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Dave LaCourse November 15th, 2007 02:51 AM

OT Pandora
 
Anyone tried www.pandora.com ?

Great background music for whatever you are doing. You name the
artists and the station takes care of the rest. I've heard a Brubeck
album that I didn't know existed. It was recorded before Paul Desmond
died, but never remastered/released until fairly recently. And, it's
free. Ahmad Jamal now playing "Misty".

Dave





Mike[_6_] November 15th, 2007 02:56 AM

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Dave LaCourse wrote:

Anyone tried www.pandora.com ?

Great background music for whatever you are doing. You name the
artists and the station takes care of the rest. I've heard a Brubeck
album that I didn't know existed. It was recorded before Paul Desmond
died, but never remastered/released until fairly recently. And, it's
free. Ahmad Jamal now playing "Misty".

Dave


Doesnīt lugging all that computer stuff to the stream hurt your back?

Dave LaCourse November 15th, 2007 03:03 AM

OT Pandora
 
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:56:07 -0800 (PST), Mike
wrote:



Dave LaCourse wrote:

Anyone tried www.pandora.com ?

Great background music for whatever you are doing. You name the
artists and the station takes care of the rest. I've heard a Brubeck
album that I didn't know existed. It was recorded before Paul Desmond
died, but never remastered/released until fairly recently. And, it's
free. Ahmad Jamal now playing "Misty".

Dave


Doesnīt lugging all that computer stuff to the stream hurt your back?


Mikey Sr.

d;o)



riverman November 15th, 2007 05:06 AM

OT Pandora
 
On Nov 15, 10:51 am, Dave LaCourse wrote:
Anyone triedwww.pandora.com?

Great background music for whatever you are doing. You name the
artists and the station takes care of the rest. I've heard a Brubeck
album that I didn't know existed. It was recorded before Paul Desmond
died, but never remastered/released until fairly recently. And, it's
free. Ahmad Jamal now playing "Misty".

Dave


http://tinyurl.com/2w6jp5
http://tinyurl.com/28eec7


Unfortunately, they have discontinued sending their feed outside the
US (at least to HK) for copyright reasons. I miss it...

--riverman

Mike[_6_] November 15th, 2007 05:08 AM

OT Pandora
 


riverman wrote:




Unfortunately, they have discontinued sending their feed outside the
US (at least to HK) for copyright reasons. I miss it...

--riverman


If you want to listen to it, just use proxy.

TL
MC

eddavidson9[_5_] November 15th, 2007 05:59 AM

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Good stuff, I've used it on and off for a while. Introduces you to
stuff you might like based on similarities to what you specify and
continually tailors itself based on whether you approve or decline its
suggestions. It can be frustrating if it starts to drift but the
selection of music is pretty impressive.


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Mike[_6_] November 15th, 2007 06:06 AM

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This one works, just type the URL in

http://www.webwarper.net/

so will many others. All they do is check IP adresses, and if you use
a proxy inside the US for instance, there are no restrictions.

TL
MC

Mike[_6_] November 15th, 2007 06:11 AM

OT Pandora
 
If you want more choice, just use this;

http://www.raimasoftware.com/

This is also useful;

http://www.getmiro.com/


TL
MC

Tom Nakashima November 15th, 2007 02:18 PM

OT Pandora
 

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
Anyone tried www.pandora.com ?

Great background music for whatever you are doing. You name the
artists and the station takes care of the rest. I've heard a Brubeck
album that I didn't know existed. It was recorded before Paul Desmond
died, but never remastered/released until fairly recently. And, it's
free. Ahmad Jamal now playing "Misty".

Dave


Interesting, I've heard of the Ahmad Jamal Trio and Misty, but didn't
know the ties to Brubeck.
-tom



rb608 November 15th, 2007 02:29 PM

OT Pandora
 
On Nov 14, 9:51 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
Anyone triedwww.pandora.com?

Great background music for whatever you are doing. You name the
artists and the station takes care of the rest. I've heard a Brubeck
album that I didn't know existed.


Sounds pretty great. Alas, my PC has decided it doesn't want to give
me audio output anymore. Can't figure out why. I've done all the
obvious stuff right up to re-installing the sound card drivers.
Nothing.

If anybody wants to solve this one for me, here's what I know. I have
no audio to the speakers and no audio to the headphone jack. Nothing
is muted in the volume control. There are no error states shown in
the Device Manager.

I do know that it will record and process audio using Audacity and
Vegas Movie Studio, because I can transfer the files to other PCs and
play them fine there.

I suspect I'm headed for a new audio card, but I haven't gotten around
to that yet.

Russell D. November 15th, 2007 02:49 PM

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eddavidson9 wrote:
Good stuff, I've used it on and off for a while. Introduces you to
stuff you might like based on similarities to what you specify and
continually tailors itself based on whether you approve or decline its
suggestions. It can be frustrating if it starts to drift but the
selection of music is pretty impressive.



Yeah, on some artists it can drift pretty badly. My Little Feat station
stays right on track most of the time.

Another fun one is Wolfgang's Vault if you like live stuff.

http://concerts.wolfgangsvault.com/C...aspx?stype=all


Russell

[email protected] November 15th, 2007 03:08 PM

OT Pandora
 
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:29:27 -0800 (PST), rb608
wrote:

On Nov 14, 9:51 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
Anyone triedwww.pandora.com?

Great background music for whatever you are doing. You name the
artists and the station takes care of the rest. I've heard a Brubeck
album that I didn't know existed.


Sounds pretty great. Alas, my PC has decided it doesn't want to give
me audio output anymore. Can't figure out why. I've done all the
obvious stuff right up to re-installing the sound card drivers.


Did you reinstall over the top, or remove the card (not physically, just
in DM), the drivers, etc., reboot, and then reinstall? Another thing -
did this happen at an SP2 "upgrade?" If so, and if you haven't done so,
you might check to see if there are later drivers.

TC,
R
Nothing.

If anybody wants to solve this one for me, here's what I know. I have
no audio to the speakers and no audio to the headphone jack. Nothing
is muted in the volume control. There are no error states shown in
the Device Manager.

I do know that it will record and process audio using Audacity and
Vegas Movie Studio, because I can transfer the files to other PCs and
play them fine there.

I suspect I'm headed for a new audio card, but I haven't gotten around
to that yet.


rb608 November 15th, 2007 04:15 PM

OT Pandora
 
On Nov 15, 10:08 am, wrote:
Did you reinstall over the top, or remove the card (not physically, just
in DM), the drivers, etc., reboot, and then reinstall? Another thing -
did this happen at an SP2 "upgrade?" If so, and if you haven't done so,
you might check to see if there are later drivers.


Yes, I did remove it via device manager & let it re-detect & re-
install it on reboot. The system thinks it's there, but no audio.
I'm not actually sure what event prompted it; but I don't believe is
was a Windows update. God knows what the kids may have installed.

Joe F.

Dave LaCourse November 15th, 2007 05:00 PM

OT Pandora
 
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:18:43 -0800, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:

Interesting, I've heard of the Ahmad Jamal Trio and Misty, but didn't
know the ties to Brubeck.


There isn't a tie between Jamal and Brubeck. I entered Brubeck as my
favorite, and it then selects other things besides Brubeck, including
Jamal, Oscar Peterson, Mulligan, Miles Davis, etc. It did wander off
a time or two and I had to manually correct it, but it is a pretty
neat station, especially the new Brubeck album.

My first Jamal album was bought in Japan in 1958.

Dave


[email protected] November 15th, 2007 05:32 PM

OT Pandora
 
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:15:40 -0800 (PST), rb608
wrote:

On Nov 15, 10:08 am, wrote:
Did you reinstall over the top, or remove the card (not physically, just
in DM), the drivers, etc., reboot, and then reinstall? Another thing -
did this happen at an SP2 "upgrade?" If so, and if you haven't done so,
you might check to see if there are later drivers.


Yes, I did remove it via device manager & let it re-detect & re-
install it on reboot. The system thinks it's there, but no audio.
I'm not actually sure what event prompted it; but I don't believe is
was a Windows update. God knows what the kids may have installed.


If I understood what you were saying, you get nothing out of the
speakers on this computer, right? Um, I know this is simplistic, but
are you sure everything is working and connected? Have you checked the
speakers themselves, the cable(s), power supply, etc.?

Also, have you tried manually bypassing any "enhanced" (Creative Labs'?)
audio manager and simply tried the basic sound drivers and manager?

TC,
R

Joe F.


Mike[_6_] November 15th, 2007 06:07 PM

OT Pandora
 


rb608 wrote:

.

If anybody wants to solve this one for me, here's what I know. I have
no audio to the speakers and no audio to the headphone jack. Nothing
is muted in the volume control. There are no error states shown in
the Device Manager.


Go to Control Panel and then 'sound'. Pick an event that has a sound
associated with it (like 'windows start'). If the '' or speaker next
to the sound name is black, that means your driver is installed
correctly. If it is grey, that means it is not installed correctly.
If it is black and you click on the , the sound should play. If you
can't hear it you either have the 'mute' on in the volume control box,
or your speakers are plugged into the wrong hole in your sound card.
Or you have set up your sound system to use a different output socket
on the card.

This may help you;
http://www.delback.co.uk/pcaudiofaq.htm

http://support.gateway.com/s/tutoria...07&series=1082

Often these problems are caused by a program that reconfigures the
sound card. This either re-routes the audio signal, or turns it off.

TL
MC

Mike[_6_] November 15th, 2007 06:17 PM

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May also help;

http://www.pcbuyerbeware.co.uk/Sound.htm

TL
MC

Frank Reid[_2_] November 15th, 2007 06:20 PM

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My first Jamal album was bought in Japan in 1958.

Before or after April 15th? Just want to know if the album is older
than I am. :-)
Frank Reid

Dave LaCourse November 15th, 2007 06:51 PM

OT Pandora
 
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:20:43 -0800 (PST), Frank Reid
wrote:

Before or after April 15th? Just want to know if the album is older
than I am. :-)


LOL. Probably after. But......

d;o)



rb608 November 15th, 2007 07:31 PM

OT Pandora
 
wrote in message
If I understood what you were saying, you get nothing out of the
speakers on this computer, right? Um, I know this is simplistic, but
are you sure everything is working and connected? Have you checked the
speakers themselves, the cable(s), power supply, etc.?


Yep. I'm also getting nothing out of the headphone jack, and that's hard
wired.

Joe F.



Mike[_6_] November 15th, 2007 07:51 PM

OT Pandora
 


Yep. I'm also getting nothing out of the headphone jack, and that's hard
wired.

Joe F.


That is almost certainly because the card has been reconfigured. It
is comparatively rare for sound cards to simply cease operations,
although it does happen. Some games also reconfigure the jack sockets
for input and output.
On ore two friends of mine have had these problems after their kids
have installed various games etc.

I donīt know what sound card you have, but this may be of assistance
to you anyway. It is the software for an on board chip set which is
used with many computers, but it will work to reconfigure some cards
as well;

http://www.softwarepatch.com/utilities/ac97.html

You can also find more info there.

TL
MC


Mike[_6_] November 15th, 2007 08:02 PM

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If you canīt fix it, want to try another card, and if you want a good
audio experience form your PC, then this is worth looking at;

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/i...fm?reviewid=35

as they state, if you donīt need all the extra features,( god for
musicians, people who want to archive vinyl etc) then the Audigy 4.0
pro is a very good card.

This software may also be of assistance to you, ( 30 day trial, which
is usually enough for somebody just seeking a single fault) ;

http://www.passmark.com/products/soundcheck.htm

This too may of help in diagnosing the problem(s);

http://www.infohq.com/Computer/compu...-card-help.htm

TL
MC


Mike[_6_] November 15th, 2007 08:08 PM

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I have installed these on several systems lately;

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Z-4.../dp/B000BSTXFE

they really are first class, reasonably priced, and one of the best
"small system"! solutions I have heard.

Donīt know whether you have this either;

http://www.winamp.com/

but itīs worth getting it. Especially as it is free!

TL
MC

Mike[_6_] November 15th, 2007 08:12 PM

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Oops! one of those links was wrong, this is the right one;

http://www.computerhope.com/help/sound.htm

TL
MC

Mike[_6_] November 15th, 2007 08:32 PM

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Sorry, you know how I hate to reply to my own posts, but hereīs one
especially for LaCourse, ( Donīt think Fortenberry needs one now? )

http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/ne...yer-dogs.phtml

TL
MC

rb608 November 17th, 2007 01:15 PM

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"rb608" wrote in message
Yes, I did remove it via device manager & let it re-detect & re-
install it on reboot. The system thinks it's there, but no audio.
I'm not actually sure what event prompted it; but I don't believe is
was a Windows update. God knows what the kids may have installed.


Well, this Pandora thread prompted me to finally take care of this pesky
problem; and I broke down & called Dell tech support. The helpful Indian
fellow patiently walked me through all of the preliminary idiot questions
("are your speakers plugged in?) before getting down to the serious system
diagnostics.

A pretty nifty (and alarmingly vulnerable) piece of software was downloaded
& installed that allowed him to control my PC from whatever Indian tech
support sweatshop he was in; and I could sit back and watch him go through
all of the same diagnostics I'd already tried. He was getting nowhere, just
like me. Finally, he got down to connections. What port is the speaker
plugged in to? The green one. What color is the plug for the speakers?
White. Etc.

It was somewhere in this exchange, as I was crouched on the floor under a
desk, that the light bulb began to glow. The kids have plugged the speakers
in to the speaker port. As logical as that seems (and seemed to me), they
forgot about the sound card. I don't know when they made the switch, but
the speakers should be plugged in to the speaker port on the Audigy card,
not the motherboard. D'oh!

It's impossible to read which port is which on the six available, So I crank
up some Reel Big Fish and have offspring #2 try all of them. To my
surprise, nothing. I really thought that was going to be it. Damn. But,
something about this process prompted me to trace the speaker input cable,
an lo and behold, that wasn't the speaker input cable at all; the speaker
cable had been plugged into the headphone jack on the front of the tower.

A few trial and errors, and music suddenly blared forth. Problem solved.

In the end, it turned out there were two issues, which made both more
difficut to isolate. The wrong cable was plugged in to the wrong port, and
the right cable was also plugged into a different wrong port. And I'm an
idiot for not checking and assuming the kids had it right.

Now, let's check out this Pandora thing.....

Joe F.



riverman November 18th, 2007 01:47 AM

OT Pandora
 
On Nov 16, 1:00 am, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:18:43 -0800, "Tom Nakashima"

wrote:
Interesting, I've heard of the Ahmad Jamal Trio and Misty, but didn't
know the ties to Brubeck.


There isn't a tie between Jamal and Brubeck. I entered Brubeck as my
favorite, and it then selects other things besides Brubeck, including
Jamal, Oscar Peterson, Mulligan, Miles Davis, etc. It did wander off
a time or two and I had to manually correct it, but it is a pretty
neat station, especially the new Brubeck album.

My first Jamal album was bought in Japan in 1958.

Dave


I had a similar problem a while ago. It had something to do with the
mute button on the audio control panel. It was an endless PITA, but
eventually went away when my motherboard fried.

--riverman


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