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On Jan 31, 9:04*am, wrote:
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Great - another waste of money, that we don't have that our children
and their children can pay back. Silver Falls is a nice state park but
hardly in the same league with Yosmite, Crater Lake etc.
Ditto for Mt. St Helens. St Helens is pretty limited in what you can
do there. You can drive up and look at the mountain ( about 2 days
out of 5 ) or look at the inside of a cloud while trying to look at
the mountain. It wasn't that interesting before the mountain blew -
up, now there is even less access.
I would be in favor of St Helens if they would let people hike up to
and in the crater. The trouble with america today is we shield to
many people from Darwins Law. To many stupid people survive and breed.

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"BJ Conner" wrote in message
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On Jan 31, 9:04 am, wrote:
http://wedeserveapark.blogspot.com/2...-national-park...

Great - another waste of money, that we don't have that our children
and their children can pay back. Silver Falls is a nice state park but
hardly in the same league with Yosmite, Crater Lake etc.
Ditto for Mt. St Helens. St Helens is pretty limited in what you can
do there. You can drive up and look at the mountain ( about 2 days
out of 5 ) or look at the inside of a cloud while trying to look at
the mountain. It wasn't that interesting before the mountain blew -
up, now there is even less access.
I would be in favor of St Helens if they would let people hike up to
and in the crater. The trouble with america today is we shield to
many people from Darwins Law. To many stupid people survive and breed.


It does seem to be a bit of a waste. I mean, for the money it's going to
cost we could probably have a nice little war against a small village
somewhere in the world where everybody doesn't hate all Americans yet.

Wolfgang

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On Jan 31, 9:31 am, BJ Conner wrote:
On Jan 31, 9:04 am, wrote:

http://wedeserveapark.blogspot.com/2...-national-park...

Great - another waste of money, that we don't have that our children
and their children can pay back. Silver Falls is a nice state park but
hardly in the same league with Yosmite, Crater Lake etc.
Ditto for Mt. St Helens. St Helens is pretty limited in what you can
do there. You can drive up and look at the mountain ( about 2 days
out of 5 ) or look at the inside of a cloud while trying to look at
the mountain. It wasn't that interesting before the mountain blew -
up, now there is even less access.
I would be in favor of St Helens if they would let people hike up to
and in the crater. The trouble with america today is we shield to
many people from Darwins Law. To many stupid people survive and breed.

I don't really see the difference...except the feds seem to be more
inclined to charge admission.

For the record, you can hike to the top of Mt St Helens, you just
can't enter the crater. The best view of the crater is from the top
anyway.
- Ken

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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I mean, for the money it's going to cost we could probably have a nice
little war against a small village somewhere in the world where everybody
doesn't hate all Americans yet.

in other words, someplace in Canada?
Tom

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" wrote in message
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... The best view of the crater is from the top
anyway.
- Ken

the logic here is hard to argue with.
Tom

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On Jan 31, 10:45*am, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
" wrote in message

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... *The best view of the crater is from the top
anyway.
* *- Ken

the logic here is hard to argue with.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom

Except when all you can see is the inside or bottom of a cloud, which
is quite often the case.

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On Jan 31, 9:04*am, wrote:
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IF you want to spend money the Ice Age Floods Trail is a better deal.
The trail is a route throug a lot of geologic features created by the
Bretz floods. . Among other things they also carred the Willamette
Metorite from Canada where it landed to Oregon where it was
discovered. The plan is a collection of sites and interpritive
centers in Washington, Oregon, Idaho and Montana.
There are several good guide books out on the floods, they have
pictures and GPS coordinates of some pretty cool stuff. An 800 foot
high wall of water draining a lake the size of Lake Erie can create
some interesting rock piles. A lot more interesting that looking into
a rain cloud.
Trail Site
http://www.iafi.org/trail.html

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On Jan 31, 1:42*pm, " wrote:
For the record, you can hike to the top of Mt St Helens, you just
can't enter the crater. *

Not that I'd want to; but out of curiosity, how would they stop you?
Is threat of arrest the primary deterrent?

Joe F.

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"rb608" wrote in message
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On Jan 31, 1:42 pm, " wrote:
For the record, you can hike to the top of Mt St Helens, you just
can't enter the crater.

Not that I'd want to; but out of curiosity, how would they stop you?
Is threat of arrest the primary deterrent?

The last time somebody entered the crater was May 18, 1980. Remember what
happened? These guys are SERIOUS! :(

Wolfgang
who, personally, thinks it was a tad excessive.

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"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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I mean, for the money it's going to cost we could probably have a nice
little war against a small village somewhere in the world where everybody
doesn't hate all Americans yet.

in other words, someplace in Canada?

Nah, I meant somewhere outside the U.S.

Wolfgang
who knows that one of these days he's going to pay for this.

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On Jan 31, 2:43*pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
who, personally, thinks it was a tad excessive.

Maybe, but I'll bet he never does it again.

Joe F.

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"rb608" wrote in message
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On Jan 31, 2:43 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
who, personally, thinks it was a tad excessive.

Maybe, but I'll bet he never does it again.

Sorta explodes the myth about harsh sentencing having no effect on
recidivism, don't it?

Wolfgang

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On Jan 31, 4:04*pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
Sorta explodes the myth about harsh sentencing having no effect on
recidivism, don't it?

:-)

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On Jan 31, 11:12 am, BJ Conner wrote:
On Jan 31, 10:45 am, "Tom Littleton" wrote:

" wrote in message

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... The best view of the crater is from the top
anyway.
- Ken

the logic here is hard to argue with.
Tom

Except when all you can see is the inside or bottom of a cloud, which
is quite often the case.

Someone's a tad negative. Go in the summertime, it's almost always
clear.

This was in October, pushing my luck, July-Sept is best.
http://picasaweb.google.com/Outdoors...93154191268754
- Ken

This was in October.

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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:31:41 -0800 (PST), BJ Conner
wrote:

On Jan 31, 9:04*am, wrote:
http://wedeserveapark.blogspot.com/2...-national-park...

Great - another waste of money, that we don't have that our children
and their children can pay back.

Right on, brother! Why, shoot, they could take that money and lease a
whole bunch of private land so you and like-minded (and mostly white)
folks could go hunting and fishing at a reduced OOP expense...

Silver Falls is a nice state park but
hardly in the same league with Yosmite, Crater Lake etc.

Maybe they could get Cabela's to sell it...

Ditto for Mt. St Helens. St Helens is pretty limited in what you can
do there. You can drive up and look at the mountain ( about 2 days
out of 5 ) or look at the inside of a cloud while trying to look at
the mountain. It wasn't that interesting before the mountain blew -
up, now there is even less access.
I would be in favor of St Helens if they would let people hike up to
and in the crater.

And if they don't do things the way you want, maybe they could get 'em
to sell that, too...shoot, I bet some raghead oil sheik or some Jap
would just love to own him a genuine American volcano...

The trouble with america today is we shield to
many people from Darwins Law. To many stupid people survive and breed.

Now, hang on a sec...there's an idea - sell it to the chinks...they'll
just send a thousand of them little yaller *******s at a time into it
trying to turn it into a beer can mine or something, and after a whole
slew of them are dead and they ain't got no beer cans, we REAL Americans
can buy it back on the cheap...I'll bet Wong's Sports Emporium will have
the listing...

Hey, at least you're an amusing ignorant hypocrite,
R

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On Feb 1, 4:22*am, wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:31:41 -0800 (PST), BJ Conner

wrote:
On Jan 31, 9:04*am, wrote:
http://wedeserveapark.blogspot.com/2...-national-park...

Great - another waste of money, that we don't have that our children
and their children can pay back.

Right on, brother! *Why, shoot, they could take that money and lease a
whole bunch of private land so you and like-minded (and mostly white)
folks could go hunting and fishing at a reduced OOP expense...

Silver Falls is a nice state park but
hardly in the same league with Yosmite, Crater Lake etc.

Maybe they could get Cabela's to sell it...

Ditto for Mt. St Helens. *St Helens is pretty limited in what you can
do there. *You can drive up and look at the mountain ( about 2 days
out of 5 ) or look at the inside of a cloud while trying to look at
the mountain. * It wasn't that interesting before the mountain blew -
up, now there is even less access.
I would be in favor of St Helens if they would let people hike up to
and in the crater. *

And if they don't do things the way you want, maybe they could get 'em
to sell that, too...shoot, I bet some raghead oil sheik or some Jap
would just love to own him a genuine American volcano...

The trouble with america today is we shield to
many people from Darwins Law. *To many stupid people survive and breed.

Now, hang on a sec...there's an idea - sell it to the chinks...they'll
just send a thousand of them little yaller *******s at a time into it
trying to turn it into a beer can mine or something, and after a whole
slew of them are dead and they ain't got no beer cans, we REAL Americans
can buy it back on the cheap...I'll bet Wong's Sports Emporium will have
the listing...

Hey, at least you're an amusing ignorant hypocrite,
R

Being called names by you is assuring.
Here's one for you. www.votechooser.com Pol Pot and Hitler aren't
on it so 4th or 5 th choice is the best you'll do.
What are you going to do if Oboma pulls the troops back and you can't
sell pickels? In my experience you guys from Texas have a lot of
pictures of each other ****ing goats, if you have enough of them maby
you can find a position.

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rb608 wrote in news:e3e62416-c78b-4df0-8432-
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On Jan 31, 1:42*pm, " wrote:
For the record, you can hike to the top of Mt St Helens, you just
can't enter the crater. *

Not that I'd want to; but out of curiosity, how would they stop you?
Is threat of arrest the primary deterrent?

Joe F.

Well, um, yeah I guess that would be it. It's pretty hard to hide from the
law out there.

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BJ Conner wrote in
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On Jan 31, 9:04*am, wrote:
http://wedeserveapark.blogspot.com/2...-national-park.
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Great - another waste of money, that we don't have that our children
and their children can pay back. Silver Falls is a nice state park but
hardly in the same league with Yosmite, Crater Lake etc.
Ditto for Mt. St Helens. St Helens is pretty limited in what you can
do there. You can drive up and look at the mountain ( about 2 days
out of 5 ) or look at the inside of a cloud while trying to look at
the mountain. It wasn't that interesting before the mountain blew -
up, now there is even less access.
I would be in favor of St Helens if they would let people hike up to
and in the crater. The trouble with america today is we shield to
many people from Darwins Law. To many stupid people survive and
breed.

Hmmh, I guess you missed the dozens (hundreds?) of miles of spectacular
hiking trails all over the back country and the trail that circles the
mountain above timber line as well as the possibility of climbing to the
summit from the south side. Or perhaps those opportunities didn't
impress you. A substantial portion of the reason people aren't allowed
in the crater is safety but just as important is the desire to preserve
the landscape for scientific research. I realize that might not be a
potent political argument for you or the rest of the electorate but it
sure means a lot to those of us that do research out there.