And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

A quick quiz on blue collar, Joe Sixpa...er, Lunchbox:

After 32 years on the Ford Assembly Plant line, Joe Lunchbox and the
missus go out every Friday night to the Dew Drop Inn to have a cold one
or two and listen to the jukebox. They are more likely to play:

A) Smells Like Funk
B) The Devil Went Down To Georgia

On Saturday night, they go to the movies. They are more likely to be
more interested in paying 10 bucks each to see:

A) King Lear, starring Gwenyth Paltrow
B) Whatever schlock Susan Sarandon might be in
C) The snackbar commercial repeated for 2 hours

On the way to the movies, they hear two stories on the news. Which is
more likely to upset them:

A) John McCain doesn't know off the top of his head how many houses his
wife's family's business interests, in which he has no role, might own
when suddenly asked
B) The Dems have had to import huge super-stretch limos, which get
about 6 feet to the gallon, from around the country to Denver so they
don't have to ride to their "green" convention to bitch about oil
companies in things like small, plain Fords

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/08/2...ons/index.html

HTH,
R
....and when told that Fergie and Will i am were going to be at the
convention, Biden called McCain to brag about royal support. McCain told
him that she is technically "ex-royalty," and although he did concede
that the future king was a coup, he wasn't sure why the kid cared one
way or the other...

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

yea, that's a laugh....my parking went up 350% this
am in downtown denver.....thanx barrack hussein obama....

what a joke.......



" their green convention "





On Aug 25, 11:05*am, wrote:
A quick quiz on blue collar, Joe Sixpa...er, Lunchbox:

After 32 years on the Ford Assembly Plant line, Joe Lunchbox and the
missus go out every Friday night to the Dew Drop Inn to have a cold one
or two and listen to the jukebox. *They are more likely to play:

A) *Smells Like Funk
B) *The Devil Went Down To Georgia

On Saturday night, they go to the movies. *They are more likely to be
more interested in paying 10 bucks each to see:

A) King Lear, starring Gwenyth Paltrow
B) Whatever schlock Susan Sarandon might be in
C) The snackbar commercial repeated for 2 hours

On the way to the movies, they hear two stories on the news. *Which is
more likely to upset them:

A) *John McCain doesn't know off the top of his head how many houses his
wife's family's business interests, in which he has no role, might own
when suddenly asked
B) *The Dems have had to import huge super-stretch limos, which get
about 6 feet to the gallon, from around the country to Denver so they
don't have to ride to their "green" convention to bitch about oil
companies in things like small, plain Fords

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/08/2...ventions/index...

HTH,
R
...and when told that Fergie and Will i am were going to be at the
convention, Biden called McCain to brag about royal support. McCain told
him that she is technically "ex-royalty," and although he did concede
that the future king was a coup, he wasn't sure why the kid cared one
way or the other...

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

"~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message
...
yea, that's a laugh....my parking went up 350% this
am in downtown denver.....thanx barrack hussein obama....

what a joke.......



" their green convention "

Yeah, I heard that Obama was getting a cut of the parking racket in Denver.

Op



On Aug 25, 11:05 am, wrote:
A quick quiz on blue collar, Joe Sixpa...er, Lunchbox:

After 32 years on the Ford Assembly Plant line, Joe Lunchbox and the
missus go out every Friday night to the Dew Drop Inn to have a cold one
or two and listen to the jukebox. They are more likely to play:

A) Smells Like Funk
B) The Devil Went Down To Georgia

On Saturday night, they go to the movies. They are more likely to be
more interested in paying 10 bucks each to see:

A) King Lear, starring Gwenyth Paltrow
B) Whatever schlock Susan Sarandon might be in
C) The snackbar commercial repeated for 2 hours

On the way to the movies, they hear two stories on the news. Which is
more likely to upset them:

A) John McCain doesn't know off the top of his head how many houses his
wife's family's business interests, in which he has no role, might own
when suddenly asked
B) The Dems have had to import huge super-stretch limos, which get
about 6 feet to the gallon, from around the country to Denver so they
don't have to ride to their "green" convention to bitch about oil
companies in things like small, plain Fords

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/08/2...ventions/index...

HTH,
R
...and when told that Fergie and Will i am were going to be at the
convention, Biden called McCain to brag about royal support. McCain told
him that she is technically "ex-royalty," and although he did concede
that the future king was a coup, he wasn't sure why the kid cared one
way or the other...

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

wrote in message
...

once again, a trivial aside.....man, Rick, you're slipping
(I can just hear Wolfgang's response to that!)......

Frankly, I suspect Joe and wife haven't got the 10 bucks to go to the
movies, since the economy, which has been purely driven by short-term stock
returns since about, say, the election of Ronald Reagan, closed the plant a
few years ago. Since the Bush Jr tax cuts, governments have been forced to
raise pretty much every fee and levy, so those beers may be pinching the
budget a bit, too, so probably, they'll listen to whatever is on the
jukebox, not having the money to drop a buck or two into it. Finally, upon
hearing the two stories, I can guarantee, based upon the local Central PA
newspaper letter feedback, one will really **** them off. And, trust me, my
friend, it ain't the one about SUVs. Get out there amongst the folks, Rick.
Have Settlesworth drive you up to the Upper Midwest, or here, to Central PA
or up in coal country. People are hurting, and they're ****ed. Now, I'm not
saying that people will flock to Obama over that fact(Hillary proved that,
adequately), but I will tell you that, in general, the GOP brand is about as
well-regarded in some of these places as two day old dog ****. People may
take a while to figure it out, but lots now see that they've been had by
Republican fat cats fleecing them. The big get-even is starting. It may not
even peak this year, but it's coming.
And, no matter what end of the economic spectrum one occupies, we had all
better hope that the trend of a polarized ''haves vs have-nots" nation,
growing ever farther apart, ends soon, or the whole freaking lot of us are
doomed. But, then again you've heard this whole rap before from me, right?
Tom

p.s. the above does not discuss, but certainly doesn't dismiss the fact that
lots of folks on both sides of the aisle have contributed to this sorry-ass
situation. It is just that the charge was led by Reagan, and cheerled by
largely
Republicans ever since.......

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:38:52 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .

once again, a trivial aside.....man, Rick, you're slipping
(I can just hear Wolfgang's response to that!)......

Frankly, I suspect Joe and wife haven't got the 10 bucks to go to the
movies, since the economy, which has been purely driven by short-term stock
returns since about, say, the election of Ronald Reagan, closed the plant a
few years ago. Since the Bush Jr tax cuts, governments have been forced to
raise pretty much every fee and levy, so those beers may be pinching the
budget a bit, too, so probably, they'll listen to whatever is on the
jukebox, not having the money to drop a buck or two into it. Finally, upon
hearing the two stories, I can guarantee, based upon the local Central PA
newspaper letter feedback, one will really **** them off. And, trust me, my
friend, it ain't the one about SUVs. Get out there amongst the folks, Rick.

You ever been to George County, MS? It's pretty hard to get more
amongst the folks than there - you got Lucedale in the east and Benndale
in the west, and the entire middle is, well, George County, MS...of
course, so is the east and the west...

Have Settlesworth drive you up to the Upper Midwest, or here, to Central PA
or up in coal country. People are hurting, and they're ****ed. Now, I'm not
saying that people will flock to Obama over that fact(Hillary proved that,
adequately), but I will tell you that, in general, the GOP brand is about as
well-regarded in some of these places as two day old dog ****. People may
take a while to figure it out, but lots now see that they've been had by
Republican fat cats fleecing them. The big get-even is starting. It may not
even peak this year, but it's coming.
And, no matter what end of the economic spectrum one occupies, we had all
better hope that the trend of a polarized ''haves vs have-nots" nation,
growing ever farther apart, ends soon, or the whole freaking lot of us are
doomed. But, then again you've heard this whole rap before from me, right?
Tom

p.s. the above does not discuss, but certainly doesn't dismiss the fact that
lots of folks on both sides of the aisle have contributed to this sorry-ass
situation. It is just that the charge was led by Reagan, and cheerled by
largely
Republicans ever since.......

I disagree with a lot of the above insofar as it'll all get laid
(solely) on the GOP. I think most people don't really _know_ who
"fleeced them" (and really, most such folks were not actually fleeced in
the least, or if they were, they willingly and greedily participated in
causing their own problems - for example, folks who went out and bought
property they should have never bought, much less been allowed to
finance), but they blame it on politicians in general. Look to
Congress' approval rating versus Bush's - Bush ain't winning any
popularity contests, but compared to Congress, he's doing pretty well.

IAC, what I think you're seeing is more of a "who's the least bad"
rather than "who's the better choice." And frankly, I don't see either
Obama or McCain as the clear choice for "Joe Sixpack," which ever way
they feel.

TC,
R

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

wrote in message
...
You ever been to George County, MS? It's pretty hard to get more
amongst the folks than there - you got Lucedale in the east and Benndale
in the west, and the entire middle is, well, George County, MS...of
course, so is the east and the west...

ok, I think I see a point coming here.....

I disagree with a lot of the above insofar as it'll all get laid
(solely) on the GOP. I think most people don't really _know_ who
"fleeced them" (and really, most such folks were not actually fleeced in
the least, or if they were, they willingly and greedily participated in
causing their own problems - for example, folks who went out and bought
property they should have never bought, much less been allowed to
finance), but they blame it on politicians in general. Look to
Congress' approval rating versus Bush's - Bush ain't winning any
popularity contests, but compared to Congress, he's doing pretty well.

IAC, what I think you're seeing is more of a "who's the least bad"
rather than "who's the better choice." And frankly, I don't see either
Obama or McCain as the clear choice for "Joe Sixpack," which ever way
they feel.

As is often the case, we can easily agree to disagree, but I see that you
aren't really arguing my key point. Which is:
If you think the working public, as a whole, doesn't react MUCH more
viscerally to John McCain losing track of his houses, compared to some
esoteric BS about convention transportation, you have lost touch. As I've
stated, consistently, one of the things that frightens me, looking at the
longer view, is an America pulling apart rich from poor, with no gradation.
Such situations, historically, lead to either repression or revolution, and
I wish neither on my descendants.
For me, the questions this election are simple:
1.Can Obama pull together the best and brightest in the nation to attack a
multitude of problems we face, and undo a host of problems created in the
past 8 years(mainly due to a disdain by Republicans for intelligence, in
deference to ideologic purity)?
2. Can Obama use the force of his personality to pull the nation together,
post-election, to develop consensus on the host of common interests held in
the nation, and move forward as a nation?
3. Does Obama truly understand the problems, and show the willingness to
take advice in order to solve them(that is what a true Executive does, is it
not?)?

my answer to all the above is yes. I am convinced of that.
Could John McCain do the same? Perhaps, but I have grave doubts. His age
leaves him woefully out of touch with anything close to cutting edge
thought. His focus on the military point of view leaves him myopic regarding
most other social and economic matters(party, he admits as much). His
temperment has, at times, been shown to be violently confrontational, when
challenged. Finally, to secure his nomination, he has sold out to some of
the same folks that brought us this divisive sack o **** we call US
politics, at present. Perhaps, Obama's key strength, for me at least, is
that he took down one of the other divisive centers(the Clinton camp), and
owes the hard right nor the traditional Dem elite very little.
.....as a friend of mine says, YMMV,
Tom

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:38:52 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:


or up in coal country. People are hurting, and they're ****ed. Now, I'm not
saying that people will flock to Obama over that fact(Hillary proved that,
adequately), but I will tell you that, in general, the GOP brand is about as
well-regarded in some of these places as two day old dog ****.


From CNN:

"Poll: Race for White House tied" (post-Biden)

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/...oll/index.html

particularly:

"Sixty-six percent of Clinton supporters -- registered Democrats who
want Clinton as the nominee -- are now backing Obama. That's down from
75 percent in the end of June. Twenty-seven percent of them now say
they'll support McCain, up from 16 percent in late June."

Look, if Darth, Rice, etc., were running, the whole "Bush's Third
Term"/"It's the GOP's fault!" shtick might have more traction than it
appears to have, but they aren't and it is looking like the Dems'
attempt to convince people otherwise isn't working as well as they might
like.

TC,
R

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Aug 25, 1:12*pm, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote:
yea, that's a laugh....my parking went up 350% this
am in downtown denver.....thanx barrack hussein obama....

what a joke.......


Hey, what happened to Bill, I thought everything was his fault
(I figured, with all the practice you folks have had, you'd be able
to keep your mythologies straight. Or is that scapegoats?).

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Aug 25, 6:57*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
....... As I've
stated, consistently, one of the things that frightens me, looking at the
longer view, is an America pulling apart rich from poor, with no gradation.

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

wrote in message
...


time will tell, time will tell........
Tom

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:20:50 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

the relatively small
number of the rich, the relatively small number of upper-middle income
professionals, and the mass of the rest, hanging on with little or no
margin between them and economic disaster.

What a bunch of redistribute-the-wealth-caca. Yes, there are the
rich, and there are the upper middle class, and the middle class, and
yes, the poor. I have worked in a food pantry in an economically
depressed city (Lowell, MA) for five years and I have not seen any
increase in clients in that time. In fact, it is the same people,
week after week after week. New ones come in, but they soon disappear
because they have found jobs. Unemployment rates are about the same
now as they were during the Clinton years, as is the inflation and
interest rates.

I give enough of my time, talents and treasures to this country.
Obama wants more? Well, if he gets a tax increase, I hope the hell
you are around so I can say "I told you so" when the bottom falls out.

Redistrubute the wealth, my ass. Go and live in China, Russia, or
Cuba if you want that ****. See how fast you like the present system.

Fool.


--
Dave

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:20:50 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Aug 25, 6:57*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
....... As I've
stated, consistently, one of the things that frightens me, looking at the
longer view, is an America pulling apart rich from poor, with no gradation.
Such situations, historically, lead to either repression or revolution, and
I wish neither on my descendants. .....


Bush's tenure has, from early on, reminded me of the traditional
South American Caudillo "presidency" with lots of bluster, a weakened
currency, a weakened economy, military spending grossly
disporportionate to the wealth of the nation, a refusal (inability?)
to stand up to powerful economic factions, and a population
increasingly divided into three economic strata: the relatively small
number of the rich, the relatively small number of upper-middle income
professionals, and the mass of the rest, hanging on with little or no
margin between them and economic disaster.

Not really. While the site below might not be, um, of your tastes, the
issues and the numbers/data presented in this article are worth at least
considering:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Taxes/bg1791.cfm

Granted, the US might be ranked below your traditional poverty-stricken
hellholes of the world...like Bermuda, the Caymans, Liechtenstein,
Luxembourg and Switzerland...but even so, the World Bank ranks the US
pretty high:

http://siteresources.worldbank.org/D...rces/GNIPC.pdf

And as an aside:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...-in-Kenya.html

Of course, his situation isn't Obama's fault, but I'd say that if Obama
can't (or won't) help his family first, it's pretty tough to feel secure
in his ability (or willingness) to help strangers...like the, um, "the
mass of the rest, hanging on with little or no margin between them and
economic disaster" in the good ol' US of A. And no, I don't see anyone
of the GOP honchos rushing to his brother's aid, either.

TC,
R

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Aug 25, 8:14*pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:

.... What a bunch of redistribute-the-wealth-caca. .....

It *is* happening, like it or not: it's a measured phenomenon, tho
like
global warning some factions can pretend that it's not.*

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:08:09 -0700, rw
wrote:

wrote:
On Aug 25, 8:14 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:

.... What a bunch of redistribute-the-wealth-caca. .....


It *is* happening, like it or not: it's a measured phenomenon, tho
like
global warning some factions can pretend that it's not.

During the Bush administration median income has actually declined. This
has never before happened since the government started keeping records.

“There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class,
that’s making war, and we’re winning.”

- Warren Buffet

Ah, your new hero...

IAC, if his tax/wealth redistribution ideas are so friggin' wonderful,
why

A) did he stoop so low as to make so much money personally - why didn't
he "share the wealth" as it were to the lowest-level employees of all
the myriad businesses under BH, and,
B) since he has made so much scratch, but now bleats on about how wrong
it is or some such nonsense, why not just give the vast bulk of it to
the IRS, and encourage friends like Gates to do the same, if he thinks
tax dollars is money well-spent?

And why haven't you given done likewise?

Uh-huh...yeah, right.

HTH,
R

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Aug 25, 10:05*am, wrote:

Oh yeah? Well McCain eats poopy poop, is a communixt child molester,
whips his housekeeper, employs stunt donkeys to work on the sabbath,
calls his wife a c**t, haunts truck stop restrooms and European train
stations, and picks his own nose.

Richard, your crowd of incompetents drove this country right into the
ditch. In light of all the stealing, espionnage, major ****-ups,
waste, corruption, jerk water incompetence etc etc, where in the hell
do you get off even admitting to a political opinion these days, much
less trying to influence others? Seriously, you have zip credibility
in this area and (CLUE) this nonsense detracts from the creditability
you do have in some other areas.

Dave
Death to Traitors

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On 26-Aug-2008, wrote:

Oh yeah? Well McCain eats poopy poop, is a communixt child molester,
whips his housekeeper, employs stunt donkeys to work on the sabbath,
calls his wife a c**t, haunts truck stop restrooms and European train
stations, and picks his own nose.

Richard, your crowd of incompetents drove this country right into the
ditch. In light of all the stealing, espionnage, major ****-ups,
waste, corruption, jerk water incompetence etc etc, where in the hell
do you get off even admitting to a political opinion these days, much
less trying to influence others? Seriously, you have zip credibility
in this area and (CLUE) this nonsense detracts from the creditability
you do have in some other areas.

Dave
Death to Traitors

Death to traitors!
Venceremos!

Fred

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Aug 27, 1:56*pm, "Fred" wrote:

Death to traitors!
Venceremos!


Badges? BADGES!?? We don' need no steenkin' badges!!

--riverman

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Aug 27, 7:56*am, "Fred" wrote:
On 26-Aug-2008, wrote:
Oh yeah? Well McCain eats poopy poop, is a communixt child molester,
whips his housekeeper, employs stunt donkeys to work on the sabbath,
calls his wife a c**t, haunts truck stop restrooms and European train
stations, and picks his own nose.

Richard, your crowd of incompetents drove this country right into the
ditch. In light of all the stealing, espionnage, major ****-ups,
waste, corruption, jerk water incompetence etc etc, where in the hell
do you get off even admitting to a political opinion these days, much
less trying to influence others? Seriously, you have zip credibility
in this area and (CLUE) this nonsense detracts from the creditability
you do have in some other areas.

Dave
Death to Traitors

Death to traitors!
Venceremos!

Fred

Oh well, up the antis!
Rhinoceros!

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Aug 27, 7:56*am, "Fred" wrote:

Venceremos!

Fred

Indeed, I rather fear you will prevail.

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Aug 26, 10:56*pm, "Fred" wrote:
(Snipped)

Contra agresión, Cuba responde!
Che! Che! Che! Che! Che! Che! Che! Che! Che! Che! Che! Che!
(Y la Cubana dice . . . )
Andale la brigada!
Venceremos!
Transmitiendo desde Cuba, Territorio libre en América.

Comandante Dave

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On Aug 27, 8:14*am, wrote:
On Aug 26, 10:56*pm, "Fred" wrote:
(Snipped)

Contra agresión, Cuba responde!
Che! Che! Che! Che! Che! Che! Che! Che! Che! Che! Che! Che!
(Y la Cubana dice . . . )
Andale la brigada!
Venceremos!
Transmitiendo desde Cuba, Territorio libre en América.

Comandante Dave

**** me gently, and you call me crazy!

Here is some instruction in internet diagnostics for you;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...er/7583219.stm

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Aug 26, 11:23*pm, wrote:

**** me gently, and you call me crazy!

Here is some instruction in internet diagnostics for you;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...er/7583219.stm

Mike, get one thing straight: Under no circumstances do I want to ****
you. I am strictly straight. I know you English guys have some
different ideas about such things, and your palling around with
Germans all these years can't possibly be healthy. I suggest you need
to check out some site with a name like "English******dude.com" or
some such.

Dave

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Aug 27, 8:40*am, wrote:
On Aug 26, 11:23*pm, wrote:

**** me gently, and you call me crazy!

Here is some instruction in internet diagnostics for you;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...er/7583219.stm

Mike, get one thing straight: Under no circumstances do I want to ****
you. I am strictly straight. I know you English guys have some
different ideas about such things, and your palling around with
Germans all these years can't possibly be healthy. *I suggest you need
to check out some site with a name like *"English******dude.com" or
some such.

Dave

Hahhahahha..........seems your English idioms are about on a par with
your remote diagnostics;

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...%202% 20x%204

Don´t see what Germans have to do with it at all, but doubtless
somewhere in the cramped recesses of your mind, ( cramped, because it
´s full of ****), you have some weird and most likely xenophobic
reason for mentioning them.

Train stations next is it?

You might at least try to be original.

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Aug 26, 11:49*pm, wrote:

Your welcome Mike. I thought you might find what you were looking for
on ******dude. If that doesn't work for you say the word and we could
take up a collection and send you to a week at the Ramrod Ranch in
Elko.

Dave

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Aug 27, 8:58*am, wrote:
On Aug 26, 11:49*pm, wrote:

Your welcome Mike. I thought you might find what you were looking for
on ******dude. If that doesn't work for you say the word and we could
take up a collection and send you to a week at the Ramrod Ranch in
Elko.

Dave

You´re not just an idiot it seems, but ignorant and grammatically
challenged to boot. A most unfortunate combination. How come you know
these websites and ranches so well anyway?

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Aug 27, 9:09*am, wrote:
On Aug 27, 8:58*am, wrote:

On Aug 26, 11:49*pm, wrote:

Your welcome Mike. I thought you might find what you were looking for
on ******dude. If that doesn't work for you say the word and we could
take up a collection and send you to a week at the Ramrod Ranch in
Elko.

Dave

You´re not just an idiot it seems, but ignorant and grammatically
challenged to boot. A most unfortunate combination. How come you know
these websites and ranches so well anyway?

Also, how come when you dumbos drop all pretense and start slinging
pure insults, ( or what you fondly imagine are such), that it is
suddenly "we"? Hoping for a bit of solidarity form the other dumbos
are you?

Absolutely bloody pathetic.

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

Here's the deal Mike: You have now unequivocally said you do not use
aliases in posting to ROFF. If that is a fact, you are less likely to
be moving into multiple personality disorder. If it is not fact, what
appears to be your extensive use of aliases, depression, coupled with
some of the other **** you have engaged in, would strongly suggest you
are what the shrinks refer to in scientific terms as a whack-job.
Seriously, I think the right term is clinically depressed. And if then
you still cannot own these other personas, I will probably just ignore
you as a lost cause.

I'm patient. The truth will probably come out. Meanwhile I suggest you
post the suicide prevention hot line number next to your phone. Just
on the off chance I'm right. And just maybe you ought to talk to some
local doctor/shrink about your experiences with this newsgroup. What
could it hurt?

Dave
Fat ****ing Chance

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

wrote in message
...
Here's the deal Mike: You have now unequivocally said you do not use
aliases in posting to ROFF. If that is a fact, you are less likely to
be moving into multiple personality disorder. If it is not fact, what
appears to be your extensive use of aliases, depression, coupled with
some of the other **** you have engaged in, would strongly suggest you
are what the shrinks refer to in scientific terms as a whack-job.
Seriously, I think the right term is clinically depressed. And if then
you still cannot own these other personas, I will probably just ignore
you as a lost cause.

I'm patient. The truth will probably come out. Meanwhile I suggest you
post the suicide prevention hot line number next to your phone. Just
on the off chance I'm right. And just maybe you ought to talk to some
local doctor/shrink about your experiences with this newsgroup. What
could it hurt?

Whatever mikie's problems, one suspects that (much of the time, anyway) he
knows who he's talking to here.

Do you?

Dave
Fat ****ing Chance

Indeed.

Wolfgang

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Aug 27, 12:52*pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:

Whatever mikie's problems, one suspects that (much of the time, anyway) he
knows who he's talking to here.

Do you?

Dave
Fat ****ing Chance

Indeed.

Wolfgang

Probably not. I sometimes wonder. The folks Ive met seem to fit the
normal curve for the most part. I am curious about your meaning.

Dave

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Aug 27, 1:55*pm, "Russell D." wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 27, 12:52 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:

Whatever mikie's problems, one suspects that (much of the time, anyway) he
knows who he's talking to here.

Do you?

Dave
Fat ****ing Chance
Indeed.

Wolfgang

Probably not. I sometimes wonder. The folks Ive met seem to fit the
normal curve for the most part. I am curious about your meaning.

Dave

Dave,

You addressed Mike but replied to Jeff, er . . . jeff.

Russell- Hide quoted text -

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Yep, you are right. Sorry Jeff. Sorry folk.

Dr. Dave

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Aug 27, 9:49*pm, wrote:
Here's the deal Mike: You have now unequivocally said you do not use
aliases in posting to ROFF. If that is a fact, you are less likely to
be moving into multiple personality disorder. If it is not fact, what
appears to be your extensive use of aliases, depression, coupled with
some of the other **** you have engaged in, would strongly suggest you
are what the shrinks refer to in scientific terms as a whack-job.
Seriously, I think the right term is clinically depressed. And if then
you still cannot own these other personas, I will probably just ignore
you as a lost cause.

I'm patient. The truth will probably come out. Meanwhile I suggest you
post the suicide prevention hot line number next to your phone. Just
on the off chance I'm right. And just maybe you ought to talk to some
local doctor/shrink about your experiences with this newsgroup. What
could it hurt?

Dave
Fat ****ing Chance

There is no "deal" dumbo, you are just an idiot posting idiotic ****
to a fishing newsgroup, because you can, and because you are an idiot.

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Aug 26, 2:28*pm, wrote:
......
B) since he has made so much scratch, but now bleats on about how wrong
it is or some such nonsense, why not just give the vast bulk of it to
the IRS, and encourage friends like Gates to do the same, if he thinks
tax dollars is money well-spent? *

And why haven't you given done likewise?

Uh-huh...yeah, right.


The same old tired neo response, I would have written it for you but I
didn't want to deny you your turn. They way I figure it I'm already
paying more fed tax than you, so I really don't think that you have a
leg to stand on (and it was wooden to begin with). I have no
objection to paying taxes and I know that tax rateswill have to be be
increased, because Bush's cowardly practice of spending without
collecting is turning our country into an economic disaster. And if
they are raised I will willingly pay the increase because *someone*
will at some time have to pay for the incredible irresponsibility of
the past 7 years, even though I am sure that all sorts of neo Patriots
will be running to their lawyers and their lobbyists to make sure that
they don't pay any of it.

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:13:03 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Aug 26, 2:28*pm, wrote:
......
B) since he has made so much scratch, but now bleats on about how wrong
it is or some such nonsense, why not just give the vast bulk of it to
the IRS, and encourage friends like Gates to do the same, if he thinks
tax dollars is money well-spent? *

And why haven't you given done likewise?

Uh-huh...yeah, right.


The same old tired neo response, I would have written it for you but I
didn't want to deny you your turn. They way I figure it I'm already
paying more fed tax than you,

Um, you figured, did ya? OK, I gotta hear the ration...al...did you
have to take your shoes off and unzip, or did you just need your
fingers?

so I really don't think that you have a
leg to stand on (and it was wooden to begin with). I have no
objection to paying taxes and I know that tax rateswill have to be be
increased, because Bush's cowardly practice of spending without
collecting is turning our country into an economic disaster. And if
they are raised I will willingly pay the increase because *someone*
will at some time have to pay for the incredible irresponsibility of
the past 7 years, even though I am sure that all sorts of neo Patriots
will be running to their lawyers and their lobbyists to make sure that
they don't pay any of it.

Um, OK.So, what has Obama done that has you convinced he's just the
ginchiest, there, Gidget?

And there it is,
R
....and by-the-by: Uh-huh...yeah, right...

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Aug 27, 9:04*pm, wrote:
Um, OK.So, what has Obama done that has you convinced he's just the
ginchiest, there, Gidget?

And there it is,
R


Obama has said its time to fix the health-care system, and offered a
plan that American industry actually likes.
Obama has said its time to focus on getting the terrorists, and has
said how he thinks we should go about it.
Obama has said its time to get out of Iraq, which he was 100% right
about from the beginning when just about everybody was drunk with war
fever. Even our Iraqi allies want us out, soon.
Obama has said its time to be thinking about Americans and giving
American families and the middle class a few more of those fat assed
tax breaks you are in love with. He has also said its time for the
rich non-tax payers and evaders to start paying some room and board.
Obama has said its time to get serious about breaking our slavery to
the oil sheiks and cartels and push ahead with more home grown energy.
And he has offered a specific plan that much of industry favors.
Obama has pledged to work to regain our place in the World by using
our heads more than reckless blunt force and our soldier's lives.

What does your team have to say about all the waste, corruption,
incompetence, deficits and failures of the last 6 years other than
"the Clinton's made us do it"? Fact is your side is morally and
intellectually bankrupt this time.

Dave

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:38:04 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Aug 27, 9:04*pm, wrote:
Um, OK.So, what has Obama done that has you convinced he's just the
ginchiest, there, Gidget?

And there it is,
R


Obama has said its time to fix the health-care system, and offered a
plan that American industry actually likes.
Obama has said its time to focus on getting the terrorists, and has
said how he thinks we should go about it.
Obama has said its time to get out of Iraq, which he was 100% right
about from the beginning when just about everybody was drunk with war
fever. Even our Iraqi allies want us out, soon.
Obama has said its time to be thinking about Americans and giving
American families and the middle class a few more of those fat assed
tax breaks you are in love with. He has also said its time for the
rich non-tax payers and evaders to start paying some room and board.
Obama has said its time to get serious about breaking our slavery to
the oil sheiks and cartels and push ahead with more home grown energy.
And he has offered a specific plan that much of industry favors.
Obama has pledged to work to regain our place in the World by using
our heads more than reckless blunt force and our soldier's lives.

Obama has admitted that the real reason he wants to be Prez is because
he wants the cool windbreaker.
Obama has said it's time for the US to go entirely Roman Catholic and
that those who refuse will be sent to Siberia. Pat Robertson agrees.
Obama has said that when he is Prez, he will mandate that make Twinkies
and Dr. Pepper are the only food and drink allowed in the US. Coke has
agreed to go out of business.

Hey, as long as we're makin' **** up...

But here's a real thing:

Obama has said, pledged, and promised, courtesy of Axelrod, et al, a
whole ****in' bunch. OTOH, thus far in his life, Obama has _done_ very,
very little of real note, and of what little he has done, much of it has
involved sucking the public tit or attempting to move on up to get a
bigger mouthful.

Have you read his "blueprint?" It promises to solve every problem from
world peace to hangnails and do it by reducing taxes on "the middle
class" and raising it for "the rich" and "big oil." It's pure
ridiculous bull****.

What does your team have to say about all the waste, corruption,
incompetence, deficits and failures of the last 6 years other than
"the Clinton's made us do it"? Fact is your side is morally and
intellectually bankrupt this time.

My team? My side? And what team or side would that be?

Sheesh,
R

Dave

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

On Aug 28, 5:57*am, wrote:

My team? *My side? *And what team or side would that be?

Sheesh,
R

Oh I don't know, how about the "Run up a big deficit and duck out
again team" ?
How about that old seat pee-er specialty, "Leave a big mess so the
other guy has to clean it up" team?
Or maybe the "Let the other guy pay my fair share" team?
Maybe the "Hooray for me, screw you" team?

Take your pick.

Sheesh, Sheesh, and more Scheesh

Dave
Why do they hate the country that has given them so much?

And speaking of the, um, "arts"...
 

To my poll-loving pal in the Deep South:

here's a few to mull over:
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/

whilst digesting those, consider this......my take, and it's limited to what
I am seeing on the ground in PA, is that polls are consistently
under-estimating Obama voters by close to 6%, on average. Due to a strong
group of younger voters, with no land line or listed phones, I don't know if
any of these pollsters have the survey demographics set up right. Now,
RDean, as you know, I have always been leery of polls for much beyond
trending data, so I am hopeful, but hardly cocky over the whole
matter.
Tom