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[email protected] November 29th, 2007 08:44 PM

DIY Fly Fishing in Patagonia (argentina / chile)?
 
Does anyone have any idea where I might find information about do-it-
yourself fly fishing in Argentina / Chile / Patagonia?

I'm trying to book a last minute fly fishing adventure for over the
Xmas break. I have money, but not a ton of it, and I don't really
like going out with guides anyway, and have zero need for fancy
lodges, so I'd love to do it myself... but so far I've had trouble
finding any info, books or articles or anything, about actually doing
it yourself.

And even if I did go the lodge route, there's a bewildering array to
choose from.

Anyone have any advice?!

Thanks ahead of time for your thoughts!

Best, Tim

Dave LaCourse November 29th, 2007 09:07 PM

DIY Fly Fishing in Patagonia (argentina / chile)?
 
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:44:06 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Does anyone have any idea where I might find information about do-it-
yourself fly fishing in Argentina / Chile / Patagonia?


I would be surprised if there is such info available. The trouble
being that Pantagonia (Chile and Argentina) is not very well
populated. Most of the fishing in that area would be from either a
lodge or an outfitter. A major problem would be getting to the rivers
from the last aiport you fly into. Most lodges/outfitters pick you up
and the drive in can be several hours.

A do-it-yourself in Alaska is easy, and there are several outfitters
that will do it for you. I have not heard of one in Patagonia,
however, and I have two friends that work there during our winter.

Best advice: google "patagonia" +"fly fishing" +"do it yourself"

Good luck. Let us know how you make out.

Dave



[email protected] November 30th, 2007 04:12 PM

DIY Fly Fishing in Patagonia (argentina / chile)?
 
Hi Dave,

I tried googling that sort of info, and was surprised to find that I
couldn't find anything. In a way, that makes it all the more
tempting, you know? Still, I was hoping for some kind of info.

I saw that there was an article written back in 2001, in Fish and Fly
Magazine, which would be a bit dated... but regardless, the back
issues of that issue have unfortunately sold out.

DIY is definitely my preference. But if it's impossible: does anyone
have any suggestions for outfitters or lodges?

(I'll have to DIY Alaska, one of these years, too. But over Xmas
break, I'd think.)


Tom Nakashima November 30th, 2007 05:04 PM

DIY Fly Fishing in Patagonia (argentina / chile)?
 

wrote in message
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Hi Dave,

I tried googling that sort of info, and was surprised to find that I
couldn't find anything. In a way, that makes it all the more
tempting, you know? Still, I was hoping for some kind of info.

I saw that there was an article written back in 2001, in Fish and Fly
Magazine, which would be a bit dated... but regardless, the back
issues of that issue have unfortunately sold out.

DIY is definitely my preference. But if it's impossible: does anyone
have any suggestions for outfitters or lodges?

(I'll have to DIY Alaska, one of these years, too. But over Xmas
break, I'd think.)


Here's a longshot;
Jack Trout and his Patagonia/Chile Guiding service.
You'll have to check his schedules, or call him.
I think he said he heads for Chile about the time you're asking for.
http://www.jacktrout.com/chile.html
-tom



Dave LaCourse November 30th, 2007 05:38 PM

DIY Fly Fishing in Patagonia (argentina / chile)?
 
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:12:08 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

DIY is definitely my preference. But if it's impossible: does anyone
have any suggestions for outfitters or lodges?


Check out the The Fly Shop in Redding California. Here's a number and
e-mail addee:

800-669-3474


They do trips to Russian, Alaska, South Seas, and Chile/Argentina.

They should be able to help you. I used them to fish Kamchatka,
Russia a couple of years ago. The are thorough and reliable.

Dave



George Adams November 30th, 2007 06:50 PM

DIY Fly Fishing in Patagonia (argentina / chile)?
 
On Nov 29, 3:44 pm, wrote:
Does anyone have any idea where I might find information about do-it-
yourself fly fishing in Argentina / Chile / Patagonia?

I'm trying to book a last minute fly fishing adventure for over the
Xmas break. I have money, but not a ton of it, and I don't really
like going out with guides anyway, and have zero need for fancy
lodges, so I'd love to do it myself... but so far I've had trouble
finding any info, books or articles or anything, about actually doing
it yourself.

And even if I did go the lodge route, there's a bewildering array to
choose from.

Anyone have any advice?!

Thanks ahead of time for your thoughts!

Best, Tim


We have a local guide who takes clients to Chile. Try www.marlablair.com.
I doubt you will have any success in organizing a trip without a guide/
outfitter.

Frank Reid[_2_] November 30th, 2007 08:14 PM

DIY Fly Fishing in Patagonia (argentina / chile)?
 
On Nov 30, 12:50 pm, George Adams wrote:
On Nov 29, 3:44 pm, wrote:





Does anyone have any idea where I might find information about do-it-
yourself fly fishing in Argentina / Chile / Patagonia?


I'm trying to book a last minute fly fishing adventure for over the
Xmas break. I have money, but not a ton of it, and I don't really
like going out with guides anyway, and have zero need for fancy
lodges, so I'd love to do it myself... but so far I've had trouble
finding any info, books or articles or anything, about actually doing
it yourself.


And even if I did go the lodge route, there's a bewildering array to
choose from.


Anyone have any advice?!


Thanks ahead of time for your thoughts!


Best, Tim


We have a local guide who takes clients to Chile. Trywww.marlablair.com.
I doubt you will have any success in organizing a trip without a guide/
outfitter.- Hide quoted text -


One of the key problems with a DIY trip is that much of the land down
there is under private ownership and folks rent large stretches of
water for fishing rights. You can easily get in mucho trouble just my
going through a gate.
Frank Reid


Frank Reid[_2_] November 30th, 2007 08:20 PM

DIY Fly Fishing in Patagonia (argentina / chile)?
 
try a google on camping national parks argentina trout
Evidently, within their parks, there are bunches places to go and
fish.
Frank Reid


Dave LaCourse November 30th, 2007 08:26 PM

DIY Fly Fishing in Patagonia (argentina / chile)?
 
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:14:45 -0800 (PST), Frank Reid
wrote:

You can easily get in mucho trouble just my
going through a gate.


If you can even *get* to the gate.



briansfly November 30th, 2007 10:09 PM

DIY Fly Fishing in Patagonia (argentina / chile)?
 
wrote:
Hi Dave,

I tried googling that sort of info, and was surprised to find that I
couldn't find anything. In a way, that makes it all the more
tempting, you know? Still, I was hoping for some kind of info.

I saw that there was an article written back in 2001, in Fish and Fly
Magazine, which would be a bit dated... but regardless, the back
issues of that issue have unfortunately sold out.

DIY is definitely my preference. But if it's impossible: does anyone
have any suggestions for outfitters or lodges?

(I'll have to DIY Alaska, one of these years, too. But over Xmas
break, I'd think.)


I believe one of the Trout Bum DVDs was of a Patagonia DIY. I know it's
doable, and have read reports from two different guys(locals) that have
done it. I'd link you over to the trip reports, but that forum has
changed, and I cannot find those reports. I'll try and see if I can dig
up an email address, or web link to one of the guys site. BTW, this same
guy has done solo, wilderness floats in Alaska, in an inflatable kayak.

brians


Willi December 1st, 2007 12:06 AM

DIY Fly Fishing in Patagonia (argentina / chile)?
 
briansfly wrote:


I believe one of the Trout Bum DVDs was of a Patagonia DIY. I know it's
doable, and have read reports from two different guys(locals) that have
done it. I'd link you over to the trip reports, but that forum has
changed, and I cannot find those reports. I'll try and see if I can dig
up an email address, or web link to one of the guys site. BTW, this same
guy has done solo, wilderness floats in Alaska, in an inflatable kayak.

brians


I corresponded with a guy that did a trip similar to the Trout Bums trip
- a month long camping/driving trip. At first he stayed in the
"national" parks but as he got more comfortable, he traveled around and
found that many landowners would allow him to camp and fish on their
land with the "payment" of a bottle of local liquor.

I sent him an email asking about giving you his email address, but the
addy I had for him is no longer in use and the email came back to me.
I'll check around a bit more and see if I can find him. He had a ball
and really liked "talking" about it. I'm sure he would be glad to give
you some tips.

He reported that speaking Spanish was a big plus but that there were
many localized areas where the people spoke another, usually European,
language. He found the culture very diverse. He drove ALOT, got along
well but avoid the bigger cities. Good food and drink. Beautiful
country. His overall impression of the fishing and the country was that
it was what he envisioned Montana was like 75 years ago. It's definitely
a possible DIY trip. It's a very big area and even during his month long
trip, he felt he just touched the very surface and said that he should
have concentrated on a smaller area. If you go for a shorter period, it
would probably be smart to limit the area you want to cover.

I'd get the Trout Bums DVD and you should be able to find some people
who have done a DIY trip down there with some creative searching on the
internet.

Report back on your trip. I'd be interested in your experiences. It's a
trip I'd like to do.

Willi

Larry L December 1st, 2007 01:05 AM

DIY Fly Fishing in Patagonia (argentina / chile)?
 

"briansfly" wrote


I believe one of the Trout Bum DVDs was of a Patagonia DIY. I know it's
doable, and have read reports from two different guys(locals) that have
done it.
brians


My kid is going to Chile to study next year ... I really had no idea it had
good trout fishing ..... maybe I'll visit him after all G ... his minor is
Spanish, maybe I can get something out of all this college money I've spent
G



MajorOz December 1st, 2007 02:15 AM

DIY Fly Fishing in Patagonia (argentina / chile)?
 
On Nov 30, 4:09 pm, briansfly wrote:
wrote:
Hi Dave,


I tried googling that sort of info, and was surprised to find that I
couldn't find anything. In a way, that makes it all the more
tempting, you know? Still, I was hoping for some kind of info.


I saw that there was an article written back in 2001, in Fish and Fly
Magazine, which would be a bit dated... but regardless, the back
issues of that issue have unfortunately sold out.


DIY is definitely my preference. But if it's impossible: does anyone
have any suggestions for outfitters or lodges?


(I'll have to DIY Alaska, one of these years, too. But over Xmas
break, I'd think.)


I believe one of the Trout Bum DVDs was of a Patagonia DIY. I know it's
doable, and have read reports from two different guys(locals) that have
done it. I'd link you over to the trip reports, but that forum has
changed, and I cannot find those reports. I'll try and see if I can dig
up an email address, or web link to one of the guys site. BTW, this same
guy has done solo, wilderness floats in Alaska, in an inflatable kayak.

brians


Is this Trout Bum the guy who, some 20 years ago, lived in Lake George
CO and specialized in the South Platt and its tribs? Google seemed to
turn up "generic" trout bums.

cheers

oz, who still has some very old cassette tapes by the Lake George guy

riverman December 1st, 2007 02:59 AM

DIY Fly Fishing in Patagonia (argentina / chile)?
 
On Nov 30, 4:44 am, wrote:
Does anyone have any idea where I might find information about do-it-
yourself fly fishing in Argentina / Chile / Patagonia?

I'm trying to book a last minute fly fishing adventure for over the
Xmas break. I have money, but not a ton of it, and I don't really
like going out with guides anyway, and have zero need for fancy
lodges, so I'd love to do it myself... but so far I've had trouble
finding any info, books or articles or anything, about actually doing
it yourself.

And even if I did go the lodge route, there's a bewildering array to
choose from.

Anyone have any advice?!

Thanks ahead of time for your thoughts!

Best, Tim


Check out this read:

http://patrickdowd.com/patagonia/

I googled "patagonia" and "public fishing" and got some good hits.

I think you'd have no problem at all if you rented a car, took camping
gear, and got a good road map. You might not find the BEST water in
the country, but you'll have a great time fishing around the country,
and have some nice personal experiences.

Let us know how the search (and trip) goes.

--riverman

[email protected] December 1st, 2007 06:49 AM

DIY Fly Fishing in Patagonia (argentina / chile)?
 

On 30-Nov-2007, Frank Reid wrote:

m trying to book a last minute fly fishing adventure for over the
Xmas break. I have money, but not a ton of it, and I don't really
like going out with guides anyway, and have zero need for fancy
lodges, so I'd love to do it myself... but so far I've had trouble
finding any info, books or articles or anything, about actually doing
it yourself.


And even if I did go the lodge route, there's a bewildering array to
choose from.


Anyone have any advice?!


Thanks ahead of time for your thoughts!


Best, Tim


This is a trip that we plan on doing in the next year or 2 probably in
December
We will go the lodge route as I if will be spending this kind of money - I
would have to take my wife and she would enjoy it more with lodges
There is a dizzying array but we are trying to stay off the main route esp a
place like the Explora lodge

http://www.intrans.cl/premiumtravel/...onia/index.htm

Luckily we do speak some Spanish
I have taken note and bookmarked some of the outfitters that were mentioned
in this thread - thanks

I have a list of bookmarks for lodges and outfiiters for Patafonia -
Argentina and Chile
I would like to do both countries but limiting ourselves to an area or 2
might be best.

I originally wanted to fish for sea run Trout in Tierra Del Fuego but I am
told that the winds and the weather are not the best esp for flyfishing

If you decide to go the lodge route I will share them w you
Good luck on a DYI trip

Fred

Larry L December 4th, 2007 08:42 PM

DIY Fly Fishing in Patagonia (argentina / chile)?
 

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Does anyone have any idea where I might find information about do-it-
yourself fly fishing in Argentina / Chile / Patagonia?



This site specifically mentions the DIY angler

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