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Willi December 14th, 2003 08:10 PM

Next Year's Plans
 

Settling into work and a Winter mode after returning from the San Juan.
Now's the time of year for me to daydream about next year's trips. Over
the past year or so, I've been aware of more friends and acquaintances
dying or become sidelined by illness or injury and unfortunately,this is
a trend that accelerates as we get older. This has brought to my mind
the fragility and shortness of life, health and strength. It's also
motivated me to try and put aside the "I can'ts" and make the efforts
needed to do more of the things I want to do before I'm no longer able.

So I've daydreamed up a BUNCH of trips, hopefully most will come to be.
The one's that are floating around for me a

Belize in Jan. with Susan - get in a bit of fishing.

Jan./Feb. a trip to the Bighorn with Snoop during a warm spell.

Feb. to May good local fishing with BWO hatches with fishing improving
until runoff starts

May trip to Belize with RW and Bruiser or Penns (someone COMPETENT needs
to take charge of the weather)

June? Western Clave with a side trip to fish the lakes on the Blackfoot
Reservation

Rest of Summer local fishing with some searching out of some new
Greenback waters

September Bighorn for the black caddis hatch

Rest of the Fall locally some of the best fishing of the year

October? Steelhead in Washington

December The Juan


The others that are still "can'ts" because of the time needed: a canoe
trip to Northern Canada and a Summer exploring BC and Alberta. Then
there's a Winter trip to New Zealand when I can get Sue to fly that far
(after not flying for 25 years, hopefully she won't freak out TOO much
on the flights to Belize this Winter and will be more amenable to
flying) Maybe 2005.

Care to share your daydreams?

Willi






Dave LaCourse December 14th, 2003 08:36 PM

Next Year's Plans
 
Willi writes:

Care to share your daydreams?


Feb/Mar trip via the land barge to San Diego to visit some old Navy friends.
May drop in on that guy.....Dan'l.... if he's still there.

Early May: Steelheading with Peter Charles on the Saugeen in Ontario. May
take the camper and stay for awhile.

Late May: The Rapid River for three/four weeks.

July: Labrador - the northern coast for Atlantic Salmon and searun trout.

August: A week on the Rapid.

September: Ditto

October: Every weekend camping at the East Outlet of Moosehead Lake for
landlocks and nice brookies.

November: get my flu shot very, very early, avoid eating out and crowds.

....God willing.....

Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








Wayne Harrison December 14th, 2003 08:42 PM

Next Year's Plans
 

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
Willi writes:

Care to share your daydreams?



pie-rate: i'd like to share one of those rapid trips for a few days.
when would the best time, weather wise?

yfitons
wayno



walt winter December 14th, 2003 08:45 PM

Next Year's Plans
 
Willi wrote:


Care to share your daydreams?

Willi




My "away" trips this year will be focused on sal****er. The trip
I took down to the coast this past month re-stoked the fire that
burns within for that experience.

Locally, I plan to fish as many different small streams as
possible in the Grandfather Mountain watershed. I've kind of
gotten in a rut lately fishing the "easy" ones.... I'm gonna
return to the tight and wild streams in search of mistah brookie.

wally



Tim J. December 14th, 2003 08:59 PM

Next Year's Plans
 

"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
.com...

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
Willi writes:

Care to share your daydreams?


pie-rate: i'd like to share one of those rapid trips for a few days.
when would the best time, weather wise?


I'd like to meet up with both of you for a few days. If I can talk the wonderful
Robyn to accompany me, I'll do that, too, based on a signed hands-off bond from
wayno. :)
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Dave LaCourse December 14th, 2003 09:05 PM

Next Year's Plans
 
wayno writes:

pie-rate: i'd like to share one of those rapid trips for a few days.
when would the best time, weather wise?


Well, it's usually cold in May, nice in June, hot in July-August, and cool in
September. There's another roffian that will be there from Memorial day until
the Saturday after. Good time. Early hatches. Hungry fish. Bring a woman to
keep you warm at night. d;o)
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








Danl December 14th, 2003 09:07 PM

Next Year's Plans
 

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
Willi writes:

Care to share your daydreams?


Feb/Mar trip via the land barge to San Diego to visit some old Navy

friends.
May drop in on that guy.....Dan'l.... if he's still there.

Dave



You're always welcome here, Dave. I'm looking forward to seeing you. I hope
you're feeling better. Just be prepared for the worst weather of the year in
Feb/Mar. Let me know when your plans congeal.

Danl





Dave LaCourse December 14th, 2003 09:07 PM

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Tim J. writes:

I'd like to meet up with both of you for a few days. If I can talk the
wonderful
Robyn to accompany me, I'll do that, too, based on a signed hands-off bond
from
wayno. :)


He's all bark. Not to worry. Besides, he had better show up with his SO.
First two weeks in June are always good. Call now, however.

Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








Danl December 14th, 2003 09:13 PM

Next Year's Plans
 

"Willi" wrote in message
...

Settling into work and a Winter mode after returning from the San Juan.
Now's the time of year for me to daydream about next year's trips. Over
the past year or so, I've been aware of more friends and acquaintances
dying or become sidelined by illness or injury and unfortunately,this is
a trend that accelerates as we get older. This has brought to my mind
the fragility and shortness of life, health and strength. It's also
motivated me to try and put aside the "I can'ts" and make the efforts
needed to do more of the things I want to do before I'm no longer able.



(snip a bunch of good plans)

Care to share your daydreams?

Willi


I tried to put aside the "I can't" syndrome starting last January. I
resolved to take a multi-day fishing trip in each month of the year as a
minimum. I did pretty well on keeping my resolution and had a blast. I
haven't made plans for the whole year yet, but my wish list includes....

A few trips to the Owens/Kern through April (only open waters nearby)

A trip in May to the Smokies (Watch out, Hillbillies!)

June ????

The western clave in July

August in the Sierras or the Olympic peninsula

September and October in the Sierras

The San Juan in December.

Danl



Tim J. December 14th, 2003 09:17 PM

Next Year's Plans
 

"Dave LaCourse" wrote...
Tim J. writes:

I'd like to meet up with both of you for a few days. If I can talk the
wonderful
Robyn to accompany me, I'll do that, too, based on a signed hands-off bond
from
wayno. :)


He's all bark. Not to worry.


I was just funnin'. Besides, Rob can take care of herself. She's got a mean left
hook.

Besides, he had better show up with his SO.
First two weeks in June are always good. Call now, however.


And therein lies the rub. My schedule for the coming year is more murky than
last, so I can't solidify anything at this point, but I can hope to see both of
you on a river at some point. :)
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj




Dave LaCourse December 14th, 2003 09:18 PM

Next Year's Plans
 
Dan'l writes:

Just be prepared for the worst weather of the year in
Feb/Mar. Let me know when your plans congeal.


d;o) Can't be any worse than the stuff that is now piling up in my driveway.
Is is above 40? Sounds good to me. d;o)

It will be in Feb - probably late. We plan on a three week trip visiting folks
along the way, staying about a week, and dash home (600 - 1000 miles/day).
I'll let you know when the final plans are set.
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








Wayne Harrison December 14th, 2003 09:30 PM

Next Year's Plans
 

"Tim J." wrote

I'd like to meet up with both of you for a few days. If I can talk the

wonderful
Robyn to accompany me, I'll do that, too, based on a signed hands-off bond

from
wayno. :)


now, timmaaay, your lack of trust disappoints me. why, the little lady
will hardly know i'm alive. right, louie?

yfitons
wayno (my motto: "look--don't touch")



Tom Littleton December 14th, 2003 09:41 PM

Next Year's Plans
 
The Pirate offers:

Late May: The Rapid River for three/four weeks.


no Penn's this year? You will be missed.
Tom

Dave LaCourse December 14th, 2003 09:54 PM

Next Year's Plans
 
Tom L. writes:

no Penn's this year? You will be missed.


Probably not, Tom, but thank you for the kind thought. I'd like to hit the
Rapid before the hatches and try streamers and nymphs. But, who knows, I may
take a pre-clave trip to Penns. Love the place, but am very wary of the
weather ruining it.
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








Tim J. December 14th, 2003 11:26 PM

Next Year's Plans
 

"Dave LaCourse" wrote...
Tom L. writes:

no Penn's this year? You will be missed.


Probably not, Tom, but thank you for the kind thought. I'd like to hit the
Rapid before the hatches and try streamers and nymphs. But, who knows, I may
take a pre-clave trip to Penns. Love the place, but am very wary of the
weather ruining it.


I have it on good authority that absolutely NO sunshine will appear at Penns
2004 to ruin the otherwise perfect record. I mean what fun would it be to hear
stories about a ray of sunshine finding its way through Frank's tent?
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Ken Fortenberry December 14th, 2003 11:52 PM

Next Year's Plans
 
Willi wrote:
...
Care to share your daydreams?


A smattering each of old, new, borrowed and blue.

The Wisconsin Trout Opener in March, the Minnesota Trout Opener
in April, Penn's in May, the Smokies in June, bluegill close to
home in July and August, Cooke City, Montana in September and a
canoe trip in northern Ontario for October.

Good lord willin' and the crick don't rise. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry


Tom Littleton December 15th, 2003 12:50 AM

Next Year's Plans
 
Forty writes:

Penn's in May


about freakin time!! Reid, get a duck trophy ready, we got a new one coming
east!

Tom

Tom Littleton December 15th, 2003 12:52 AM

Next Year's Plans
 
Tim J notes:
I have it on good authority that absolutely NO sunshine will appear at Penns
2004 to ruin the otherwise perfect record


for those of you that were at the first Penn's clave, you know
otherwise.....Tim, why do you think some of these folks keep coming back? This
year is going to have spectacular weather, we are due.
Tom

Wayne December 15th, 2003 01:23 AM

Next Year's Plans
 
A couple of us are going to try to get after stripers in Va. Beach on Dec.
22. The bite is ON! Come on up and we'll slam a few!
--
Wayne
To Fish is Human...To Release Divine!

"walt winter" wrote in message
...
Willi wrote:


Care to share your daydreams?

Willi




My "away" trips this year will be focused on sal****er. The trip
I took down to the coast this past month re-stoked the fire that
burns within for that experience.

Locally, I plan to fish as many different small streams as
possible in the Grandfather Mountain watershed. I've kind of
gotten in a rut lately fishing the "easy" ones.... I'm gonna
return to the tight and wild streams in search of mistah brookie.

wally





Lat705 December 15th, 2003 01:47 AM

Next Year's Plans
 
Define "spectacular weather" please.


Lou T

Bob Patton December 15th, 2003 01:53 AM

Next Year's Plans
 
"Willi" wrote in message
...

Settling into work and a Winter mode after returning from the San Juan.
Now's the time of year for me to daydream about next year's trips. Over
the past year or so, I've been aware of more friends and acquaintances
dying or become sidelined by illness or injury and unfortunately,this is
a trend that accelerates as we get older. This has brought to my mind
the fragility and shortness of life, health and strength. It's also
motivated me to try and put aside the "I can'ts" and make the efforts
needed to do more of the things I want to do before I'm no longer able.


Smokies, Graham, and Macon County NC in May or June. I want to go up S-bird
creek to where it is just over the ridge from the headwaters of the Tellico
River, then go over land to the Tellico. That might be a very difficult
trip, and would probably involve bushwhacking through the woods for a piece.
Been there once before, but came in from another direction that involved a
long 4-wheel drive and a locked gate. Damned hard to get to and real pretty
brookie water. Wouldn't hurt to spend a few days on other creeks in the
general area, either.

Bob





ezflyfisher December 15th, 2003 01:59 AM

Next Year's Plans
 


Danl wrote:



A trip in May to the Smokies (Watch out, Hillbillies!)


i'll keep an eye out fer ya danl..... just think, the rest of these
hilljacks will be in PA.... we'll have all the rivers and streams to
ourselves. ;-)

wally


Ken Fortenberry December 15th, 2003 02:01 AM

Next Year's Plans
 
Bob Patton wrote:

Smokies, Graham, and Macon County NC in May or June. I want to go up S-bird
creek to where it is just over the ridge from the headwaters of the Tellico
River, then go over land to the Tellico. That might be a very difficult
trip, and would probably involve bushwhacking through the woods for a piece.
Been there once before, but came in from another direction that involved a
long 4-wheel drive and a locked gate. Damned hard to get to and real pretty
brookie water. Wouldn't hurt to spend a few days on other creeks in the
general area, either.


Jeffie & me went about as far up S-bird as you can go and there's a
lot of private property in that direction too. I couldn't find a way
around it. It is real pretty brookie water though, if you like your
brookies in the 3" range. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry


Bob Patton December 15th, 2003 02:21 AM

Next Year's Plans
 
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
y.com...
//snip//
Jeffie & me went about as far up S-bird as you can go and there's a
lot of private property in that direction too. I couldn't find a way
around it. It is real pretty brookie water though, if you like your
brookies in the 3" range. ;-)


I can imagine. The Tellico up there is only about three or four feet across.
I wouldn't do it for the size of the fish as much as for the challenge of
doing it. People tell me they think I'd be nuts to go cross-country through
that terrain - and they are probably right.
Bob



Joe McIntosh December 15th, 2003 02:37 AM

Next Year's Plans
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
y.com...
Bob Patton wrote:

Smokies, Graham, and Macon County NC in May or June. I want to go up

S-bird
creek to where it is just over the ridge from the headwaters of the

Tellico
River, then go over land to the Tellico. That might be a very difficult
trip, and would probably involve bushwhacking through the woods for a

piece.
Been there once before, but came in from another direction that involved

a
long 4-wheel drive and a locked gate. Damned hard to get to and real

pretty
brookie water. Wouldn't hurt to spend a few days on other creeks in the
general area, either.


Jeffie & me went about as far up S-bird as you can go and there's a
lot of private property in that direction too. I couldn't find a way
around it. It is real pretty brookie water though, if you like your
brookies in the 3" range. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry


IJ offers the best approach is to leave your car at Junction , then let me
drive up the Cherohala Skyway and drop you off at Hooper Bald Trailhead---
fish downhill all day !!!!! [if you know how to fish downstream ]



Ken Fortenberry December 15th, 2003 03:02 AM

Next Year's Plans
 
Bob Patton wrote:

... People tell me they think I'd be nuts to go cross-country through
that terrain - and they are probably right.


Yeah, I like a challenge as much as the next guy but in this case
I gotta agree with "people". ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry


Bob Patton December 15th, 2003 03:27 AM

Next Year's Plans
 
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
y.com...
//snip//
Yeah, I like a challenge as much as the next guy but in this case
I gotta agree with "people". ;-)


But what's a risk of sprained ankle, broken leg, rattlesnakes, sheer
drop-offs, rhodo thickets, and sheer confusion about where one is, when the
reward is a 3-inch brookie?
:-)
Bob




Bob Patton December 15th, 2003 03:30 AM

Next Year's Plans
 

"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
...

//snip//

IJ offers the best approach is to leave your car at Junction , then let

me
drive up the Cherohala Skyway and drop you off at Hooper Bald

Trailhead---
fish downhill all day !!!!! [if you know how to fish downstream ]

Starting from Hooper Bald is actually a very good idea. Spent a night on
Hooper Bald three years ago and considered walking from there down. I still
have a map with the route highlighted.
Bob



Darin Minor December 15th, 2003 03:58 AM

Next Year's Plans
 
Danl wrote:

You're always welcome here, Dave. I'm looking forward to seeing you. I hope
you're feeling better. Just be prepared for the worst weather of the year in
Feb/Mar. Let me know when your plans congeal.

Danl


Bad weather? The temps get down to what, low 60's and no rain?

Darin :-)




Stan Gula December 15th, 2003 06:15 AM

Next Year's Plans
 
"Lat705" wrote in message
...
Define "spectacular weather" please.


Lou T


Thunder snow.
--
Stan Gula



Big Dale December 15th, 2003 08:41 AM

Next Year's Plans
 
Waldo wrote:snip A trip in May to the Smokies (Watch out, Hillbillies!)


i'll keep an eye out fer ya danl..... just think, the rest of these
hilljacks will be in PA.... we'll have all the rivers and streams to
ourselves. ;-)

wally

I have been thinking of heading up your way after the FFF Southeast Conclave
May 13-15. What was the link to tha place where the clave was in Octobe? I sure
did like that place and those folks.

Big Dale



SnakeFiddler December 15th, 2003 01:00 PM

Next Year's Plans
 
David LaCourse wrote:
Bring a woman to keep you warm at night.


Glad to see you boys have your priorities straight! :-)

Snakefiddler-

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
wayno writes:

pie-rate: i'd like to share one of those rapid trips for a few days.
when would the best time, weather wise?


Well, it's usually cold in May, nice in June, hot in July-August, and

cool in
September. There's another roffian that will be there from Memorial day

until
the Saturday after. Good time. Early hatches. Hungry fish. Bring a

woman to
keep you warm at night. d;o)
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html










SnakeFiddler December 15th, 2003 01:30 PM

Next Year's Plans
 
Bob Patton wrote:
I want to go up S-Bird Creek to where it is just over the ridge from the

headwaters of the Tellico River....

Sounds like a good place to hang out, Bob. I don't know about it from a fly
fishing point of view, but the Tellico is a very rich source of
archaeological information pertaining to the Indians of the Archaic period.
The Tellico is host to 23 excavated sites, with ten of them clusters around
the Blount/Monroe county area, and the Loudon/Blount Counties area, just
south of highway 411. It also includes the site of the one time Cherokee
capital, Chota. I'd keep my eye to the ground!! :-)

Snakefidller- novice flintnapper...
"Bob Patton" rwpmailatcharterdotnet wrote in message
...
"Willi" wrote in message
...

Settling into work and a Winter mode after returning from the San Juan.
Now's the time of year for me to daydream about next year's trips. Over
the past year or so, I've been aware of more friends and acquaintances
dying or become sidelined by illness or injury and unfortunately,this is
a trend that accelerates as we get older. This has brought to my mind
the fragility and shortness of life, health and strength. It's also
motivated me to try and put aside the "I can'ts" and make the efforts
needed to do more of the things I want to do before I'm no longer able.


Smokies, Graham, and Macon County NC in May or June. I want to go up

S-bird
creek to where it is just over the ridge from the headwaters of the

Tellico
River, then go over land to the Tellico. That might be a very difficult
trip, and would probably involve bushwhacking through the woods for a

piece.
Been there once before, but came in from another direction that involved a
long 4-wheel drive and a locked gate. Damned hard to get to and real

pretty
brookie water. Wouldn't hurt to spend a few days on other creeks in the
general area, either.

Bob







Conan the Librarian December 15th, 2003 01:42 PM

Next Year's Plans
 
Willi wrote in message ...

Settling into work and a Winter mode after returning from the San Juan.
Now's the time of year for me to daydream about next year's trips. Over
the past year or so, I've been aware of more friends and acquaintances
dying or become sidelined by illness or injury and unfortunately,this is
a trend that accelerates as we get older. This has brought to my mind
the fragility and shortness of life, health and strength. It's also
motivated me to try and put aside the "I can'ts" and make the efforts
needed to do more of the things I want to do before I'm no longer able.

So I've daydreamed up a BUNCH of trips, hopefully most will come to be.
The one's that are floating around for me a

[snip of major plans]


Gosh, you guys dream big. :-) I'm sure of one trip next year, and
that will be up to the Crowsnest Pass, Canuckistan at the end of
July/beginning of August. SWMBO has a high school reunion then, so
I'm gonna go along and flail about on the water while she hangs out
with her old friends.

Besides that, I'm hoping to get to the Smokies some time, and if
time/money permit, I want to go back to the Yellowstone area, maybe
staying closer to the Henry's Fork area this time.

In the meantime, they will be putting some manufactured trout in
the river at the end of this week, so I guess I'll have to be content
with fishing the Guadalupe River to close out this year. And bass and
bluegill season isn't that far away.


Chuck Vance

Wolfgang December 15th, 2003 01:54 PM

Next Year's Plans
 

"SnakeFiddler" wrote in message
...
David LaCourse wrote:
Bring a woman to keep you warm at night.


Glad to see you boys have your priorities straight! :-)


Hell, even got the GENDER straight!

Wolfgang
and at their age, that's a good enough day's work for some of these
boys. :)



SnakeFiddler December 15th, 2003 02:20 PM

Next Year's Plans
 
Wolfgang wrote:

Hell, they even got the GENDER straight!


Wolfgang

and at their age, that's a good enough day's work for some of these boys
:-)

Some things just come naturally, regardless of age... :-)

Snakefiddler- grateful for such.....
"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"SnakeFiddler" wrote in message
...
David LaCourse wrote:
Bring a woman to keep you warm at night.


Glad to see you boys have your priorities straight! :-)


Hell, even got the GENDER straight!

Wolfgang
and at their age, that's a good enough day's work for some of these
boys. :)





Wolfgang December 15th, 2003 02:28 PM

Next Year's Plans
 

"SnakeFiddler" wrote in message
...
Wolfgang wrote:

Hell, they even got the GENDER straight!


Wolfgang

and at their age, that's a good enough day's work for some of these

boys
:-)

Some things just come naturally, regardless of age... :-)


True enough......but it's the things that come UNnatrually that
concern us. :(

Wolfgang



Danl December 15th, 2003 06:54 PM

Next Year's Plans
 

"Darin Minor" wrote in message
...
Danl wrote:

You're always welcome here, Dave. I'm looking forward to seeing you. I

hope
you're feeling better. Just be prepared for the worst weather of the

year in
Feb/Mar. Let me know when your plans congeal.

Danl


Bad weather? The temps get down to what, low 60's and no rain?

Darin :-)



Shows what you know, Darin. In a statistically significant number of years,
it has rained in San Diego County in either February or March. The rain has,
on occasion, been accompanied by nighttime temperatures BELOW 50F. Under
such circumstances, we locals have learned to just hunker down and bravely
bear the brunt of old man winter's tour de force.

Danl





Danl December 15th, 2003 06:58 PM

Next Year's Plans
 

"ezflyfisher" wrote in message
ink.net...


Danl wrote:



A trip in May to the Smokies (Watch out, Hillbillies!)


i'll keep an eye out fer ya danl..... just think, the rest of these
hilljacks will be in PA.... we'll have all the rivers and streams to
ourselves. ;-)

wally


Yer damn skippy we will, Uncle Wally. Unless we allow whatever lesses and
lees are left in the lower latitudes to limp along with us.

Danl



Tim J. December 15th, 2003 07:01 PM

Next Year's Plans
 

"Danl" wrote...
"Darin Minor" wrote...
Danl wrote:

You're always welcome here, Dave. I'm looking forward to seeing you. I

hope
you're feeling better. Just be prepared for the worst weather of the

year in
Feb/Mar. Let me know when your plans congeal.

Danl


Bad weather? The temps get down to what, low 60's and no rain?



Shows what you know, Darin. In a statistically significant number of years,
it has rained in San Diego County in either February or March. The rain has,
on occasion, been accompanied by nighttime temperatures BELOW 50F. Under
such circumstances, we locals have learned to just hunker down and bravely
bear the brunt of old man winter's tour de force.


Since I am fluent in Californeese, allow me:

Shows what you know, Darin.


Dude!

In a statistically significant number of years,
it has rained in San Diego County in either February or March.


It rained once about ten years ago. The ground stayed wet for a few hours.

The rain has,
on occasion, been accompanied by nighttime temperatures BELOW 50F.


If we hold an ice cube to the thermometer, the red stuff goes down.

Under
such circumstances, we locals have learned to just hunker down and bravely
bear the brunt of old man winter's tour de force.


Whoa, dude. Let's break out the windbreakers and wine.
--
HTH,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj




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