White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 

Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/re...fm?NewsID=4108

I'm just curious

John

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:59 -0700, runsrealfast wrote:

Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/re...fm?NewsID=4108

I'm just curious

John

Good questions. My understanding, from the news reports, is that they are
planting them in an area which was not part of their native habitat - I
wonder if we'll ever learn!!

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:02:19 -0600, ray wrote:

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:59 -0700, runsrealfast wrote:

Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/re...fm?NewsID=4108

I'm just curious

John

Good questions. My understanding, from the news reports, is that they are
planting them in an area which was not part of their native habitat - I
wonder if we'll ever learn!!

The sturgeon has always been in that part of the Snake as well as the
Columbia and just about all of the west coast rivers. The late George
Gerhke once fished for them in Hells Canyon. So, it IS part of their
native habitat. They continue to fish for them today. They coexist
with the salmon and trout, and have never been a problem. They may
get as far as the Henrys Fork, but they have no way of getting past
the dam.

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 

"ray" wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:59 -0700, runsrealfast wrote:

Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/re...fm?NewsID=4108

I'm just curious

John

Good questions. My understanding, from the news reports, is that they are
planting them in an area which was not part of their native habitat - I
wonder if we'll ever learn!!


The largest white sturgeon ever caught was from the Snake river. They do
not affect the trout population from what I see. The Pit River in
California may still have sturgeon. And the Kootanei river has them from
Montana to Kootanai lake. All good trout areas.

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:50:46 -0400, Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:02:19 -0600, ray wrote:

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:59 -0700, runsrealfast wrote:

Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/re...fm?NewsID=4108

I'm just curious

John

Good questions. My understanding, from the news reports, is that they are
planting them in an area which was not part of their native habitat - I
wonder if we'll ever learn!!

The sturgeon has always been in that part of the Snake as well as the
Columbia and just about all of the west coast rivers. The late George

We're talking about the 'upper Snake river' here - near Idaho Falls. I was
not aware they were ever that far upstream - Shoshone Falls would be a
major impediment.

Gerhke once fished for them in Hells Canyon. So, it IS part of their
native habitat. They continue to fish for them today. They coexist
with the salmon and trout, and have never been a problem. They may
get as far as the Henrys Fork, but they have no way of getting past
the dam.

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 

In article .com,
runsrealfast wrote:

Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?

Sturgeon, from what I know of them from California, are anadronymous,
just like salmon and stealhead. If you snag a one of those 100 pound
fish that would surely affect your flyfishing. They dont take flies as
they first sense the food before eating. I would assume they would try
to travel to the ocean, will dams prevent them from making it to the
ocean?

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 

"Julie" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
runsrealfast wrote:

Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?

Sturgeon, from what I know of them from California, are anadronymous,
just like salmon and stealhead. If you snag a one of those 100 pound
fish that would surely affect your flyfishing. They dont take flies as
they first sense the food before eating. I would assume they would try
to travel to the ocean, will dams prevent them from making it to the
ocean?

There are several freshwater only varieties.

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:14:37 -0600, ray wrote:

We're talking about the 'upper Snake river' here - near Idaho Falls. I was
not aware they were ever that far upstream - Shoshone Falls would be a
major impediment.

Bottom line: They have coexisted in trout/salmon waters for
centuries. They will NOT impact trout fishing.

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 

On Oct 31, 1:02 pm, ray wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:59 -0700, runsrealfast wrote:
Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/re...fm?NewsID=4108

I'm just curious

John

Good questions. My understanding, from the news reports, is that they are
planting them in an area which was not part of their native habitat - I
wonder if we'll ever learn!!

I was thinking that as well. The other thought was wont it be to cold
this far up north?

John

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 

On Nov 1, 6:12 am, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:14:37 -0600, ray wrote:
We're talking about the 'upper Snake river' here - near Idaho Falls. I was
not aware they were ever that far upstream - Shoshone Falls would be a
major impediment.

Bottom line: They have coexisted in trout/salmon waters for
centuries. They will NOT impact trout fishing.

But the question still remains will they move up into the areas where
fishing is popular. We are talking about 20-30 miles of traveling plus
the water will drop in temperature a bit upstream. I doubt I would
ever land one on a fly, but can imagine maybe a smaller one going
after a streamer. They are known to feed on smaller fish.

John

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 

"runsrealfast" wrote in message
ups.com...

...wont it be to cold this far up north?

Sturgeon do very well in the Fox and Wolf river drainages, including Lake
Winnebago (which freezes over every year), here in Curdistan.

Wolfgang

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 

In article . com,
runsrealfast wrote:

But the question still remains will they move up into the areas where
fishing is popular. We are talking about 20-30 miles of traveling plus
the water will drop in temperature a bit upstream. I doubt I would
ever land one on a fly, but can imagine maybe a smaller one going
after a streamer. They are known to feed on smaller fish.

John

Dont they first smell the bait with feelers (mandibles?) before they
take the bait? That is what green and white sturgeon do at least.

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 

In article ,
"Calif Bill" wrote:

The largest white sturgeon ever caught was from the Snake river. They do
not affect the trout population from what I see. The Pit River in
California may still have sturgeon. And the Kootanei river has them from
Montana to Kootanai lake. All good trout areas.

I seriously doubt the Pit RIver has Sturgeon, it very possibly used to
have sturgeon since it empties into Lake Shasta, and before Lake shasta
would have emptied into the Sacramento river, and the Sacramento River
has a ton of sturgeon. The lower sac is also one of the best trout
fisheries in the US, given all the food from the anadronymous fish
(salmon, shad, sturgeon, steelhead, striper) as well as the shasta dam
having a special device that release cold water from the bottom of lake
shasta so the river is constantly cool even tho Redding gets up to 115
degrees.

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 

"Julie" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Calif Bill" wrote:

The largest white sturgeon ever caught was from the Snake river. They do
not affect the trout population from what I see. The Pit River in
California may still have sturgeon. And the Kootanei river has them from
Montana to Kootanai lake. All good trout areas.

I seriously doubt the Pit RIver has Sturgeon, it very possibly used to
have sturgeon since it empties into Lake Shasta, and before Lake shasta
would have emptied into the Sacramento river, and the Sacramento River
has a ton of sturgeon. The lower sac is also one of the best trout
fisheries in the US, given all the food from the anadronymous fish
(salmon, shad, sturgeon, steelhead, striper) as well as the shasta dam
having a special device that release cold water from the bottom of lake
shasta so the river is constantly cool even tho Redding gets up to 115
degrees.

When I was a kid, was neat to look from the top of Shasta Dam and see the
sturgeon that would swim near the surface there. The hatchery in the area
had a large White Sturgeon on display for years that they got from a shallow
pool on the Pit. There may still be spawners up in Shasta.