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rw November 9th, 2007 05:18 PM

Why is that ...
 
.... when companies use a video of someone flyfishing to sell their
products they very often use a model who has no idea how to cast? I just
saw a advertisement clip for the BlackBerry cell phone -- the guy was
nearly clipping the water with his rod on the backcast. They seem to
pick some random person who "looks the part," dress him (or her) up in
waders, a vest, and a hat, and send them into the water to flail about.

Last year I was a model for a flyfishing brochure for a rafting company
(owned by some friends) that had very little experience with flyfishing.
They wanted a lot of line in the air, so I obliged, and the photographer
(another close friend) shot away. The photo they picked showed an
embarrassingly bad cast. I could supply a link, but I won't. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Mike[_6_] November 9th, 2007 05:33 PM

Why is that ...
 
On 9 Nov, 18:18, rw wrote:
... when companies use a video of someone flyfishing to sell their
products they very often use a model who has no idea how to cast? I just
saw a advertisement clip for the BlackBerry cell phone -- the guy was
nearly clipping the water with his rod on the backcast. They seem to
pick some random person who "looks the part," dress him (or her) up in
waders, a vest, and a hat, and send them into the water to flail about.

Last year I was a model for a flyfishing brochure for a rafting company
(owned by some friends) that had very little experience with flyfishing.
They wanted a lot of line in the air, so I obliged, and the photographer
(another close friend) shot away. The photo they picked showed an
embarrassingly bad cast. I could supply a link, but I won't. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


Itīs tradition! :) Years ago, there was a film with Cary Grant, and
I think Robert Mitchum, I canīt remember the title. Anyway, they go
fly-fishing, and when one casts, the sound of a whining reel ratchet
is heard! I always thought it was the funniest part of the film!

TL
MC


Tom Nakashima November 9th, 2007 05:49 PM

Why is that ...
 

"rw" wrote in message
m...
... when companies use a video of someone flyfishing to sell their
products they very often use a model who has no idea how to cast? I just
saw a advertisement clip for the BlackBerry cell phone -- the guy was
nearly clipping the water with his rod on the backcast. They seem to pick
some random person who "looks the part," dress him (or her) up in waders,
a vest, and a hat, and send them into the water to flail about.

Last year I was a model for a flyfishing brochure for a rafting company
(owned by some friends) that had very little experience with flyfishing.
They wanted a lot of line in the air, so I obliged, and the photographer
(another close friend) shot away. The photo they picked showed an
embarrassingly bad cast. I could supply a link, but I won't. :-)
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


We already know you can cast....
What the heck, show the link, it's Friday!
-tom



rw November 9th, 2007 05:52 PM

Why is that ...
 
Mike wrote:
On 9 Nov, 18:18, rw wrote:

... when companies use a video of someone flyfishing to sell their
products they very often use a model who has no idea how to cast? I just
saw a advertisement clip for the BlackBerry cell phone -- the guy was
nearly clipping the water with his rod on the backcast. They seem to
pick some random person who "looks the part," dress him (or her) up in
waders, a vest, and a hat, and send them into the water to flail about.

Last year I was a model for a flyfishing brochure for a rafting company
(owned by some friends) that had very little experience with flyfishing.
They wanted a lot of line in the air, so I obliged, and the photographer
(another close friend) shot away. The photo they picked showed an
embarrassingly bad cast. I could supply a link, but I won't. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.



Itīs tradition! :) Years ago, there was a film with Cary Grant, and
I think Robert Mitchum, I canīt remember the title. Anyway, they go
fly-fishing, and when one casts, the sound of a whining reel ratchet
is heard! I always thought it was the funniest part of the film!

TL
MC


I think the answer is that a bad cast looks better to an untrained eye
than a good cast.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[email protected] November 9th, 2007 05:58 PM

Why is that ...
 
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:18:15 -0700, rw
wrote:

... when companies use a video of someone flyfishing to sell their
products they very often use a model who has no idea how to cast? I just
saw a advertisement clip for the BlackBerry cell phone -- the guy was
nearly clipping the water with his rod on the backcast. They seem to
pick some random person who "looks the part," dress him (or her) up in
waders, a vest, and a hat, and send them into the water to flail about.

Last year I was a model for a flyfishing brochure for a rafting company
(owned by some friends) that had very little experience with flyfishing.


And even less in choosing models, it would seem...oh, wait...was this
collateral targeted at other rich ol' gals...who, the company hoped,
didn't care about the cost of the raft? But I do have to say, I've seen
your picture, and boy-oh-boy, do you ever, um, "look the part'...

They wanted a lot of line in the air, so I obliged, and the photographer
(another close friend) shot away.


I bet you're glad all involved were your friends...I mean, if they had
been strangers, you might have come out looking like an idiot or
something...

The photo they picked showed an
embarrassingly bad cast. I could supply a link, but I won't. :-)


A ruggedly-handsome, successful innertube model AND coyly modest...no
wonder you're so popular with the studs down at the He Man Bar and Grill
there in Ketchum, Jr....and thanks to your winsome appeal, the rafters,
too, I'll bet...how about the trusses?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, you're calling code enforcement and your
booking agent and if I don't watch it, you'll throw a phone at me,
R



MC November 9th, 2007 06:02 PM

Why is that ...
 
It is also a very good demonstration of inaccurate propaganda. The
movies invariably display what whoever is responsible considers the
general public will imagine something to be. Anybody with any knowledge
on the matter either finds it disgusting that peoplle can be so stupid,
or just funny. The effect is also quite marked, and is responsible for
a lot of people believing total nonsense. Television is even worse.

TL
MC

[email protected] November 9th, 2007 06:13 PM

Why is that ...
 
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:52:42 -0700, rw
wrote:

Mike wrote:
On 9 Nov, 18:18, rw wrote:

... when companies use a video of someone flyfishing to sell their
products they very often use a model who has no idea how to cast? I just
saw a advertisement clip for the BlackBerry cell phone -- the guy was
nearly clipping the water with his rod on the backcast. They seem to
pick some random person who "looks the part," dress him (or her) up in
waders, a vest, and a hat, and send them into the water to flail about.

Last year I was a model for a flyfishing brochure for a rafting company
(owned by some friends) that had very little experience with flyfishing.
They wanted a lot of line in the air, so I obliged, and the photographer
(another close friend) shot away. The photo they picked showed an
embarrassingly bad cast. I could supply a link, but I won't. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.



Itīs tradition! :) Years ago, there was a film with Cary Grant, and
I think Robert Mitchum, I canīt remember the title. Anyway, they go
fly-fishing, and when one casts, the sound of a whining reel ratchet
is heard! I always thought it was the funniest part of the film!

TL
MC


I think the answer is that a bad cast looks better to an untrained eye
than a good cast.


So, Giselle, is that your professional opinion based upon years of
experience in the trenches and focused study in the modeling sciences,
or just an educat...hmmm...ah, OK...

So, Giselle, is that the first thing that entered your pretty little
head or is that the first thing that entered your pretty little head?

Hey, hey - I am SO not trying to trick her - I just thought a
multiple-choice test would be easier for her if A and B were equally
correct...AND I typed very slowly, too...

Sheesh, try to give a girl a break, and all you get is grief,
R

rb608 November 9th, 2007 06:14 PM

Why is that ...
 
On Nov 9, 12:52 pm, "Peter A. Collin"
wrote:
For that matter, I get a kick out of when, in the movies, they shoot
somewhere other than where the setting of the story is, and choose a
locale that bears no resemblance.


OMG, the worst case of that I've seen was the chick flick "Message in
a Bottle". I don't even know if it's a good movie, because I was so
distracted by the obviously wrong setting. The movie was supposedly
North Carolina, but it was clearly shot somewhere (Maine, I think)
with 10-15 foot tides and rocky shoreline. Everytime there was harbor
scene, it was all I could do to not yell "bull****".

Joe F.


rw November 9th, 2007 06:15 PM

Why is that ...
 
Peter A. Collin wrote:
rw wrote:

... when companies use a video of someone flyfishing to sell their
products they very often use a model who has no idea how to cast? I
just saw a advertisement clip for the BlackBerry cell phone -- the guy
was nearly clipping the water with his rod on the backcast. They seem
to pick some random person who "looks the part," dress him (or her) up
in waders, a vest, and a hat, and send them into the water to flail
about.

Last year I was a model for a flyfishing brochure for a rafting
company (owned by some friends) that had very little experience with
flyfishing. They wanted a lot of line in the air, so I obliged, and
the photographer (another close friend) shot away. The photo they
picked showed an embarrassingly bad cast. I could supply a link, but I
won't. :-)


For that matter, I get a kick out of when, in the movies, they shoot
somewhere other than where the setting of the story is, and choose a
locale that bears no resemblance. Like in "The Deer Hunter", when they
are supposedly hunting in the Allegany mountains. There are craggy,
snow capped peaks all around and mule deer and elk abound. I remember
thinking "How did those guys drive from Pittsburgh to Idaho in one
drunken night?"


Yes! I remember that. It was hilarious.

I suspect the reason is that the mountains of Idaho are more scenic (in
a cinematic sense) than the Alleganies.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rw November 9th, 2007 06:16 PM

Why is that ...
 
Tom Nakashima wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...

... when companies use a video of someone flyfishing to sell their
products they very often use a model who has no idea how to cast? I just
saw a advertisement clip for the BlackBerry cell phone -- the guy was
nearly clipping the water with his rod on the backcast. They seem to pick
some random person who "looks the part," dress him (or her) up in waders,
a vest, and a hat, and send them into the water to flail about.

Last year I was a model for a flyfishing brochure for a rafting company
(owned by some friends) that had very little experience with flyfishing.
They wanted a lot of line in the air, so I obliged, and the photographer
(another close friend) shot away. The photo they picked showed an
embarrassingly bad cast. I could supply a link, but I won't. :-)
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.



We already know you can cast....
What the heck, show the link, it's Friday!
-tom



Oh, OK. Here it is:

http://www.therivercompany.com/idaho...llery/fish.php

The REALLY BAD cast is #5 in the slide show.

My fishing partner, Tatiania (we called her "Tits"), is a sweetheart.
She's from Montana and she knows how to fish.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rw November 9th, 2007 06:25 PM

Why is that ...
 
The scene in the movie version of The Sun Also Rises where Tyrone Power
and Eddie Albert attempt to flyfish in Spain is pretty funny.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Don Phillipson November 9th, 2007 06:30 PM

Why is that ...
 
"Mike" wrote in message
ps.com...

Years ago, there was a film with Cary Grant, and
I think Robert Mitchum, I canīt remember the title. Anyway, they go
fly-fishing, and when one casts, the sound of a whining reel ratchet
is heard! I always thought it was the funniest part of the film!


There seem to be several such automatic errors.
E.g. aircraft rubber tyres normally squeak at touchdown
on a paved runway: and when aircraft touch down on
grass in movies (e.g. Battle of Britain) the sound track
usually supplies the tyre squeak (which does not happen
on grass.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



Scott Seidman November 9th, 2007 06:37 PM

Why is that ...
 
rb608 wrote in news:1194632044.730658.296800
@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

On Nov 9, 12:52 pm, "Peter A. Collin"
wrote:
For that matter, I get a kick out of when, in the movies, they shoot
somewhere other than where the setting of the story is, and choose a
locale that bears no resemblance.


OMG, the worst case of that I've seen was the chick flick "Message in
a Bottle". I don't even know if it's a good movie, because I was so
distracted by the obviously wrong setting. The movie was supposedly
North Carolina, but it was clearly shot somewhere (Maine, I think)
with 10-15 foot tides and rocky shoreline. Everytime there was harbor
scene, it was all I could do to not yell "bull****".

Joe F.


And we all watched the sun set in the East in the last scene of Green
Beret.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

[email protected] November 9th, 2007 06:41 PM

Why is that ...
 
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:14:04 -0800, rb608
wrote:

On Nov 9, 12:52 pm, "Peter A. Collin"
wrote:
For that matter, I get a kick out of when, in the movies, they shoot
somewhere other than where the setting of the story is, and choose a
locale that bears no resemblance.


OMG, the worst case of that I've seen was the chick flick "Message in
a Bottle". I don't even know if it's a good movie, because I was so
distracted by the obviously wrong setting. The movie was supposedly
North Carolina, but it was clearly shot somewhere (Maine, I think)
with 10-15 foot tides and rocky shoreline. Everytime there was harbor
scene, it was all I could do to not yell "bull****".


I disagree. Have you seen "Star Wars?" They keep calling what is
obviously just the 3rd moon of Venutia "Plutonia"...oh, sure, I tried to
have a suspension of disbelief, but I confess I felt a little sorry for
how hard it must have been for Plutonians in the audience...

If I'm at a chick flick, it's with a chick, and I'd offer that unless
she is a film student (and there's a good chance even if she is),
pointing out locale and continuity errors ain't the sweet nothings you
ought to be whispering...

TC,
R

Joe F.


Ken Fortenberry[_3_] November 9th, 2007 06:49 PM

Why is that ...
 
rb608 wrote:
"Peter A. Collin" wrote:
For that matter, I get a kick out of when, in the movies, they shoot
somewhere other than where the setting of the story is, and choose a
locale that bears no resemblance.


OMG, the worst case of that I've seen was the chick flick "Message in
a Bottle". I don't even know if it's a good movie, because I was so
distracted by the obviously wrong setting. The movie was supposedly
North Carolina, but it was clearly shot somewhere (Maine, I think)
with 10-15 foot tides and rocky shoreline. Everytime there was harbor
scene, it was all I could do to not yell "bull****".


One of the movies screened for our annual Insect Fear Film Festival
had a very young Peter Graves (Mission Impossible) battling giant
radioactive something or other and he had to consult with a
famous entomologist at the University of Illinois. He got in his
car and started to drive from Chicago to Champaign through some
of the most beautiful mountain scenery I've seen on film. Much
hooting, hollering and guffawing ensued. ;-) That Film Festival
in general is always a hoot.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Tom Nakashima November 9th, 2007 06:54 PM

Why is that ...
 

"rw" wrote in message
m...
Tom Nakashima wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...

... when companies use a video of someone flyfishing to sell their
products they very often use a model who has no idea how to cast? I just
saw a advertisement clip for the BlackBerry cell phone -- the guy was
nearly clipping the water with his rod on the backcast. They seem to pick
some random person who "looks the part," dress him (or her) up in waders,
a vest, and a hat, and send them into the water to flail about.

Last year I was a model for a flyfishing brochure for a rafting company
(owned by some friends) that had very little experience with flyfishing.
They wanted a lot of line in the air, so I obliged, and the photographer
(another close friend) shot away. The photo they picked showed an
embarrassingly bad cast. I could supply a link, but I won't. :-)
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.



We already know you can cast....
What the heck, show the link, it's Friday!
-tom

Oh, OK. Here it is:

http://www.therivercompany.com/idaho...llery/fish.php

The REALLY BAD cast is #5 in the slide show.

My fishing partner, Tatiania (we called her "Tits"), is a sweetheart.
She's from Montana and she knows how to fish.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.



Nice Photo!
It's not bad at all, love the composition and lighting.
-tom



Wolfgang November 9th, 2007 06:59 PM

Why is that ...
 

wrote in message
...

If I'm at a chick flick, it's with a chick, and I'd offer that unless
she is a film student (and there's a good chance even if she is),
pointing out locale and continuity errors ain't the sweet nothings you
ought to be whispering...


If you are at a chick flick with a chick I'd offer that you shouldn't
concern yourself so much with the precise content of the sweet nothings
someone else is, or ought to be, whispering in her ear. No, I think there
is an altogether different message you should be thinking about......the
same one you receive here daily.

Wolfgang



rb608 November 9th, 2007 08:49 PM

Why is that ...
 
On Nov 9, 1:49 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
One of the movies screened for our annual Insect Fear Film Festival
had a very young Peter Graves (Mission Impossible) battling giant
radioactive something or other and he had to consult with a
famous entomologist at the University of Illinois.


"Killers From Space"?

Staying in the younger versions of actors in sci fi vein, I still have
a hard time taking "Forbidden Planet" seriously. It's a classic, but
I can't get past seeing Frank Drebin as the spaceship captain. g


Wolfgang November 9th, 2007 08:57 PM

Why is that ...
 

"rb608" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Nov 9, 1:49 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
One of the movies screened for our annual Insect Fear Film Festival
had a very young Peter Graves (Mission Impossible) battling giant
radioactive something or other and he had to consult with a
famous entomologist at the University of Illinois.


"Killers From Space"?

Staying in the younger versions of actors in sci fi vein, I still have
a hard time taking "Forbidden Planet" seriously. It's a classic, but
I can't get past seeing Frank Drebin as the spaceship captain. g


Wow, this is like taking a trip with Mr. Peabody and Sherman in the Wayback
Machine!

When you're young enough (and I was), "Forbidden Planet" is scary. Monsters
from the Id? Sounds like ROFF. AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! :(

"The Day the Earth Stood Still," on the other hand.......well, the cast and
crew did.....and a six year old boy couldn't stay awake.

Wolfgang



Tom Nakashima November 9th, 2007 09:01 PM

Why is that ...
 

"rb608" wrote in message
ups.com...

"Killers From Space"?

Staying in the younger versions of actors in sci fi vein, I still have
a hard time taking "Forbidden Planet" seriously. It's a classic, but
I can't get past seeing Frank Drebin as the spaceship captain. g


Danger Will Robinson!
http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/C...d_3p.widec.jpg
-tom



rb608 November 9th, 2007 09:23 PM

Why is that ...
 
On Nov 9, 1:16 pm, rw wrote:
My fishing partner, Tatiania (we called her "Tits")


I'm probably more PC than most, but I still gotta say, no matter how
affectionately that's meant, no matter how funny it may be, and no
matter how much that may not bother her, that's just wrong.

I'll temper that opinion with the confession that on one of the blogs
I frequent, I posted a diary railing against a toy manufacturer for
what I though was an incredibly demeaning sexist marketing scheme for
one of its toys. The blog is unquestionably on the "liberal" side of
things, and I expected a sympathetic audience for my rant. I was
wrong; opinion was split almost exactly 50:50. So what do I know.


Wolfgang November 9th, 2007 09:41 PM

Why is that ...
 

"rb608" wrote in message
ps.com...
On Nov 9, 1:16 pm, rw wrote:
My fishing partner, Tatiania (we called her "Tits")


I'm probably more PC than most, but I still gotta say, no matter how
affectionately that's meant, no matter how funny it may be, and no
matter how much that may not bother her, that's just wrong.


Well, yeah......um.....maybe.....if she's somebody's daughter.

I'll temper that opinion with the confession that on one of the blogs
I frequent, I posted a diary railing against a toy manufacturer for
what I though was an incredibly demeaning sexist marketing scheme for
one of its toys. The blog is unquestionably on the "liberal" side of
things, and I expected a sympathetic audience for my rant. I was
wrong; opinion was split almost exactly 50:50. So what do I know.


What's distressing and oh so hard to understand isn't so much that we live
in a world full of pigs and assholes, but that they are proud of it.....and
amused by it......and that they get a great deal of respect for it.

Wolfgang



Mike[_6_] November 9th, 2007 09:58 PM

Why is that ...
 
On 9 Nov, 22:41, "Wolfgang" wrote:

What's distressing and oh so hard to understand isn't so much that we live
in a world full of pigs and assholes, but that they are proud of it.....and
amused by it......and that they get a great deal of respect for it.

Wolfgang



As a general observation, it is very hard not to agree with that. But
here, there seems to be at least an element of tit for tat.

MC


[email protected] November 9th, 2007 10:04 PM

Why is that ...
 
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:23:50 -0800, rb608
wrote:

On Nov 9, 1:16 pm, rw wrote:
My fishing partner, Tatiania (we called her "Tits")


I'm probably more PC than most, but I still gotta say, no matter how
affectionately that's meant, no matter how funny it may be, and no
matter how much that may not bother her, that's just wrong.


You realize he's just trailing, right? Oh, "they" probably do call her
"tits" and she may act like she thinks it's funny (or may even like it,
but I'd have to, um, well, see 'em in real life to believe it...), but
I'd offer that it's her call to make and, um, well, her hills to defend
if she thinks they need defending.

I'd be interested to know something. You say you are "PC," and are a
"liberal," yet you'd categorically deny a woman the right to be called
whatever she wished, yet you don't seem to have any opinion on when such
involves one guy calling another guy something that parallels "tits."

I'll temper that opinion with the confession that on one of the blogs
I frequent, I posted a diary railing against a toy manufacturer for
what I though was an incredibly demeaning sexist marketing scheme for
one of its toys. The blog is unquestionably on the "liberal" side of
things, and I expected a sympathetic audience for my rant. I was
wrong; opinion was split almost exactly 50:50. So what do I know.


Well, see, that's the problem with trying to be politically correct -
everybody is with a different party or wing thereof...and I'd not call a
"sexist" marketing scheme for _toys_ demeaning, I'd call it stupid -
what do kids really know or care about sexism? Are you sure it was
"sexist?"

TC,
R

Ken Fortenberry[_3_] November 9th, 2007 10:08 PM

Why is that ...
 
rb608 wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
One of the movies screened for our annual Insect Fear Film Festival
had a very young Peter Graves (Mission Impossible) battling giant
radioactive something or other and he had to consult with a
famous entomologist at the University of Illinois.


"Killers From Space"? ...


Whoa, talk about knowing your movie trivia, what are you Joe,
some sort of walking, talking Halliwell's ? ;-)

This place never ceases to amaze.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Tom Nakashima November 9th, 2007 10:08 PM

Why is that ...
 

On Nov 9, 1:16 pm, rw wrote:
My fishing partner, Tatiania (we called her "Tits")


It's obvious it's short for Tatiania.
-tom



Mike[_6_] November 9th, 2007 10:15 PM

Why is that ...
 
On 9 Nov, 23:04, wrote:
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:23:50 -0800, rb608
wrote:

On Nov 9, 1:16 pm, rw wrote:
My fishing partner, Tatiania (we called her "Tits")


I'm probably more PC than most, but I still gotta say, no matter how
affectionately that's meant, no matter how funny it may be, and no
matter how much that may not bother her, that's just wrong.


You realize he's just trailing, right? Oh, "they" probably do call her
"tits" and she may act like she thinks it's funny (or may even like it,
but I'd have to, um, well, see 'em in real life to believe it...), but
I'd offer that it's her call to make and, um, well, her hills to defend
if she thinks they need defending.

I'd be interested to know something. You say you are "PC," and are a
"liberal," yet you'd categorically deny a woman the right to be called
whatever she wished, yet you don't seem to have any opinion on when such
involves one guy calling another guy something that parallels "tits."

I'll temper that opinion with the confession that on one of the blogs
I frequent, I posted a diary railing against a toy manufacturer for
what I though was an incredibly demeaning sexist marketing scheme for
one of its toys. The blog is unquestionably on the "liberal" side of
things, and I expected a sympathetic audience for my rant. I was
wrong; opinion was split almost exactly 50:50. So what do I know.


Well, see, that's the problem with trying to be politically correct -
everybody is with a different party or wing thereof...and I'd not call a
"sexist" marketing scheme for _toys_ demeaning, I'd call it stupid -
what do kids really know or care about sexism? Are you sure it was
"sexist?"

TC,
R


Itīs basically just as funny as you calling people homos, nazis etc
etc. What was it you said about irony?

If you had either sense or manners you would not do it, so it is quite
grotesque for you to comment on others in that regard.

Very many children are raised and indoctrinated in sexist
environments, which colours their subsequent views on such things very
considerably. Quite a few people consider this to be wrong.

Maybe you should have watched more movies instead of just trying to
bull**** the "chick" beside you.

MC


rb608 November 10th, 2007 12:47 AM

Why is that ...
 
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
news:qT4Zi.19618
This place never ceases to amaze.


I *should* just accept the adulation and amazement and keep my mouth shut,
but I have to admit I looked it up. :-)

Joe F.



rb608 November 10th, 2007 01:01 AM

Why is that ...
 
wrote in message
I'd not call a
"sexist" marketing scheme for _toys_ demeaning, I'd call it stupid -
what do kids really know or care about sexism? Are you sure it was
"sexist?"


FWIW, the product was Hasbro's "Rose Petal Cottage". The TV ad that set me
off was within typical norms of little girls playing with dolls & doll
houses; but the voiceover of "inspiring your imagination" while showing a
little girl putting landry into a washing machine was way past acceptable
for me.



rw November 10th, 2007 02:55 AM

Why is that ...
 
rb608 wrote:
On Nov 9, 1:16 pm, rw wrote:

My fishing partner, Tatiania (we called her "Tits")



I'm probably more PC than most, but I still gotta say, no matter how
affectionately that's meant, no matter how funny it may be, and no
matter how much that may not bother her, that's just wrong.


Well, she actually has a sense of humor, and I'm sure that how you feel
about her nickname is of no concern to her. You should hear some of the
stuff she called her friends. The river guides around here are a pretty
profane bunch.

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[email protected] November 10th, 2007 03:19 AM

Why is that ...
 
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:01:57 GMT, "rb608"
wrote:

wrote in message
I'd not call a
"sexist" marketing scheme for _toys_ demeaning, I'd call it stupid -
what do kids really know or care about sexism? Are you sure it was
"sexist?"


FWIW, the product was Hasbro's "Rose Petal Cottage". The TV ad that set me
off was within typical norms of little girls playing with dolls & doll
houses; but the voiceover of "inspiring your imagination" while showing a
little girl putting landry into a washing machine was way past acceptable
for me.

MY GOD!! Little kids playing house and doing laundry! The exploitive
*******s! So, I'm curious...do you and your family simply throw away
that day's clothes, have the servants do it, send it out, or ??? Me
personally, I have a staff of course, but don't you common people have
to do menial things like that? I mean, I was in a grocery once (hey, I
needed ice for cocktails, and the machine in the Roller was on the
blink...) and I saw all sorts of that stuff the help puts in that thing
with the window, so I figure at least SOME of you folks do it...laundry,
not landry...although if it were Ali, I'd be game to give her, er, it a
go...

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, you're calling the Maytag repairma...er,
repairperson,
R
....I mean, they didn't show 'em ridin' the dryer or anything, right?

Frank Reid[_2_] November 10th, 2007 05:12 AM

Why is that ...
 
Saw a news report the other night about all the F-15's being
grounded. They led off with an aircraft taking off from a carrier.
Even the wiff was calling them a bunch of idiots (for the uninitiated,
F-15s are land-based, USAF fighters. They don't do well with carrier
landings. No Starbucks on the carrier).
Frank Reid



rw November 10th, 2007 03:22 PM

Why is that ...
 
rw wrote:
rb608 wrote:

On Nov 9, 1:16 pm, rw wrote:

My fishing partner, Tatiania (we called her "Tits")




I'm probably more PC than most, but I still gotta say, no matter how
affectionately that's meant, no matter how funny it may be, and no
matter how much that may not bother her, that's just wrong.



Well, she actually has a sense of humor, and I'm sure that how you feel
about her nickname is of no concern to her. You should hear some of the
stuff she called her friends. The river guides around here are a pretty
profane bunch.


BTW, when I wrote that "we" called her Tits I wasn't referring to just
me and the other guy in the raft. I was referring to ALL of her circle
of friends in Stanley, probably at least half of whom are women.

Unfortunately, the rafting company was sold last year and most of the
staff left. I really enjoyed hanging with that crowd, even though they
were half my age.

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Wolfgang November 11th, 2007 09:20 PM

Why is that ...
 

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:23:50 -0800, rb608
wrote:

On Nov 9, 1:16 pm, rw wrote:
My fishing partner, Tatiania (we called her "Tits")


I'm probably more PC than most, but I still gotta say, no matter how
affectionately that's meant, no matter how funny it may be, and no
matter how much that may not bother her, that's just wrong.


You realize he's just trailing, right? Oh, "they" probably do call her
"tits" and she may act like she thinks it's funny (or may even like it,
but I'd have to, um, well, see 'em in real life to believe it...), but
I'd offer that it's her call to make and, um, well, her hills to defend
if she thinks they need defending.


Thus explaining the need for you to enter yet another conversation with
nothing to add to it.......right?

I'd be interested to know something. You say you are "PC," and are a
"liberal," yet you'd categorically deny a woman the right to be called
whatever she wished, yet you don't seem to have any opinion on when such
involves one guy calling another guy something that parallels "tits."


I'm going to guess that I'm the only person here who missed your proof that
the woman in question (or any other, for that matter) has been denied her
right to be called whatever she wishes. Could you (or anyone else) please
repost that? Thanks, awfully.

I'll temper that opinion with the confession that on one of the blogs
I frequent, I posted a diary railing against a toy manufacturer for
what I though was an incredibly demeaning sexist marketing scheme for
one of its toys. The blog is unquestionably on the "liberal" side of
things, and I expected a sympathetic audience for my rant. I was
wrong; opinion was split almost exactly 50:50. So what do I know.


Well, see, that's the problem with trying to be politically correct -
everybody is with a different party or wing thereof...


No, that's not the problem. In fact, it's not even "a" problem.

and I'd not call a
"sexist" marketing scheme for _toys_ demeaning,


Surprise, surprise, surprise!

I'd call it stupid -


As some of us would you. So?

what do kids really know or care about sexism?


They learn their first lessons in sexism before they can speak. If you
think about it, this puts them well ahead of you......on a great number of
issues.

Are you sure it was "sexist?"


Imbecile.

Wolfgang



Wolfgang November 11th, 2007 09:20 PM

Why is that ...
 

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
...

On Nov 9, 1:16 pm, rw wrote:
My fishing partner, Tatiania (we called her "Tits")


It's obvious it's short for Tatiania.


Moron.

Wolfgang



Wolfgang November 11th, 2007 09:23 PM

Why is that ...
 

"rw" wrote in message
m...
rw wrote:
rb608 wrote:

On Nov 9, 1:16 pm, rw wrote:

My fishing partner, Tatiania (we called her "Tits")



I'm probably more PC than most, but I still gotta say, no matter how
affectionately that's meant, no matter how funny it may be, and no
matter how much that may not bother her, that's just wrong.



Well, she actually has a sense of humor, and I'm sure that how you feel
about her nickname is of no concern to her. You should hear some of the
stuff she called her friends. The river guides around here are a pretty
profane bunch.


BTW, when I wrote that "we" called her Tits I wasn't referring to just me
and the other guy in the raft. I was referring to ALL of her circle of
friends in Stanley, probably at least half of whom are women.


Well.....gosh.....how charming.

Unfortunately, the rafting company was sold last year and most of the
staff left. I really enjoyed hanging with that crowd, even though they
were half my age.


Surprise, surprise, surprise!

Wolfgang



rw December 3rd, 2007 06:52 AM

Why is that ...
 
jeffc wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...

Last year I was a model for a flyfishing brochure for a rafting company
(owned by some friends) that had very little experience with flyfishing.
They wanted a lot of line in the air, so I obliged, and the photographer
(another close friend) shot away. The photo they picked showed an
embarrassingly bad cast.



The more curling line swirling about in the air, the better.


Irt makes for an interesting photo for someone who doesn't know what
they're looking at.

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rw December 3rd, 2007 06:57 AM

Why is that ...
 
rw wrote:
jeffc wrote:

"rw" wrote in message
m...

Last year I was a model for a flyfishing brochure for a rafting
company (owned by some friends) that had very little experience with
flyfishing. They wanted a lot of line in the air, so I obliged, and
the photographer (another close friend) shot away. The photo they
picked showed an embarrassingly bad cast.




The more curling line swirling about in the air, the better.



Irt makes for an interesting photo for someone who doesn't know what
they're looking at.


"Irt" = "It" :-)

I'm the next-to-worst typist in ROFF.

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Sprattoo December 4th, 2007 03:49 PM

Why is that ...
 
On Dec 3, 1:03 am, "jeffc" wrote:
"rw" wrote in message

m...



Last year I was a model for a flyfishing brochure for a rafting company
(owned by some friends) that had very little experience with flyfishing.
They wanted a lot of line in the air, so I obliged, and the photographer
(another close friend) shot away. The photo they picked showed an
embarrassingly bad cast.


The more curling line swirling about in the air, the better.


I cast cast reasonably well.... when no one is looking. However, the
instant a tourist whips out a camera, I am DOOMED!

The line gets sloppy and everything just screws up, it a wonder I
don't catch myself more with all the cameras around here in the summer
months.


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