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From the AP link at the NY Times:
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- The nation's first genetically altered household pet -- a fish that glows in the dark -- is set to begin appearing in stores next month everywhere except perhaps California, the only state with a ban on lab-engineered species. On Wednesday, the California Fish and Game Commission is scheduled to take up an application from Yorktown Technologies of Austin, Texas, to market the GloFish in California. How long before these show up in Bait Shops?? Scott |
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4... From the AP link at the NY Times: SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- The nation's first genetically altered household pet -- a fish that glows in the dark -- is set to begin appearing in stores snip How long before these show up in Bait Shops?? Scott Lake Ontario shiners? |
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"Stan Gula" wrote in
: "Scott Seidman" wrote in message . 1.4... From the AP link at the NY Times: SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- The nation's first genetically altered household pet -- a fish that glows in the dark -- is set to begin appearing in stores snip How long before these show up in Bait Shops?? Scott Lake Ontario shiners? Are those like Coney Island Whitefish?? Scott |
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message . 1.4... From the AP link at the NY Times: SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- The nation's first genetically altered household pet -- a fish that glows in the dark -- is set to begin appearing in stores next month everywhere except perhaps California, the only state with a ban on lab-engineered species. On Wednesday, the California Fish and Game Commission is scheduled to take up an application from Yorktown Technologies of Austin, Texas, to market the GloFish in California. How long before these show up in Bait Shops?? Some time before dawn would by my guess. Wolfgang |
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message . 1.4... From the AP link at the NY Times: SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- The nation's first genetically altered household pet -- a fish that glows in the dark -- is set to begin appearing in stores next month everywhere except perhaps California, the only state with a ban on lab-engineered species. On Wednesday, the California Fish and Game Commission is scheduled to take up an application from Yorktown Technologies of Austin, Texas, to market the GloFish in California. How long before these show up in Bait Shops?? More to the point, how long before these show up in the wild? /Roger |
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"Roger Ohlund" wrote in message
... How long before these show up in Bait Shops?? More to the point, how long before these show up in the wild? /Roger My guess is that they will have no chance in the wild. Kind of like the whet squirrels we had in our neighborhood a few years ago - the hawks made short work on them when spring hit. I can imagine one of them sitting up in the branches thinking he was invisible, and then *swoop*! |
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Stan Gula wrote:
"Roger Ohlund" wrote in message ... How long before these show up in Bait Shops?? More to the point, how long before these show up in the wild? /Roger My guess is that they will have no chance in the wild. i would think that is a good guess stan..... they will be fodder.... here in the south for sure. meanwhile, we were sad and drinkin'... http://www.ezflyfish.com/glowintheda...wgbusters.html wally ;-) |
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"walt winter" wrote in message
... http://www.ezflyfish.com/glowintheda...wgbusters.html wally ;-) Is that supposed to be something other than your front page? |
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Stan Gula wrote:
"walt winter" wrote in message ... http://www.ezflyfish.com/glowintheda...wgbusters.html wally ;-) Is that supposed to be something other than your front page? oh ****.... 'posed to be a joke.... forgot that it would default. (yeah sure walt, spammin' bastid) --wally |
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I work at a nuclear power station on a major fresh water fishery. So, this
is new?? -- Wayne To Fish is Human...To Release Divine! "Roger Ohlund" wrote in message ... "Scott Seidman" wrote in message . 1.4... From the AP link at the NY Times: SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- The nation's first genetically altered household pet -- a fish that glows in the dark -- is set to begin appearing in stores next month everywhere except perhaps California, the only state with a ban on lab-engineered species. On Wednesday, the California Fish and Game Commission is scheduled to take up an application from Yorktown Technologies of Austin, Texas, to market the GloFish in California. How long before these show up in Bait Shops?? More to the point, how long before these show up in the wild? /Roger |
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Greg Pavlov wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:40:11 GMT, "Stan Gula" wrote: Lake Ontario shiners? Oooh, that's nasty. But our problem isn't errant particles as such, it's errant molecules. Sure, we're the proud caretakers of ManhattanProject tailings. But it's Love Canal, just upstream from the mighty Niagara Falls, and other dumps,waiting to be discovered upon the demise of the chemical plants sitting on top of them, that provide the true curisoities in our neighborhood. When we haul in a fish on Lake Ontario we look for growths, not glows. It makes one wonder about the medical histories of long-term employees of the Maid of the Mist boats, rugged craft that spend sooo much time in the spray and fog at the foot of the Falls. that is scary..... it amazes me at times that we (and i say we, as the human race... particularily the "industrialized" human race) subscribe to the chemo concept..... better chems, better life. sorry trip and forty, i'm not speaking here of the ingestion chems, i'm blathering about the "dupont" (i use the term "dupont" as a descriptive term for all chemical manufacturers and processors, not singularily the CT corp, dupont) wonders that make all of our lives so blissful and wonderful. flyfishing.... hmmm.... to name a few.... graphite.... nickel & silver.... polymers.... flashabou.... these elements, compounds, & finallized product may (they most likely do) cause health problems for the people that are associated with them industrially. well hell bill, what's the deal? the deal is that in modern society, the philosophy, perhaps the aberrant philosophy, is that we as a society try to make life as easy, comfortable, and most importatly, entertaining as possible.... for thy ownself.... gawdamn, the perfect conundrum. certain factions, "faceless" corporations, realize that their survival and well-being is best served by the production of these chems and products to make life just rosy and toasty for the rest of us.... hell, for all of mankind. am i condemning? i really don't have that answer.... 'tis the way it is today and i fear that we must suffer the tumors that grow on or in us for the comforts that we enjoy.... i for one, do enjoy my "plastic" flyfishing tools.... wally |
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walt winter wrote: Stan Gula wrote: "Roger Ohlund" wrote in message ... How long before these show up in Bait Shops?? More to the point, how long before these show up in the wild? /Roger My guess is that they will have no chance in the wild. i would think that is a good guess stan..... they will be fodder.... here in the south for sure. There are a number of "designer" fishes out there now. "Designer" Atlantic Salmon have been submitted to the FDA for approval. The company that developed them has standing orders for The Atlantic Salmon have gotten most of the press but there are over 35 different "species" being developed. There are engineered carp and tipalia that have been developed and are in production in China and Cuba. http://www.ems.org/salmon/genetically_engineered.html http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/050100-01.htm http://www.mindfully.org/Water/2003/...ial15jun03.htm http://www.afprotein.com/bounty.htm http://www.growfish.com.au/content.asp?contentid=468 Maybe one of our New Zealand posters could comment on: http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/SC0311/S00100.htm Interesting stuff! Willi |
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Greg Pavlov wrote:
When I was younger I thought that we might change our behaviors if we were closer to the consequences.. For instance, if there were regulations making it illegal to ship garbage more than 25 miles from its source, you might see a change in attitudes towards disposables and packaging. i doubt that it would work..... illegal dumping is prevalent. hell, just saw what appears to be a freshly dumped dilapidated range or dishwasher down a barren leaf hillside coming home the other evening.... most likely op's deer stand. But watching people haul out fish 2 - 5 miles downstream from Love Canal, fish that are known to be chock full of chemical pollutants, to take them home to eat them, shows that there are fundamental disconnects that we are not likely to overcome any time soon. gotta respect darwinism. Dupont;s stockholders are in good shape for the time being. yeah, i'm probably one.... don't really know fer sure, but i'd wager that one of my/her (shmbo) mutuals has it in the portfolio. wally, will the madness ever abate? |
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Got any that look like Blinky, the three eyed fish??
http://www.strangebuys.com/Toys/Humo...uishy-Toy.html "Wayne" wrote in message t... I work at a nuclear power station on a major fresh water fishery. So, this is new?? -- Wayne To Fish is Human...To Release Divine! "Roger Ohlund" wrote in message ... "Scott Seidman" wrote in message . 1.4... From the AP link at the NY Times: SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- The nation's first genetically altered household pet -- a fish that glows in the dark -- is set to begin appearing in stores next month everywhere except perhaps California, the only state with a ban on lab-engineered species. On Wednesday, the California Fish and Game Commission is scheduled to take up an application from Yorktown Technologies of Austin, Texas, to market the GloFish in California. How long before these show up in Bait Shops?? More to the point, how long before these show up in the wild? /Roger |
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It says on their website that they are selectively bred zebra fish.
http://www.glofish.com/about.asp#5 I was expecting some genetically modified creature. Rainbow trout the skin of which had the chromatophores from a squid or cuttlefish. The fish could flash signals to you such as; fast red flash- wrong fly, flashing yellow- bad cast ROTBLMAO, slow green - I'm hungry. I was in an aquarium once and showed some kids that the squid would turn red if you held some red next to the tank wall, yellow if something yellow etc. Successive groups of kids kept the things going for a couple of hours I wonder if squid suffer from pallet depletion. "Scott Seidman" wrote in message . 1.4... From the AP link at the NY Times: SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- The nation's first genetically altered household pet -- a fish that glows in the dark -- is set to begin appearing in stores next month everywhere except perhaps California, the only state with a ban on lab-engineered species. On Wednesday, the California Fish and Game Commission is scheduled to take up an application from Yorktown Technologies of Austin, Texas, to market the GloFish in California. How long before these show up in Bait Shops?? Scott |
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"Willi" wrote in message ... walt winter wrote: Stan Gula wrote: "Roger Ohlund" wrote in message ... How long before these show up in Bait Shops?? More to the point, how long before these show up in the wild? /Roger My guess is that they will have no chance in the wild. i would think that is a good guess stan..... they will be fodder.... here in the south for sure. There are a number of "designer" fishes out there now. "Designer" Atlantic Salmon have been submitted to the FDA for approval. The company that developed them has standing orders for The Atlantic Salmon have gotten most of the press but there are over 35 different "species" being developed. There are engineered carp and tipalia that have been developed and are in production in China and Cuba. http://www.ems.org/salmon/genetically_engineered.html http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/050100-01.htm http://www.mindfully.org/Water/2003/...ial15jun03.htm http://www.afprotein.com/bounty.htm http://www.growfish.com.au/content.asp?contentid=468 Maybe one of our New Zealand posters could comment on: http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/SC0311/S00100.htm Interesting stuff! Scary stuff! /Roger |
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damn wally...it was only 8:16 pm when you posted this one. you gotta
quit goin down the street in the early evenings, or you need to stay down there a bit longer. BSEG jeff walt winter wrote: that is scary..... it amazes me at times that we (and i say we, as the human race... particularily the "industrialized" human race) subscribe to the chemo concept..... better chems, better life. sorry trip and forty, i'm not speaking here of the ingestion chems, i'm blathering about the "dupont" (i use the term "dupont" as a descriptive term for all chemical manufacturers and processors, not singularily the CT corp, dupont) wonders that make all of our lives so blissful and wonderful. flyfishing.... hmmm.... to name a few.... graphite.... nickel & silver.... polymers.... flashabou.... these elements, compounds, & finallized product may (they most likely do) cause health problems for the people that are associated with them industrially. well hell bill, what's the deal? the deal is that in modern society, the philosophy, perhaps the aberrant philosophy, is that we as a society try to make life as easy, comfortable, and most importatly, entertaining as possible.... for thy ownself.... gawdamn, the perfect conundrum. certain factions, "faceless" corporations, realize that their survival and well-being is best served by the production of these chems and products to make life just rosy and toasty for the rest of us.... hell, for all of mankind. am i condemning? i really don't have that answer.... 'tis the way it is today and i fear that we must suffer the tumors that grow on or in us for the comforts that we enjoy.... i for one, do enjoy my "plastic" flyfishing tools.... wally |
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In article ,
Willi wrote: i would think that is a good guess stan..... they will be fodder.... here in the south for sure. There are a number of "designer" fishes out there now. "Designer" Atlantic Salmon have been submitted to the FDA for approval. The company that developed them has standing orders for The Atlantic Salmon have gotten most of the press but there are over 35 different "species" being developed. There are engineered carp and tipalia that have been developed and are in production in China and Cuba. Hmmm, do the salmon die after they spawn? A king salmon that would not die after spawning would be kind of cool. Can this be done? |
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steve sullivan wrote: In article , Willi wrote: i would think that is a good guess stan..... they will be fodder.... here in the south for sure. There are a number of "designer" fishes out there now. "Designer" Atlantic Salmon have been submitted to the FDA for approval. The company that developed them has standing orders for The Atlantic Salmon have gotten most of the press but there are over 35 different "species" being developed. There are engineered carp and tipalia that have been developed and are in production in China and Cuba. Hmmm, do the salmon die after they spawn? A king salmon that would not die after spawning would be kind of cool. Can this be done? No offense Steve, but your response is what makes the possibility of having our streams and lakes full on Frankenfish. I know people like to catch BIG fish but ****................. Here's a little story I wrote for ROFF a number of years ago that might make my point. http://makeashorterlink.com/?R421126B6 Willi |
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"steve sullivan" wrote in message ... Hmmm, do the salmon die after they spawn? A king salmon that would not die after spawning would be kind of cool. Can this be done? Atlantic salmon don't die off ala the pacific species- but then, As I understand it, the Atlantic salmon is more closely related to steelhead than they are to the pacific salmons. Apparantly they are taking hold in various waters in BC where they have been imported for fish farming operations. jh |
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Jeff Miller wrote: damn wally...it was only 8:16 pm when you posted this one. you gotta quit goin down the street in the early evenings, or you need to stay down there a bit longer. BSEG jeff heh heh heh..... rum and cokes in the comfort of my home ;-) wally, thinking of headin out fer the mythos nightly special, served with a good merlot, maybe a guinness or two fer desert |
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You mean there are fish that don't???
-- Wayne To Fish is Human...To Release Divine! "B J Conner" wrote in message ... Got any that look like Blinky, the three eyed fish?? http://www.strangebuys.com/Toys/Humo...uishy-Toy.html |
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have you gotten any snow up your way? damn cold down here...
jeff ezflyfisher wrote: Jeff Miller wrote: damn wally...it was only 8:16 pm when you posted this one. you gotta quit goin down the street in the early evenings, or you need to stay down there a bit longer. BSEG jeff heh heh heh..... rum and cokes in the comfort of my home ;-) wally, thinking of headin out fer the mythos nightly special, served with a good merlot, maybe a guinness or two fer desert |
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Jeff Miller wrote: have you gotten any snow up your way? damn cold down here... jeff flurries this morning here in m'ton. it's supposed to change to ice/rain later... we had about 2-3 inches last week in foscoe. did you and jim chase albies at all? i hear it's cranked up lately. wally |
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nah...not yet. We don't have the flyfishing equipment to do the
job...unless of course i just want to unspool my 8 weight. g i'm thinking of going this weekend if the weather cooperates. why don't you come on down? jeff ezflyfisher wrote: did you and jim chase albies at all? i hear it's cranked up lately. wally |
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Jeff wrote: nah...not yet. We don't have the flyfishing equipment to do the job...unless of course i just want to unspool my 8 weight. g i'm thinking of going this weekend if the weather cooperates. why don't you come on down? jeff i fear my fishing days are over for this year.... wally |
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