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Raven456 September 28th, 2007 10:23 PM

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I literally stumbled upon this website ProjectHealingWaters.org and was
writing them a check within minutes. I would urge any person who feels
a sense of gratitude to our troops who serve and are wounded overseas
to make a donation to this cause. Being an avid fly fisher as well as a
currently serving veteran, I feel a special obligation to help any cause
that helps rehabilitate troops through fly fishing and tying. Check it
out and give what you can.


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Opus--Mark H. Bowen September 28th, 2007 11:07 PM

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Yet you remain anonymous?

Op


"Raven456" wrote in message
...

I literally stumbled upon this website ProjectHealingWaters.org and was
writing them a check within minutes. I would urge any person who feels
a sense of gratitude to our troops who serve and are wounded overseas
to make a donation to this cause. Being an avid fly fisher as well as a
currently serving veteran, I feel a special obligation to help any cause
that helps rehabilitate troops through fly fishing and tying. Check it
out and give what you can.


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Raven456[_2_] September 28th, 2007 11:41 PM

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Anonimity not by intention. I only hope that maybe a few folks will take
a look at the website and throw a few dollars their way. It seems to be
an upstart charity which is well sponsored if you looke at their site
and is run by a retired Navy Captain. I can only imagine what these
troops have to endure and know that if I ever become disabled due to a
combat action that there are a few feoolow fly fishing sportsman around
who would be there to assist in mental and emotional recovery through
thre joy of "the fly."


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Lazarus Cooke September 30th, 2007 09:13 PM

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In article , Raven456
wrote:

I literally stumbled upon this website ProjectHealingWaters.org and was
writing them a check within minutes. I would urge any person who feels
a sense of gratitude to our troops who serve and are wounded overseas
to make a donation to this cause.


Who are 'our' troops, Raven? The Moroccans who fish in the Atlas
Mountains? The Afghan guerrillas fishing in the Hindu Kush?

This is an international NG.

That said, it does look like a laudable and well-inentioned
organization, and I have a lot of sympathy for troops from any country
who have been disabled while fighting on behalf of their own state's
ruthless politicians, media barons and dumb population.

For my own part, one reason why I go fly-fishing is that I find it
intensely nerve-racking, and I use it to liven myself up after the
tedium and boredom of war-zones.

Lazarus

Ken Fortenberry[_2_] September 30th, 2007 09:37 PM

A Patriotic Charity
 
Lazarus Cooke wrote:
snip
For my own part, one reason why I go fly-fishing is that I find it
intensely nerve-racking, and I use it to liven myself up after the
tedium and boredom of war-zones.


You must live in a really bad part of town. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

Lazarus Cooke September 30th, 2007 09:49 PM

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In article , Ken
Fortenberry wrote:

Lazarus Cooke wrote:
snip
For my own part, one reason why I go fly-fishing is that I find it
intensely nerve-racking, and I use it to liven myself up after the
tedium and boredom of war-zones.


You must live in a really bad part of town. ;-)


http://www.urban75.org/brixton/featu...ng-boards.html

L

Dave LaCourse September 30th, 2007 10:21 PM

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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:49:15 +0100, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:

http://www.urban75.org/brixton/featu...ng-boards.html


We all know who the perp was in the "homophobic assault."



Ken Fortenberry[_2_] September 30th, 2007 10:42 PM

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Lazarus Cooke wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Lazarus Cooke wrote:
snip
For my own part, one reason why I go fly-fishing is that I find it
intensely nerve-racking, and I use it to liven myself up after the
tedium and boredom of war-zones.

You must live in a really bad part of town. ;-)


http://www.urban75.org/brixton/featu...ng-boards.html


Do you live on Coldharbour Lane ? If so, have you considered
moving to a nicer part of Brixton ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

Lazarus Cooke October 1st, 2007 10:05 AM

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In article , Ken
Fortenberry wrote:

Do you live on Coldharbour Lane ? If so, have you considered
moving to a nicer part of Brixton ?


I do live there. But my kids grew up in Belfast - the windows of their
bedroom blew in when the IRA bombed a nearby police station (they of
course slept through it), and I tend to work in countries that are even
more violent than England. There's an overground rail station at the
end of my street that takes me directly into the centre of town, to
Gatwick airport, or to Luton airport.

My bees can forage to their hearts' content (if bees do have hearts) on
the ivy and weeds that grow in the abandoned gardens round here.

And I can keep my Dari up to scratch here - I speak only Dari when I go
marketing at the local convenience store and greengrocer's.

I've been here so long and the area is so bad (the London Evening
Standard described our street as 'the worst street in Britain') that
I've felt that it had to start going up sometime. In fact it's started
happening. Ten years ago the upstairs apartments were occupied by some
asylum seekers and a drug smuggler. Now they've been bought by an actor
from the National Theatre and a City banker.

Lazarus

rw October 1st, 2007 01:06 PM

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Lazarus Cooke wrote:
In article , Ken
Fortenberry wrote:


Lazarus Cooke wrote:

snip
For my own part, one reason why I go fly-fishing is that I find it
intensely nerve-racking, and I use it to liven myself up after the
tedium and boredom of war-zones.


You must live in a really bad part of town. ;-)



http://www.urban75.org/brixton/featu...ng-boards.html

L


I thought that Great Britain had strict gun control. Apparently, I was
misinformed.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Lazarus Cooke October 1st, 2007 03:14 PM

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In article , rw
wrote:


http://www.urban75.org/brixton/featu...ng-boards.html

L


I thought that Great Britain had strict gun control. Apparently, I was
misinformed.


Sadly, some of the criminals round here don't always obey the law.

Even so (http://www.crimeinfo.org.uk/):

€ Pro rata, the USA has 34 times the number of homicides involving
firearms as England and Wales.

€ Switzerland and Canada have three times the number of shooting
deaths as the rate in the uk.

I just happen to live in the worst street in Britain. Although nearly
all my neighbours are very good people, many of them come from a
country where gun crime and drug dealing are rampant, and the very few
relatives they have who are gun-wielding criminals tend to gravitate to
this neck of the woods.

L

George Cleveland October 1st, 2007 04:24 PM

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On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:14:43 +0100, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:

In article , rw
wrote:


http://www.urban75.org/brixton/featu...ng-boards.html

L


I thought that Great Britain had strict gun control. Apparently, I was
misinformed.


Sadly, some of the criminals round here don't always obey the law.

Even so (http://www.crimeinfo.org.uk/):

€ Pro rata, the USA has 34 times the number of homicides involving
firearms as England and Wales.

€ Switzerland and Canada have three times the number of shooting
deaths as the rate in the uk.

I just happen to live in the worst street in Britain. Although nearly
all my neighbours are very good people, many of them come from a
country where gun crime and drug dealing are rampant, and the very few
relatives they have who are gun-wielding criminals tend to gravitate to
this neck of the woods.

L


So you're saying you have a lot of Texans living on your street...

;^)


g.c.

Red[_2_] October 2nd, 2007 12:11 AM

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In article valid,
Lazarus Cooke wrote:

In article , Raven456
wrote:

I literally stumbled upon this website ProjectHealingWaters.org and was
writing them a check within minutes. I would urge any person who feels
a sense of gratitude to our troops who serve and are wounded overseas
to make a donation to this cause.


Who are 'our' troops, Raven? The Moroccans who fish in the Atlas
Mountains? The Afghan guerrillas fishing in the Hindu Kush?

This is an international NG.


Get out of here you kiwi fruit. The internet was invented by Americans
and is for Americans. You should just kiss our asses on a daily basis
that we let you foreigners use it!

daytripper October 2nd, 2007 01:18 AM

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On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:11:29 GMT, Red wrote:

In article valid,
Lazarus Cooke wrote:

In article , Raven456
wrote:

I literally stumbled upon this website ProjectHealingWaters.org and was
writing them a check within minutes. I would urge any person who feels
a sense of gratitude to our troops who serve and are wounded overseas
to make a donation to this cause.


Who are 'our' troops, Raven? The Moroccans who fish in the Atlas
Mountains? The Afghan guerrillas fishing in the Hindu Kush?

This is an international NG.


Get out of here you kiwi fruit. The internet was invented by Americans
and is for Americans. You should just kiss our asses on a daily basis
that we let you foreigners use it!


Oh, my....

/daytripper (who can find Brixton on a map - and it ain't in New Zealand...)

Frank Reid[_2_] October 2nd, 2007 02:29 AM

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This is an international NG.

Get out of here you kiwi fruit. The internet was invented by Americans
and is for Americans. You should just kiss our asses on a daily basis
that we let you foreigners use it!


Appropriate name for the closet Communist. Hmm, likes to rabel rouse,
tries to get allies fighting each other. Yep, Red the Pinko. Let me
guess, you hate all them snotty 8th grade graduates. Old Red here is
kinda ****ed since his mother went and married that Pakistani and
kicked him outta the basement.
Frank Reid


rw October 2nd, 2007 02:38 AM

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George Cleveland wrote:
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:14:43 +0100, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:


In article , rw
wrote:



http://www.urban75.org/brixton/featu...ng-boards.html

L

I thought that Great Britain had strict gun control. Apparently, I was
misinformed.


Sadly, some of the criminals round here don't always obey the law.


Imagine that. Same here.


Even so (http://www.crimeinfo.org.uk/):

€ Pro rata, the USA has 34 times the number of homicides involving
firearms as England and Wales.


You're cherry picking. What about Scotland, huh? :-)


€ Switzerland and Canada have three times the number of shooting
deaths as the rate in the uk.


Guns are readily available in the US. I have three. I'd bet that the
average number of guns per American ROFF poster is greater than one.


I just happen to live in the worst street in Britain. Although nearly
all my neighbours are very good people, many of them come from a
country where gun crime and drug dealing are rampant, and the very few
relatives they have who are gun-wielding criminals tend to gravitate to
this neck of the woods.


It must be tough to live in a neighborhood where you're at a
disadvantage when you go unarmed. I'd move if I were you, but if for
some reason I couldn't move, I'd pack.

So you're saying you have a lot of Texans living on your street...

;^)


Good one, George.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rb608 October 2nd, 2007 03:10 PM

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On Oct 1, 7:11 pm, Red wrote:
Get out of here you kiwi fruit. The internet was invented by Americans
and is for Americans. You should just kiss our asses on a daily basis
that we let you foreigners use it!


Damn right. That's why it's written in English. Thank god for Al
Gore. :)

Joe F.


rb608 October 2nd, 2007 03:25 PM

A Patriotic Charity
 
On Oct 1, 11:24 am, George Cleveland
wrote:
So you're saying you have a lot of Texans living on your street...


It's far worse. I have a lot of Texans running my country. :)

Joe F.


Wayne Harrison October 2nd, 2007 03:50 PM

A Patriotic Charity
 

"rb608" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 1, 11:24 am, George Cleveland
wrote:
So you're saying you have a lot of Texans living on your street...


It's far worse. I have a lot of Texans running my country. :)

Joe F.


hilarious. jesus, are you on a roll, or what?

yfitons
wayno




Tim J. October 2nd, 2007 04:08 PM

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Wayne Harrison typed:
"rb608" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 1, 11:24 am, George Cleveland
wrote:
So you're saying you have a lot of Texans living on your street...


It's far worse. I have a lot of Texans running my country. :)


hilarious. jesus, are you on a roll, or what?


My thought exactly. Someone must have unleased a rim-shot machine over
Maryland.
--
TL,
Tim
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Wayne Harrison October 2nd, 2007 04:57 PM

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"Tim J." wrote

My thought exactly. Someone must have unleased a rim-shot machine over
Maryland.


yeah, and the same guy must have "unleased" the keys to someon's
spellchecker...

:)
yfitons
wayno(well, if you can't pick a nit, what *can* you pick)



Tim J. October 2nd, 2007 04:58 PM

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Wayne Harrison typed:
"Tim J." wrote

My thought exactly. Someone must have unleased a rim-shot machine
over Maryland.


yeah, and the same guy must have "unleased" the keys to someon's
spellchecker...

:)
yfitons
wayno(well, if you can't pick a nit, what *can* you pick)


I have several suggestions. . . ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
-------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Raven456[_5_] October 23rd, 2007 12:45 AM

A Patriotic Charity
 

Political satire aside, I see that the the original thought behind this
threas has been lost. I just thought that person who returns from a war
missing an arm, leg, or worse, should have the support of the fly
angling sportsmen of this country if they feel that this is a viable
way for those vets to somehow seek some solice. Take the political
bulll to another thread.


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Wolfgang October 23rd, 2007 01:24 PM

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"Raven456" wrote in message
...

...Take the political
bulll to another thread.


Or, better yet, take your political bull**** to another planet.

Moron.

Wolfgang



Rick[_5_] October 23rd, 2007 01:34 PM

A Patriotic Charity
 

"Raven456" wrote in message
...

Political satire aside, I see that the the original thought behind this
threas has been lost. I just thought that person who returns from a war
missing an arm, leg, or worse, should have the support of the fly
angling sportsmen of this country if they feel that this is a viable
way for those vets to somehow seek some solice. Take the political
bulll to another thread.


--
Raven456


Agreed, but you are going to catch hell from the liberals and the non
americans in here...

Rick



[email protected] October 23rd, 2007 02:06 PM

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On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:24:55 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote:


"Raven456" wrote in message
...

...Take the political
bulll to another thread.


Or, better yet, take your political bull**** to another planet.

Moron.

Wolfgang


All the guy was attempting to do was point out an organization that
helped wounded (US) vets via flyfishing. With the exception of the
subject header being arguably and mildly US-centric, I saw nothing in
his post that was in the least bit political, controversial, or even OT.
Even if his post had been tinged with a rah-rah "GO ARMY!" attitude, the
fact remains that the organization itself is apparently a worthy cause
for FFer's worldwide.

As per usual, YOU are the moron...

Wolfgang October 23rd, 2007 03:19 PM

A Patriotic Charity
 

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:24:55 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote:


"Raven456" wrote in message
...

...Take the political
bulll to another thread.


Or, better yet, take your political bull**** to another planet.

Moron.

Wolfgang


All the guy was attempting to do was point out an organization that
helped wounded (US) vets via flyfishing. With the exception of the
subject header being arguably and mildly US-centric, I saw nothing in
his post that was in the least bit political, controversial, or even OT.
Even if his post had been tinged with a rah-rah "GO ARMY!" attitude, the
fact remains that the organization itself is apparently a worthy cause
for FFer's worldwide.

As per usual, YOU are the moron...


So, what you're saying is that they don't teach basic reading skills at the
southern Mississippi school of what-not-all?

We knew that.

Wolfgang



jeff October 24th, 2007 12:41 PM

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Rick wrote:
"Raven456" wrote in message
...

Political satire aside, I see that the the original thought behind this
threas has been lost. I just thought that person who returns from a war
missing an arm, leg, or worse, should have the support of the fly
angling sportsmen of this country if they feel that this is a viable
way for those vets to somehow seek some solice. Take the political
bulll to another thread.


--
Raven456



Agreed, but you are going to catch hell from the liberals and the non
americans in here...

Rick



"liberals and non americans" ... jeez. what a "pantload".

soundbite, superficial, sophomoric ****. all too typical of non
liberals and americans.

jeff

Tim J. October 24th, 2007 12:57 PM

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jeff typed:
Rick wrote:
"Raven456" wrote in message
...

Political satire aside, I see that the the original thought behind
this threas has been lost. I just thought that person who returns
from a war missing an arm, leg, or worse, should have the support
of the fly angling sportsmen of this country if they feel that this
is a viable way for those vets to somehow seek some solice. Take
the political bulll to another thread.


Agreed, but you are going to catch hell from the liberals and the non
americans in here...


"liberals and non americans" ... jeez. what a "pantload".


Uh, he could have meant those in this group who are not residents of the
USA.

soundbite, superficial, sophomoric ****. all too typical of non
liberals and americans.


.. . . or there's that possibility.
--
TL,
Tim
-------------------------
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Rick[_5_] October 24th, 2007 01:32 PM

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"Tim J." wrote in message
...
jeff typed:
Rick wrote:
"Raven456" wrote in message
...

Agreed, but you are going to catch hell from the liberals and the non
americans in here...


"liberals and non americans" ... jeez. what a "pantload".


Uh, he could have meant those in this group who are not residents of the
USA.


Yeppers, that was exactly what I going for.. Just didnt come across that
way I guess

soundbite, superficial, sophomoric ****. all too typical of non
liberals and americans.


. . . or there's that possibility.
--
TL,
Tim



Well It was the first one, but hey take it any way you want I guess.. I am
easy :-)

Rick



Opus--Mark H. Bowen October 25th, 2007 02:52 AM

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"Rick" lanr-at-centurytel.net wrote in message
et...

"Tim J." wrote in message
...
jeff typed:
Rick wrote:
"Raven456" wrote in message
...

Agreed, but you are going to catch hell from the liberals and the non
americans in here...

"liberals and non americans" ... jeez. what a "pantload".


Uh, he could have meant those in this group who are not residents of the
USA.


Yeppers, that was exactly what I going for.. Just didnt come across that
way I guess

soundbite, superficial, sophomoric ****. all too typical of non
liberals and americans.


. . . or there's that possibility.
--
TL,
Tim



Well It was the first one, but hey take it any way you want I guess.. I am
easy :-)

Rick


So, you're a liberal prostitute?

Op



Rick[_5_] October 25th, 2007 03:24 AM

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"Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote in message
...


So, you're a liberal prostitute?

Op


Nope just a prostitute :-) Lol

Rick



Rick[_5_] October 25th, 2007 02:13 PM

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"Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote in message
...


So, you're a liberal prostitute?

Op



the day I become a liberal is the day I wish to stop living. Proud to be
teaching my kids that liberalism is like cancer. It slowly eats away at good
healthy people

Rick



Ken Fortenberry[_3_] October 25th, 2007 02:19 PM

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Rick wrote:

the day I become a liberal is the day I wish to stop living. Proud to be
teaching my kids that liberalism is like cancer. It slowly eats away at good
healthy people


You don't have to teach them anything, just make sure they
don't ever get any more education than you had.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Tim J. October 25th, 2007 02:21 PM

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Rick typed:
"Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote in message
...


So, you're a liberal prostitute?


the day I become a liberal is the day I wish to stop living. Proud
to be teaching my kids that liberalism is like cancer. It slowly eats
away at good healthy people


So . . . is the next lesson in tolerance?
--
TL,
Tim
-------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Scott Seidman October 25th, 2007 02:49 PM

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"Rick" lanr-at-centurytel.net wrote in
et:

the day I become a liberal is the day I wish to stop living. Proud
to be
teaching my kids that liberalism is like cancer. It slowly eats away
at good healthy people

Rick



A liberal is a conservative who's been arrested.

--
Scott
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Conan The Librarian October 25th, 2007 03:02 PM

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Rick wrote:

the day I become a liberal is the day I wish to stop living.


As a liberal, let me say that I'm in total agreement.

Proud to be
teaching my kids that liberalism is like cancer. It slowly eats away at good
healthy people


Proud to have taught my kids to think for themselves and to not
accept stupid, simplistic overgeneralizations about any particular group.


Chuck Vance






Wolfgang October 25th, 2007 03:39 PM

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"Rick" lanr-at-centurytel.net wrote in message
et...

the day I become a liberal is the day I wish to stop living.


And it hasn't occurred to you that taking preemptive action would negate the
possibility of such a dire fate ever occuring?

Proud to be teaching my kids that liberalism is like cancer. It slowly
eats away at good healthy people


Kids? So, you've already ****ed in the gene pool.

Pity.

Wolfgang



Rick[_5_] October 25th, 2007 06:47 PM

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"Rick" lanr-at-centurytel.net wrote in message
et...

the day I become a liberal is the day I wish to stop living.


And it hasn't occurred to you that taking preemptive action would negate
the possibility of such a dire fate ever occuring?

Proud to be teaching my kids that liberalism is like cancer. It slowly
eats away at good healthy people


Kids? So, you've already ****ed in the gene pool.

Pity.

Wolfgang


Wolfy, proud to have 7 very conservative children... Proud to see what they
have been able to accomplish in life. Honor roll students so far. Oldest one
is getting a full ride to college on scholarships. Not afraid to pick up and
shoot a handgun or rifle. Knows what it is to be able to show proper gun
control = hitting target :-)

They unlike a liberal, know what it means to take responsibility for their
own actions and not blame in on society or anyone else. They know that if
they did it, they and they alone are responsible for the outcome. great
bunch of republicans they will be.



But The thought of you adding anything to the gene pool has me wanting to
add a lot of chlorine to the pool..



Rick




Rick[_5_] October 25th, 2007 06:51 PM

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
t...
Rick wrote:

the day I become a liberal is the day I wish to stop living. Proud to
be teaching my kids that liberalism is like cancer. It slowly eats away
at good healthy people


You don't have to teach them anything, just make sure they
don't ever get any more education than you had.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Not worried about that. The oldest one will no doubt go futher in college
than I did. Just proud to see they can think for themselves and the fact
that then know how to hunt and fish and can take care of themselves lets me
know I did my job as well as my wife.

Although I think the 2nd to youngest will end up being a better shot than I
:-)

But all joking aside, I know they will go far in life and they know that
they have to earn what they get out of life. None of them expect handouts
and they all work hard for everything they want.

Rick




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