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Frank Reid[_2_] March 7th, 2008 04:02 AM

San Diego
 
Any decent surf casting this time of year? Trying to figure out if I
should bring my rod when I go out there for a weeklong confernce
starting the 16th of this month.
Frank Reid

brians March 7th, 2008 06:32 PM

San Diego
 
Frank Reid wrote:

Any decent surf casting this time of year? Trying to figure out if I
should bring my rod when I go out there for a weeklong confernce
starting the 16th of this month.
Frank Reid


That's an easy one. Take your rod.

This site(especially the bulletin board)should help.

http://www.garybulla.com/

Don't let those white sand beaches fool you. It can be treacherous wading.

brians ;-)


[email protected] March 7th, 2008 07:03 PM

San Diego
 
On Mar 6, 9:02 pm, Frank Reid wrote:
Any decent surf casting this time of year? Trying to figure out if I
should bring my rod when I go out there for a weeklong confernce
starting the 16th of this month.
Frank Reid


http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008...0300819085.txt
(last five lines)

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...s4surffly.html

http://flyfishing.about.com/od/saltw.../surfperch.htm

http://www.fliflicker.com/tactics.htm

http://www.flyfishinsalt.com/techniq...bug-39237.html

Mu took me surf fishing in LA once many years ago. Slow day, among
four of us I think one perch and one corbina. Not sure I had a hit all
day. The guy who caught the corbina caught it in just a few inches of
water. Those fish would come up all the way in with a wave and then
look about for stuff stirred up in the sand. So don't immediately
dismiss the 6-inch deep water at the tail end of the wave. After
learning where to look I did see a couple of fish in that real shallow
water. Mostly we cast into the 3-5' deep water inside of the breaking
waves, though. Not sure about March, but I just fished in shorts and
sandals (May, IIRC).

Jon.

Danl[_3_] March 8th, 2008 01:40 AM

San Diego
 

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...
Any decent surf casting this time of year? Trying to figure out if I
should bring my rod when I go out there for a weeklong confernce
starting the 16th of this month.
Frank Reid


Frank, this surf casting gig is most definitely not for you. Lots and lots
and lots of walking around looking dumb, too many people on the beach that
get offended by the slightest snag by a salt water fly, and its pretty hard
to find a proper place to fish if you don't know what you're looking for.

If you have a couple of extra sheckels to spend, here's what I'd suggest:
1) Rent a sit-on-top kayak and paddle. Uhh, better rent the pfd, just in
case, y'know. There are several vendors near San Diego Bay. Be sure to call
ahead to reserve. You're not the only dumbshi....err, intelligent, but
meteriologically challenged Midwesterner, freezing his cojones off whilst
watching The Weather Channel. Strap the yak on your rent-a-wreck with some
bungees you brought from home. You're not going far. (This oughta be good!)
2) Hie thyself to Tidelands Park on San Diego Bay. Plug it into Google Maps
or some such. Tidelands Park sits underneath the west end of the Coronado
Bay Bridge.
3) Launch on the nice beach at the park near the bridge. Paddle over to the
bridge and fish around the columns numbered 8 thru 12. Also fish around the
brazillion boats moored between the beach and the bridge. When you get tired
of catching fish there, paddle south to the yacht clubs and back.
4) I suggest a 6 wt, or thereabouts, with a full sink line. Not a sink tip
line. Ten feet or so of 8-10 pound mono for a leader. No Tippet. Fish close
to the bottom.
5) I suggest using a "Super Fly, with Bling". I'd be happy to send you a
couple of examples with recipe, if you like.

Unfortunately, I have plans for that week that will keep me out of town. I
would love to see firsthand what Frank does with a kayak, first strapped to
a vehicle and then to his person. Be sure to post a TR.

Have fun,
Danl



Scott Seidman March 8th, 2008 02:22 AM

San Diego
 
Frank Reid wrote in news:4ec72201-285b-49e5-9ff8-
:

Any decent surf casting this time of year? Trying to figure out if I
should bring my rod when I go out there for a weeklong confernce
starting the 16th of this month.
Frank Reid



I don't know, but there's an amazing tequileria in the gaslamp district
that you should hit. March has an "r" in it, so tequila is in season.


--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Frank Reid[_2_] March 8th, 2008 02:46 AM

San Diego
 
Any decent surf casting this time of year? *Trying to figure out if I
should bring my rod when I go out there for a weeklong confernce
starting the 16th of this month.
Frank Reid


I don't know, but there's an amazing tequileria in the gaslamp district
that you should hit. *March has an "r" in it, so tequila is in season.


So, what your say is that tequila is only out of season when March
doesn't have an "r?"
Frank "the sun is over the yard arm somewhere" Reid

Frank Reid[_2_] March 8th, 2008 02:58 AM

San Diego
 
On Mar 7, 7:40*pm, "Danl" danlfinn@*remove this*intergate.com wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in message

...

Any decent surf casting this time of year? *Trying to figure out if I
should bring my rod when I go out there for a weeklong confernce
starting the 16th of this month.
Frank Reid


Frank, this surf casting gig is most definitely not for you. Lots and lots
and lots of walking around looking dumb, too many people on the beach that
get offended by the slightest snag by a salt water fly, and its pretty hard
to find a proper place to fish if you don't know what you're looking for.

If you have a couple of extra sheckels to spend, here's what I'd suggest:
1) Rent a sit-on-top kayak and paddle. Uhh, better rent the pfd, just in
case, y'know. There are several vendors near San Diego Bay. Be sure to call
ahead to reserve. You're not the only dumbshi....err, intelligent, but
meteriologically challenged Midwesterner, freezing his cojones off whilst
watching The Weather Channel. Strap the yak on your rent-a-wreck with some
bungees you brought from home. You're not going far. (This oughta be good!)
2) Hie thyself to Tidelands Park on San Diego Bay. Plug it into Google Maps
or some such. Tidelands Park sits underneath the west end of the Coronado
Bay Bridge.
3) Launch on the nice beach at the park near the bridge. Paddle over to the
bridge and fish around the columns numbered 8 thru 12. Also fish around the
brazillion boats moored between the beach and the bridge. When you get tired
of catching fish there, paddle south to the yacht clubs and back.
4) I suggest a 6 wt, or thereabouts, with a full sink line. Not a sink tip
line. Ten feet or so of 8-10 pound mono for a leader. No Tippet. Fish close
to the bottom.
5) I suggest using a "Super Fly, with Bling". I'd be happy to send you a
couple of examples with recipe, if you like.

Unfortunately, I have plans for that week that will keep me out of town. I
would love to see firsthand what Frank does with a kayak, first strapped to
a vehicle and then to his person. Be sure to post a TR.


Hmm, Frank on a kayak in the ocean with a water temp of 57 degrees.
What could possibly go wrong?
Got to dig around, but don't really know if I've got any full sink
lines. Will search, but we've lost our last fly shop locally (though
we do have a Cabelas and a Bass Pro).
Sounds like som fun.
Frank Reid

jeff miller[_2_] March 8th, 2008 12:36 PM

San Diego
 
Frank Reid wrote:
On Mar 7, 7:40 pm, "Danl" danlfinn@*remove this*intergate.com wrote:

"Frank Reid" wrote in message

...


Any decent surf casting this time of year? Trying to figure out if I
should bring my rod when I go out there for a weeklong confernce
starting the 16th of this month.
Frank Reid


Frank, this surf casting gig is most definitely not for you. Lots and lots
and lots of walking around looking dumb, too many people on the beach that
get offended by the slightest snag by a salt water fly, and its pretty hard
to find a proper place to fish if you don't know what you're looking for.

If you have a couple of extra sheckels to spend, here's what I'd suggest:
1) Rent a sit-on-top kayak and paddle. Uhh, better rent the pfd, just in
case, y'know. There are several vendors near San Diego Bay. Be sure to call
ahead to reserve. You're not the only dumbshi....err, intelligent, but
meteriologically challenged Midwesterner, freezing his cojones off whilst
watching The Weather Channel. Strap the yak on your rent-a-wreck with some
bungees you brought from home. You're not going far. (This oughta be good!)
2) Hie thyself to Tidelands Park on San Diego Bay. Plug it into Google Maps
or some such. Tidelands Park sits underneath the west end of the Coronado
Bay Bridge.
3) Launch on the nice beach at the park near the bridge. Paddle over to the
bridge and fish around the columns numbered 8 thru 12. Also fish around the
brazillion boats moored between the beach and the bridge. When you get tired
of catching fish there, paddle south to the yacht clubs and back.
4) I suggest a 6 wt, or thereabouts, with a full sink line. Not a sink tip
line. Ten feet or so of 8-10 pound mono for a leader. No Tippet. Fish close
to the bottom.
5) I suggest using a "Super Fly, with Bling". I'd be happy to send you a
couple of examples with recipe, if you like.

Unfortunately, I have plans for that week that will keep me out of town. I
would love to see firsthand what Frank does with a kayak, first strapped to
a vehicle and then to his person. Be sure to post a TR.



Hmm, Frank on a kayak in the ocean with a water temp of 57 degrees.
What could possibly go wrong?
Got to dig around, but don't really know if I've got any full sink
lines. Will search, but we've lost our last fly shop locally (though
we do have a Cabelas and a Bass Pro).
Sounds like som fun.
Frank Reid


uh...don't suppose there is any way you could video this outing, is there?

jeff (seeking amusement in all likely places)

Danl[_3_] March 8th, 2008 03:38 PM

San Diego
 

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...
On Mar 7, 7:40 pm, "Danl" danlfinn@*remove this*intergate.com wrote:


Hmm, Frank on a kayak in the ocean with a water temp of 57 degrees.
What could possibly go wrong?
Got to dig around, but don't really know if I've got any full sink
lines. Will search, but we've lost our last fly shop locally (though
we do have a Cabelas and a Bass Pro).


Scratch that "full sink only" remark. You'll only be in 20 feet of water in
that area, more like 12. A sink tip will be just fine.

Danl

Sounds like som fun.
Frank Reid

BTW, what hotel/motel are you staying in?




Tom Littleton March 8th, 2008 04:14 PM

San Diego
 

"Danl" danlfinn@*remove this*intergate.com wrote in message
om...
Scratch that "full sink only" remark. You'll only be in 20 feet of water
in that area, more like 12. A sink tip will be just fine.

Danl



Danl....the line really doesn't matter when cast by a "full sinking" angler.
Just sayin......g
Tom




Frank Reid[_2_] March 8th, 2008 04:45 PM

San Diego
 
Hmm, Frank on a kayak in the ocean with a water temp of 57 degrees.
What could possibly go wrong?
Got to dig around, but don't really know if I've got any full sink
lines. *Will search, but we've lost our last fly shop locally (though
we do have a Cabelas and a Bass Pro).

Scratch that "full sink only" remark. You'll only be in 20 feet of water in
that area, more like 12. A sink tip will be just fine.

Danl

Sounds like som fun.
Frank Reid

BTW, what hotel/motel are you staying in?


Well, I've got a Scientific Anglers Wet Tip III that I won in a
raffle. I can spool that on, so will run that on my 8wt, (its a 9wt,
so don't want to use it on my 7wt).
I'm staying at the Manchester Grand Hyatt on W. Harbor, right up the
street from the convention center.
Frank Reid

Danl[_3_] March 8th, 2008 05:10 PM

San Diego
 
Well, an 8wt is a bit of overkill, but so what. OTOH, if you've got a
sinktip or sinking 5wt, I'd opt for that rig. You won't be doing any
distance casting, per se. The sand bass and spotted bass that you'll be
bothering ain't that big, but in the salt water, you never know what'll be
cruisin by.

For a fly, think heavy, #2 - #4, heavy, root beer brown, heavy, lotsa flash,
heavy. Frank's Fightin' Craw, tied on a spark plug, with some extra sparkle
oughta be just about right.

Danl


"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...
Well, I've got a Scientific Anglers Wet Tip III that I won in a
raffle. I can spool that on, so will run that on my 8wt, (its a 9wt,
so don't want to use it on my 7wt).
I'm staying at the Manchester Grand Hyatt on W. Harbor, right up the
street from the convention center.
Frank Reid



Frank Reid[_2_] March 10th, 2008 12:27 PM

San Diego
 
Well, *an 8wt is a bit of overkill, but so what. OTOH, if you've got a
sinktip or sinking 5wt, I'd opt for that rig. You won't be doing any
distance casting, per se. The sand bass and spotted bass that you'll be
bothering ain't that big, but in the salt water, you never know what'll be
cruisin by.

For a fly, think heavy, #2 - #4, heavy, root beer brown, heavy, lotsa flash,
heavy. Frank's Fightin' Craw, tied on a spark plug, with some extra sparkle
oughta be just about right.


Well, I'm tying up some flashy streamers that have the same weight
wrapped on them as the infamous rotten banana fly. Just gotta figure
out how to cast these things.
Frank Reid


Tim J. March 10th, 2008 01:44 PM

San Diego
 
Frank Reid typed:
Well, an 8wt is a bit of overkill, but so what. OTOH, if you've got a
sinktip or sinking 5wt, I'd opt for that rig. You won't be doing any
distance casting, per se. The sand bass and spotted bass that you'll
be bothering ain't that big, but in the salt water, you never know
what'll be cruisin by.

For a fly, think heavy, #2 - #4, heavy, root beer brown, heavy,
lotsa flash, heavy. Frank's Fightin' Craw, tied on a spark plug,
with some extra sparkle oughta be just about right.


Well, I'm tying up some flashy streamers that have the same weight
wrapped on them as the infamous rotten banana fly. Just gotta figure
out how to cast these things.
Frank Reid


http://css.sbcma.com/timj/pics/crane.bmp

--
HTH,
Tim
-------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Frank Reid[_2_] March 10th, 2008 02:44 PM

San Diego
 
Well, an 8wt is a bit of overkill, but so what. OTOH, if you've got a
sinktip or sinking 5wt, I'd opt for that rig. You won't be doing any
distance casting, per se. The sand bass and spotted bass that you'll
be bothering ain't that big, but in the salt water, you never know
what'll be cruisin by.


For a fly, think heavy, #2 - #4, heavy, root beer brown, heavy,
lotsa flash, heavy. Frank's Fightin' Craw, tied on a spark plug,
with some extra sparkle oughta be just about right.


Well, I'm tying up some flashy streamers that have the same weight
wrapped on them as the infamous rotten banana fly. *Just gotta figure
out how to cast these things.
Frank Reid


http://css.sbcma.com/timj/pics/crane.bmp


I'd rather put that in my 'yak than 4 of the banana flies. Less
weight.
Frank Reid

Frank Reid[_2_] March 15th, 2008 09:27 PM

San Diego
 
On Mar 6, 11:02*pm, Frank Reid wrote:
Any decent surf casting this time of year? *Trying to figure out if I
should bring my rod when I go out there for a weeklong confernce
starting the 16th of this month.
Frank Reid


Well, between the tendonitis in my shoulder and the special wx
statement for San Diego, I don't think I'm going fishing. My only
chance was going to be tomorrow (Sunday), but this is from the
National Wx Service in San Diego:
A COLD GULF OF ALASKA STORM STORM WILL BRING SHOWERS...MOUNTAIN
SNOW...AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS LATE THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH SUNDAY.
WATERSPOUTS ARE POSSIBLE OVER THE COASTAL WATERS. IT WILL BE WINDY IN
ALL AREAS...STRONGEST OVER THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS...AND COASTAL
WATERS.
WIND ADVISORIES INTO SUNDAY MORNING.
* SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW ADVISORY FOR THE SAN DIEGO MOUNTAINS THROUGH
SUNDAY.
* HIGH SURF ADVISORY INTO MONDAY AFTERNOON.
* SMALL CRAFT AND GALE WARNINGS FOR COASTAL WATERS THROUGH SUNDAY.

Yah know, it just doesn't seem like good kayak weather.
Frank Reid

Danl[_3_] March 15th, 2008 09:58 PM

San Diego
 

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...
On Mar 6, 11:02 pm, Frank Reid wrote:
Any decent surf casting this time of year? Trying to figure out if I
should bring my rod when I go out there for a weeklong confernce
starting the 16th of this month.
Frank Reid


Well, between the tendonitis in my shoulder and the special wx
statement for San Diego, I don't think I'm going fishing. My only
chance was going to be tomorrow (Sunday), but this is from the
National Wx Service in San Diego:
A COLD GULF OF ALASKA STORM STORM WILL BRING SHOWERS...MOUNTAIN
SNOW...AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS LATE THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH SUNDAY.
WATERSPOUTS ARE POSSIBLE OVER THE COASTAL WATERS. IT WILL BE WINDY IN
ALL AREAS...STRONGEST OVER THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS...AND COASTAL
WATERS.
WIND ADVISORIES INTO SUNDAY MORNING.
* SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW ADVISORY FOR THE SAN DIEGO MOUNTAINS THROUGH
SUNDAY.
* HIGH SURF ADVISORY INTO MONDAY AFTERNOON.
* SMALL CRAFT AND GALE WARNINGS FOR COASTAL WATERS THROUGH SUNDAY.

Yah know, it just doesn't seem like good kayak weather.
Frank Reid



Hmmmm...... weather for the last dozen or so days: clear and sunny, temps
in the 70s, no wind. All fish are schooled up axle deep to a ferris wheel
and jumpin into any passing vessel. Spring Break Bikini Hatch is absolutely
fabulous.

Frank arrives in town...weather turns freakin Cornshucker Nation West!!!!
Fish and bikinis head south to await the return of spring conditions.

Coincidence? I think not....

Danl



Frank Reid[_2_] March 17th, 2008 02:43 AM

San Diego
 
On Mar 15, 4:58*pm, "Danl" danlfinn@*remove this*intergate.com
wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in message

...
On Mar 6, 11:02 pm, Frank Reid wrote:

Any decent surf casting this time of year? Trying to figure out if I
should bring my rod when I go out there for a weeklong confernce
starting the 16th of this month.
Frank Reid


Well, between the tendonitis in my shoulder and the special wx
statement for San Diego, I don't think I'm going fishing. *My only
chance was going to be tomorrow (Sunday), but this is from the
National Wx Service in San Diego:
A COLD GULF OF ALASKA STORM STORM WILL BRING SHOWERS...MOUNTAIN
SNOW...AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS LATE THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH SUNDAY.
WATERSPOUTS ARE POSSIBLE OVER THE COASTAL WATERS. IT WILL BE WINDY IN
ALL AREAS...STRONGEST OVER THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS...AND COASTAL
WATERS.
WIND ADVISORIES INTO SUNDAY MORNING.
* SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW ADVISORY FOR THE SAN DIEGO MOUNTAINS THROUGH
SUNDAY.
* HIGH SURF ADVISORY INTO MONDAY AFTERNOON.
* SMALL CRAFT AND GALE WARNINGS FOR COASTAL WATERS THROUGH SUNDAY.

Yah know, it just doesn't seem like good kayak weather.
Frank Reid

Hmmmm...... weather for the last dozen or so days: *clear and sunny, temps
in the 70s, no wind. All fish are schooled up axle deep to a ferris wheel
and jumpin into any passing vessel. Spring Break Bikini Hatch is absolutely
fabulous.

Frank arrives in town...weather turns *freakin Cornshucker Nation West!!!!
Fish and bikinis head south to await the return of spring conditions.

Coincidence? I think not....

Danl


Left my fly rod at home, weather was beautiful. This sucks.
Frank Reid

W. D. Grey March 22nd, 2008 05:38 PM

San Diego
 
In article
, Frank
Reid writes
On Mar 15, 4:58*pm, "Danl" danlfinn@*remove this*intergate.com
wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in message

...
On Mar 6, 11:02 pm, Frank Reid wrote:

Any decent surf casting this time of year? Trying to figure out if I
should bring my rod when I go out there for a weeklong confernce
starting the 16th of this month.
Frank Reid


Well, between the tendonitis in my shoulder and the special wx
statement for San Diego, I don't think I'm going fishing. *My only
chance was going to be tomorrow (Sunday), but this is from the
National Wx Service in San Diego:
A COLD GULF OF ALASKA STORM STORM WILL BRING SHOWERS...MOUNTAIN
SNOW...AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS LATE THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH SUNDAY.
WATERSPOUTS ARE POSSIBLE OVER THE COASTAL WATERS. IT WILL BE WINDY IN
ALL AREAS...STRONGEST OVER THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS...AND COASTAL
WATERS.
WIND ADVISORIES INTO SUNDAY MORNING.
* SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW ADVISORY FOR THE SAN DIEGO MOUNTAINS THROUGH
SUNDAY.
* HIGH SURF ADVISORY INTO MONDAY AFTERNOON.
* SMALL CRAFT AND GALE WARNINGS FOR COASTAL WATERS THROUGH SUNDAY.

Yah know, it just doesn't seem like good kayak weather.
Frank Reid

Hmmmm...... weather for the last dozen or so days: *clear and sunny, temps
in the 70s, no wind. All fish are schooled up axle deep to a ferris wheel
and jumpin into any passing vessel. Spring Break Bikini Hatch is absolutely
fabulous.

Frank arrives in town...weather turns *freakin Cornshucker Nation West!!!!
Fish and bikinis head south to await the return of spring conditions.

Coincidence? I think not....

Danl


Left my fly rod at home, weather was beautiful. This sucks.
Frank Reid


Never mind Frank - you lived to write the above :-)
--
Bill Grey



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