, with some runners on the bottom, also out of PB,
you'll have something easily removable, light-weight, _totally_
rot/moistureproof, and no extra holes needed.

If you don't know Penskeboard, etc., it's lightweight fiber board
(glass, not wood, fibers) used in boat building. It is _not_ the PVC
and similar material, ala Starboard. A 4' x 8' x 1/2" sheet is under
150USD and would make a sub-40lb.-ish platform. Technically, you don't
even have to 'glass it over, but I'd do so.



TC,
R

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On Sep 26, 4:52 pm, daytripper wrote:
I also used it on the Salmon River last fall and its reach made mending
precise and easy, and it stood up to what I still think was the biggest salmon
we hooked on the trip (it was damn near as long as Paul and had to be nearing
50 pounds)...

Hey, I've seen Paul; and he's a lot more than 50 pounds. :-)

Joe F.

Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
...
I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?
-tom



Thanks, enjoyed reading all the post, especially the stories using the 10'
fly-rod.
-tom

Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 

"Peter A. Collin" wrote in message
...
Tom Nakashima wrote:
I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?
-tom


I have a 10 foot 7 weight T&T I use for steelhead. It is great for
mending and roll casting, which you spend a lot of time doing while
steelheading. I used the same rod on the Bow River, banging the banks
from a drift boat. it wore me out. Long rods are taxing on your wrists,
and I have a touch of carpal tunnel syndrome.

Pete Collin

Pete, by any chance is your carpal tunnel syndrome from casting?
-tom

Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
...
I have a 10 foot 7 weight T&T I use for steelhead. It is great for
mending and roll casting, which you spend a lot of time doing while
steelheading. I used the same rod on the Bow River, banging the banks
from a drift boat. it wore me out. Long rods are taxing on your wrists,
and I have a touch of carpal tunnel syndrome.

Pete Collin

Pete, by any chance is your carpal tunnel syndrome from casting?
-tom

Several years ago I posted an article about tennis elbow relating to fly
fishing. A buddy of mine had a terrible time with it after a week long
fishing trip. He had to give up fly fishing for a year to allow it to heal.

Following is an interesting article on fly fishing related injuries:
http://www.umt.edu/urelations/rview/...06/fishing.htm

JT

Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 

Tom Nakashima wrote:
I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?
-tom

I owned a 10' Powell 7/8wt rod. It would cast a mile, and mended a bit
better too. The only thing I didn't like about this particular rod was,
it was very stiff. It needed an 8wt line to properly load it. While I
never tried it, it might have been easier to cast with a 9wt line. I
scaled down to a Sage 9'6" XP 7wt(being built for me). I have
fished(steelhead)this same setup, and it's benefits(rollcasting &
mending)over the 9 footer I use, sold me on the switch.

brians

Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:44:15 -0700, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:

I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?

Mending made easy with my Sage XP 10 foot 7 weight. I bought it to go
Chinook and Steelhead fishing on the Saugeen River in Ontario with
roff's own Peter Charles. Put a Lamson 3.5 on it with steelhead taper
and it can pump out the big fly and the extra foot makes mending a no
brainer. It is a light rod (relatively speaking) and easy to use all
day. While in Alaska, I preferred it to the lodge's Orvis 8 weights.
It handled the big fish better and mending with it was much easy.

I used it in Russia to land big rainbows, Alaska with 15+ pound
Silvers, and Ontario with big Steelhead and Chinooks. It's four
pieces make it an easy travel rod to go with my multiple piece 5 and 6
weights.

Dave

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On Sep 26, 1:44 pm, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?
-tom

With all these replies, where's Wayne? I mean, if anyone had a 10'
7wt, I figure it would be him. Just saw his traveling rod show down
in So. Mo. Even impressed the guide.
I fish bigger water. I've just been given the opportunity to by a 10'
7wt blank through my fishing club. Hmm, methinks there might be a new
rod in my future.
Frank Reid

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briansfly managed to spew a response in
rec.outdoors.fishing.fly on Thu 27 Sep 2007 04:49:01p:

Tom Nakashima wrote:
I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?
-tom

I owned a 10' Powell 7/8wt rod. It would cast a mile, and mended a bit
better too. The only thing I didn't like about this particular rod was,
it was very stiff. It needed an 8wt line to properly load it. While I
never tried it, it might have been easier to cast with a 9wt line. I
scaled down to a Sage 9'6" XP 7wt(being built for me). I have
fished(steelhead)this same setup, and it's benefits(rollcasting &
mending)over the 9 footer I use, sold me on the switch.

brians


I have a 10' Powell as well. Actually now 9'6" after an altercation with a
vacuum cleaner power head. It's a 9/10 wt. I built in '85 to go after
salmon and steelhead in the Fraser Valley. I have it rigged with a 10 wt.
floating shooting head on a 2 to 1 Diawa, Made in England, Model 859 fly
reel. For sink tips I made a bunch of different sized tips from some lead
core, Cortland Kerboom, shooting taper. I made loops at the ends, whip
finished and coated with neoprene wader glue. Easy to swap out lines and
sinktips.

The rod has a nice flex through the grip action that seemed to improve when
the tip got shortened and the 3" fighting butt sure helps out when hauling
in big springs or steelies in fast water.

I used it a couple of weeks ago to go after pike but the few I caught
weren't of a size to need that much rod. It was nice to stretch out a line
again tho.

Northern Alberta sucks for fishing. A couple more years and I hope to be
back in Southern BC. This is no place for an old fish junkie like me.


Later......

LabRat...... |:^{)

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"Frank Reid" wrote in message
ps.com...

With all these replies, where's Wayne? I mean, if anyone had a 10'
7wt, I figure it would be him. Just saw his traveling rod show down
in So. Mo. Even impressed the guide.
I fish bigger water.

The guide only saw three rods Frank, sheesh. It was Tom Hargrove's custom
work on two of them that impressed him.

And the longest rod I own is a 9½' 5wt. Both of my 7wts are 9'

Sorry to disappoint you.

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Wayne Knight wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in message
ps.com...

With all these replies, where's Wayne? I mean, if anyone had a 10'
7wt, I figure it would be him. Just saw his traveling rod show down
in So. Mo. Even impressed the guide.
I fish bigger water.

The guide only saw three rods Frank, sheesh. It was Tom Hargrove's custom
work on two of them that impressed him.

And the longest rod I own is a 9½' 5wt. Both of my 7wts are 9'

Sorry to disappoint you.

The 10ft 7wt is becoming more or less the "standard" summer
steelhead rod in the PNW these days (despite the growing
popularity of spey rods).

That said, I don't like them. Yes, I suppose the extra length
improves mending ability somewhat, and yes, mending is important
in swinging flies for summer steelhead. Still, that advantage
is--to me anyway--more than offset by the fact that I find a
7-8wt 10 ft rod much more difficult and tiring to cast all day
long than a corresponding 9ft rod.

A personal preference, no doubt, but in my case a strong one.
The only rod I've ever owned that I had an active hatred for was
a 10ft 7wt Sage XP. Fished it three times, despised it, and
couldn't wait to unload it......

- JR

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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:41:03 -0400, JR wrote:

A personal preference, no doubt, but in my case a strong one.
The only rod I've ever owned that I had an active hatred for was
a 10ft 7wt Sage XP. Fished it three times, despised it, and
couldn't wait to unload it......

Wuss! I have the same rod and love it. Different strokes, eh?

d;o)

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The 10ft 7wt is becoming more or less the "standard" summer
steelhead rod in the PNW these days (despite the growing
popularity of spey rods).

Well, this thread got me thinking and after spending 5 days with a
traveling fly shop (hmm, then again, between Wayne's rods and my fly
boxes, we could open a store), I went down to Cabelas to check one
out. They have their Tradition rod on clearance (their discontinuing
it). I cast one of the requisite size and bought it for $64.88. Got
the reel and line already. I think this will be a good carp rod on
the Platte River.
Its all Wayne's fault.
Frank Reid

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Frank Reid wrote:

.... I cast one of the requisite size and bought it for $64.88. Got
the reel and line already. I think this will be a good carp rod on
the Platte River.

Its all Wayne's fault.

Name something gear-related that isn't.

;)

- JR

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Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:41:03 -0400, JR wrote:

The only rod I've ever owned that I had an active hatred for was
a 10ft 7wt Sage XP. Fished it three times, despised it, and
couldn't wait to unload it......

Wuss! I have the same rod and love it. Different strokes, eh?

Yep.

Can't walk to a river in OR without tripping over someone
who insists the 10' 7wt XP is the greatest steelhead rod ever.

- JR
(out of step, as usual, I guess.....)

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I am intrigued to chime in. I have been considering a 10' 7wt rod to use
for Adirondack pike and bass. Any thoughts. I have 2 5wts but don't
think they'll cut it casting fro a boat on the lakes. I think an 8wt is
too heavy?


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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:55:25 -0400, JR wrote:

Can't walk to a river in OR without tripping over someone
who insists the 10' 7wt XP is the greatest steelhead rod ever.

I don't know about it being the "greatest", only that it serves me
well every time I use it. I've compared it to a couple of Orvis rods
and it comes out on top.

Dave

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"Peter A. Collin" wrote in message
...


Pete, by any chance is your carpal tunnel syndrome from casting?
-tom

Back in '91, I worked for a few months on a salmon farm in Maine. People
came down with carpal tunnel left and right at the place. I remember my
wrists aching so bad at night that it was hard to sleep. That is probably
what got me started, but it has been slow to progress. I recall certain
autumns when I was doing a great deal of fishing that I noticed two
fingers on my right hand were tingly. Now, I use the computer mouse with
my left hand because it gets uncomfortable with my right. Someday I will
have to get it looked at.

Pete

Pete,
we had a computer science gal here come down with cts. She thought she
could let it go and hopes that it would heal itself back to normal. It
actually
got worst. I would have a medical expert look at it asap.
good luck Pete,
-tom