Dual nymphs
 

......no, not hot big-boobed babes drooling over your rig!

I'm having no luck tossing out my lone oversized dry BWO (#12). OTOH, I've
improved my casting immensely. In light of that fact, I actually broke down
and spent big bucks on 3 flies from my local premier FF shop. The guy on
duty seemed to know his flies, but didn't know the basic nX equation for
tippets, so I'm not sure of any advice he offered other than to rig 'em as a
pair. So, the question is, what's the best way to rig a dual nymph
offering. I have a BH pheasant and a Dunn's emerger. I also got a hotwire
prince, but I figure that's a solo rig. What say ye? TIA ;)

nb

Dual nymphs
 

"notbob" wrote

prince, but I figure that's a solo rig. What say ye? TIA ;)

nb


If you haven't tried and feel comfortable with a single nymph rig ( by try I
mean actual fishing ) I'd suggest doing so until you get past the ....
likely ... frustration stage. An indicator, a split shot or two, and a
single nymph is plenty to keep you in hilarious giggles and give you plenty
of "tackle playing with" time untangling and re-tying ... and you'll catch
fish ...

Dual nymphs
 

On May 2, 7:05 pm, notbob wrote:

So, the question is, what's the best way to rig a dual nymph
offering. I have a BH pheasant and a Dunn's emerger. I also got a hotwire
prince, but I figure that's a solo rig. What say ye? TIA ;)

nb

I can´t see any point in doing it at all, you have even less control
than if you only used one. You will just end up with tangles. If you
want to use a nymph, then it is easier to learn to do it using an
indicator.

http://www.midcurrent.com/articles/g...ndicators.aspx

http://www.wfn.tv/fishingtips_search/index.php?id=92

If you absolutely must use two nymphs, then have a look at this;

http://www.adventuresportsonline.com/nymphrig.htm

TL
MC

Dual nymphs
 

Mike wrote in news:a42f7e09-3eb2-4870-96e2-
:

I canït see any point in doing it at all, you have even less control
than if you only used one. You will just end up with tangles. If you
want to use a nymph, then it is easier to learn to do it using an
indicator.


Disagree. Dual nymphs are an extremely effective way of essentially
doubling your chances of having a nymph in the fish's strike zone. It's
particularly beneficial for beginners, who have a harder time controlling
the nymph's drift than an experienced nympher. I've never had a problem
with tangles, especially tying the dropper off the bend of the higher hook,
and if I did, I'd probably still use the method, because it can be
absolutely deadly.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Dual nymphs
 

On May 2, 8:11 pm, Scott Seidman wrote:

Disagree. Dual nymphs are an extremely effective way of essentially
doubling your chances of having a nymph in the fish's strike zone. It's
particularly beneficial for beginners, who have a harder time controlling
the nymph's drift than an experienced nympher. I've never had a problem
with tangles, especially tying the dropper off the bend of the higher hook,
and if I did, I'd probably still use the method, because it can be
absolutely deadly.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

If they can´t control the drift of one nymph, how does using two
improve matters?

Multi-fly rigs are invariably just a waste of time for beginners, they
spend more time trying to remove tangles, and casting without hooking
themselves, than they do fishing.

TL
MC

Dual nymphs
 

Scott Seidman wrote:
Mike wrote in news:a42f7e09-3eb2-4870-96e2-
:


I canït see any point in doing it at all, you have even less control
than if you only used one. You will just end up with tangles. If you
want to use a nymph, then it is easier to learn to do it using an
indicator.



Disagree. Dual nymphs are an extremely effective way of essentially
doubling your chances of having a nymph in the fish's strike zone. It's
particularly beneficial for beginners, who have a harder time controlling
the nymph's drift than an experienced nympher. I've never had a problem
with tangles, especially tying the dropper off the bend of the higher hook,
and if I did, I'd probably still use the method, because it can be
absolutely deadly.

A two-nymph rig is, I believe, more that twice as effective as a
one-nymph rig.

The reason is that when you miss a strike on the first fly you're likely
to snag the fish with the second. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Dual nymphs
 

On May 2, 2:19 pm, Mike wrote:

If they can´t control the drift of one nymph, how does using two
improve matters?

Multi-fly rigs are invariably just a waste of time for beginners, they
spend more time trying to remove tangles, and casting without hooking
themselves, than they do fishing.


I couldn't disagree with this more strongly. I've rigged 8 year old
kids up with dual rig nymphs and they don't tangle any more than
single nymphs. The parts that cause tangles are the strike indicator
and split shot. If you're just looking to avoid tangles, get rid of
the shot, and make the point fly a heavy bead head.

As to you presumedly rhetorical question about control, there's at
least some chance that there's enough slack between the two flies that
one of them has some chance of dead drifting, as least a short
distance. (I hadn't thought about this before, but I think whoever
suggested it is right.)

Bob

Dual nymphs
 

On May 2, 9:17 pm, redietz wrote:


I couldn't disagree with this more strongly. I've rigged 8 year old
kids up with dual rig nymphs and they don't tangle any more than
single nymphs. The parts that cause tangles are the strike indicator
and split shot. If you're just looking to avoid tangles, get rid of
the shot, and make the point fly a heavy bead head.

As to you presumedly rhetorical question about control, there's at
least some chance that there's enough slack between the two flies that
one of them has some chance of dead drifting, as least a short
distance. (I hadn't thought about this before, but I think whoever
suggested it is right.)

Bob

The only thing I rig 8 year old kids up with is a bobber and a worm.
Seems to work very well;

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9358/an4jx1.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/4614/an1fu4.jpg

TL
MC

Dual nymphs
 

On May 2, 9:13 pm, rw wrote:


A two-nymph rig is, I believe, more that twice as effective as a
one-nymph rig.

The reason is that when you miss a strike on the first fly you're likely
to snag the fish with the second. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Wouldn´t surprise me at all! :)

TL
MC

Dual nymphs
 

Mike wrote in news:163e3f31-10d3-4808-af2b-
:

If they canït control the drift of one nymph, how does using two
improve matters?


When you've got two flies separated by 24" or so, there's a greater
likelihood that at least one of them will be in the right place at the
right time. Even for those who have experience, depth variations in the
streams are easier to deal with when you have two nymphs.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Dual nymphs
 

On May 2, 9:45 pm, Scott Seidman wrote:

When you've got two flies separated by 24" or so, there's a greater
likelihood that at least one of them will be in the right place at the
right time. Even for those who have experience, depth variations in the
streams are easier to deal with when you have two nymphs.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Not logical to assume that. Indeed, if you use two nymphs, it is far
more likely that at least one will definitely be in the wrong place
most of the time, and is thus superfluous. If the bottom nymph is
dragging on the bottom, it will keep giving false bite indications as
well.

If you want to use two nymphs, fine. I don´t mind, hell, you can use
ten if you like.

TL
MC

Dual nymphs
 

Mike wrote in news:89e09b57-d515-4811-80d2-
:

Not logical to assume that.

No need to assume anything that hours of field testing verifies.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Dual nymphs
 

On May 2, 9:56 pm, Scott Seidman wrote:
Mike wrote in news:89e09b57-d515-4811-80d2-
:

Not logical to assume that.

No need to assume anything that hours of field testing verifies.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

If you tried fishing in the water, at the correct depth, then you
might change your mind. No matter how many hours you test a two nymph
rig in a field, neither of the nymphs will be in the best place for
catching a fish.

If you do fish in the water, and have no idea of the water depth, then
using two flies is not going to change that. Regardless of the depth
you set, you only have two possibilities. Either both flies are in
the wrong place. or one fly is in the wrong place.

At least if you use only one fly, you can´t have two flies in the
wrong place.

TL
MC

Dual nymphs
 

On Fri, 02 May 2008 17:05:09 GMT, notbob wrote:

.....no, not hot big-boobed babes drooling over your rig!

I'm having no luck tossing out my lone oversized dry BWO (#12). OTOH, I've
improved my casting immensely. In light of that fact, I actually broke down
and spent big bucks on 3 flies from my local premier FF shop. The guy on
duty seemed to know his flies, but didn't know the basic nX equation for
tippets, so I'm not sure of any advice he offered other than to rig 'em as a
pair. So, the question is, what's the best way to rig a dual nymph
offering. I have a BH pheasant and a Dunn's emerger. I also got a hotwire
prince, but I figure that's a solo rig. What say ye? TIA ;)

nb

What? No pheasant tail? Try nymphing with just one nymph as others
have suggested. I'm a pretty good nympher and never fail to take fish
using that method, and I seldom, if ever, use more than one.

You can use more than one without getting tangles by simply using a
circle cast - when your fly drifts past and below you on the stream,
simply pick up the line and lob it upstream without any false casting.

But, you really should learn how to nymph and cast better before you
attempt a 2 nymph rig. I have seen some very experienced fishermen
untangling their dual fly rigs.

Break down and buy a couple of pheasant tails in size 18. You won't
regret your purchase.

Dave

Dual nymphs
 

On Fri, 2 May 2008 13:03:36 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On May 2, 9:56 pm, Scott Seidman wrote:
Mike wrote in news:89e09b57-d515-4811-80d2-
:

Not logical to assume that.

No need to assume anything that hours of field testing verifies.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

If you tried fishing in the water,

Like in a bowl...?

at the correct depth,

OK, how big is the bowl...?

then you might change your mind.

Yeah, anything is possible...

No matter how many hours you test a two nymph
rig in a field, neither of the nymphs will be in the best place for
catching a fish.

Testing proves it...

If you do fish in the water,

A soup bowl? A salad bowl? A trainstation toilet bowl?

and have no idea of the water depth, then
using two flies is not going to change that.

But one is better than side-scan sonar...

Regardless of the depth you set, you only have two possibilities.

Dumb and dumber?

Either both flies are in the wrong place.

One in the bowl and one in Dieter's mouth...?

or one fly is in the wrong place.

Well, if anyone ought to know about the wrong place for his fly, it'd be
you...

At least if you use only one fly, you can´t have two flies in the
wrong place.

Sure you can - one in the bowl and one in Dieter...

TL
MC

HTH,
Dickie

Dual nymphs
 

On Fri, 02 May 2008 16:19:24 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Fri, 02 May 2008 17:05:09 GMT, notbob wrote:

.....no, not hot big-boobed babes drooling over your rig!

I'm having no luck tossing out my lone oversized dry BWO (#12). OTOH, I've
improved my casting immensely. In light of that fact, I actually broke down
and spent big bucks on 3 flies from my local premier FF shop. The guy on
duty seemed to know his flies, but didn't know the basic nX equation for
tippets, so I'm not sure of any advice he offered other than to rig 'em as a
pair. So, the question is, what's the best way to rig a dual nymph
offering. I have a BH pheasant and a Dunn's emerger. I also got a hotwire
prince, but I figure that's a solo rig. What say ye? TIA ;)

nb

What? No pheasant tail? Try nymphing with just one nymph as others
have suggested. I'm a pretty good nympher and never fail to take fish
using that method, and I seldom, if ever, use more than one.

You can use more than one without getting tangles by simply using a
circle cast - when your fly drifts past and below you on the stream,
simply pick up the line and lob it upstream without any false casting.

Um, why would one false cast a nymph (or a nymph rig)?

Curious,
R

But, you really should learn how to nymph and cast better before you
attempt a 2 nymph rig. I have seen some very experienced fishermen
untangling their dual fly rigs.

Break down and buy a couple of pheasant tails in size 18. You won't
regret your purchase.

Dave

Dual nymphs
 

On May 2, 10:31 pm, wrote:

Um, why would one false cast a nymph (or a nymph rig)?

Curious,
R


Since you are certainly the most persistent tosser present, why don´t
you tell us?

MC

Dual nymphs
 

False tosser to boot.

Dual nymphs
 

On Fri, 2 May 2008 13:38:46 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On May 2, 10:31 pm, wrote:

Um, why would one false cast a nymph (or a nymph rig)?

Curious,
R


Since you are certainly the most persistent tosser present, why don´t
you tell us?

MC
Um, because you like big rough men with big rough hands to plug you up
the poopshoot...? I know it has nothing to do with fishing or the
question, but since it's why you do EVERYTHING you do, it would be why
you'd do it, at least...

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know...you're calling a big rough man with big rough
hands,
Dickie

Dual nymphs
 

On May 2, 10:49 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 2 May 2008 13:38:46 -0700 (PDT), Mike

wrote:
On May 2, 10:31 pm, wrote:

Um, why would one false cast a nymph (or a nymph rig)?

Curious,
R

Since you are certainly the most persistent tosser present, why don´t
you tell us?

MC

Um, because you like big rough men with big rough hands to plug you up
the poopshoot...? I know it has nothing to do with fishing or the
question, but since it's why you do EVERYTHING you do, it would be why
you'd do it, at least...

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know...you're calling a big rough man with big rough
hands,
Dickie

Really quite amusing, observing ( I would have written "watching",
but it seems there are plenty of others doing that), a Dick behaving
like an asshole. Not at all surprising that you seem to be obsessed by
them.

Why don´t you try screwing yourself? Could be your true destiny, and
you are doubtless the only person who is ever goinjg to love you
anyway.

MC

Dual nymphs
 

On Fri, 02 May 2008 15:31:48 -0500, wrote:

Um, why would one false cast a nymph (or a nymph rig)?

You tell me. See it all the time. See guys untangling messes too.

If I want to get some distance, false casting is necessary. And, yes,
I do it all the time, effectively too.

d;o)

Dual nymphs
 

Dual nymphs
 

Mike wrote:
On May 2, 9:13 pm, rw wrote:


A two-nymph rig is, I believe, more that twice as effective as a
one-nymph rig.

The reason is that when you miss a strike on the first fly you're likely
to snag the fish with the second. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


Wouldn´t surprise me at all! :)

TL
MC

Some people who use two-nymph rigs and regularly snag fish in the anus
and everywhere else get all upset about someone using a plastic egg bead
pegged 3" or less (per Alaska regs) above a hook. It's snagging! Never
mind that the "snags" are usually on the outside of the mouth where they
do the least harm.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Dual nymphs
 

On Fri, 02 May 2008 17:23:22 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Fri, 02 May 2008 15:31:48 -0500, wrote:

Um, why would one false cast a nymph (or a nymph rig)?

You tell me.

People don't know what they are doing...?

See it all the time.

I see lots of folks doing lots of stuff "all the time" that just ain't
right...and I don't do that stuff, either...

See guys untangling messes too.

That I believe - false-casting multi-fly setups is a good way to make a
mess to untangle...

If I want to get some distance, false casting is necessary.

I'll accept that it may be necessary for you (and maybe others)...but it
isn't necessary.

And, yes, I do it all the time, effectively too.

That's fair enough, but just because some find it necessary or effective
doesn't mean that it IS necessary or effective for all (or at all).

TC,
R

d;o)

Dual nymphs
 

On Fri, 02 May 2008 14:40:13 -0700, rw
wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2008 16:19:24 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

You can use more than one without getting tangles by simply using a
circle cast - when your fly drifts past and below you on the stream,
simply pick up the line and lob it upstream without any false casting.


Um, why would one false cast a nymph (or a nymph rig)?

To get line out. Duh!

Well, **** fire and save matches, why not just pull some of that there
fishing strang outta the top of yer pole and sling it like it was a
lasso...?

HTH,
R

Dual nymphs
 

On Fri, 2 May 2008 14:09:39 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On May 2, 10:49 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 2 May 2008 13:38:46 -0700 (PDT), Mike

wrote:
On May 2, 10:31 pm, wrote:

Um, why would one false cast a nymph (or a nymph rig)?

Curious,
R

Since you are certainly the most persistent tosser present, why don´t
you tell us?

MC

Um, because you like big rough men with big rough hands to plug you up
the poopshoot...? I know it has nothing to do with fishing or the
question, but since it's why you do EVERYTHING you do, it would be why
you'd do it, at least...

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know...you're calling a big rough man with big rough
hands,
Dickie

Really quite amusing, observing ( I would have written "watching",
but it seems there are plenty of others doing that), a Dick behaving
like an asshole. Not at all surprising that you seem to be obsessed by
them.

Why don´t you try screwing yourself? Could be your true destiny, and
you are doubtless the only person who is ever goinjg to love you
anyway.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

(and snicker, too...)
R

MC

Dual nymphs
 

On May 3, 12:10 am, wrote:


I see lots of folks doing lots of stuff "all the time" that just ain't
right...and I don't do that stuff, either...


TC,
R


How does it go? Bwahahahhahhhahhahh...............................

Laughed? I nearly choked on my single malt!

MC

Dual nymphs
 

On Fri, 2 May 2008 15:22:13 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On May 3, 12:10 am, wrote:


I see lots of folks doing lots of stuff "all the time" that just ain't
right...and I don't do that stuff, either...


TC,
R


How does it go? Bwahahahhahhhahhahh...............................

Laughed? I nearly choked on my single malt!

Huh...well whadayaknow..."single malt" is slang for "penis of big rough
man with big rough hands in a trainstation" in Der Fadderland...so
THAT'S why you're always choking on one, but you say you're never
drunk...

Hey, don't worry - you're here, you're queer, and we're used to it,
R





MC

Dual nymphs
 

On May 3, 12:31 am, wrote:
On Fri, 2 May 2008 15:22:13 -0700 (PDT), Mike

wrote:
On May 3, 12:10 am, wrote:

I see lots of folks doing lots of stuff "all the time" that just ain't
right...and I don't do that stuff, either...

TC,
R

How does it go? Bwahahahhahhhahhahh...............................

Laughed? I nearly choked on my single malt!

Huh...well whadayaknow..."single malt" is slang for "penis of big rough
man with big rough hands in a trainstation" in Der Fadderland...so
THAT'S why you're always choking on one, but you say you're never
drunk...

Hey, don't worry - you're here, you're queer, and we're used to it,
R



MC

Dickie boy, that you are a really obnoxious piece of work never
actually bothered me all that much. But that you are also apparently
extremely stupid does bother me more than somewhat.

Go back to playing with yourself, you dumb tosser. Nobody else is
interested in your rubbish.

MC

Dual nymphs
 

On Fri, 2 May 2008 15:53:55 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On May 3, 12:31 am, wrote:
On Fri, 2 May 2008 15:22:13 -0700 (PDT), Mike

wrote:
On May 3, 12:10 am, wrote:

I see lots of folks doing lots of stuff "all the time" that just ain't
right...and I don't do that stuff, either...

TC,
R

How does it go? Bwahahahhahhhahhahh...............................

Laughed? I nearly choked on my single malt!

Huh...well whadayaknow..."single malt" is slang for "penis of big rough
man with big rough hands in a trainstation" in Der Fadderland...so
THAT'S why you're always choking on one, but you say you're never
drunk...

Hey, don't worry - you're here, you're queer, and we're used to it,
R



MC

Dickie boy, that you are a really obnoxious piece of work never
actually bothered me all that much. But that you are also apparently
extremely stupid does bother me more than somewhat.

It's the middle of the night in Der Fadderland...don't you have some big
rough men with big rough hands waiting on you or something...

Go back to playing with yourself, you dumb tosser.

Sorry, but I've no interest in your perverted fantasies....

Nobody else is interested in your rubbish.

Nobody? OK, name them all...

Here's the amusing thing: if even just one person on the entire planet
has any interest whatsoever, you're wrong yet again...

And here's the REALLY amusing thing - you've already demonstrated that
YOU have an interest by the fact that you read and respond...and so, not
only are you wrong yet again, it's been you yourself that has proven
that you wrong...yet again...

SNICKER,
R

Dual nymphs
 

Dual nymphs
 

On Fri, 02 May 2008 16:48:12 -0700, rw
wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2008 14:40:13 -0700, rw
wrote:


wrote:

On Fri, 02 May 2008 16:19:24 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:


You can use more than one without getting tangles by simply using a
circle cast - when your fly drifts past and below you on the stream,
simply pick up the line and lob it upstream without any false casting.


Um, why would one false cast a nymph (or a nymph rig)?

To get line out. Duh!


Well, **** fire and save matches, why not just pull some of that there
fishing strang outta the top of yer pole and sling it like it was a
lasso...?

No actual reply to the issue -- just over the top bull****, as usual.

The "issue" (I'll use your word, but I don't consider it an "issue") is
that one shouldn't be false-casting double rigs - or at the very least,
novices should definitely not be doing so - and false-casting a nymph
should be, well, let's say the exception rather than the rule. Dave
said it, and therefore, I asked Dave why he thought one would do it. You
joined in with a smart-assed remark and so, on that "issue," you got an
"actual reply."

And there you are,
R

Dual nymphs
 

rw wrote in
m:

Some people who use two-nymph rigs and regularly snag fish in the anus


When I meet someone who regularly snags fish while using two nymphs, I'll
ask him about it. Meantime, a 3-fly cast of wets is as traditional a fly
fishing setup as you'll ever find.

Regarding this fish anus fixation of yours, I've heard that if you want to
have your way with the fish, it's neater if you wrap it in duct tape.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Dual nymphs
 

On May 3, 2:25 am, Scott Seidman wrote:

When I meet someone who regularly snags fish while using two nymphs, I'll
ask him about it. Meantime, a 3-fly cast of wets is as traditional a fly
fishing setup as you'll ever find.

A three fly cast of wet flies is indeed a traditional method, but what
has that to do with fishing two weighted nymphs, most likely with
split shot weights or bead heads, and a bobber to boot, in water of
unknown depth, thus apparently necessitating using two of them in the
first place?

Much less fish anuses, or duct tape?

Such a weighted rig is commonly used for raking fish. For the simple
reason that unweighted flies don´t work very well for such a purpose.
This is not to say that everbody who uses such double fly weighted
rigs is attempting to rake fish, but such a rig makes it possible. The
chance of snagging a fish with a single weighted nymph is very
considerably less, indeed vanishingly small. Even if you know how deep
the water is.

Just once, it would be really nice to see a sensible logical pleasant
discussion of some tactic or other on here, without any name calling,
bull****, or total stupidity.

MC

Dual nymphs
 

Mike wrote in news:e02e11b5-4948-4622-950d-
:

Such a weighted rig is commonly used for raking fish. For the simple
reason that unweighted flies donït work very well for such a purpose.


In fact, I'll weight the upper fly, and the lower fly is unweighted.
Weighting the lower fly would be illegal on some of the waters I fish.


--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Dual nymphs
 

On Fri, 02 May 2008 14:57:37 -0700, rw
wrote:

Some people who use two-nymph rigs and regularly snag fish in the anus
and everywhere else get all upset about someone using a plastic egg bead
pegged 3" or less (per Alaska regs) above a hook. It's snagging! Never
mind that the "snags" are usually on the outside of the mouth where they
do the least harm.

Every time I have used the glass (plastic) egg pegged above the hook,
the hook-set has almost always been in the upper jaw, smack damn in
the middle of the mouth, a position that, as you say does the least
harm.

I asked a Maine Game Warden about using this method and he said that
if I used a fly as the hook it would be legal.

Dave

Dual nymphs
 

On 3 May 2008 00:25:33 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

I've heard that if you want to
have your way with the fish, it's neater if you wrap it in duct tape.

Too funny, Scott. POTM. Early too.

Dave

Dual nymphs
 

On Fri, 2 May 2008 17:46:13 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

in water of
unknown depth, thus apparently necessitating using two of them in the
first place?

Why do you say water of unknown depth? Just about every water I fish
I know how deep it is. And, the last person I heard criticize a
strike indicator was George Gehrke, and he did so only because he
didn't sell them. Some of the best nymphers *in the United States*
use multi-fly rigs (where legal) and strike indicators. If I am high
sticking it, I do not use an indicator. But that is not the only way
to nymph. If I am going up and across (very effective) I use a strike
indicator; it makes mending easier and you can better control the
depth of the fly.

Nothing wrong with multi-fly rigs or strike indicators.

Dave

Dual nymphs
 

On Fri, 02 May 2008 17:10:35 -0500, wrote:

If I want to get some distance, false casting is necessary.

I'll accept that it may be necessary for you (and maybe others)...but it
isn't necessary.

And, yes, I do it all the time, effectively too.

That's fair enough, but just because some find it necessary or effective
doesn't mean that it IS necessary or effective for all (or at all).


Well, if you can pull 60 feet of line off your reel and cast it 60
feet without using a false cast, good luck. I'd pay money to see that
one.

Davey

Dual nymphs
 

On May 3, 3:05 am, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Fri, 2 May 2008 17:46:13 -0700 (PDT), Mike

wrote:
in water of
unknown depth, thus apparently necessitating using two of them in the
first place?

Why do you say water of unknown depth? Just about every water I fish
I know how deep it is. And, the last person I heard criticize a
strike indicator was George Gehrke, and he did so only because he
didn't sell them. Some of the best nymphers *in the United States*
use multi-fly rigs (where legal) and strike indicators. If I am high
sticking it, I do not use an indicator. But that is not the only way
to nymph. If I am going up and across (very effective) I use a strike
indicator; it makes mending easier and you can better control the
depth of the fly.

Nothing wrong with multi-fly rigs or strike indicators.

Dave

Because that was a reason given for using them;

QUOTE

When you've got two flies separated by 24" or so, there's a greater
likelihood that at least one of them will be in the right place at the
right time. Even for those who have experience, depth variations in
the
streams are easier to deal with when you have two nymphs.

UNQUOTE

I have nothing at all against multi-fly rigs, or indicators either. I
often use them myself.

The main point here is, that a beginner was asking the best way to use
a dual nymph rig, and in my opinion, the most sensible answer to that
question from a beginner is "not at all".

I think he would be better advised to use a single nymph with an
indicator. Once he gains some experience with that, he can then use
multi fly rigs if he wishes, but it is usually folly to start with
them.

Some obviously disagree. Good. No problem.

The gentleman concerned will no doubt make his own mind up about it
anyway.

MC