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Sportsmen Against Bush December 4th, 2003 09:04 AM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
Yellowstone National Park (ID,MT,WY)
Poacher Arrested Following Stand-Off


On November 22nd, rangers and special agents arrested Edward A.
Johnson, 31, of Livingston, Montana, following a citizen report of an
antelope poaching in progress in the Stevens Creek area of the park.
Ranger Doug Berringer and a park special agent were first to arrive on
scene and saw a vehicle matching the description of the suspect
vehicle attempting to leave the area. The vehicle was stopped and a
short stand-off ensued. According to the criminal complaint filed in
this case, Johnson was repeatedly ordered at gunpoint to keep his
hands in view and to get down on the ground. Johnson instead opted to
reach repeatedly and aggressively toward his waistband, then
reportedly told the rangers to shoot him. He was ultimately taken into
custody. A dead antelope and a rifle were discovered in the front seat
of the red Ford Bronco he was driving. Johnson was booked into the
Mammoth Hot Springs jail for violating the Lacey Act (poaching),
resisting and impeding federal officers, using a weapon in a national
park, operating a vehicle under the influence of alcohol, possession
of drug paraphernalia, and operating a vehicle off of designated park
roadways. A detention hearing was set for November 25th. The
investigation is continuing and the case is being further reviewed by
the United States Attorney's Office for the possible filing of
additional felony weapons charges. This was the sixth known wildlife
poaching case inside the park within the last two months.M
[Submitted by Chris Fors, Special Agent]

http://data2.itc.nps.gov/morningrepo...greportold.cfm

Jack W Clarkson December 5th, 2003 01:37 AM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
(Sportsmen Against Bush) wrote in message . com...
Yellowstone National Park (ID,MT,WY)
Poacher Arrested Following Stand-Off

Snip

I would caution you that there is a amount of liability associated
with your post. There is nothing within the article that identifies
the perpertrator of this crime as a member of the Blue Ribbon
Coalition. The slander here is attributal to you personally. I for
one do not appreciate your attempts to demean a fine organization that
supports individual freedoms and public access to public lands.

Jack

Rick Clemons December 5th, 2003 04:46 AM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
In article ,
(Jack W Clarkson) wrote:

(Sportsmen Against Bush) wrote in message
. com...
Yellowstone National Park (ID,MT,WY)
Poacher Arrested Following Stand-Off

Snip

I would caution you that there is a amount of liability associated
with your post. There is nothing within the article that identifies
the perpertrator of this crime as a member of the Blue Ribbon
Coalition. The slander here is attributal to you personally. I for
one do not appreciate your attempts to demean a fine organization that
supports individual freedoms and public access to public lands.


And do those individual freedoms include poaching? How about shooting
weapons in national parks? Does your support of public access to public
lands include driving while intoxicated? Instead of threatening people,
why don't you find out whether Johnson is a member of BRC?

--
Rick Clemons

This is my email address, not a sign that I represent the university in any official capacity.

Jack W Clarkson December 5th, 2003 04:52 PM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
(Rick Clemons) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Jack W Clarkson) wrote:

(Sportsmen Against Bush) wrote in message
. com...
Yellowstone National Park (ID,MT,WY)
Poacher Arrested Following Stand-Off

Snip

snip


The answer to your question is: Of course not!

I do not have to find out anything. There is nothing in the article
that
would indicate that the perpertrator is anything but a thoughtless and
reckless
individual. No tie in the BRC is mentioned in the article. Yor
response to my post is interesting.

You seem to be educated beyond your intelligence.

Jack

David Snedeker December 5th, 2003 07:49 PM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 

"Jack W Clarkson" wrote in message
om...
(Sportsmen Against Bush) wrote in message

. com...
Yellowstone National Park (ID,MT,WY)
Poacher Arrested Following Stand-Off

Snip

I would caution you that there is a amount of liability associated
with your post.


Horse pucky! That is exactly the kind of threat that folks familiar with the
shady operations of this deviously funded "Blueribbon" mouthpiece of mostly
foreign sno-mobile corporations have come to expect. Why don't you poaching
Aryan Nations loving assholes phone Tokyo for instructions instead of
threatening Americans? :-)))

Dave
Most BRC members are not aware of who controls the BRC



Rick Clemons December 6th, 2003 05:34 AM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
In article ,
(Jack W Clarkson) wrote:


The answer to your question is: Of course not!


I asked several questions. Do you say no to all of them?

I do not have to find out anything. There is nothing in the article
that
would indicate that the perpertrator is anything but a thoughtless and
reckless
individual. No tie in the BRC is mentioned in the article. Yor
response to my post is interesting.


Because the article did not mention an affiliation with the BRC, does not
mean that Johnson is not a member. The person who posted may have
knowledge of the affiliation, but I do not claim to know. Again, instead
of threatening people, and now insulting them, why don't you find out who
this guy is? Of course, you are right, because you do not have to find
out anything. But, if you want to argue with the person who posted the
original message, you might want to obtain some evidence.

You seem to be educated beyond your intelligence.


Hey Jack, what the hell does that mean?

--
Rick Clemons

This is my email address, not a sign that I represent the university in any official capacity.

[email protected] December 6th, 2003 06:41 AM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 23:34:28 -0600, (Rick Clemons)
wrote:

if you want to argue with the person who posted the
original message, you might want to obtain some evidence.


Not on the 'Net. The convention on the 'Net, as in many real life
areas, is that the person making a statement is the one who has to
provide the evidence. If I post that 2 + 2 = 5, it's not up to my
critics to provide evidence that I am incorrect. They can merely
state it to be contrary to general arithmetic. It is up to me to do
the proof of my statement. If I can't quickly pop up with a different
brand of math, _and_ apologize for not having mentioned it in my
original post, that proves 2 + 2 = 5, I'd best just slink off quietly
into the darkest corner of trolldom.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

Jack W Clarkson December 6th, 2003 10:38 PM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
"David Snedeker" wrote in message ...
"Jack W Clarkson" wrote in message
om...
(Sportsmen Against Bush) wrote in message

. com...
Yellowstone National Park (ID,MT,WY)
Poacher Arrested Following Stand-Off

Snip

I would caution you that there is a amount of liability associated
with your post.


Horse pucky! That is exactly the kind of threat that folks familiar with the
shady operations of this deviously funded "Blueribbon" mouthpiece of mostly
foreign sno-mobile corporations have come to expect. Why don't you poaching
Aryan Nations loving assholes phone Tokyo for instructions instead of
threatening Americans? :-)))

Dave
Most BRC members are not aware of who controls the BRC



Nor evidently are you. I happen to dispise aryan nations. They are a
bunch of "nuts" such as yourself that go off half cocked in attempt to
deny truth, and instill hate.

I do belong to the BRC, I own and drive snowmobiles, my John Deere was
the last one I had the was manufactured in the USA. Can't purchase
what is not made.

Where in this post does it identify the poster as an American.
Perhaps you should make an effort to determine the poster's sex,
nationality, religious preference, sexual preference and level of
education. Or do you prefer to run on ass umption, as you did with
ass umming that I am a part of the Aryan Nations.

I am not a lawyer, preferring honest work.

Where does your anger come from Dave?

David Snedeker December 7th, 2003 04:11 AM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 

"Jack W Clarkson" wrote in message
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SNIPPED WORD SALAD

Well Jack I don't see any point in sugar-coating things for people who lend
their names to groups that oppose responsible snowmobile use and damage this
country.

Since you are a member and claim to be in the know, you probably know that
the BRC has supported the campaigns of Aryan Nations-friendly candidates.
And since you are a member you might even be able to explain to folks how
the system of laundering memberships and manufacturer contributions via the
dealers works.

And since you were huffing and puffing about a lawsuit, your comment about
lawyers is kind of confused isn't it? I mean you are the blowhard posturing
about suing people?

The bottom line is that like many people, you got suckered into joining a
non-democratic, thinly veiled lobbying scam controlled by foreign interests,
because they fed you a line of bull**** about how your sno-machine fetish
was threatened if any attempt was made to keep the drunks and children off
the machines, apply any safety standards, etc.. These outfits depend on
suckers like you.

Dave



Jack W Clarkson December 7th, 2003 03:26 PM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
"David Snedeker" wrote in message ...
"Jack W Clarkson" wrote in message
om...
SNIPPED WORD SALAD

Well Jack I don't see any point in sugar-coating things for people who lend
their names to groups that oppose responsible snowmobile use and damage this
country.

Since you are a member and claim to be in the know, you probably know that
the BRC has supported the campaigns of Aryan Nations-friendly candidates.
And since you are a member you might even be able to explain to folks how
the system of laundering memberships and manufacturer contributions via the
dealers works.

And since you were huffing and puffing about a lawsuit, your comment about
lawyers is kind of confused isn't it? I mean you are the blowhard posturing
about suing people?

The bottom line is that like many people, you got suckered into joining a
non-democratic, thinly veiled lobbying scam controlled by foreign interests,
because they fed you a line of bull**** about how your sno-machine fetish
was threatened if any attempt was made to keep the drunks and children off
the machines, apply any safety standards, etc.. These outfits depend on
suckers like you.

Dave


Dave,
Your ass umptions are riduculous. I did not threaten any law suit, I
stated that there is "liability" in making slanderous statments as was
done with the headline of the post. Your Ass umptions that you know
the "truth" about BRC is totally incorrect. It is you who has been
suckered into some erroneous beliefs.
I am sure that if the headline was "GYC Member arrested in National
Park" you would be questioning the motivation of the poster. Since
the headline slanders an organization that you dislike, you mount a
campaign against those that do question the headline. Your reactions
are a pretty good indicator of your ability to sort things out for
yourself Dave.

So long unitl tomorrow......

Jack

David Snedeker December 8th, 2003 08:27 PM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 

"Jack W Clarkson" wrote in message
om...
Dave,
Your ass umptions are riduculous. I did not threaten any law suit, I
stated that there is "liability" in making slanderous statments as was
done with the headline of the post. Your Ass umptions that you know
the "truth" about BRC is totally incorrect. SNIP SNIP


Well Jack I see you are still beauregarding it. Amazing: You enter the
thread trying to intimidate, then you play the coy abuser, sneering that
your "liability" crap isn't a threat, and now you play that you don't know
about the BRCs ties to foreign companies and friendliness with extreamists.
But maybe you know of another West Yellowstone guy named "Jack Clarkson?"
You know, the fellow who likes to dress up to look like a police officer and
intimidate people?

That couldn't be you could it? Because that guy seemed to be behind some
sort of organized effort to intimidate other West Yellowstone and Montana
citizens who wanted to curb late nite/early hours snowmobile use (11:15pm to
5:45am) in the town where the bars close 3am. I guess this other "Jack
Clarkson" didn't think he was threatening when he dressed up like a cop and
ran around taking pictures of people. Did they ever lock that other "Jack
Carlson" up for impersonating a police officer?

Here's a quote from the High Country News of 4/1/01 on this "Jack Carlson"
fellow.


"To hell with" the people who want a curfew, says Jack Clarkson, who works
as a counselor, runs a summer resort, used to run the Chamber of Commerce,
and was also elected to the city council in November. "They need to take
their head out of their ass and see they live in a town that lives on
snowmobiles."

Clarkson confronted staffers and volunteers of a Bozeman-based environmental
group, the Greater Yellowstone Coalition, when they came to town in February
2001. They boarded Alpen Guides snowcoaches in town and were about to drive
into Yellowstone Park to take photos of snowmobile traffic there. Clarkson
leaned into a coach and snapped photos of them. At the time, he was wearing
black pants, a black shirt and a black cap with a West Yellowstone Police
logo.

Several people in the coach live in town and complained to the police chief,
saying Clarkson seemed to be pretending to be a cop. "It was intimidation -
what on earth would you call it?" says one, Bruce Coan.

"So here we have the ex-president of the Chamber of Commerce, interfering
with my business," says Alpen Guides' Carsley.

"I just took some pictures of the people who were going to take pictures,"
Clarkson says. "Anyone can buy one of those hats at (the town police
station) for $15." He got rid of the hat after a talk with the chief, he
says.

"I think the town has regressed," says Scott Clewell, whose attempts to
scratch out a living here include a stint as police chief in the early
1980s. He says he got a faceful of hostility in a local bar recently. "I
just said I thought (quieter snowmobiles) would be a nice way to quiet down
the park," he says, and a woman whose family is in the snowmobile business
drenched him with a beer.
END OF QUOTE from HCN 4/1/01

Dave




Bill McDonald December 9th, 2003 04:31 PM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
Great post David...

Tim J. December 9th, 2003 04:35 PM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
"Bill McDonald" wrote...
Great post David...


Great post, Bill. :)



Wolfgang December 9th, 2003 05:31 PM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 

"Tim J." wrote in message
...
"Bill McDonald" wrote...
Great post David...


Great post, Bill. :)


Arrrr!

Wolfgang



George Cleveland December 9th, 2003 07:00 PM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:31:06 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:


"Tim J." wrote in message
...
"Bill McDonald" wrote...
Great post David...


Great post, Bill. :)


Arrrr!

Wolfgang


Great Arrrr!! Wolfgang

g.c.

Guyz-N-Flyz December 9th, 2003 09:48 PM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 

"George Cleveland" wrote in message
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Great Arrrr!! Wolfgang

g.c.


Ruffles have ridges, George.

Op



David Snedeker December 10th, 2003 09:47 PM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
Great post George.
Dave
Purrrrrrrrr.




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