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Tom Littleton May 26th, 2008 01:56 PM

Penn's rehash
 
Well, it's another year and the Penn's Clave, or should I say, the Penn's
Mini-Clave, has ended. We had but a handful of hearty souls for this, the
ninth Penn's Clave. Attendees included: Mike "Handyman" Shaw, Mike Makela,
Frank Reid, Dave Gunnett, Joel Axelrad, Vince Norris,and Bruce Fisher(a
permanent fixture at the Penn's Creek Angler). Conditions were, to say the
least, tough.
As of yesterday, the flow at Penn's still exceeded 700 cfs, so most of the
fishing was on Spring and Big Fishing Creeks. Spring was fishing very well,
with Sulfurs hatching daily to rising, but very selective, trout. Fishing
Creek yielded it's trout more reluctantly, with Grey Fox and March Brown
duns mixed in with the Sulfurs, and a spinner fall in the chilly
evenings....oh, did I mention that it sleeted a couple of times? To the best
of my knowledge, the largest fish of the trip was caught by Handyman, a
brown of a chunky 16 inches or so, maybe more. Further, fish were caught by
all, on every day, but were well earned.
Highlights: On Tuesday, I found out how difficult it is to leave a midstream
spot quickly in a driving rainstorm, when the fly has hooked itself to one's
bootlace(sort of like a marionette act). On Thursday, I noticed the darkness
of wings on Fishing Creek orange sulfurs, compared to those elsewhere.
Several times, ducks were spared the Miller touch, and allowed to roam the
roads safely. Finally, in an odd reversal, Reid showed that he helps deer
cross the road....presumably, he hunts for little old ladies in the fall.
Finally, a couple of thoughts: First, next year will be Penn's Clave
no.10(or X in Roman numerals). It will be held from the Saturday before
Memorial Day(May 23?) until June 1. This will near-guarantee the Drake hatch
during the clave. I am going to try to encourage all former Penn's Clave
attendees to make the Penn's Clave X a big one, a homecoming, if you will.
And, lastly, I note that I have overlooked the attendance of our youngest
clavers this year, Matt and Dan Makela, who enjoyed the first weekend, and
both caught fish. Dan may have also started working on his Full Reid
technique, leaving the possibility of a Youth Division in the annual Duck
Butt awards.
Tom



Frank Reid[_2_] May 27th, 2008 01:39 PM

Penn's rehash
 
As Tom said, the wx was terrible, but the fishing wasn't too bad. As
a matter of fact, I think this is one of the rare trips where I was
never skunked on a day. That being said, casting to a rising fish in
40 mph gusts with rain, sleet and hail hitting you in the face is not
the best of gentlemanly fishing. No ladies in bikinis in a golf cart
to serve the drinks. It did cut down on the other fishermen.
Its great to know that the Centre county fish can still be picky even
in the worst of times. Assistant Clavemeister Tom (Handyman Mike got
the title for the year) carries 1600 Penns Creek flies in his vest.
He still stood there trying find a fly that would match what the fish
were taking and found he didn't have it.
This was the year that Penns was unfishable. Really sad. All the
springs in the county were flowing into the creek, keeping the water
at high levels. The hatches came off like clockwork, but the fish did
not rise to them.
To those that have been to Penns, you may remember a huge tree on the
bank to the left of the trestle. It was severely undercut, leaving a
very deep hole in the water at its roots. I caught my first Penns
Creek brown in that hole. That tree fell into the creek this Spring.
It is now about 100 yards downstream of the trestle in the middle of
the current. The intact root ball is about 10 foot tall and 20 feet
wide. I'm sure an island will form there over time.
We did not see the cicadas. After a warm April, the wx was too cold
in May. They should be hoping in about two weeks.
I would like to thank everyone for driving me around and hosting me
again this year. The group was small, but the camaraderie as always
was great. I did realize that I've not fully recovered from surgery
earlier this year.
As a side note, on my trip back, I stayed in Bettendorf, IA. Aside
from the fact that I had one of the best pizzas in my life (and I've
had a lot of pizza over the years), the town became a refuge center
for the tornados that struck north and northwest of there. Right
now, I'm batting 1000 for tornados affecting my return trips to
Nebraska from Penns.
Frank Reid
(note: never play poker with someone that comes up with a variation
called "midnight baseball.")

Dave LaCourse May 27th, 2008 04:27 PM

Penn's rehash
 
On Mon, 26 May 2008 12:56:50 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:

First, next year will be Penn's Clave
no.10(or X in Roman numerals). It will be held from the Saturday before
Memorial Day(May 23?) until June 1. This will near-guarantee the Drake hatch
during the clave. I am going to try to encourage all former Penn's Clave
attendees to make the Penn's Clave X a big one, a homecoming, if you will.


I will try to make it, Tom. However, I hold no hope of ever seeing
that myth known as the Drake Hatch. Riiiiiiiight!

I'm at Lakewood using Joanne's VZ Access Manager (via cell phone) to
communicate. It's a little slow, but good enough for e-mails and
news. Had an excellent morning with two nice landlocks (21 and 19) on
nymphs, two more (16ers) on Adams. And then it clouded up. Without a
raincoat, I headed back to camps. Most fisherman are at Second
Current fishing the sucker spawn. Too crowded for me. I had the dam
from one side to the other and downstream to the first pool all to
myself.

Starting to cool off. Good afternoon to snooze and rest this old
body.

Dave




Tom Littleton May 27th, 2008 11:13 PM

Penn's rehash
 

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...


I will try to make it, Tom.


very good news. And, you are more than welcome without bringing me some gift
that proves spectacular.

However, I hold no hope of ever seeing
that myth known as the Drake Hatch. Riiiiiiiight!


save your receipts on the way down. I'll refund the gas
(ok, maybe I'll just fill it with regular when you're not lookingg) for
the trip if you don't see drakes, in large numbers, during that time-frame.
(disclaimer: this offer is only extended to Dave. I would not want to be
holding the gas tab for the whole bunch of you! )



[email protected] May 28th, 2008 12:38 AM

Penn's rehash
 
Ah...I thought it was a recipe from Frank's bear...

Glad y'all had fun,
R

Dave LaCourse May 28th, 2008 01:10 AM

Penn's rehash
 
On Tue, 27 May 2008 22:13:28 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:


"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
.. .


I will try to make it, Tom.


very good news. And, you are more than welcome without bringing me some gift
that proves spectacular.

However, I hold no hope of ever seeing
that myth known as the Drake Hatch. Riiiiiiiight!


save your receipts on the way down. I'll refund the gas
(ok, maybe I'll just fill it with regular when you're not lookingg) for
the trip if you don't see drakes, in large numbers, during that time-frame.
(disclaimer: this offer is only extended to Dave. I would not want to be
holding the gas tab for the whole bunch of you! )

d;o)

Colder than a well diggers ass up here tonight. Gonna have to sleep
with my watch cap on as well as extra blankets.

Fishin is good, however.

Dave



Joel *DFD* May 28th, 2008 05:50 AM

Penn's rehash
 
On May 27, 7:39�am, Frank Reid wrote:
(note: never play poker with someone that comes up with a variation
called "midnight baseball.")


:-)


riverman May 28th, 2008 11:56 AM

Penn's rehash
 
On May 28, 12:50Â*pm, "Joel *DFD*" wrote:
On May 27, 7:39�am, Frank Reid wrote:

(note: never play poker with someone that comes up with a variation
called "midnight baseball.")


:-)


If you boys are poker players, you'll like this game. It evolved from
a monthly get together we have here in HK, and even with 2 or 3
seasoned (read: unadventurous with new games) players, this has caught
on as our #1 game.

Basically, its 5-card draw, no surprises (draw 4 with an ace, etc),
but the hand that takes the pot must be the highest hand at the table
(as usual), AND it must contain a 3.

For example, if I am holding a boat, aces over threes, and Frank has 4
fives, then I don't get the pot because his hand beat mine. He is a
'spoiler' and the game carries on with a reshuffle.

Its a lot of fun....sometimes a few spoilers come out in a row and the
pot grows a lot, Like someone has three 3s, and someone else has 3 Ks.
The moment of decision comes when you get dealt something like
3,9,10,J,Q: do you keep the potential straight to be a spoiler, or
the 3 and Q to try for the win? Or what if you have 5,5,9,9,A? Do you
play for the boat (to be the spoiler), or keep the higher pair to try
to draw a 3, or the ace and go for the big draw (something worthwhile
with a 3), or toss the ace and hope to draw a 3?

Since the highest hands in the deck (royal flushes, high straights)
are spoiler hands, having a hight hand with a 3 isn't a guarantee of a
win.

We need a name for this; "3's a crowd" has come up, as had "menage a
trois".

--riverman

riverman May 28th, 2008 12:04 PM

Penn's rehash
 
On May 28, 12:50Â*pm, "Joel *DFD*" wrote:
On May 27, 7:39�am, Frank Reid wrote:

(note: never play poker with someone that comes up with a variation
called "midnight baseball.")


:-)


If you boys are poker players, you'll like this game. It evolved from
a monthly get together we have here in HK, and even with 2 or 3
seasoned (read: unadventurous with new games) players, this has
caught
on as our #1 game.

Basically, its 5-card draw, no surprises (draw 4 with an ace, etc),
but the hand that takes the pot must be the highest hand at the table
(as usual), AND it must contain a 3.


For example, if I am holding a boat, aces over threes, and Frank has
4
fives, then I don't get the pot because his hand beat mine. However,
he doesn't get the pot either because his wasn't the high hand at the
table. He is a
'spoiler' and the game carries on with a reshuffle, and the next
player dealing.


Its a lot of fun....sometimes a few spoilers come out in a row and
the
pot grows a lot, Like someone has three 3s, and someone else has 3
Ks.
The moment of decision comes when you get dealt something like
3,9,10,J,Q: do you keep the potential straight to be a spoiler, or
the 3 and Q to try for the win? Or what if you have 5,5,9,9,A? Do you
play for the boat (to be the spoiler), or keep the higher pair to try
to draw a 3, or the ace and go for the big draw (something worthwhile
with a 3), or toss the ace and hope to draw a 3?


Since the highest hands in the deck (royal flushes, high straights)
are spoiler hands, having a hight hand with a 3 isn't a guarantee of
a
win.


We need a name for this; "3's a crowd" has come up, as had "menage a
trois".


--riverman



riverman May 28th, 2008 12:07 PM

Penn's rehash
 
On May 28, 12:50Â*pm, "Joel *DFD*" wrote:
On May 27, 7:39�am, Frank Reid wrote:

(note: never play poker with someone that comes up with a variation
called "midnight baseball.")


:-)


(damn...third try at this post)


If you boys are poker players, you'll like this game. It evolved from
a monthly get together we have here in HK, and even with 2 or 3
seasoned (read: unadventurous with new games) players, this has
caught on as our #1 game.

Basically, its 5-card draw, no surprises (draw 4 with an ace, etc),
but the hand that takes the pot must be the highest hand at the table
(as usual), AND it must contain a 3.


For example, if I am holding a boat, aces over threes, and Frank has
4 fives, then I don't get the pot because his hand beat mine.
However,
he doesn't get the pot either because his hand doesn't have a 3. He is
a
'spoiler' and the game carries on with a reshuffle, and the next
player dealing.


Its a lot of fun....sometimes a few spoilers come out in a row and
the pot grows a lot, Like someone has three 3s, and someone else has
3
Ks. The moment of decision comes when you get dealt something like
3,9,10,J,Q: do you keep the potential straight to be a spoiler, or
the 3 and Q to try for the win? Or what if you have 5,5,9,9,A? Do you
play for the boat (to be the spoiler), or keep the higher pair to try
to draw a 3, or the ace and go for the big draw (something worthwhile
with a 3), or toss the ace and hope to draw a 3?


Since the highest hands in the deck (royal flushes, high straights)
are spoiler hands, having a hight hand with a 3 isn't a guarantee of
a win.


We need a name for this; "3's a crowd" has come up, as had "Menage a
trois". For now, we call it "That 3 game"

--riverman

Frank Reid[_2_] May 28th, 2008 02:10 PM

Penn's rehash
 
On May 27, 6:38*pm, wrote:
Ah...I thought it was a recipe from Frank's bear...

Glad y'all had fun,
R


On Saturday night, we were coming back from Big Fishing Creek on 445
when Tom and Mike had to pull over to find a lost cell phone. A
couple of deer and fawns crossed the road behind us. One fawn, still
unstable on his legs, ended up getting confused by the headlights and
stayed standing in the road. We flagged the cars down and, with Messr
Makela watching out that daddy deer didn't come out of the woods to
kick my ass (in reality, Mike would have just hollared at me and run
like hell), I went over, picked up the fawn and sent it down the
hillside to join mamma and daddy. It brayed like a young lamb and
weighed about 12 lbs.
Whilst purchasing supplies in the gas station a few minutes later, I
mentioned the incident to the young lady behind the counter. She said
I should have kept it. I asked her if it had something to do with
Pennsylvania veal recipes. She didn't understand.
Frank Reid

Scott Seidman May 28th, 2008 02:16 PM

Penn's rehash
 
Frank Reid wrote in news:42e7289e-4d73-4f6f-aa5b-
:

On May 27, 6:38*pm, wrote:
Ah...I thought it was a recipe from Frank's bear...

Glad y'all had fun,
R


On Saturday night, we were coming back from Big Fishing Creek on 445
when Tom and Mike had to pull over to find a lost cell phone. A
couple of deer and fawns crossed the road behind us. One fawn, still
unstable on his legs, ended up getting confused by the headlights and
stayed standing in the road. We flagged the cars down and, with Messr
Makela watching out that daddy deer didn't come out of the woods to
kick my ass (in reality, Mike would have just hollared at me and run
like hell), I went over, picked up the fawn and sent it down the
hillside to join mamma and daddy. It brayed like a young lamb and
weighed about 12 lbs.
Whilst purchasing supplies in the gas station a few minutes later, I
mentioned the incident to the young lady behind the counter. She said
I should have kept it. I asked her if it had something to do with
Pennsylvania veal recipes. She didn't understand.
Frank Reid



I can picture your barley stew pot with four legs sticking out the top.


--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Frank Reid[_2_] May 28th, 2008 02:35 PM

Penn's rehash
 
On May 28, 8:16*am, Scott Seidman wrote:
Frank Reid wrote in news:42e7289e-4d73-4f6f-aa5b-
:





On May 27, 6:38*pm, wrote:
Ah...I thought it was a recipe from Frank's bear...


Glad y'all had fun,
R


On Saturday night, we were coming back from Big Fishing Creek on 445
when Tom and Mike had to pull over to find a lost cell phone. *A
couple of deer and fawns crossed the road behind us. *One fawn, still
unstable on his legs, ended up getting confused by the headlights and
stayed standing in the road. *We flagged the cars down and, with Messr
Makela watching out that daddy deer didn't come out of the woods to
kick my ass (in reality, Mike would have just hollared at me and run
like hell), I went over, picked up the fawn and sent it down the
hillside to join mamma and daddy. *It brayed like a young lamb and
weighed about 12 lbs.
Whilst purchasing supplies in the gas station a few minutes later, I
mentioned the incident to the young lady behind the counter. *She said
I should have kept it. *I asked her if it had something to do with
Pennsylvania veal recipes. *She didn't understand.
Frank Reid


I can picture your barley stew pot with four legs sticking out the top.


That's what the chainsaw is for.
Frank Reid

Mike May 28th, 2008 02:57 PM

Penn's rehash
 
Well time for my .02.......Was a pleasure to share the field of battle
with Tom Mike Bruce Frank Joel and Dave......Pulled into Three
Streamer Stans Thursday about midnight looked at the pool and thought
gonna be a great clave water looked perfect last forecast was 40%
chance of rain one day in 10 was 60% chance.... When I left Stans it
started raining and didn't stop until Monday it seems rained on and
off for most of the clave but fish were caught on spring fishing and
yes penns The Finn and I went to blue rock hole and the cabin run
where the finn promply caught 2 fish me zero we then went up to the
blue rock hole where he caught 2 more plus a bass me zero I had to
leave for home so the count on penns was the finn 5 me zero and we
both nymphed with yellow stones..........what can I say had a great
time fishing with some good friends caught fish ate well and can't
wait to get back down there again...........
Haven't seen much intrest in the 10th annual Penns Creek Clave
come on gents step up and let your voice be heard you have a year to
make plans and leave this date open for the clave if needed come after
Memorial Day will be there all week.........Again it was great seeing
and fishing with some great friends............

[email protected] May 28th, 2008 03:28 PM

Penn's rehash
 
On May 28, 9:57*am, Mike wrote:

* * * Haven't seen much intrest in the 10th annual Penns Creek Clave
come on gents step up and let your voice be heard you have a year to
make plans and leave this date open for the clave


A year out is a LOT of lead time- hard to keep track of where I need
to be next WEEK- but the thought of a grand event for Penns X has put
the event on my radar and I will try to be there.

Bill

rb608 May 28th, 2008 07:44 PM

Penn's rehash
 
On May 26, 8:56*am, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
Well, it's another year and the Penn's Clave, or should I say, the Penn's
Mini-Clave, has ended.


Have "well done!" from me. I had dreams of riding the bike up for a
day/evening; but the bike doesn't start worth a **** in cold weather
(warm either for that matter), and 3.5 hours in chilly riding weather
with a threat of rain just didn't come together for me to make it.
Sorry.

Thanks from a non-attendee for keeping it alive and making it fun for
those without the non-.

With a year's notice, my odds of making it to X are improved somewhat.

Joe F.

Dave LaCourse May 28th, 2008 10:19 PM

Penn's rehash
 
On Wed, 28 May 2008 11:44:16 -0700 (PDT), rb608
wrote:

With a year's notice, my odds of making it to X are improved somewhat.


And the first one at the Millheim is on me, but only if you bring and
use the juggling sticks/boxes/thingies.

By then, one of us is gonna be cryin' and whinnin' about who is in the
WH. d'o)

Dave




[email protected] May 29th, 2008 06:06 PM

Penn's rehash
 
On 28 May 2008 13:16:52 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Frank Reid wrote in news:42e7289e-4d73-4f6f-aa5b-
:

On May 27, 6:38*pm, wrote:
Ah...I thought it was a recipe from Frank's bear...

Glad y'all had fun,
R


On Saturday night, we were coming back from Big Fishing Creek on 445
when Tom and Mike had to pull over to find a lost cell phone. A
couple of deer and fawns crossed the road behind us. One fawn, still
unstable on his legs, ended up getting confused by the headlights and
stayed standing in the road. We flagged the cars down and, with Messr
Makela watching out that daddy deer didn't come out of the woods to
kick my ass (in reality, Mike would have just hollared at me and run
like hell), I went over, picked up the fawn and sent it down the
hillside to join mamma and daddy. It brayed like a young lamb and
weighed about 12 lbs.
Whilst purchasing supplies in the gas station a few minutes later, I
mentioned the incident to the young lady behind the counter. She said
I should have kept it. I asked her if it had something to do with
Pennsylvania veal recipes. She didn't understand.
Frank Reid



I can picture your barley stew pot with four legs sticking out the top.


Hmmm...from what I've heard, I can picture four old sneakers stuck to
the bottom...

TC,
R

Mike Makela June 7th, 2008 09:19 PM

Penn's rehash
 

"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
news:msy_j.3060$u7.107@trnddc07...
Well, it's another year and the Penn's Clave, or should I say, the Penn's
Mini-Clave, has ended. We had but a handful of hearty souls for this, the
ninth Penn's Clave. Attendees included: Mike "Handyman" Shaw, Mike Makela,
Frank Reid, Dave Gunnett, Joel Axelrad, Vince Norris,and Bruce Fisher(a
permanent fixture at the Penn's Creek Angler). Conditions were, to say the
least, tough.
As of yesterday, the flow at Penn's still exceeded 700 cfs, so most of the
fishing was on Spring and Big Fishing Creeks.


Mike and I did make it out to Penn's, and fishing thre bottom of the catch
and release section. Another banner day to add to the fishing trip. Not
sure what everyone is talking about with the tough fishing. I think most,
if not all, had several great days on the stream in various locations. I
wish we would have hit Ingleby your last day, the fish were hungry the next
day and I 'm sure they would have been then too.

Spring was fishing very well,


Indeed..

Highlights: On Tuesday, I found out how difficult it is to leave a
midstream spot quickly in a driving rainstorm, when the fly has hooked
itself to one's bootlace(sort of like a marionette act).

LOL wish I had my camera. Mike and I both were drowned rats in a matter
of seconds during the cloudburst, but you took it to an entirely different
level....


..............
And, lastly, I note that I have overlooked the attendance of our youngest
clavers this year, Matt and Dan Makela, who enjoyed the first weekend, and
both caught fish. Dan may have also started working on his Full Reid
technique, leaving the possibility of a Youth Division in the annual Duck
Butt awards.


Although both took on some water, Matthew was actually the winner of the
First Junior Reid award. We were fishing the mouth of Weikert where it hits
Penn's, not heeding my repeated fatherly warnings, started to move too fast
a few feet of water and his foot caught a submerged root on the bottom,
which drove him right into the water. Didn't realize how much water he
took on until we got back to the truck and emptied the waders...

One other note, Bruce (Penn's creek Angler) Fisher just acquired a new
cabin, right on some fine water on Penn's. Hoping he has it ready for next
year, but it is right on the stream. A good location for that area of penn's
(near the Sportsman's Club/Weikert/Cherry Run.

Tom


The Finn



Mike Makela June 7th, 2008 09:23 PM

Penn's rehash
 

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...

This was the year that Penns was unfishable. Really sad.


Penn's was fishable after you left, ya just gotta plan on staying for a
longer period...

Regardless, it was good fishing with you yet another year.

Still going up for Cicada Madenss. Will have a few open beds in the Cherry
Run Cabin Fourth of July week. You are more than welcome.


The Finn




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