New Orleans, Monday night....
 

Any bets? Will it hit? Will David Paulison do "a heckuva job"...?

Stay tuned.

--riverman

New Orleans, Monday night....
 

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:18:01 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote:

Any bets?

You're on. How much?

Will it hit?

No.


Ball's in your court,
R

Will David Paulison do "a heckuva job"...?

Stay tuned.

--riverman

New Orleans, Monday night....
 

On Aug 28, 4:18*am, riverman wrote:
Any bets? Will it hit? Will David Paulison do "a heckuva job"...?

Stay tuned.

Well, I'm looking for Gustav to nail the oil fields in the Gulf (about
a 100 miles west of New Orleans) head on and then come up to Nebraska
as a disapated low for some brats, saurkraut and beer (washing my
fancy grass seed down to Missouri). Back at the ranch, Hanna, now
called TD08 is gonna take Florida by storm, crushing Miami in a
vise.
Fill up your gas cans now, sit back and watch how the administration
handles a disaster in a city that the right actually cares about.
Frank Reid
You heard it here first

New Orleans, Monday night....
 

On Aug 28, 8:17*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:18:01 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote:

Any bets?

You're on. *How much?

Will it hit?

No.

Ball's in your court,
R


And considering how much the predicted path has shifted west in the
last few hours, I withdraw my bet. (sheepish grin)

Still, it could be worse. I could have won....

--riverman

New Orleans, Monday night....
 

On Aug 28, 9:14*pm, riverman wrote:
On Aug 28, 8:17*pm, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:18:01 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote:

Any bets?

You're on. *How much?

Will it hit?

No.

Ball's in your court,
R

And considering how much the predicted path has shifted west in the
last few hours, I withdraw my bet. (sheepish grin)

Still, it could be worse. I could have won....

--riverman

Shoulda hung in there for the bet, but in any case, the NOAA website
only puts a 50% prob of a storm surge of 5+ feet in NO.

In any case, here's a webcam on Bourbon St.
http://www.tropicalisle.com/webcam.html

--riverman

New Orleans, Monday night....
 

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 05:13:05 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote:

On Aug 28, 9:14*pm, riverman wrote:
On Aug 28, 8:17*pm, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:18:01 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote:

Any bets?

You're on. *How much?

Will it hit?

No.

Ball's in your court,
R

And considering how much the predicted path has shifted west in the
last few hours, I withdraw my bet. (sheepish grin)

Still, it could be worse. I could have won....

--riverman

Shoulda hung in there for the bet,

And you would have lost - it's essentially a sucker bet. It is all but
impossible for a hurricane to hit at New Orleans - it would have to come
up the Mississippi or weave up through the Rigolets, etc., into
Pontchartrain and suddenly hook down. Even Houma really isn't accurate
(it's inland), but it's more readily identifiable than "'bout out dere
whe' Sammy Mitot and Paul Broussard...no, no, no, da son, not da daddy -
he still mad to Sammy...caught all dem specs last week" to y'all folks
that don't know Sammy and Paul...or his daddy...

but in any case, the NOAA website only puts a 50% prob of a storm
surge of 5+ feet in NO.

There is 0% chance of such a thing. Where did you see this? That's
just ridiculous, crazy, and dangerous information to put out (them, not
you, as you'd have no way of knowing whether it was accurate).

In any case, here's a webcam on Bourbon St.
http://www.tropicalisle.com/webcam.html

And there are several more at nola.com (about the best starting point
for NO info, including the Times-Picayune. A lot of the city has power
out right now, so only some of the cams are working. But as of right
now, the Quarter/Vieux Carre is OK, as is the Garden District, Uptown,
and up St. Charles.

--riverman

TC,
R

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New Orleans, Monday night....
 

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:07:36 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
...
And there are several more at nola.com (about the best starting point
for NO info, including the Times-Picayune. A lot of the city has power
out right now, so only some of the cams are working. But as of right
now, the Quarter/Vieux Carre is OK, as is the Garden District, Uptown,
and up St. Charles.

Good to hear it. We hope your Mom is OK and your place
weathers the storm. Kristine was asking about you guys
last night.

Actually, we shut down her house and our place, and she came over to our
place in MS. From what I've seen of the area (from NO to MS), there is
little real damage and thankfully, the chances of there being any is
dropping literally by the minute. Thank Kristine, and K and Tasha say
howdy to all.

TC,
R

New Orleans, Monday night....
 

On Sep 1, 10:58*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 05:13:05 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote:

Shoulda hung in there for the bet,

And you would have lost - it's essentially a sucker bet. *It is all but
impossible for a hurricane to hit at New Orleans - it would have to come
up the Mississippi or weave up through the Rigolets, etc., into
Pontchartrain and suddenly hook down. *

How's that? Are you saying that a storm would have weakened to below
Cat 1 levels by the time it had moved that far inland? I can't imagine
a hurricane moving 'up the Mississippi'...that would be like saying
'drive a cadillac through the eye of a needle'.


but in any case, the NOAA website only puts a 50% prob of a storm
surge of 5+ feet in NO.

There is 0% chance of such a thing. * Where did you see this? *That's
just ridiculous, crazy, and dangerous information to put out (them, not
you, as you'd have no way of knowing whether it was accurate).


http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/psurgegraphics_at2.shtml

This link is time-ended, as its a real-time feed. You can zoom in with
your mouse. As far as accuracy, I tend to trust the forecasters at
NOAA more than Geraldo or the average newscast weatherman.

Again, you don't usually make statements without real supporting
evidence: why would it be impossible for a storm surge to reach NO?

--riverman

New Orleans, Monday night....
 

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 09:12:11 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote:

On Sep 1, 10:58*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 05:13:05 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote:

Shoulda hung in there for the bet,

And you would have lost - it's essentially a sucker bet. *It is all but
impossible for a hurricane to hit at New Orleans - it would have to come
up the Mississippi or weave up through the Rigolets, etc., into
Pontchartrain and suddenly hook down. *

How's that? Are you saying that a storm would have weakened to below
Cat 1 levels by the time it had moved that far inland? I can't imagine
a hurricane moving 'up the Mississippi'...that would be like saying
'drive a cadillac through the eye of a needle'.

Ah...if you meant a hurricane passing over NO, sure, that's possible,
but when most folks say "hit" in hurricane areas, they mean "make
official landfall." As such, for NO to be "hit," the two scenarios I
mentioned are the only ways for it to occur. And you are correct in
that it would extremely unlikely (really, just about, but absolutely,
impossible) for a hurricane's official position to follow the river. It
would be just as unlikely for it to come through the Rigolets, too. But
if by "hit" you simply mean "have some form of weather influenced by a
hurricane," then most of the southern US is "hit" by any hurricane in
the Gulf.


but in any case, the NOAA website only puts a 50% prob of a storm
surge of 5+ feet in NO.

There is 0% chance of such a thing. * Where did you see this? *That's
just ridiculous, crazy, and dangerous information to put out (them, not
you, as you'd have no way of knowing whether it was accurate).


http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/psurgegraphics_at2.shtml

This link is time-ended, as its a real-time feed. You can zoom in with
your mouse. As far as accuracy, I tend to trust the forecasters at
NOAA more than Geraldo or the average newscast weatherman.

Ah. When I went, most of NO what I assume was the 0% chance (the "base"
color) with the river having a higher chance. But even Katrina didn't
put 5'-plus feet in all of NO, nor have I ever seen a storm that would.
Again, we may be talking a difference in terminology here. If you mean
5' or more of water anywhere within the city limits, then sure - heck,
some heavy rainstorms probably do that. There are areas on the MS coast
that had that, too, but I've not heard any reports of any area of homes
or businesses in NO or even St. Bernard Parish being what most would
call "flooded."

Again, you don't usually make statements without real supporting
evidence: why would it be impossible for a storm surge to reach NO?

I didn't say it would be impossible, just that it certainly didn't
appear to be a 50% (or even a .05% chance) of NO getting 5-plus feet of
surge with this. While I wouldn't have wanted to be in Houma in a tent,
this wasn't much as serious hurricanes go, and when compared to Katrina,
it was little more than a summer shower. For example, for those
following this on the news, if you hear mention of "Diamondhead"
(essentially, Bay St. Louis, MS), it had about 32 feet of surge during
Katrina. I've heard it had about 6 feet with Gustav.

TC,
R

--riverman

New Orleans, Monday night....
 

wrote in message
...

...It is all but
impossible for a hurricane to hit at New Orleans - it would have to come
up the Mississippi or weave up through the Rigolets, etc., into
Pontchartrain and suddenly hook down....

See, that's what we like, authoritative categorical statements absolutely
bereft of anything that bears even a slight family resemblance to sense.

Someday, it might be kind of fun to read some of your thoughts on
politics.....or food.....or fishing.....or social issues.....or.....

Wolfgang
and some of you boys STILL think this toy has something to say. :)

New Orleans, Monday night....
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...
See, that's what we like, authoritative categorical statements absolutely
bereft of anything that bears even a slight family resemblance to sense.

I think I understood what he said, that it is damned near impossible for a
hurricane to make landfall at the city of New Orleans. What is less
comprehensible is why an adult would badmouth a sensible statement with the
above, when said adult clearly has no clue what HE is talking about in this
case.
pot, kettle, black, IOW,
Tom

New Orleans, Monday night....
 

"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...
See, that's what we like, authoritative categorical statements absolutely
bereft of anything that bears even a slight family resemblance to sense.

I think I understood what he said, that it is damned near impossible for a
hurricane to make landfall at the city of New Orleans.

Well, if he (and you) are suggesting that a hurricane cannot hit New Orleans
without bumping into something else first, like a bullet couldn't possibly
penrtrate his chest without first doing some damage to his shirt, then yeah,
you're both right. Otherwise, it's an extraodinarily idiotic position even
for dicklet. And your support for this proposition and its filthy proponent
is just the latest in a distressing pattern that's been going on for a
pretty long time now.

What is less comprehensible is why an adult would badmouth a sensible
statement with the above, when said adult clearly has no clue what HE is
talking about in this case.

Sensible statement? Ah, now you've switched tracks and are referring to
something that didn't appear on my monitor.

pot, kettle, black, IOW,
Tom

So, does your recently announced upcoming change of residence have anything
at all to do with your career change? If so, I'd offer that defending
dicklet on a professional basis might be better accomplished by moving
directly to southern Mississippi rather than sneaking up on it a bit at a
time over the course of several years.

Wolfgang

New Orleans, Monday night....
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

Well, if he (and you) are suggesting that a hurricane cannot hit New
Orleans without bumping into something else first, like a bullet couldn't
possibly penrtrate his chest without first doing some damage to his shirt,
then yeah, you're both right. Otherwise, it's an extraodinarily idiotic
position even for dicklet. And your support for this proposition and its
filthy proponent is just the latest in a distressing pattern that's been
going on for a pretty long time now.


that's precisely how I read what he was saying, and yes, it is a reasonable
statement. Speaking of distressing, you might want to get off the high horse
and figure out why hatred is ok for one but condemnable in others, because I
see no real difference.

So, does your recently announced upcoming change of residence have
anything at all to do with your career change? If so, I'd offer that
defending dicklet on a professional basis might be better accomplished by
moving directly to southern Mississippi rather than sneaking up on it a
bit at a time over the course of several years.

speaking of 'sans a clue' you haven't the ****ing slightest idea of the
'whys' behind my upcoming move. Speculation about the matter actually comes
off as childish and condescending, a schtick you seem to have perfected,
Wolfie(or at least, are trying to....for the life of me, I can't fathom why.
Angry and pointless are just two useless items in your repertoire, you might
do well to supress the urge to flaunt them). Hell, Rick needs(and I'm sure
doesn't require) no defense from me, and frankly, whenever we feel like
visiting, I can pop for airfare, even if I lived in, say, Wisconsin. As for
Missisippi, I wouldn't live there on a freaking dare, nor even
N'Orleans....but, as spots to visit, they're just fine(in the fall and
winter).
Tom
.......you still don't get the idea that one can disagree with others without
creating enemies of them, do you??

New Orleans, Monday night....
 

"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

Well, if he (and you) are suggesting that a hurricane cannot hit New
Orleans without bumping into something else first, like a bullet couldn't
possibly penrtrate his chest without first doing some damage to his
shirt, then yeah, you're both right. Otherwise, it's an extraodinarily
idiotic position even for dicklet. And your support for this proposition
and its filthy proponent is just the latest in a distressing pattern
that's been going on for a pretty long time now.


that's precisely how I read what he was saying, and yes, it is a
reasonable statement.

Yeah, that's what I said. As to the NEED for pointing out that a gunshot
wound might do some slight damage to one's wardrobe.......well, I'm content
to leave that question for others to ponder.

Speaking of distressing, you might want to get off the high horse and
figure out why hatred is ok for one but condemnable in others, because I
see no real difference.

So, you read hatred as driving the force behind my participation here? That
comes as no surprise......you're hardly the first.

So, does your recently announced upcoming change of residence have
anything at all to do with your career change? If so, I'd offer that
defending dicklet on a professional basis might be better accomplished by
moving directly to southern Mississippi rather than sneaking up on it a
bit at a time over the course of several years.

speaking of 'sans a clue' you haven't the ****ing slightest idea of the
'whys' behind my upcoming move.

I didn't suppose my first guess would be right.......it rarely is. But
then, it's hard to start with the second or third, ainna?

Speculation about the matter actually comes off as childish and
condescending, a schtick you seem to have perfected, Wolfie(or at least,
are trying to....for the life of me, I can't fathom why.

Childish and condescending are easy. I think I've also demonstrated that I
can do churlish, pedantic, pontificating, absurd, orotund, cute, and hell,
sometimes even thoughtful......or something that very nearly approaches it,
anyway. As to why, that too I am content to leave to the reader.

Angry and pointless are just two useless items in your repertoire, you
might do well to supress the urge to flaunt them).

Pointlessness is a risk we all run merely by existing. Some go so far as to
say that it's a certainty. I don't take such a firm stance myself, but
intervals of pointlessness of varying lengths and degrees creep into all
lives. On the other hand, pointlessness, like virtually everything else,
is, in a manner of speaking, in the eye of the beholder. I have never
deluded myself into believing that my own failure to see a point in one
thing or another necessarily meant that there couldn't be one there to be
seen.

Angry? Well, in a broad sense, of course. I should hope that every person
who understands and accepts the essential precepts of a humanistic outlook
is angered by the dismal prospects for the world at large reflected in the
attitudes and methodology displayed so widely and incessantly in this
microcosm. If, on the other hand, you suppose that I hammer at the keyboard
in a personal rage at the puerile chirpings of the intellectually and
morally moribund gang of haters and would be thugs in this place, you are
considerably less perceptive than I've hereto given you credit for.

Hell, Rick needs(and I'm sure doesn't require) no defense from me,

Hm.....not quite a simple typographical error, but not too difficult to sort
out the gist of what your saying......I think. Whether or not dicklet needs
defense from anyone else is highly debatable. The issue is complicated by a
consideration of whether he deserves defense, which consideration leads
inexorably down certain philosophical paths which would require more time
than he is worth. In any case, the evidence strongly suggests that you do
NOT believe that he doesn't require your defense.

and frankly, whenever we feel like visiting, I can pop for airfare, even
if I lived in, say, Wisconsin.

Apropos of.......?

As for Missisippi, I wouldn't live there on a freaking dare,

O.k.

nor even N'Orleans....but, as spots to visit, they're just fine(in the
fall and winter).

I'll bear that in mind when I exhaust my list of other places I'd rather go
first.

Tom
......you still don't get the idea that one can disagree with others
without creating enemies of them, do you??

A simple enough idea. You really believe it's beyond my grasp?

Here's another simple one in return: failure to create enemies of one's own
has never left anyone in this world wanting.

Wolfgang

New Orleans, Monday night....
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
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As for Missisippi, I wouldn't live there on a freaking dare, nor even
N'Orleans....

O.k.

Wolfgang

Something about this bothered me but I couldn't put my finger on it right
away. I thought it over for a while last night and I figured it out.

Personally, I wouldn't live there either. However, this absence from the
scene makes both of us somewhat less than absolutely reliable witnesses as
to what takes place there on a day to day basis......or pretty much any
other basis, for that matter. Thus, it is only with dicklet's
incontrovertible corroboration (lucky for you), being there on the ground as
it were, that we can take seriously your contention that Katrina never
happened.

This is going to be pretty nearly as big as the alleged "moon landings" once
the word gets out via the left-leaning media.

Wolfgang
of course, this leaves open the question of just what DID (or did not)
happen down there in the big easy.......which, by the way, looked pretty
much the same as it had before when i went through there back in march of
this year.

New Orleans, Monday night....
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

overanalysis snipped

Heck, I was just referring to the oppressive heat.
Tom

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On Sep 6, 6:11*am, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"Wolfgang" wrote in message

...

overanalysis snipped

Heck, I was just referring to the oppressive heat.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tom



Hmm, last time I was there, it wasn't really all that hot. I wonder
if.....

--riverman

....nah. Can't be.

New Orleans, Monday night....
 

"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

overanalysis snipped

Heck, I was just referring to the oppressive heat.

Yet another diabolical myth, created to keep the riff raff out of the
elysian fields.

Wolfgang