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The Trans-America Water Grid: Not just for the arid west anymore
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The Trans-America Water Grid: Not just for the arid west anymore
On Dec 19, 12:38 pm, Halfordian Golfer wrote:
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...15/missed_1216... Well I hope we stick to regional basin-specific solutions and "force" people to adapt to the local environment they live in, but in the story an interesting item: "After 16 years of studies and fights, federal and state officials concluded [a second dam on the Chattahoochee] was too costly, thanks to inflation, increased land prices and the risk of lawsuits. Environmentalists declared victory after years of warning that the project would cost too much and destroy a scenic stretch of the river known for trout fishing." I guess "we" took a "let them drink cake" position... Jon. |
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"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...ssed_1216.html Your pal, TBone So, help us out here........should the folks in Atlanta be sending you water? Or are you volunteering to fill up the back of your car and head east? Wolfgang |
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On Dec 19, 1:36 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...15/missed_1216... Your pal, TBone So, help us out here........should the folks in Atlanta be sending you water? Or are you volunteering to fill up the back of your car and head east? Wolfgang No, I'm saying that there is always too much water somewhere and not enough somewhere else. This year saw record rainfall and flooding in Texas. This is a simple (well, solvable) plumbing problem. I am astounded that we do not have a reliable water grid. There is no excuse. I believe we need a new CCC. Instead of Iraq we build the water grid. Your pal, Halfordian Golfer A cash flow runs through it. |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:41:38 -0800 (PST), Halfordian Golfer
wrote: On Dec 19, 1:36 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote: "Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...15/missed_1216... Your pal, TBone So, help us out here........should the folks in Atlanta be sending you water? Or are you volunteering to fill up the back of your car and head east? Wolfgang No, I'm saying that there is always too much water somewhere and not enough somewhere else. This year saw record rainfall and flooding in Texas. This is a simple (well, solvable) plumbing problem. I am astounded that we do not have a reliable water grid. There is no excuse. I believe we need a new CCC. Instead of Iraq we build the water grid. Well, hell, if that was the equation in toto, you'd have every last bit of my support! /daytripper (but it ain't, so you don't. sorry ;-) |
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"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... On Dec 19, 1:36 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote: "Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...15/missed_1216... Your pal, TBone So, help us out here........should the folks in Atlanta be sending you water? Or are you volunteering to fill up the back of your car and head east? Wolfgang No, I'm saying that there is always too much water somewhere and not enough somewhere else. Well, you're wrong. There is never "not enough" water anywhere. There's too many people there......sort of like wherever you are. This year saw record rainfall and flooding in Texas. This is a simple (well, solvable) plumbing problem. Simpler than you suppose. It's already been solved. The solution is a watershed. All you need for the installation and operation one of these is a bit of topography. With that in place, the water manages to find its way downhill. We've had them up here for years now. In the absence of topography, the solution is even simpler.......a lake. We've got those, too. You could acquire some of those through the simple expedient of exporting some of your excess topography to places where it is in short supply......say, Texas or Georgia, for example. In fact, EVERYBODY'S topography problems could easily be solved by the establishment of a national topography grid. But wait!, it gets better! There isn't even a need to establish such a grid. Seriously. It's ALREADY THERE! Railroads! Yep. Not only has the national topography grid already been in place for over a century, it is grossly underutilized. Distributing topography, on an as needed basis, would not only solve the immediate problem, it would also boost the economy by providing a huge and highly stable industry which would replace many of the jobs lost to overseas competition in manufacturing, and would be (since both supply and demand would be entirely domestic) immune to fluctuations caused by global economic factors. I am astounded that we do not have a reliable water grid. Thus demonstrating that you are as easily astounded as baffled. There is no excuse. Almost certainly a consequence of the fact that there has never been a hint of need for one. I believe we need a new CCC. Out of the mouths of babes.... Instead of Iraq we build the water grid. Idiot. Your pal, Liar. Halfordian Golfer A cash flow runs through it. Guilt debased the meal. Wolfgang |
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On Dec 20, 7:51 am, "Peter A. Collin"
wrote: astounded that we do not have a reliable water grid. There is no excuse. I believe we need a new CCC. Instead of Iraq we build the water grid. Great idea. then the whole country could share an enjoy zebra mussels, spiny water fleas, ruffe gobies, leaping carp, rock snot, VHS disease, whirling disease, and god knows what else. Pete Collin That is quite a leap Pete. These are challenges, nothing more. TBone |
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"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... On Dec 20, 7:51 am, "Peter A. Collin" wrote: astounded that we do not have a reliable water grid. There is no excuse. I believe we need a new CCC. Instead of Iraq we build the water grid. Great idea. then the whole country could share an enjoy zebra mussels, spiny water fleas, ruffe gobies, leaping carp, rock snot, VHS disease, whirling disease, and god knows what else. Pete Collin That is quite a leap Pete. These are challenges, nothing more. One assumes you have never encountered thousands of tons of challenge rotting on a Lake Michigan beach under the hot August sun. Moron. Wolfgang |
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On Dec 20, 7:24 am, "Wolfgang" wrote:
In the absence of topography, the solution is even simpler.......a lake. We've got those, too. You could acquire some of those through the simple expedient of exporting some of your excess topography to places where it is in short supply......say, Texas or Georgia, for example. In fact, EVERYBODY'S topography problems could easily be solved by the establishment of a national topography grid. But wait!, it gets better! There isn't even a need to establish such a grid. Seriously. It's ALREADY THERE! Railroads! Yep. Not only has the national topography grid already been in place for over a century, it is grossly underutilized. Distributing topography, on an as needed basis, would not only solve the immediate problem, it would also boost the economy by providing a huge and highly stable industry which would replace many of the jobs lost to overseas competition in manufacturing, and would be (since both supply and demand would be entirely domestic) immune to fluctuations caused by global economic factors. Sure, but useless without water and power. Your pal, Halfordian Golfer |
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"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... On Dec 20, 7:24 am, "Wolfgang" wrote: In the absence of topography, the solution is even simpler.......a lake. We've got those, too. You could acquire some of those through the simple expedient of exporting some of your excess topography to places where it is in short supply......say, Texas or Georgia, for example. In fact, EVERYBODY'S topography problems could easily be solved by the establishment of a national topography grid. But wait!, it gets better! There isn't even a need to establish such a grid. Seriously. It's ALREADY THERE! Railroads! Yep. Not only has the national topography grid already been in place for over a century, it is grossly underutilized. Distributing topography, on an as needed basis, would not only solve the immediate problem, it would also boost the economy by providing a huge and highly stable industry which would replace many of the jobs lost to overseas competition in manufacturing, and would be (since both supply and demand would be entirely domestic) immune to fluctuations caused by global economic factors. Sure, but useless without water and power. Who needs power when you can siphon water across a continent and up a mile high grade? Imbecile. Wolfgang |
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On Dec 20, 9:49 am, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... On Dec 20, 7:24 am, "Wolfgang" wrote: In the absence of topography, the solution is even simpler.......a lake. We've got those, too. You could acquire some of those through the simple expedient of exporting some of your excess topography to places where it is in short supply......say, Texas or Georgia, for example. In fact, EVERYBODY'S topography problems could easily be solved by the establishment of a national topography grid. But wait!, it gets better! There isn't even a need to establish such a grid. Seriously. It's ALREADY THERE! Railroads! Yep. Not only has the national topography grid already been in place for over a century, it is grossly underutilized. Distributing topography, on an as needed basis, would not only solve the immediate problem, it would also boost the economy by providing a huge and highly stable industry which would replace many of the jobs lost to overseas competition in manufacturing, and would be (since both supply and demand would be entirely domestic) immune to fluctuations caused by global economic factors. Sure, but useless without water and power. Who needs power when you can siphon water across a continent and up a mile high grade? Imbecile. Wolfgang The theoretical point of view of stepping water nowithstanding power isn't generally an issue because the grid does exist but also because it exists in the form of solar, wind and batteries at the locale need to step the water. Your pal, Halfordian Golfer It is impossible to catch and release a wild trout. |
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"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... On Dec 20, 9:49 am, "Wolfgang" wrote: "Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... On Dec 20, 7:24 am, "Wolfgang" wrote: In the absence of topography, the solution is even simpler.......a lake. We've got those, too. You could acquire some of those through the simple expedient of exporting some of your excess topography to places where it is in short supply......say, Texas or Georgia, for example. In fact, EVERYBODY'S topography problems could easily be solved by the establishment of a national topography grid. But wait!, it gets better! There isn't even a need to establish such a grid. Seriously. It's ALREADY THERE! Railroads! Yep. Not only has the national topography grid already been in place for over a century, it is grossly underutilized. Distributing topography, on an as needed basis, would not only solve the immediate problem, it would also boost the economy by providing a huge and highly stable industry which would replace many of the jobs lost to overseas competition in manufacturing, and would be (since both supply and demand would be entirely domestic) immune to fluctuations caused by global economic factors. Sure, but useless without water and power. Who needs power when you can siphon water across a continent and up a mile high grade? Imbecile. Wolfgang The theoretical point of view of stepping water nowithstanding power isn't generally an issue because the grid does exist but also because it exists in the form of solar, wind and batteries at the locale need to step the water. Do you suppose I'm the only person here who has read this without noticing the oh so subtle change in terminology? :) Your pal, Halfordian Golfer It is impossible to catch and release a wild trout. Wrong, stupid, hackneyed......and just plain wrong. Wolfgang |
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On Dec 20, 9:45 am, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... On Dec 20, 7:51 am, "Peter A. Collin" wrote: astounded that we do not have a reliable water grid. There is no excuse. I believe we need a new CCC. Instead of Iraq we build the water grid. Great idea. then the whole country could share an enjoy zebra mussels, spiny water fleas, ruffe gobies, leaping carp, rock snot, VHS disease, whirling disease, and god knows what else. Pete Collin That is quite a leap Pete. These are challenges, nothing more. One assumes you have never encountered thousands of tons of challenge rotting on a Lake Michigan beach under the hot August sun. Moron. Wolfgang Yes, in fact, I have. On the other hand I hear the water in the Muskegon river is crystalline. But, we digress, this discussion is simply about plumbing. It amazes me that folkes would argue against a better water management system when we have so many problems with the one(s) we have. Your pal, Halfordian Golfer Water flows uphill, towards money. |
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"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... On Dec 20, 9:45 am, "Wolfgang" wrote: "Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... On Dec 20, 7:51 am, "Peter A. Collin" wrote: astounded that we do not have a reliable water grid. There is no excuse. I believe we need a new CCC. Instead of Iraq we build the water grid. Great idea. then the whole country could share an enjoy zebra mussels, spiny water fleas, ruffe gobies, leaping carp, rock snot, VHS disease, whirling disease, and god knows what else. Pete Collin That is quite a leap Pete. These are challenges, nothing more. One assumes you have never encountered thousands of tons of challenge rotting on a Lake Michigan beach under the hot August sun. Moron. Wolfgang Yes, in fact, I have. On the other hand I hear the water in the Muskegon river is crystalline. But, we digress, this discussion is simply about plumbing. It amazes me that folkes would argue against a better water management system when we have so many problems with the one(s) we have. The evidence suggests that to your dying day you will never understand that (let alone why) your amazement does nothing to illuminate the issues that engender it, but speaks volumes about your own personal issues. Your pal, Halfordian Golfer Water flows uphill, towards money. Case in point......you don't have any idea at all what of you've just said here. :) Wolfgang |
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On Dec 19, 11:38*am, Halfordian Golfer wrote:
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...15/missed_1216... Your pal, TBone We could just hire the Chinese to do it for us. They have a couple of projects under way. They make and build everything else for us. http://www.water-technology.net/projects/south_north/ In the next 19 years or so they are supposed to have 25 million men between the ages of 18 and 25 with nothing to do but invade Siberia and secure natural resources. Threr will be an extra 10 million or so to dig a canal from ___________ to down south somewhere. There is plenty of water flowing into the east side of Jame Bay and there is hydro power to pump it. It's not doing much good up there. A few whales and polar bears etc. It's easy project, all you need is a swath of land about a 1/4 mile wide and 2400 miles long. There are no projects to big, just imaginations to small. The real question is why? The land of the right-wing, neocon Bu****es is being punished by God. The envrionment you ignore and trash today bites you in the ass tomorrow. They should just accept fate and learn to live with it. You want to see Atanta in a 100 years? Go to Phoneix, Tripoli or Bagdad. |
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On Dec 21, 11:34 am, BJ Conner wrote:
On Dec 19, 11:38 am, Halfordian Golfer wrote: http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...15/missed_1216... Your pal, TBone We could just hire the Chinese to do it for us. They have a couple of projects under way. They make and build everything else for us.http://www.water-technology.net/projects/south_north/ In the next 19 years or so they are supposed to have 25 million men between the ages of 18 and 25 with nothing to do but invade Siberia and secure natural resources. Threr will be an extra 10 million or so to dig a canal from ___________ to down south somewhere. There is plenty of water flowing into the east side of Jame Bay and there is hydro power to pump it. It's not doing much good up there. A few whales and polar bears etc. It's easy project, all you need is a swath of land about a 1/4 mile wide and 2400 miles long. There are no projects to big, just imaginations to small. The real question is why? The land of the right-wing, neocon Bu****es is being punished by God. The envrionment you ignore and trash today bites you in the ass tomorrow. They should just accept fate and learn to live with it. You want to see Atanta in a 100 years? Go to Phoneix, Tripoli or Bagdad. Probably reasonable to assume that a 'singular' project conducted by the states to connect a national grid in a comprehensive plan would do less environmental damage than all the one-off plans that would otherwise emerge to band-aid the problem. Your pal, Halfordian Golfer A cash flow runs through it |
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"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... It amazes me that folkes would argue against a better water management system when we have so many problems with the one(s) we have. because, more often than not, when we **** with nature, it ultimately ****s us back.....worse. Tom |
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Tom Littleton wrote:
"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... It amazes me that folkes would argue against a better water management system when we have so many problems with the one(s) we have. because, more often than not, when we **** with nature, it ultimately ****s us back.....worse. Tom speaking of that...have you set the penns dates yet? need to get my secured leave established for 2008. jeff |
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"jeff" wrote in message ... speaking of that...have you set the penns dates yet? need to get my secured leave established for 2008. jeff the week leading up to Memorial Day. Secure away, my friend. Tom |
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On Dec 21, 3:52 pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... It amazes me that folkes would argue against a better water management system when we have so many problems with the one(s) we have. because, more often than not, when we **** with nature, it ultimately ****s us back.....worse. Tom I guess I don't understand your meaning. Since when is man not a part of nature and who said anything about ****ing with nature (at least any more than we have to date)? If we are to exist as a species, in any capacity, we will, invariably, completely and incessantly '****' with nature. I guess the best we can hope to do is to do those things that create a positive influence on our ability to manage the other things properly. When you're in a mess of sewage and drought, well, let's just say 'trout die' as a metaphor. In our panic to control local and regional issues we do **** nature while simultaneously not solving anything. Salmon get confused by the concrete and die without spawning, again as a metaphor. So, it's flooding down in Texas (RIP Stevie Ray) or in Louisiana and the water runs in to massive underground tanks in the grid to reappear in North Carolina where the cricks holding the beloved national treasure brookies would otherwise dry up. Espousing an attitude of 'living in a cave' just won't git 'er done. Your pal, TBone |
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On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 07:44:19 -0800 (PST), Halfordian Golfer
wrote: On Dec 21, 3:52 pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote: "Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... It amazes me that folkes would argue against a better water management system when we have so many problems with the one(s) we have. because, more often than not, when we **** with nature, it ultimately ****s us back.....worse. Tom I guess I don't understand your meaning. Since when is man not a part of nature and who said anything about ****ing with nature (at least any more than we have to date)? If we are to exist as a species, in any capacity, we will, invariably, completely and incessantly '****' with nature. I guess the best we can hope to do is to do those things that create a positive influence on our ability to manage the other things properly. When you're in a mess of sewage and drought, well, let's just say 'trout die' as a metaphor. In our panic to control local and regional issues we do **** nature while simultaneously not solving anything. Salmon get confused by the concrete and die without spawning, again as a metaphor. So, it's flooding down in Texas (RIP Stevie Ray) or in Louisiana and the water runs in to massive underground tanks in the grid to reappear in North Carolina where the cricks holding the beloved national treasure brookies would otherwise dry up. Espousing an attitude of 'living in a cave' just won't git 'er done. Your pal, TBone As I understand it, one of, if not THE, reason(s) Atlanta is having water "problems" is because there are too many people for the water there (or that would be there if man hadn't attempted to "solve" a water "problem") and man attempted to "fix" the situation to his liking. Man also attempted to "fix" the "problems" perceived with the Mississippi River and look what it has done to south Louisiana. And much of the flooding in Texas is a result of man "solving" water problems. I'd offer it would be much easier (and better) to redistribute man than the water, or, if people simply insist on living in areas in which the conditions are not to their liking, they are left to endure the situation. If one doesn't want their home wiped out by a hurricane, don't build that home on a beach in a hurricane zone. If one doesn't want their home burned up in a wildfire, don't build it in a wildfire zone. And if one doesn't like dry conditions, don't live in a dry area. I strongly suspect the same sumbitches that makes some folks read posts they absolutely don't wish to read and then bitch about the content makes some folks live in areas they find not to their liking and then bitch about the conditions... Happy Holidays, R |
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On Dec 22, 9:28 am, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 07:44:19 -0800 (PST), Halfordian Golfer wrote: On Dec 21, 3:52 pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote: "Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... It amazes me that folkes would argue against a better water management system when we have so many problems with the one(s) we have. because, more often than not, when we **** with nature, it ultimately ****s us back.....worse. Tom I guess I don't understand your meaning. Since when is man not a part of nature and who said anything about ****ing with nature (at least any more than we have to date)? If we are to exist as a species, in any capacity, we will, invariably, completely and incessantly '****' with nature. I guess the best we can hope to do is to do those things that create a positive influence on our ability to manage the other things properly. When you're in a mess of sewage and drought, well, let's just say 'trout die' as a metaphor. In our panic to control local and regional issues we do **** nature while simultaneously not solving anything. Salmon get confused by the concrete and die without spawning, again as a metaphor. So, it's flooding down in Texas (RIP Stevie Ray) or in Louisiana and the water runs in to massive underground tanks in the grid to reappear in North Carolina where the cricks holding the beloved national treasure brookies would otherwise dry up. Espousing an attitude of 'living in a cave' just won't git 'er done. Your pal, TBone As I understand it, one of, if not THE, reason(s) Atlanta is having water "problems" is because there are too many people for the water there (or that would be there if man hadn't attempted to "solve" a water "problem") and man attempted to "fix" the situation to his liking. Man also attempted to "fix" the "problems" perceived with the Mississippi River and look what it has done to south Louisiana. And much of the flooding in Texas is a result of man "solving" water problems. I'd offer it would be much easier (and better) to redistribute man than the water, or, if people simply insist on living in areas in which the conditions are not to their liking, they are left to endure the situation. If one doesn't want their home wiped out by a hurricane, don't build that home on a beach in a hurricane zone. If one doesn't want their home burned up in a wildfire, don't build it in a wildfire zone. And if one doesn't like dry conditions, don't live in a dry area. I strongly suspect the same sumbitches that makes some folks read posts they absolutely don't wish to read and then bitch about the content makes some folks live in areas they find not to their liking and then bitch about the conditions... Happy Holidays, R As a practical matter dude, what, should we be nomadic? Washington state was under water the other day. Should they all move? Or, are you suggesting some aspect of drastic population reduction akin to The Georgia Guidestones? Your pal, TBone |
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"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... On Dec 22, 9:28 am, wrote: On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 07:44:19 -0800 (PST), Halfordian Golfer Washington state was under water the other day. Should they all move? snip Your pal, TBone No, Washington state wasn't underwater, a small portion of the western one third of the state was underwater. Meanwhile, most of the other two thirds of the state was as arid as Colorado. Why? Because a little thing like the Cascade Range, which creates a rain shadow, means the dollar cost (let alone the environmental costs) of man moving the "excess" water across the mountains outweighs the benefits. The majority of the residents on both sides of the mountains, though they don't like the consequences of floods or drought, are not willing to bankrupt themselves or totally disrupt their environment to change the situation - unlike some idiots who are so arrogant that they propose fully controlling a system, about which they have amply demonstrated cluelessness and are incapable of even understanding how complex the system is. Timmy, Heres a hint to get you started on the road to enlightenment: You cannot change JUST one thing in nature. The natural world is an interconnected web of relationships, and we are only just beginning to understand how the parts interact with each other and are affected by changes in other, even seemingly unrelated, parts of the web. Major changes (e.g. a national water grid) create major changes throughout the entire system, most of which we can't even begin to anticipate. As you stated earlier, man is a part of nature, but he is far less in control of it or able to control it than most (especially people with your mindset) seem to think. And no, that doesn't mean we should retreat to caves and be afraid to change anything. It just means that before we undertake massive changes ( e.g. national water grids, atomic bombs, etc.) with potentially even more massive consequences than intended, we should think long & hard about the risks versus the rewards, and discard those ideas that, even with our limited knowledge of the situation, don't pencil out. Bob Weinberger La Grande, OR |
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Bob Weinberger wrote:
No, Washington state wasn't underwater, a small portion of the western one third of the state was underwater. Meanwhile, most of the other two thirds of the state was as arid as Colorado. Why? Because a little thing like the Cascade Range, which creates a rain shadow, means the dollar cost (let alone the environmental costs) of man moving the "excess" water across the mountains outweighs the benefits. Yeah, but Bob, the Columbia moves a WHOLE LOT of water from one side of the Cascades to the other. So, see, if we just had a big switch, and turned it around for 8 hours a day..... - JR (always glad to be of help) |
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wrote in message ... If one doesn't want their home wiped out by a hurricane, don't build that home on a beach in a hurricane zone. If one doesn't want their home burned up in a wildfire, don't build it in a wildfire zone. And if one doesn't like dry conditions, don't live in a dry area. I strongly suspect the same sumbitches that makes some folks read posts they absolutely don't wish to read and then bitch about the content makes some folks live in areas they find not to their liking and then bitch about the conditions... Happy Holidays, R and Happy Holidays to you, as well.....and God bless you for having the enduring patience to explain to Tim what should have been obvious all along. By the way, Tim, what happens to biodiversity when we even all the water out?? I suppose in your world-view, the actual environment doesn't matter, it just exists for you to tinker with to YOUR idea of ideality. In mine, I don't know for sure, but suspect that the variation in climate and such within the system might well serve some purpose that I don't understand. Thus, I am reluctant to try and "fix" something whose workings I don't know, and know absolutely......especially given that I am not the only lifeform sharing that system. Tom |
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On Dec 22, 2:02*pm, JR wrote:
Bob Weinberger wrote: No, Washington state wasn't underwater, a small portion of the western one third of the state was underwater. *Meanwhile, most of the other two thirds of the state was as arid as Colorado. Why? *Because a little thing like the Cascade Range, which creates a rain shadow, *means the dollar cost *(let alone the environmental costs) of man moving the "excess" water across the mountains outweighs the benefits. Yeah, but Bob, the Columbia moves a WHOLE LOT of water from one side of the Cascades to the other. So, see, if we just had a big switch, and turned it around for 8 hours a day..... - JR (always glad to be of help) The big switch is in the sky.. From here to far north Canokastan the gray clouds go east almost daily. They drop a little rain here but most carry water over the mountains to the headwaters of the Columbia. If we could only find a way to put the clouds in big bags and tow them down south. Speaking of floods the Bretz floods may not have been the biggest that ever happened. Here's is an interesting artical about the Kuray- Altari mountain floods in Siberia and Central Asia. http://www.mines.edu/academic/geolog...docs/Altai.pdf |
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Hey...I live near Lake Erie...I have a 65 gallon water tank you could use to
haul water back and forth................ "Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... On Dec 19, 1:36 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote: "Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...15/missed_1216... Your pal, TBone So, help us out here........should the folks in Atlanta be sending you water? Or are you volunteering to fill up the back of your car and head east? Wolfgang No, I'm saying that there is always too much water somewhere and not enough somewhere else. This year saw record rainfall and flooding in Texas. This is a simple (well, solvable) plumbing problem. I am astounded that we do not have a reliable water grid. There is no excuse. I believe we need a new CCC. Instead of Iraq we build the water grid. Your pal, Halfordian Golfer A cash flow runs through it. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Tom Littleton wrote:
"jeff" wrote speaking of that...have you set the penns dates yet? need to get my secured leave established for 2008. the week leading up to Memorial Day. Secure away, my friend. Top three dries to tie for that week? March Brown? Gray Fox? ? - JR |
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"JR" wrote in message ... Top three dries to tie for that week? March Brown? Gray Fox? ? - JR 1. Sulfurs 2. Sulfurs 3 Sulfurs sure, carry March Browns,Tan Caddis, Green Drakes and Grey Foxes, spinners for all, terrestrials and stonefly nymphs, too. Did I mention Sulfurs? Tom |
The Trans-America Water Grid: Not just for the arid west anymore
On Dec 24, 6:24 am, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"JR" wrote in message ... Top three dries to tie for that week? March Brown? Gray Fox? ? - JR 1. Sulfurs 2. Sulfurs 3 Sulfurs sure, carry March Browns,Tan Caddis, Green Drakes and Grey Foxes, spinners for all, terrestrials and stonefly nymphs, too. Did I mention Sulfurs? Tom Do you have a good sulfur tie to share? TBone |
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