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Robert11 October 8th, 2007 06:43 PM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
Hi,

Maybe I'm dating myself as I'm in my 70's now, but, boy, Orvis sure doesn't
seem to be the outfit it once was.

Tried on the web to get some catalogs about six weeks ago so I could use a
gift cert. I got as a present.
Never came.

So, I called the phone number, and got a very nice lady who promised they
would go out immediately. That was over two weeks ago.

So, all in all, I've been trying to get some of their catalogs for close to
two months now.

In the "old" days" the catalogs requested always showed up in about a week;
sometime only a few days.

What's happened to them ?
Have they farmed out all their mail distributions and customer service to
India, or somewhere ?

Really annoying, as I want to use up the gift cert.

They could sure learn a lot from L. L. Bean, who handles this sort of thing
just great.

Anyone know an e-mail address for the Perkins Jr. who is running the show
now, by any chance ? Or some VP who might take this seriously ?

Thanks,
Bob



LouF[_3_] October 8th, 2007 06:52 PM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
Unless you need a pair of pink courdurouys, a $700.00 t-shirt, or a $500.00
xmas ornament, I would avoid orvis
"Robert11" wrote in message
. ..
Hi,

Maybe I'm dating myself as I'm in my 70's now, but, boy, Orvis sure

doesn't
seem to be the outfit it once was.

Tried on the web to get some catalogs about six weeks ago so I could use a
gift cert. I got as a present.
Never came.

So, I called the phone number, and got a very nice lady who promised they
would go out immediately. That was over two weeks ago.

So, all in all, I've been trying to get some of their catalogs for close

to
two months now.

In the "old" days" the catalogs requested always showed up in about a

week;
sometime only a few days.

What's happened to them ?
Have they farmed out all their mail distributions and customer service to
India, or somewhere ?

Really annoying, as I want to use up the gift cert.

They could sure learn a lot from L. L. Bean, who handles this sort of

thing
just great.

Anyone know an e-mail address for the Perkins Jr. who is running the show
now, by any chance ? Or some VP who might take this seriously ?

Thanks,
Bob





Tim J. October 8th, 2007 07:06 PM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
Robert11 typed:
Hi,

Maybe I'm dating myself as I'm in my 70's now, but, boy, Orvis sure
doesn't seem to be the outfit it once was.

Tried on the web to get some catalogs about six weeks ago so I could
use a gift cert. I got as a present.
Never came.

So, I called the phone number, and got a very nice lady who promised
they would go out immediately. That was over two weeks ago.

So, all in all, I've been trying to get some of their catalogs for
close to two months now.

In the "old" days" the catalogs requested always showed up in about a
week; sometime only a few days.

What's happened to them ?
Have they farmed out all their mail distributions and customer
service to India, or somewhere ?

Really annoying, as I want to use up the gift cert.

They could sure learn a lot from L. L. Bean, who handles this sort of
thing just great.

Anyone know an e-mail address for the Perkins Jr. who is running the
show now, by any chance ? Or some VP who might take this seriously ?


---------------------
Juliana Rowe [Orvis]: I would be happy to assist you with this, Tim. Please
accept my sincerest apologies that you have not received the catalogs
requested.

Juliana Rowe: If I may please have your full address and last name, I will
personally have the catalogs sent right away.
Tim: It's not me, but another poster on a newsgroup. I'd like to post your
response, if that's okay. What should I tell him?

Juliana Rowe: If he either comes into chat or emails, at
, with his full address and the catalogs that he
would like to receive, we will have them sent right away. It is possible
that when he requested them previously, the address was entered incorrectly
or that they were held at the post office for some reason.

Juliana Rowe: Customer service is very important to us and we would like to
take care of this matter.

Tim: Thanks, Juliana. I've always received great service from Orvis, so I'll
let him know to give it another shot.
----------------------
Let us know how you make out, Bob.
--
TL,
Tim
-------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Tom Nakashima October 8th, 2007 07:06 PM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 

"Robert11" wrote in message
. ..
Hi,

Maybe I'm dating myself as I'm in my 70's now, but, boy, Orvis sure
doesn't seem to be the outfit it once was.

Tried on the web to get some catalogs about six weeks ago so I could use a
gift cert. I got as a present.
Never came.

So, I called the phone number, and got a very nice lady who promised they
would go out immediately. That was over two weeks ago.

So, all in all, I've been trying to get some of their catalogs for close
to two months now.

In the "old" days" the catalogs requested always showed up in about a
week; sometime only a few days.

What's happened to them ?
Have they farmed out all their mail distributions and customer service to
India, or somewhere ?

Really annoying, as I want to use up the gift cert.

They could sure learn a lot from L. L. Bean, who handles this sort of
thing just great.

Anyone know an e-mail address for the Perkins Jr. who is running the show
now, by any chance ? Or some VP who might take this seriously ?

Thanks,
Bob


Orvis online catalog request form:
https://www.orvis.com/store/catalogrequest.aspx?bhcp=1
-tom



Tim J. October 8th, 2007 07:07 PM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
LouF typed:
"Robert11" wrote in message
. ..
Hi,

Maybe I'm dating myself as I'm in my 70's now, but, boy, Orvis sure
doesn't seem to be the outfit it once was.

Tried on the web to get some catalogs about six weeks ago so I could
use a gift cert. I got as a present.
Never came.

So, I called the phone number, and got a very nice lady who promised
they would go out immediately. That was over two weeks ago.

So, all in all, I've been trying to get some of their catalogs for
close to two months now.

In the "old" days" the catalogs requested always showed up in about
a week; sometime only a few days.

What's happened to them ?
Have they farmed out all their mail distributions and customer
service to India, or somewhere ?

Really annoying, as I want to use up the gift cert.

They could sure learn a lot from L. L. Bean, who handles this sort
of thing just great.

Anyone know an e-mail address for the Perkins Jr. who is running the
show now, by any chance ? Or some VP who might take this seriously ?

Unless you need a pair of pink courdurouys, a $700.00 t-shirt, or a
$500.00 xmas ornament, I would avoid orvis


What should he do with the gift certificate, Lou? ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
-------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Denis Lamy October 8th, 2007 07:18 PM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
Tim J. a écrit :

Juliana Rowe: or that they were held at the post office for some reason.

It happened to me once, I had to order catalogs until all postmans in my
district had one. :-|

--
Hope to read you soon,

Denis
www.uqtr.ca/~lamyd

You'll have to eat the SPAM to E-mail

LouF[_3_] October 8th, 2007 07:41 PM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
With the GC and another $50.00 he can get a flannel tea cozy
"Tim J." wrote in message
...
LouF typed:
"Robert11" wrote in message
. ..
Hi,

Maybe I'm dating myself as I'm in my 70's now, but, boy, Orvis sure
doesn't seem to be the outfit it once was.

Tried on the web to get some catalogs about six weeks ago so I could
use a gift cert. I got as a present.
Never came.

So, I called the phone number, and got a very nice lady who promised
they would go out immediately. That was over two weeks ago.

So, all in all, I've been trying to get some of their catalogs for
close to two months now.

In the "old" days" the catalogs requested always showed up in about
a week; sometime only a few days.

What's happened to them ?
Have they farmed out all their mail distributions and customer
service to India, or somewhere ?

Really annoying, as I want to use up the gift cert.

They could sure learn a lot from L. L. Bean, who handles this sort
of thing just great.

Anyone know an e-mail address for the Perkins Jr. who is running the
show now, by any chance ? Or some VP who might take this seriously ?

Unless you need a pair of pink courdurouys, a $700.00 t-shirt, or a
$500.00 xmas ornament, I would avoid orvis


What should he do with the gift certificate, Lou? ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
-------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj





Tim J. October 8th, 2007 08:32 PM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
Denis Lamy typed:
Tim J. a écrit :

Juliana Rowe: or that they were held at the post office for some
reason.

It happened to me once, I had to order catalogs until all postmans in
my district had one. :-|


Hi Denis - I hope all is well. They're asking about you over at ASC. . .

.. . . at least I *think* this is the same Denis.
--
TL,
Tim
-------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Dave LaCourse October 8th, 2007 09:55 PM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:06:29 -0400, "Tim J."
wrote:

Tim: Thanks, Juliana. I've always received great service from Orvis, so I'll
let him know to give it another shot.
----------------------
Let us know how you make out, Bob.


That is what makes this place beautiful.
Thanks, Tim.

As far as catalogs, I get one from Orvis practically every month.
With Christmas coming, I'm expecting at least three, maybe four.



DoubleHaul[_7_] October 8th, 2007 10:11 PM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 

I sent them an e-mail a year or so ago, telling them what lousy service
I got in the Lake George outlet store. I signed it with my name & home
town. The next day I had a message on my machine to please call them
back at corporate in Manchester, VT. I did & they were very
apologetic, wanted to shower me with coupons & gift certs. "No thanks,
just have somebody wait on me next time I come in." They do. I don't
buy a lot of stuff there. They mostly have expensive clothing for the
tourists.


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Ken Fortenberry[_2_] October 8th, 2007 10:28 PM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
Robert11 wrote:
Hi,

Maybe I'm dating myself as I'm in my 70's now, but, boy, Orvis sure doesn't
seem to be the outfit it once was.


Yeah, I guess you are dating yourself. Why would you need a
paper catalog just to use a gift certificate ? Orvis has a
fully functional and quite complete web based catalog that
is easy to browse and order from. Welcome to the 21st century,
or wait for the US post office to deliver bulk mail, your
choice.

--
Ken Fortenberry

MajorOz October 8th, 2007 10:47 PM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
On Oct 8, 4:28 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Robert11 wrote:
Hi,


Maybe I'm dating myself as I'm in my 70's now, but, boy, Orvis sure doesn't
seem to be the outfit it once was.


Yeah, I guess you are dating yourself. Why would you need a
paper catalog just to use a gift certificate ? Orvis has a
fully functional and quite complete web based catalog that
is easy to browse and order from. Welcome to the 21st century,
or wait for the US post office to deliver bulk mail, your
choice.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Mayhap he views catalogs as do I -- sit near the fire, a couple ounces
of single malt at hand, and browse.
If you know the name, address, part number, and model, on-line can be
efficient. Some of life's pleasures, however, do not depend on
efficiency.
If they all did, I would use PowerBait.

cheers

oz, who has always been underwhelmed by the Orvis mystique


Ken Fortenberry[_2_] October 8th, 2007 11:04 PM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
MajorOz wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Robert11 wrote:
Hi,
Maybe I'm dating myself as I'm in my 70's now, but, boy, Orvis sure doesn't
seem to be the outfit it once was. ...

Yeah, I guess you are dating yourself. Why would you need a
paper catalog just to use a gift certificate ? Orvis has a
fully functional and quite complete web based catalog that
is easy to browse and order from. Welcome to the 21st century,
or wait for the US post office to deliver bulk mail, your
choice.


Mayhap he views catalogs as do I -- sit near the fire, a couple ounces
of single malt at hand, and browse.
If you know the name, address, part number, and model, on-line can be
efficient. Some of life's pleasures, however, do not depend on
efficiency.
If they all did, I would use PowerBait.


That's all nice enough and once Robert starts getting Orvis
paper catalogs he will continue to get them just like clockwork.
The problem here is that Robert is badmouthing Orvis for a
post office issue. Catalogs are not sent first class mail, they
go out bulk mail and waiting two months to get on a catalog
mailing list in the first place and than actually receiving a
catalog through bulk mail is not a long time to wait. If he's
in that a big a hurry he should use his gift certificate online.

I like paper catalogs better than web pages too but I'd go ahead
and use the web if I was gonna get my little tightie whities all
in a wad about an unused gift certificate.

--
Ken Fortenberry

daytripper October 8th, 2007 11:18 PM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:12:01 -0700, rw
wrote:

It never was.


No, it was, once upon a time, long, long ago, in New England...

/daytripper (who fondly remembers the Wayland Orvis Store)

Peter Charles October 8th, 2007 11:32 PM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:06:29 -0400, "Tim J."
wrote:

Tim: Thanks, Juliana. I've always received great service from Orvis, so
I'll
let him know to give it another shot.
----------------------
Let us know how you make out, Bob.


That is what makes this place beautiful.
Thanks, Tim.

As far as catalogs, I get one from Orvis practically every month.
With Christmas coming, I'm expecting at least three, maybe four.



That's 'cause your real name is Orv.......

Peter


rw October 9th, 2007 12:12 AM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
It never was.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

BJ Conner October 9th, 2007 12:43 AM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
On Oct 8, 10:43 am, "Robert11" wrote:
Hi,

Maybe I'm dating myself as I'm in my 70's now, but, boy, Orvis sure doesn't
seem to be the outfit it once was.

Tried on the web to get some catalogs about six weeks ago so I could use a
gift cert. I got as a present.
Never came.

So, I called the phone number, and got a very nice lady who promised they
would go out immediately. That was over two weeks ago.

So, all in all, I've been trying to get some of their catalogs for close to
two months now.

In the "old" days" the catalogs requested always showed up in about a week;
sometime only a few days.

What's happened to them ?
Have they farmed out all their mail distributions and customer service to
India, or somewhere ?

Really annoying, as I want to use up the gift cert.

They could sure learn a lot from L. L. Bean, who handles this sort of thing
just great.

Anyone know an e-mail address for the Perkins Jr. who is running the show
now, by any chance ? Or some VP who might take this seriously ?

Thanks,
Bob


Orvis has got to be one of the major destroyers of trees on the
planet. I get fishing catalogs, clothing catalogs, hunting catalogs,
dog catalogs, womens clothing catalogs, furniture catalogs etc. I
never know what kind their going to come up with next.
I got a catlog sometime this spring with a flyer for the 20 most
popular fly patterns in the US, they were only 9.95 so I bought
two.
When they arrived promptly ( Orvis sent me 3 or 4 emails on the
status of the shipment) I was supprized to find out they wern't made
in China ( they were tied in Kenya). I bought 4 more for Christams
gifts. The new rule in our family is nothing made in China and
nothing with a cord ( redundant as most things with a cord are made in
China).
Proabably done shopping as the only thing still made here is money and
I expect to read any day that it's being printed in China.


Bob La Londe October 9th, 2007 01:28 AM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
MajorOz wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Robert11 wrote:
Hi,
Maybe I'm dating myself as I'm in my 70's now, but, boy, Orvis sure

doesn't
seem to be the outfit it once was. ...
Yeah, I guess you are dating yourself. Why would you need a
paper catalog just to use a gift certificate ? Orvis has a
fully functional and quite complete web based catalog that
is easy to browse and order from. Welcome to the 21st century,
or wait for the US post office to deliver bulk mail, your
choice.


Mayhap he views catalogs as do I -- sit near the fire, a couple ounces
of single malt at hand, and browse.
If you know the name, address, part number, and model, on-line can be
efficient. Some of life's pleasures, however, do not depend on
efficiency.
If they all did, I would use PowerBait.


That's all nice enough and once Robert starts getting Orvis
paper catalogs he will continue to get them just like clockwork.
The problem here is that Robert is badmouthing Orvis for a
post office issue. Catalogs are not sent first class mail, they
go out bulk mail and waiting two months to get on a catalog
mailing list in the first place and than actually receiving a
catalog through bulk mail is not a long time to wait. If he's
in that a big a hurry he should use his gift certificate online.

I like paper catalogs better than web pages too but I'd go ahead
and use the web if I was gonna get my little tightie whities all
in a wad about an unused gift certificate.


Uh-huh... If I ask for a Bass Pro Shops catalog I get it within a week. Is
this one of those times when I can get myself int rouble and give you a hard
time about your languishing in the extended moment instead of anxiously
waiting for the climactic moment of the catalog arrival.

Dang Ken. I think your legs are getting longer.






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Bob La Londe October 9th, 2007 01:32 AM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
"BJ Conner" wrote in message
When they arrived promptly ( Orvis sent me 3 or 4 emails on the
status of the shipment) I was supprized to find out they wern't made
in China ( they were tied in Kenya).


There is a guy from Kenya I Yahoo-IM from time to time who ties
commercially. I wonder if he made them? He keeps trying to get me to go
sell flies for him. LOL. I told him if he tied rubber crawdads and curly
tail crubs I might could help him out, but most of my fishing buddies think
a barrel cast is what caused the Thunderbirds to crash.








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Ken Fortenberry[_2_] October 9th, 2007 02:50 AM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
snip
I like paper catalogs better than web pages too but I'd go ahead
and use the web if I was gonna get my little tightie whities all
in a wad about an unused gift certificate.


Uh-huh... If I ask for a Bass Pro Shops catalog I get it within a week. Is
this one of those times when I can get myself int rouble and give you a hard
time about your languishing in the extended moment instead of anxiously
waiting for the climactic moment of the catalog arrival.


Are you responding to my post or jacking off ?

Dang Ken. I think your legs are getting longer.


Uh, ... thanks ..., I think.

--
Ken Fortenberry

rw October 9th, 2007 02:56 AM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
I'd like them to stop sending their frigging catalogs.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Wolfgang October 9th, 2007 04:04 PM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...

I like paper catalogs better than web pages too but I'd go ahead
and use the web if I was gonna get my little tightie whities all
in a wad about an unused gift certificate.


Leaving one to wonder what should be done about getting your panties in a
bunch about someone else's unused gift certificate.

Wolfgang



Dave LaCourse October 10th, 2007 01:00 AM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:32:22 -0400, "Peter Charles"
wrote:

That's 'cause your real name is Orv.......


d;o)



Julie October 10th, 2007 07:05 AM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
In article ,
"LouF" wrote:

Unless you need a pair of pink courdurouys, a $700.00 t-shirt, or a $500.00
xmas ornament, I would avoid orvis


Orvis can be ok. For instance right now they have the battenkill
barstock large arbor on sale for $99.

Denis Lamy October 10th, 2007 01:21 PM

Orvis: Sure Isn't The Outfit It Once Was
 
Tim J. a écrit :
Denis Lamy typed:
Tim J. a écrit :

Juliana Rowe: or that they were held at the post office for some
reason.

It happened to me once, I had to order catalogs until all postmans in
my district had one. :-|


Hi Denis - I hope all is well. They're asking about you over at ASC. . .

. . . at least I *think* this is the same Denis.


Hi Tim,

I've got too much work, so I'm mostly on lurking mode in both newsgroup.

Say hi to the gang for me. ;-)

--
Hope to read you soon,

Denis
www.uqtr.ca/~lamyd

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