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Hook bend dropper knot
I'm would like to set up a dry --- nymph dropper w/ the nymph dropped from the
hook of the dry. I've found a buncha sites with dropper loop knots or showing the basic concept of a bend-of-hook dropper, but not much on the best knot to use at the hook bend. What say ye? nb |
Hook bend dropper knot
notbob wrote in
: I'm would like to set up a dry --- nymph dropper w/ the nymph dropped from the hook of the dry. I've found a buncha sites with dropper loop knots or showing the basic concept of a bend-of-hook dropper, but not much on the best knot to use at the hook bend. What say ye? nb A cinch works fine, as does looping the tag end through a perfection loop. -- Scott Reverse name to reply |
Hook bend dropper knot
Here you go trt this 'Field & Stream - Field & Stream's Guide to Basic Camping and Fishing Knots (Now With More New Knots!)' (http://tinyurl.com/39vrvq) This is the one I use. John -- Caddisman Presentation-Presentation-Presentation ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Caddisman's Profile: http://www.njflyfishing.com/vBulleti...php?userid=695 View this thread: http://www.njflyfishing.com/vBulleti...ad.php?t=14240 ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Hook bend dropper knot
"notbob" wrote in message ... I'm would like to set up a dry --- nymph dropper w/ the nymph dropped from the hook of the dry. I've found a buncha sites with dropper loop knots or showing the basic concept of a bend-of-hook dropper, but not much on the best knot to use at the hook bend. What say ye? nb same knot i use from reel arbor to fly: the mighty improved clinch! wayno |
Hook bend dropper knot
notbob wrote:
I'm would like to set up a dry --- nymph dropper w/ the nymph dropped from the hook of the dry. I've found a buncha sites with dropper loop knots or showing the basic concept of a bend-of-hook dropper, but not much on the best knot to use at the hook bend. What say ye? nb You can use an improved clinch knot on the bend. The easiest way is to tie the knot before you put in on the bend and tighten it. I prefer to tie the dropper onto the hook eye. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
Hook bend dropper knot
"rw" wrote You can use an improved clinch knot on the bend. The easiest way is to tie the knot before you put in on the bend and tighten it. I prefer to tie the dropper onto the hook eye. damn, steven, i thought *sure* i would get a rise out of you on my post, supra. losing my touch, i reckon. yfitons wayno |
Hook bend dropper knot
Wayne Harrison wrote:
"rw" wrote You can use an improved clinch knot on the bend. The easiest way is to tie the knot before you put in on the bend and tighten it. I prefer to tie the dropper onto the hook eye. damn, steven, i thought *sure* i would get a rise out of you on my post, supra. losing my touch, i reckon. No, you're not losing your "kooky uncle who will only tie one knot" touch. You just accidentally picked a situation where the improved clinch happens to be a suitable knot. ;-) -- Ken Fortenberry |
Hook bend dropper knot
Wayne Harrison wrote:
"rw" wrote You can use an improved clinch knot on the bend. The easiest way is to tie the knot before you put in on the bend and tighten it. I prefer to tie the dropper onto the hook eye. damn, steven, i thought *sure* i would get a rise out of you on my post, supra. losing my touch, i reckon. yfitons wayno If the guy had asked how to tie the leader to the flyline I'd be all over you like a cheap suit. :-) -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
Hook bend dropper knot
On 2008-03-26, Caddisman wrote:
This is the one I use. Davey's knot. I like it. Easy for squinty-eyed geezers. nb |
Hook bend dropper knot
"notbob" wrote Davey's knot. I like it. Easy for squinty-eyed geezers. As a geezer that has tried Davey's knot ... it's not a knot that's not hard to knot .... it looks a lot easier on paper than in a breeze, at dusk, with light tippet, threading the tag back through the loop the second time is hard without wasting a lot of tippet, mainly because that tag is hard to see and grip with geezer eyes and a hand full of geezer thumbs but give it a try and decide for yourself I use an improved clinch and rw's excellent suggestion to start the knot on a finger or your forceps not directly on the bend of the hook ... makes it much easier to avoid trapping tail fibers of the dry fly in the knot (especially with flies like a sparkle dun ) |
Hook bend dropper knot
On 2008-03-26, Larry L wrote:
modquote ... it's not a knot that's not hard to knot .... /modquote nb |
Hook bend dropper knot
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Hook bend dropper knot
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:54:44 -0500, Kevin Vang
wrote: In article , rw56 says... If the guy had asked how to tie the leader to the flyline I'd be all over you like a cheap suit. :-) A lawsuit? A clown suit. HTH, R |
Hook bend dropper knot
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:13:29 GMT, notbob wrote:
I'm would like to set up a dry --- nymph dropper w/ the nymph dropped from the hook of the dry. I've found a buncha sites with dropper loop knots or showing the basic concept of a bend-of-hook dropper, but not much on the best knot to use at the hook bend. What say ye? nb Figure eight knot tightened by pulling up hard on the tag end only. |
Hook bend dropper knot
On 2008-03-26, notbob wrote:
I'm would like to set up a dry --- nymph dropper w/ the nymph dropped from the hook of the dry. I've been playing around with diff knots and I like the perfect loop knot and uni. Is this combo valid for a dry--drpr--nymph? pl=perfect loop uni=uni (taperleader)-----pl--pl----(tippet)---dryfly-hookbend/uni-----uni/nymph nb |
Hook bend dropper knot
"notbob" wrote (taperleader)-----pl--pl----(tippet)---dryfly-hookbend/uni-----uni/nymph nb that'll work try (taperleader)-----tippet ring ----(tippet)--- I scoffed pretty hard when I first heard of tippet rings .. but, I prefer to scoff about things I've actually tried, so, I tried them, and, I'm a convert, now. |
Hook bend dropper knot
On Mar 31, 11:39 pm, notbob wrote:
On 2008-03-26, notbob wrote: I'm would like to set up a dry --- nymph dropper w/ the nymph dropped from the hook of the dry. I've been playing around with diff knots and I like the perfect loop knot and uni. Is this combo valid for a dry--drpr--nymph? pl=perfect loop uni=uni (taperleader)-----pl--pl----(tippet)---dryfly-hookbend/uni-----uni/nymph nb You will find it easier to use tippet rings instead of just knots. Like these; http://www.sportfish.co.uk/product/3...et_Rings_.html You can drop a nymph off a ring as well if you wish, or drop the dry fly off the ring if you want the nymph on the point. Saves a lot of messing on, and makes a tapred leader last a very long time. I would suggest you "colour" the rings with matt black marker. This stops them glinting, and fewer fish try to take the rings. If you want to fish "in-line" rings, and you dress your own flies, then try these; http://www.flyforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=8063 This prevents "bumping" fish off, ( as does the ring drop rig described above). TL MC |
Hook bend dropper knot
On 2008-03-31, Larry L wrote:
I scoffed pretty hard when I first heard of tippet rings .. No wonder. Could there be a smaller niche to exploit? I'm off to develope "tippet ring" lube/indicator/release. nb |
Hook bend dropper knot
Mike wrote in
: You will find it easier to use tippet rings instead of just knots. I'm not sure I see the advantage of tippet rings over loops. All I've scoured on the web shows folks using clinch knots and the like to attach to the ring. That's tying a knot. Changing a tippet means cutting the currnt knot and tying a new knot to the ring. What's the advantage over loop-to- loop where knot tying is avoided? nb |
Hook bend dropper knot
On Apr 1, 5:07 pm, notbob wrote:
Mike wrote : You will find it easier to use tippet rings instead of just knots. I'm not sure I see the advantage of tippet rings over loops. All I've scoured on the web shows folks using clinch knots and the like to attach to the ring. That's tying a knot. Changing a tippet means cutting the currnt knot and tying a new knot to the ring. What's the advantage over loop-to- loop where knot tying is avoided? nb You donīt shorten your tapered leader at all. It is easy to remove or add dropper lengths/tippet, Knots to rings are stronger than knots to nylon. Especially inf you use a tucked half blood knot ( aka. Improved clinch); http://www.animatedknots.com/improvedclinch/index.php http://www.cabelas.com/information/c...inch-Knot.html When attaching a dropper, you tie your fly to the length of line you wish to use, and then tie the length of line to the ring. This is easier to control, gives you the length you want, and also allows you to use short droppers without fear of damaging your leader. Loop to loop is not an appropriate method of attaching tippet or flies.Knots are used to form such loops in any case! It is only useful for attaching leader to fly-line, and may cause hingeing even then. A needle knot is better for this connection. When you hook a fish, the pull is on the ring, which automatically orientates the line/knot in the direction of pull. This exerts less strain on the knot. Using the "tag ends" of knots, or knotted tippet is less reliable. If you donīt see any advantages, then donīt use them! :) TL MC |
Hook bend dropper knot
When using rings you may also ignore the "diameter drop rule" for
tying knots in fishing line. This rule states that for many knots a difference in nylon ( or whatever), diameter of more than few thou, renders the knot unreliable. As this does not apply to jam knots on rings, you can use any tippet you like. This has a number of considerable advantages. TL MC |
Hook bend dropper knot
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