Simms Aquastealth?
 

For next season, I was thinking of purchasing new wading boots.
I noticed Simms has a new sole for their boots called Aquastealth,
aside from their felt and studded felt soles.
From the Simms description, you can walk on land and in water.
I do a lot of backpacking and thought here's a chance to get a
hybrid boot.
Anyone know about the Aquastealth soles?
-tom

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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:08:04 -0700, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:

For next season, I was thinking of purchasing new wading boots.
I noticed Simms has a new sole for their boots called Aquastealth,
aside from their felt and studded felt soles.
From the Simms description, you can walk on land and in water.
I do a lot of backpacking and thought here's a chance to get a
hybrid boot.
Anyone know about the Aquastealth soles?
-tom

Aquastealth "new"? I thought it had been around for a few years...

/daytripper

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"daytripper" wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:08:04 -0700, "Tom Nakashima"

wrote:

For next season, I was thinking of purchasing new wading boots.
I noticed Simms has a new sole for their boots called Aquastealth,
aside from their felt and studded felt soles.
From the Simms description, you can walk on land and in water.
I do a lot of backpacking and thought here's a chance to get a
hybrid boot.
Anyone know about the Aquastealth soles?
-tom

Aquastealth "new"? I thought it had been around for a few years...

/daytripper

Maybe they have, I saw the Simms L2 wading boot yesterday.
Nice and light with the aquastealth sole.
-tom

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daytripper typed:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:08:04 -0700, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:

For next season, I was thinking of purchasing new wading boots.
I noticed Simms has a new sole for their boots called Aquastealth,
aside from their felt and studded felt soles.
From the Simms description, you can walk on land and in water.
I do a lot of backpacking and thought here's a chance to get a
hybrid boot.
Anyone know about the Aquastealth soles?

Aquastealth "new"? I thought it had been around for a few years...

Yeah, and IIRC, it received about 75% negative and 25% positive reviews on
ROFF - damned near a consensus in these here parts.
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:08:04 -0700, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:

For next season, I was thinking of purchasing new wading boots.
I noticed Simms has a new sole for their boots called Aquastealth,
aside from their felt and studded felt soles.
From the Simms description, you can walk on land and in water.
I do a lot of backpacking and thought here's a chance to get a
hybrid boot.
Anyone know about the Aquastealth soles?
-tom



I bought a pair of LL Bean's aquastealth about five or six years ago.
I wore them only a few times. They are great for hiking/walking, but
were just too slippery for this old man. I fall enough with felt
soles. Aquastealth were just too dangerous for me.

Having said that, there will probably be another pair of some kind of
sole other than felt in my life. Diddymo (rock snot) is thought to be
transferred from stream to stream via felt sole boots (among other
ways).

Dave
(Home safely from Petit LeMans)

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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:08:04 -0700, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:

For next season, I was thinking of purchasing new wading boots.
I noticed Simms has a new sole for their boots called Aquastealth,
aside from their felt and studded felt soles.
From the Simms description, you can walk on land and in water.
I do a lot of backpacking and thought here's a chance to get a
hybrid boot.
Anyone know about the Aquastealth soles?
-tom



I bought a pair of LL Bean's aquastealth about five or six years ago.
I wore them only a few times. They are great for hiking/walking, but
were just too slippery for this old man. I fall enough with felt
soles. Aquastealth were just too dangerous for me.

Having said that, there will probably be another pair of some kind of
sole other than felt in my life. Diddymo (rock snot) is thought to be
transferred from stream to stream via felt sole boots (among other
ways).

Dave
(Home safely from Petit LeMans)



Thanks Dave for your report.
I'm not sure if technology has gotten better with the Aquastealth compound
over the years, but I've been reading good reviews online on the Simms L2
boot. I'm looking for something lightweight, and dual purpose would be nice.

I'm sure Simms also read those older negative reviews on the LL Bean Aqua
Stealth, and would surprise me if they wanted a repeat. I also noticed Simms
Aquastealth is "one" word from Bean's version.
I may spring for it before I hit the McCloud and Trinity this year.
-tom

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"Tom Nakashima" wrote in news:fej4e5$rnh$1
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For next season, I was thinking of purchasing new wading boots.
I noticed Simms has a new sole for their boots called Aquastealth,
aside from their felt and studded felt soles.
From the Simms description, you can walk on land and in water.
I do a lot of backpacking and thought here's a chance to get a
hybrid boot.
Anyone know about the Aquastealth soles?
-tom





I have studded Aquastealth on my LL Bean boots, and love it. I don't
think I'd love it if it weren't studded, though. I also hate the laces
on the boot, but that's a different story, and I think Bean has
redesigned it.

It's great for winter, too, as its grippier than lugs, and doesn't ice up
like felts.

My own opinion is that its a wading boot, though, and I wouldn't want to
do major hiking in it.

If I might make a suggestion, if Bean still uses the stuff, they make a
fine boot, and have a satisfaction guarantee that can't be beat. Buy a
Bean boot, and return it if you're less than thrilled.


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Tom Nakashima wrote:
For next season, I was thinking of purchasing new wading boots.
I noticed Simms has a new sole for their boots called Aquastealth,
aside from their felt and studded felt soles.
From the Simms description, you can walk on land and in water.
I do a lot of backpacking and thought here's a chance to get a
hybrid boot.
Anyone know about the Aquastealth soles?
-tom

I use lightweight Simms boots with Aquastealth soles and removable studs
(sheet metal screws). The studs, which are easily and cheaply
replaceable, give good traction (though not as good as permanent carbide
studs) and the Aqua stealth wears FAR better than felt. I can take the
studs out when I'm rafting (e.g., Alaska).

All in all, I feel these boots are the best compromise I've found for
light weight, durability, traction, and flexibility of use.

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"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
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For next season, I was thinking of purchasing new wading boots.
I noticed Simms has a new sole for their boots called Aquastealth,
aside from their felt and studded felt soles.
From the Simms description, you can walk on land and in water.
I do a lot of backpacking and thought here's a chance to get a
hybrid boot.
Anyone know about the Aquastealth soles?

As others implied, the Simms Aquastealth is not new. It's been out for
several years now.

But as to your request, I have the same boots Steve (rw) owns with the
removable screws. I echo and agree with everything he said. For comparison I
also have the Chota felts with the removable screws also and the Simms are
much more comfortable and with the screws in, just as stable.

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rw wrote in news:470d38e3$0$17049
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All in all, I feel these boots are the best compromise I've found for
light weight, durability, traction, and flexibility of use.


How would you feel about wearing them with a heavy sock and bushwacking for
a few miles? A day of walking?


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Tom Nakashima wrote:
For next season, I was thinking of purchasing new wading boots.
I noticed Simms has a new sole for their boots called Aquastealth,
aside from their felt and studded felt soles.
From the Simms description, you can walk on land and in water.
I do a lot of backpacking and thought here's a chance to get a
hybrid boot.
Anyone know about the Aquastealth soles?
-tom



I owned the LL Bean version. I doubt Simms has changed the nature of
the aquastealth sole. However, mine did not have studs, so my opinion
is based on the non-studded variety. I don't like studded boots because
I've never had a comfortable pair and I tend to walk a lot on varied
terrain when fishing.

IMO, Aquastealth wading boots without studs are a prescription for
certain injury and near-death for the NC trout streams, Penns, the
Rapid, and similar waters... You could probably make them work in the
relatively easy wading streams of Montana, or if you are going to find a
spot to park on, but I wouldn't want to hazard them on some of the other
streams out there (i.e., Indian Creek, Three-Day Creek). I think they
are much too slippery for reasonable use in any stream that requires
gripping by the sole on the underwater rocks.

jeff

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I've got two pairs of studded Aquastealth boots with permanent
non-replaceable studs molded right into the soles. Simms Guide Boot and
LL Bean River Tread ( or whatever they called it 10 years ago).

Pros:
- Good for hiking, brush crashing, muddy trails, steep banks.
- No snow or ice build up.
- Reduced chance of transporting diseases/critters.Cons:
- I have fallen a few times in 10 years. (55 year old fat klutz)
Twice in one day on the snottiest river bottom in Oregon, the Grand
Rhonde. Once on the Salmon River, Pulaski, when I stepped on my self.
- The guides have a hissy fit when you climb in their drift boat with
studs. Whiners!LL Bean has top notch customer service. They replaced the boots when I
wore the studs down below the surface of the sole. No experience with
Simms. So far so good. However, my new waders are goretex bootfoot with
felt.


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On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:51:11 -0400, Bert Brehm
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The guides have a hissy fit when you climb in their drift boat with
studs. Whiners

Whiners? Hell, you'd be lucky to get into a drift boat with studs on.
Never heard of anyone allowing that and I've drifted a helluva lots of
rivers around the world.

Dave

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Whiners? Hell, you'd be lucky to get into a drift boat with studs on.
Never heard of anyone allowing that and I've drifted a helluva lots of
rivers around the world.


My outfitter on the Salmon carpeted his boat. Studs are no problem


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On 11 Oct 2007 22:00:07 GMT, Scott Seidman
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My outfitter on the Salmon carpeted his boat. Studs are no problem

I've been in carpeted boats. The guide *still* didn't want you to
wear studs. I find studs very slippery when rock hopping on dry
rocks. I know, I know.... I'm too old to hop rocks.....
The removable studs seem to be a nice alternative.

Dave

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as long as we're on the topic...sort of...can anyone recommend a rubber
bottom boot for hiking in and wet-wading with removable/replaceable
studs? i've looked around a bit but haven found much.


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Dave LaCourse;96066 Wrote:
Whiners? Hell, you'd be lucky to
get into a drift boat with studs on. Never heard of anyone allowing
that and I've drifted a helluva lots of rivers around the world.

Dave, I'm sure you've been more places than me, but I've done it a
couple of times. Wayne Aldridge, from West Branch Anglers, winced and
then grabbed the door mat from the front porch of my cabin. Fit real
nice on the floor ahead of the front seat. Eezee peezee.

Now, I carry a door mat in my Expedition 7x24 just to throw on the
ground while I peel off my waders. Better than standing in gravel or
mud in my socks or wrecking the stocking feet on the breathables.




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Bert Brehm wrote:

Now, I carry a door mat in my Expedition 7x24 just to throw on the
ground while I peel off my waders. Better than standing in gravel or
mud in my socks or wrecking the stocking feet on the breathables.

Golly.

But, gee, do you put a tarp or something down first to keep your
door mat from getting dirty?

- JR

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JR;96092 Wrote:
Golly.

But, gee, do you put a tarp or something down first to keep your
door mat from getting dirty?

- JR

Good idea, Junior. Easy way to clean up all that shredded fiberglass
from the bottom of my studded boots. :rolleyes:


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Bert Brehm wrote:
JR;96092 Wrote:
Golly.

But, gee, do you put a tarp or something down first to keep your
door mat from getting dirty?

Good idea, Junior. Easy way to clean up all that shredded fiberglass
from the bottom of my studded boots. :rolleyes:


:rolleyes:, indeed.

"Junior". Oh my.

What is it with NJ, anyway?

- JR

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Tom Nakashima wrote:

For next season, I was thinking of purchasing new wading boots.
I noticed Simms has a new sole for their boots called Aquastealth,
aside from their felt and studded felt soles.
From the Simms description, you can walk on land and in water.
I do a lot of backpacking and thought here's a chance to get a
hybrid boot.

I've owned a pair for a couple of seasons - and love them. Perhaps I
purchase cheap shoes and sneakers - but I think these boots, even when worn
the first time, are more comfortable than the running shoes I have. For
me, they also seem to dry quite quickly, too.

I enjoy a bit of hiking myself and wouldn't want to do much hiking in these
boots though. It depends on the terrain you might be hiking, I guess. For
hiking, I picked up a pair of "Hi-Tec Altitude IV" boots that are
reasonably priced at 130.00 here in Southern Ontario that quite nicely
handle some of my hikes along the Bruce Trail.

On another note, not sure I'd want to be doing much hiking while wearing
waders and the Simms boots regardless of how comfortable they are. It would
be a bitch during the warm months to be hiking distances with waders not to
mention greater risks of punctures in the waders.

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"JR" wrote in message
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Bert Brehm wrote:
JR;96092 Wrote:
Golly.

But, gee, do you put a tarp or something down first to keep your
door mat from getting dirty?

Good idea, Junior. Easy way to clean up all that shredded fiberglass
from the bottom of my studded boots. :rolleyes:


:rolleyes:, indeed.

"Junior". Oh my.

What is it with NJ, anyway?

Gardeners. They know all about how to keep their knees from getting dirty.

Wolfgang

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Tom Nakashima wrote:
For next season, I was thinking of purchasing new wading boots.
I noticed Simms has a new sole for their boots called Aquastealth,
aside from their felt and studded felt soles.
From the Simms description, you can walk on land and in water.
I do a lot of backpacking and thought here's a chance to get a
hybrid boot.
Anyone know about the Aquastealth soles?
-tom

Tom,

I think they recently changed the Aquastealth sole....slightly. I
believe they put tiny cuts into the rubber, and call it "sipped'.
Whether it's better, I have no clue, but I would not waded is slippery
streams with plain Aquastealth soles. Way too slippery. I own the
studded, Aquastealth versions, and prefer them to any other soles for
wading rivers. The drawback, like others have mentioned, is hiking
across dry rocks. Out here in the Ca. Sierra, we have a lot of smooth
granite. Studded boots will get you hurt. The removable studs is a great
idea. Korker makes interchangeable soles for their line of boots.

brians