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We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
Bushies Come to Palin's Aid By Michael Isikoff The McCain team has hastily assembled a team of former Bush White House aides to tutor the vice-presidential candidate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, on foreign-policy issues, to write her speeches and to begin preparing her for her all-important Oct. 2 debate against Sen. Joe Biden. Steve Biegun, who once served as the No. 3 National Security Council official under Condoleezza Rice at the White House, has been hired as chief foreign-policy adviser to the Alaska governor, campaign officials told NEWSWEEK. .... http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/s...-s-rescue.aspx Oh, my. Foreign policy advice from the Bush team........ - JR |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:15:32 -0400, JR wrote:
Bushies Come to Palin's Aid By Michael Isikoff The McCain team has hastily assembled a team of former Bush White House aides to tutor the vice-presidential candidate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, on foreign-policy issues, to write her speeches and to begin preparing her for her all-important Oct. 2 debate against Sen. Joe Biden. Steve Biegun, who once served as the No. 3 National Security Council official under Condoleezza Rice at the White House, has been hired as chief foreign-policy adviser to the Alaska governor, campaign officials told NEWSWEEK. ... http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/s...-s-rescue.aspx Oh, my. Foreign policy advice from the Bush team........ - JR Yeah - that'll work ;-) So...McCain announced he won't be appearing on that hard-core news show that is Larry King Live - he of the major league softball pitchers club - because he's afraid he'll end up looking like *this* idiot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfvPxYYIdP4 ahahahahahahahaha /daytripper (good grief, the R's ticket is uber-lame!) |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
On Sep 2, 8:25*pm, daytripper wrote:
SNIP SNIP Don't worry. Right now the national media is ga ga over her but has next to zero knowledge of just how corrupt Alaska politicians, male and female, are. She will not stand up to scrutiny. Palin is a typical right wing grafter, minus a pecker. Hooray, she cut Wasilla property taxes 40% Boooooo. She "hires" (read paid off) a Senator Stevens' henchman, then the Senator conveniently earmarks a total of something like $27 million for Wasilla, including a sports center for the ex-point guard and a $15 million rail link between Wasilla and the Senator's ski resort hometown of Girdwood. Then when the Senator gets in trouble for extorting $250,000 in remodeling from an oil industry firm, with the FBI closing in Palin beauregard's the old grafter by suddenly condemning his earmarks for the notorious "bridge to Nowhere." Her "reform" record is made up of this kind of crap and doublecrosses. Even the Republicans will start to figure it out in a week or two. They been had. A typical right wing graft scheme. Your average Republican has no idea of the corruption that has rotted the heart out of their party, or insists that the Dems do the same. Amazing. Dave |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:15:32 -0400, JR wrote:
Bushies Come to Palin's Aid By Michael Isikoff The McCain team has hastily assembled a team of former Bush White House aides to tutor the vice-presidential candidate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, on foreign-policy issues, to write her speeches and to begin preparing her for her all-important Oct. 2 debate against Sen. Joe Biden. Steve Biegun, who once served as the No. 3 National Security Council official under Condoleezza Rice at the White House, has been hired as chief foreign-policy adviser to the Alaska governor, campaign officials told NEWSWEEK. ... http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/s...-s-rescue.aspx Oh, my. Foreign policy advice from the Bush team........ - JR Um, if not a single person who has ever served "in the Bush Administration" is competent, why do leftwingers get all hot and wet when one writes a book critical of it, which they then proceed to hold up as gospel, ala Scott McClellan...? HTH, R |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:15:32 -0400, JR wrote: Bushies Come to Palin's Aid By Michael Isikoff The McCain team has hastily assembled a team of former Bush White House aides to tutor the vice-presidential candidate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, on foreign-policy issues, to write her speeches and to begin preparing her for her all-important Oct. 2 debate against Sen. Joe Biden. Steve Biegun, who once served as the No. 3 National Security Council official under Condoleezza Rice at the White House, has been hired as chief foreign-policy adviser to the Alaska governor, campaign officials told NEWSWEEK. ... http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/s...-s-rescue.aspx Oh, my. Foreign policy advice from the Bush team........ - JR Um, if not a single person who has ever served "in the Bush Administration" is competent, why do leftwingers get all hot and wet when one writes a book critical of it, which they then proceed to hold up as gospel, ala Scott McClellan...? Why would Murrica's only "liberal"® hold up as gospel a deranged apostate's ravings?: "I think it's 84 days from now that the people of America are going to choose their next president. And it's a big choice, because we know these are tough times at home economically, and dangerous times in the world. And in my opinion, the choice could not be more clear; between one candidate, John McCain, who has experience and has been tested in war and tried in peace, and another candidate that has not. Between one candidate, John McCain, who has always put his country first, worked across party lines to get things done, and one candidate that has not. Between one candidate that's a talker and one candidate who's the leader America needs as our next president." (Democratic Senator and John Kerry's choice for veep, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut) Wolfgang who, if this gets any easier, is going to enjoy it just as much anyway. :) |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
On Sep 3, 12:24*pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
(Democratic Senator and John Kerry's choice for veep, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut) I believe you are mistaken, Kerry's running mate was Edwards. Lieberman was the running mate for Al Gore. |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
Wolfgang wrote:
(Democratic Senator and John Kerry's choice for veep, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut) Wolfgang who, if this gets any easier, is going to enjoy it just as much anyway. :) Imbecile. Rewriting history again, eh? Please tell us which year did Kerry pick Lieberman as his VP running mate? |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message ... Wolfgang wrote: (Democratic Senator and John Kerry's choice for veep, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut) Wolfgang who, if this gets any easier, is going to enjoy it just as much anyway. :) Imbecile. Rewriting history again, eh? Please tell us which year did Kerry pick Lieberman as his VP running mate? Could this possibly be any more delicious? Anybody care to help the boy down off the meathook? davie? :) Wolfgang |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
Wolfgang wrote:
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message ... Wolfgang wrote: (Democratic Senator and John Kerry's choice for veep, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut) Wolfgang who, if this gets any easier, is going to enjoy it just as much anyway. :) Imbecile. Rewriting history again, eh? Please tell us which year did Kerry pick Lieberman as his VP running mate? Could this possibly be any more delicious? Anybody care to help the boy down off the meathook? davie? :) Wolfgang Moron. So maybe you're really saying that Kerry picked Lieberman, but, like the electorate, Lieberman said no. But in any case, you're just plain wrong. So I'll return to ignoring your posts. Nothing of value in the bandwidth wasted to get your messages. |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
"Wayne Knight" wrote in message ... On Sep 3, 12:24 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote: (Democratic Senator and John Kerry's choice for veep, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut) I believe you are mistaken, Kerry's running mate was Edwards. Lieberman was the running mate for Al Gore. I should be more careful about setting off blocks of quoted text. The attribution above comes to us via our own "Real Creole"® graduate of the southern mississippi skool of entomology and other cooking stuff, from a post in another thread. :) I'd have responded sooner but I didn't look closely and assumed you were addressing the above alluded to political and culinary genius. Wolfgang |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message ... Wolfgang wrote: "Peaceful Bill" wrote in message ... Wolfgang wrote: (Democratic Senator and John Kerry's choice for veep, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut) Wolfgang who, if this gets any easier, is going to enjoy it just as much anyway. :) Imbecile. Rewriting history again, eh? Please tell us which year did Kerry pick Lieberman as his VP running mate? Could this possibly be any more delicious? Anybody care to help the boy down off the meathook? davie? :) Wolfgang Moron. Flatterer. So maybe you're really saying that Kerry picked Lieberman, but, like the electorate, Lieberman said no. But in any case, you're just plain wrong. Actually, no......but someone sure was. And someone else still is. So I'll return to ignoring your posts. Ouch. Nothing of value in the bandwidth wasted to get your messages. Huh? Wolfgang who supposes the author of the misattributed attribution above must be REALLY embarrassed long about now. :) |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
Wayne Knight wrote:
On Sep 3, 12:24 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote: (Democratic Senator and John Kerry's choice for veep, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut) I believe you are mistaken, Kerry's running mate was Edwards. Lieberman was the running mate for Al Gore. though i suspect the study or consumption of okra and gumbo could easily tax one's gray matter (or at least gum it up sufficiently) ...uh ... actually, as i recall, aruhdean posted that juicy bit of false history... jeff (who doubts ms. palin will ever be the subject of such confusion. ....and, god in heaven, please...let her wear the black leather boots tonight!!) |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
On Sep 3, 9:12*am, wrote:
Who ever said that "not a single who has ever served in the Bush Administration" is competent?" No one here. I guess its easier to score points against straw men. Lame Dave |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
Hot mic catches GOP strategists trashing Palin pick
From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney (CNN) Prominent Republican analysts Peggy Noonan and Mike Murphy became the latest victims of an open microphone Wednesday, caught after a segment on MSNBC trashing John McCain's pick of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. Noonan, a Wall Street Journal columnist and former speechwriter for Ronald Reagan, and Murphy, a campaign strategist and onetime aide to John McCain, can both be heard expressing disbelief with the pick of Palin after they apparently thought they were in a commercial break. "I come out of the blue swing-state governor world, Engler, Whitman, Thompson, Mitt Romney", Murphy said during the mishap which has since been posted on YouTube. Murphy later flatly says of the pick, "It's not going to work." Noonan is heard going even further, saying of the presidential race, "It's over." "I think they went for this - excuse me - political bull**** about narratives," Noonan also said. "Every time the Republicans do that, because that's not where they live and it's not what they're good at, they blow it." |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 01:08:08 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Sep 2, 8:25*pm, daytripper wrote: SNIP SNIP Don't worry. Right now the national media is ga ga over her but has next to zero knowledge of just how corrupt Alaska politicians, male and female, are. She will not stand up to scrutiny. Palin is a typical right wing grafter, minus a pecker. Hooray, she cut Wasilla property taxes 40% Boooooo. She "hires" (read paid off) a Senator Stevens' henchman, then the Senator conveniently earmarks a total of something like $27 million for Wasilla, including a sports center for the ex-point guard and a $15 million rail link between Wasilla and the Senator's ski resort hometown of Girdwood. Then when the Senator gets in trouble for extorting $250,000 in remodeling from an oil industry firm, with the FBI closing in Palin beauregard's the old grafter by suddenly condemning his earmarks for the notorious "bridge to Nowhere." Her "reform" record is made up of this kind of crap and doublecrosses. Even the Republicans will start to figure it out in a week or two. They been had. A typical right wing graft scheme. Your average Republican has no idea of the corruption that has rotted the heart out of their party, or insists that the Dems do the same. Amazing. Dave This gets more interesting every freakin' day! http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/...ef=mpstoryview (CNN) -- Aides to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin improperly obtained her former brother-in-law's state police personnel files and cited information from those records to raise complaints about the officer, the head of Alaska's state police union said Thursday... /daytripper (being governor of Alaska = too much free time? ;-) |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:48:15 -0400, daytripper
wrote: On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 01:08:08 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 2, 8:25*pm, daytripper wrote: SNIP SNIP Don't worry. Right now the national media is ga ga over her but has next to zero knowledge of just how corrupt Alaska politicians, male and female, are. She will not stand up to scrutiny. Palin is a typical right wing grafter, minus a pecker. Hooray, she cut Wasilla property taxes 40% Boooooo. She "hires" (read paid off) a Senator Stevens' henchman, then the Senator conveniently earmarks a total of something like $27 million for Wasilla, including a sports center for the ex-point guard and a $15 million rail link between Wasilla and the Senator's ski resort hometown of Girdwood. Then when the Senator gets in trouble for extorting $250,000 in remodeling from an oil industry firm, with the FBI closing in Palin beauregard's the old grafter by suddenly condemning his earmarks for the notorious "bridge to Nowhere." Her "reform" record is made up of this kind of crap and doublecrosses. Even the Republicans will start to figure it out in a week or two. They been had. A typical right wing graft scheme. Your average Republican has no idea of the corruption that has rotted the heart out of their party, or insists that the Dems do the same. Amazing. Dave This gets more interesting every freakin' day! http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/...ef=mpstoryview (CNN) -- Aides to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin improperly obtained her former brother-in-law's state police personnel files and cited information from those records to raise complaints about the officer, the head of Alaska's state police union said Thursday... HOLY ****! Improper record obtaining! The US will be incensed! It will be horrified! It will be...well, OK, so no one will really care...but, well...um...I feel your pain...and it'll take a village to heal that pain...and...and...and...oh, who are we kidding - the guy apparently tasered her nephew (to quote someone and I doubt it was her side, "in a training capacity..."), cheated on her sister, and kicked someone's dog. Let's examine this as carefully as the voters might: one the one hand, he tasered a 10 year old, yada-yada-yada, he got fired, and on the other, she allegedly read some allegedly improperly obtained records and had ass run sideways. Hmmm...records-reading over Tasered kids...boy, a tough call, but I've got to bet on Tasing kids being the loser. If you're a Dem, this isn't the horse to put the spurs into, but hey, knock yourself out...no pun intended...well, not exactly, anyway. The Dems are flailing badly with this and they might oughta stop...yesterday. /daytripper (being governor of Alaska = too much free time? ;-) I'd suggest not giving each other blow jobs quite yet, but hey, don't ask, don't tell, gay rights, and all...plus at the end of the day, I don't begrudge you girls your fun...well, that, and I figure you'll be more amusing this way...or at least I'll be more amused... HTH, R |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
wrote in message ... I'd suggest not giving each other blow jobs quite yet, straight out of Pulp Fiction, but good political advice. Still, the feedback our canvassers are getting(in, what is, remember a majority Republican district) is that Palin came off as shrill, smart-alecky and smarmy. I'm shocked at how these people here have turned on the GOP, so, while I'm not about to declare "mission accomplished" yet, I think we may be at a national pendulum swing moment. Tom p.s. And Frank Church illustrated exactly WHY voters are feeling as they do. His rant, belittling education and educated people illustrates exactly how empty headed many in the GOP have come. They celebrate ignorance, push tough talk and jingoistic BS over really making the world and nation safer, and come up real small in terms of actually moving the nation in a unified, positive direction. It is only fitting and right that such an attitude get buried. The sooner, the better. |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
Tom Littleton wrote:
snip . . . belittling education and educated people illustrates exactly how empty headed many in the GOP have come. They celebrate ignorance, push tough talk and jingoistic BS over really making the world and nation safer, and come up real small in terms of actually moving the nation in a unified, positive direction. It is only fitting and right that such an attitude get buried. The sooner, the better. .. . . and this is the attitude that got the Dems into the downward slide in the last two elections. It's that "many" thingy that'll get you every time, my friend. The middle-of-the-road voters will be the deciding factor in this election and, tho' I'm no expert here, their decisions just may be influenced by these types of elitist comments. If playing down to the element you describe above comes into play ("Can I get me a huntin' license here?"), turn out the lights - it's over. -- TL, Tim ------------------------- http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 07:35:30 -0400, "Tim J."
wrote: Tom Littleton wrote: snip . . . belittling education and educated people illustrates exactly how empty headed many in the GOP have come. "have come?" Are you kidding? The GOP, among its myriad membership, has had for years and will probably always have about 50 percent of the US population of empty-headed dumbasses who'll vote for whomever the party throws in front of them...and the Dems, among their myriad membership, have a solid lock on the other 50 percent... They celebrate ignorance, push tough talk and jingoistic BS over really making the world and nation safer, and come up real small in terms of actually moving the nation in a unified, positive direction. It is only fitting and right that such an attitude get buried. The sooner, the better. . . . and this is the attitude that got the Dems into the downward slide in the last two elections. It's that "many" thingy that'll get you every time, my friend. The middle-of-the-road voters will be the deciding factor in this election Absolutely. Both slates are gonna get the first 40-45 or so percent as a freebie, and in just about dead-nut equal amounts, Nader is gonna get his 4ish, Barr (if he's in) his 1, that leaves about 10ish percent of the _actual_ voters, tops, who'll aren't currently "committed" and will decide this. Obviously, they aren't "pre-aligned" with either, and half of them won't decide until the very last minute unless something EXTREME!!! happens and the "decision" will be all or mostly emotional reaction. The remaining 5 think of themselves as real weigh-all-the-information types who are going to hear ALL the information before making a really informed decision, but really, because of where they get their info, they are just mirrors of the right and left who will just about split. What you'll have is about 5-8 % of those voting who'll decide this (the emotion deciders) and who'll do so based on, well, emotion. and, tho' I'm no expert here, their decisions just may be influenced by these types of elitist comments. Oh, you bet your ass. If playing down to the element you describe above comes into play ("Can I get me a huntin' license here?"), turn out the lights - it's over. TC, R |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
On Sep 5, 7:35*pm, "Tim J." wrote:
If playing down to the element you describe above comes into play ("Can I get me a huntin' license here?"), turn out the lights - it's over. I've thought a lot about that statement over the past few years. This summer, I was in Maine and went over to LL Bean's to get a fishing license for the summer. I was driving around with my college buddy Mark, and while at Bean's, bumped into another college buddy, Kevin. Between the three of us, we have 5 college degrees, one of them honorary, have known each other for over 30 years, and have no pretenses about our intellectual abilities. Kevin asked me what I was doing at Bean's, and I replied "I'm looking at fly rods and I gotta get me a fishin' license". As I said it, it dawned on me that that's how you say it. "I gotta get me a fishin' license." It doesn't matter where you went to school, how much money or culture you do or don't have, or where you live. Its just how it is said. It has something to do with the essence of the sport (activity, whatever). Something to do with the simplicity of being in nature, shedding the trapments of 'culture' or something....I don't know. But the press hounding Kerry and accusing him of playing down and insulting the 'average joe' was just a cheap shot with no substance. The press who were bashing him (or buying into the Rovian strategy behind the bashing) probably had never been hunting, and might even had believed that he was talking down. I bet even the main body of folks who thought he was talking down were city folks who had never been hunting. \ But I bet the shop owner who had the question directed at him didn't for one moment even notice the phrase. It would have been much worse if he had said "May I purchase a Hunting License for myself here?" Now THAT would have been condescending. --riverman |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:51:16 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote: On Sep 5, 7:35*pm, "Tim J." wrote: If playing down to the element you describe above comes into play ("Can I get me a huntin' license here?"), turn out the lights - it's over. I've thought a lot about that statement over the past few years. This summer, I was in Maine and went over to LL Bean's to get a fishing license for the summer. I was driving around with my college buddy Mark, and while at Bean's, bumped into another college buddy, Kevin. Between the three of us, we have 5 college degrees, one of them honorary, have known each other for over 30 years, and have no pretenses about our intellectual abilities. Kevin asked me what I was doing at Bean's, and I replied "I'm looking at fly rods and I gotta get me a fishin' license". As I said it, it dawned on me that that's how you say it. "I gotta get me a fishin' license." It doesn't matter where you went to school, how much money or culture you do or don't have, or where you live. Its just how it is said. It has something to do with the essence of the sport (activity, whatever). Something to do with the simplicity of being in nature, shedding the trapments of 'culture' or something....I don't know. But the press hounding Kerry and accusing him of playing down and insulting the 'average joe' was just a cheap shot with no substance. The press who were bashing him (or buying into the Rovian strategy behind the bashing) probably had never been hunting, and might even had believed that he was talking down. I bet even the main body of folks who thought he was talking down were city folks who had never been hunting. \ But I bet the shop owner who had the question directed at him didn't for one moment even notice the phrase. It would have been much worse if he had said "May I purchase a Hunting License for myself here?" Now THAT would have been condescending. --riverman In the, um, better social circles, there is no need to announce such matters...I mean, friends would be shocked that you didn't already have licenses for every possible thing, fishing, hunting, trapping, netting, gigging, and transporting, that they offer... TC, R |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
"Tim J." wrote in message . .. note, Tim, that I used the word 'many', instead of 'most'. Tom |
We liberals may as well admit defeat on the Palin front.
Tom Littleton wrote:
"Tim J." wrote in message . .. note, Tim, that I used the word 'many', instead of 'most'. Noted, Tom. I've noticed that many liberal elitist assholes (copyright 2000, Ken Fortenberry) many these types of generalizations. ;-) -- TL, Tim ------------------------- http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
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