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It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...
http://media.newsbusters.org/stories...acks-manhattan
With "celebs" like these, Obama doesn't need enemies... Sheesh, R |
It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 andhere's a reason...
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It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 andhere's a reason...
On Sep 21, 10:16*pm, wrote:
http://media.newsbusters.org/stories...lin-would-be-g... With "celebs" like these, Obama doesn't need enemies... Sheesh, R So I guess Culture is lost on you, then? :-) --riverman |
It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 andhere's a reason...
On Sep 21, 7:16*am, wrote:
R Isn't this one of the "News services" that the right wing whack job, gay male prostitute worked for? The gay male prostitute who had wide open access to the White house. Didn't he write some stories like this you cited last election go round? You know the guy, the one who advertised his specialty as administering mild beatings to his clients while dressed in US Marine Corp paraphanelia? You know, the gay male prostitute for whom the White house has blocked the FBI from finding out just who gave him the press pass, and just who he "visited" in the White house, and just who either kept him there overnight or let him thru the White house security envelope without apparently signing out with the Secret Service? (I'm guessing Karl Rowe because his penchant for nastiness kind of fits the pattern for bitter closeted overcompensaters, although it could have been someone on the VPs staff who were so into that live feed torchure room they shut down. Just speculation) Didn't this outfit do the trash McCain stories for the Bush campaign in the Carolinas last election? You know, the ones that tried to say that John McCain was hiding his Black children? Just shows how things can change, now they are working for McCain. Oh yes, now I remember, Jeff Gannon, thats the alias for James Dale Gluckert, but if anyone wants to know more they can always go to the extensive Wiki article on this cutie. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon Dave |
It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:38:20 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: wrote: ... Obama was never gonna take Mississippi, so could it be that what you're hearing down to the Piggly Wiggly ain't necessarily true in the more educated sections of the country ? Hey, anything's possible, but since I don't even know where a Piggly Wiggly is located, it's not likely. But I am curious - where's your supposed outrage at the actual racism in her comments? HTH, R |
It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 08:01:51 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote: On Sep 21, 10:16*pm, wrote: http://media.newsbusters.org/stories...lin-would-be-g... With "celebs" like these, Obama doesn't need enemies... Sheesh, R So I guess Culture is lost on you, then? If that's how you define it, I hope so. And where's your outrage at her actual racism? HTH, R :-) --riverman |
It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...
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It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 andhere's a reason...
On Sep 22, 10:02*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 08:01:51 -0700 (PDT), riverman wrote: On Sep 21, 10:16*pm, wrote: http://media.newsbusters.org/stories...lin-would-be-g.... With "celebs" like these, Obama doesn't need enemies... Sheesh, R So I guess Culture is lost on you, then? If that's how you define it, I hope so. *And where's your outrage at her actual racism? HTH, R :-) --riverman- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - She's a comedian, with a propensity for shock humor. I wouldn't call what she says 'racism' (or in this case, sexism or pro-semitism), I'd just call it bad humor. She is vile, that's for sure. --riverman |
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On Sep 22, 6:56*am, wrote:
Richard You know damn well that the National Republican party has a long and well documented history of tolerating and using closeted sexual deviants in electoral politics. Just look where Dick Morris has migrated to. You know who Roy Cohen was, who the hit group known as the "Rat ****ers" was, and you are certainly close enough to the rotted core of the GOP to know which Republican parties a straight or a straight laced person does not want to be invited to. And Im sure you have heard the statement that "the "Ds" go for the booze and the bimbos, the "Rs" go for the boy pages." I am pretty sure you also know that the RNC operatives who are called in especially to give a rascist or anti gay angle to tough elections in the South, have been of that closeted persuasion. One of the incredible victories of political info spin of the last 3 decades is the Republican party's ability to garner the "family values" banner, while harboring the majority of the most notorious congressional child molesters, philanderers and adulterers of our times. Between the ex-trotskyites magically transformed into "NeoConservatives," Roy Cohen's devil spawn, and just plain deviants, normal middle of the road, non fanatical Republicans have been driven out of the party. They have been replaced by massed fundamentalists looking for a way to feed at the trough, ideological woodenheads stuck in time, and folks who assume that the GOP is still the respectable moderate option it once was. I would bet you are aware of this stuff and more, yet you soldier on, maybe not really a true believer, but loyal to the end. Amazing. Dave |
It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...
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It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...
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It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 andhere's a reason...
On Sep 22, 1:41*pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
SNIP My issue is not men having sex with other men or women having sex with other women, There are few laws still on the books that put male/male flautists in jail JUST for that. The issue is public lewdness (wasn't that foot tapper caught soliciting in the Baltimore Airport this year a Republican Senator?) My issue isn't gay prostitution or hetero prostitution, my issue is the outrageous credentialing as a "journalist" of a gay male prostitute so he could come and go at the White house. This man's sexual specialty includes beating his clients while he wears USMC gear. Who was his client in the White house? Rowe, Cheney, a low level staffer? Why is the Whitehouse stonewalling this? How did he get around the President's security envelope? You were all about Clinton having to account for his blowjob: Maybe you hadn't heard about this so that's why you've said absolutely zip about it? Clinton was forced to answer before the whole country. Bush's White house refuses to testify or to obey subpoenas. I believe the law should apply to both Rs and Ds. You do too, right? Yep, Barney Frank is gay . . . and open about it so he probably can not be blackmailed for it. Stubbs was a D. You sure you want a list of molester Rs and resignations for involvement in sexual scandal? Maybe refresh folks on the molester ring in Bush 1 that included late night boy's tours of the White house? Nancy's hairdresser's overnight escapades in the Lincoln bedroom? Its the hypocrisy of insisting the Rs have the family values base covered that is wrong. Dave |
It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...
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It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...
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It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 andhere's a reason...
On Sep 22, 2:22*pm, wrote:
SNIP Of course there are lots of good people, charming Im sure. But not some grand discovery. I am talking about a nasty tumor on the Republican party. You avoided the question. The Republican Party has for a number of years put deviants and closeted gays to work on "dirty tricks" operations, "Rat ****er" operations, vote limitation projects targeting gays and Blacks, and from the activities of Roy Cohen years ago, up thru several Southern congressional campaigns, into the present including activities like the Maine "Phone jamming" case (They got caught and served time), the RNC and State R parties have continued to use such tactics, and that the McCain campaign has specifically stated that "no campaign tactic is off the table," despite the fact that some of these tactics were used by the RNC against McCain. I believe most people who have had some close political involvements, or who travel in circles I assume you might have encountered, are aware of what I am saying. I only raise this because you persist in posting one sided material, and never to my recall have you posted anything about R sex scandals, except denials, and as for the practice I speak of, never a word. Dave |
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It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 andhere's a reason...
On Sep 22, 3:19*pm, wrote:
And you still avoid the question. For someone who is aware of how this country works, admitting that the R "dirty trick" operations are largely staffed as I have described, should be as easy as admitting that the sky is blue. I do consider you to be informed of some of the realities of how certain aspects of our country really work. But you can not even admit that the rot at the heart of Republican politics even exists. We are not talking policy or ideological differences he I mean that serious deviancy, corruption, and criminal activities are an integral part of how that particular institution of political expression is operated. And NO, both parties do not operate like that. some bad crap in the past, not perfect, and frumpy, but today's Democratic Parties are a damnsite cleaner than the opposition. I cannot understand why some people are so loyal to this failed and foul ideological stew we are watching slowly die, even as it cripples future generations of our country. I think it would be next to impossible for them to vote Democratic no matter how badly the Republicans had managed the country. incurred debt, or abused the Constitution. Change is very hard for these folks. Dave |
It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...
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It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:12:37 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote: She's a comedian, with a propensity for shock humor. I wouldn't call what she says 'racism' (or in this case, sexism or pro-semitism), I'd just call it bad humor. Hmmm...I'd call suggesting that "black men" would be interested in, much less predisposed to, gang-raping someone pretty racist, but hey, YMMV...IAC, what's that when compared to someone merely mentioning the title of a record by a black man, right? And there ya are, R |
It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...
On 22 Sep 2008 14:17:52 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote: wrote in : If that's how you define it, I hope so. And where's your outrage at her actual racism? Why would I be outraged at anything Sandra Bernhardt says? Um, who said anything about you? I was responding to Myron... Is she running for something? Does she vote on anything? Does she represent anyone? Is she holding proxies, maybe? Don't know, don't care, and IAC, it doesn't matter. HTH, R |
It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 andhere's a reason...
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http://media.newsbusters.org/stories...acks-manhattan With "celebs" like these, Obama doesn't need enemies... Sheesh, R facinating web site too...perhaps a bit right of the birchers though, don't you think? jeezus, she's an outrageous, shock comedienne, who says and does some wicked stuff. that you find it meaningful in any way is kinda humorous. imo, she and you are simply jabbing at others' sensibilities...you for political sport, her for show (and income). jeff |
It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 andhere's a reason...
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It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:01:09 -0400, jeff miller
wrote: wrote: http://media.newsbusters.org/stories...acks-manhattan With "celebs" like these, Obama doesn't need enemies... Sheesh, R facinating web site too...perhaps a bit right of the birchers though, don't you think? jeezus, she's an outrageous, shock comedienne, who says and does some wicked stuff. that you find it meaningful in any way is kinda humorous. imo, she and you are simply jabbing at others' sensibilities...you for political sport, her for show (and income). Oh, I doubt she would or could influence the election very much if at all, but other more visible and "mainstream" celebs can and will. I don't find her act itself particularly meaningful, I find it indicative. And I'd offer that in many cases, the influence will be to drive more potential voters away from the candidate the celeb's pitch seems intended to support than folks it will convince to vote for them. TC, R jeff |
It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:20:30 -0400, jeff miller
wrote: wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:12:37 -0700 (PDT), riverman wrote: She's a comedian, with a propensity for shock humor. I wouldn't call what she says 'racism' (or in this case, sexism or pro-semitism), I'd just call it bad humor. Hmmm...I'd call suggesting that "black men" would be interested in, much less predisposed to, gang-raping someone pretty racist, but hey, YMMV...IAC, what's that when compared to someone merely mentioning the title of a record by a black man, right? And there ya are, R i wasn't offended or bothered by your relatively lame attempt at irony or satire (or whatever it was), anymore than i was at sandra b's brand of outrageous humor. an apparent right-wing provocateur, poking at us liberals and obama supporters by using a quotation containing the n-word isn't necessarily or always racist. ...and richard pryor ... well, of course, neither you nor sandra is richard pryor. but then, i'm not the most sophisticated, intuitive, or informed audience for such attempts by the not-richard-pryors either. What makes you so sure I'm "right-wing?" And that's a hint...you're a lawyer, and you should have learned about it first-year... TC, R jeff |
It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...
wrote in message ... On 22 Sep 2008 14:17:52 GMT, Scott Seidman wrote: wrote in m: If that's how you define it, I hope so. And where's your outrage at her actual racism? Why would I be outraged at anything Sandra Bernhardt says? Um, who said anything about you? I was responding to Myron... Is she running for something? Does she vote on anything? Does she represent anyone? Is she holding proxies, maybe? Don't know, don't care, and IAC, it doesn't matter. Thus explaining in terms that even you and the rest of the pez-heads here can understand, why you felt it was necessary to start this thread in the first place, ainna? Wolfgang |
It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...
wrote in message ... On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:20:30 -0400, jeff miller wrote: wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:12:37 -0700 (PDT), riverman wrote: She's a comedian, with a propensity for shock humor. I wouldn't call what she says 'racism' (or in this case, sexism or pro-semitism), I'd just call it bad humor. Hmmm...I'd call suggesting that "black men" would be interested in, much less predisposed to, gang-raping someone pretty racist, but hey, YMMV...IAC, what's that when compared to someone merely mentioning the title of a record by a black man, right? And there ya are, R i wasn't offended or bothered by your relatively lame attempt at irony or satire (or whatever it was), anymore than i was at sandra b's brand of outrageous humor. an apparent right-wing provocateur, poking at us liberals and obama supporters by using a quotation containing the n-word isn't necessarily or always racist. ...and richard pryor ... well, of course, neither you nor sandra is richard pryor. but then, i'm not the most sophisticated, intuitive, or informed audience for such attempts by the not-richard-pryors either. What makes you so sure I'm "right-wing?" And that's a hint...you're a lawyer, and you should have learned about it first-year... Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Wolfgang el mysterioso rides again.......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...
wrote in message ... On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:17:36 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 22, 6:56 am, wrote: Richard You know damn well that the National Republican party has a long and well documented history of tolerating and using closeted sexual deviants in electoral politics. Just look where Dick Morris has migrated to. You know who Roy Cohen was, who the hit group known as the "Rat ****ers" was, and you are certainly close enough to the rotted core of the GOP to know which Republican parties a straight or a straight laced person does not want to be invited to. And Im sure you have heard the statement that "the "Ds" go for the booze and the bimbos, the "Rs" go for the boy pages." I am pretty sure you also know that the RNC operatives who are called in especially to give a rascist or anti gay angle to tough elections in the South, have been of that closeted persuasion. One of the incredible victories of political info spin of the last 3 decades is the Republican party's ability to garner the "family values" banner, while harboring the majority of the most notorious congressional child molesters, philanderers and adulterers of our times. Between the ex-trotskyites magically transformed into "NeoConservatives," Roy Cohen's devil spawn, and just plain deviants, normal middle of the road, non fanatical Republicans have been driven out of the party. They have been replaced by massed fundamentalists looking for a way to feed at the trough, ideological woodenheads stuck in time, and folks who assume that the GOP is still the respectable moderate option it once was. I would bet you are aware of this stuff and more, yet you soldier on, maybe not really a true believer, but loyal to the end. Amazing. Um, what makes you think I'm a Republican (or for that matter, a Democrat)? OOOOOOH! MYSTERIOUS! IAC, I do know some folks in both parties, in office, out of office, and never ran for office, and I know of a whole lot more and neither party is free of hypocrites, liars, philanders, adulterers, alcoholics, drug users and abusers, racists, bigots, idiots, fools, damned good people, caring individuals who really want to do what's best, hard workers, ****heads, dip****s, and a whole further broad spectrum. In case you hadn't figured it out, such large political parties are made up of large numbers of actual people, and well, it's pretty easy to imagine what happens when you go and get actual people mixed up in things... Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Wolfgang who knows that if you're going to say the same thing over and over and over and over and over for year after year after year after year........shorter is sweeter. |
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On Sep 23, 7:04*pm, wrote:
what's that when compared to someone merely mentioning the title of a record by a black man, right? And there ya are, R Also vile, if you ask me. And if Sandra Bernhardt was a regular poster here, and posted such tripe, I'd tell her so. And I would expect her to drop the pretense of having not actually done anything wrong. But she, at least, is a professional comedian and being vile is her schtick. You, on the other hand, can continue to insist that you had no ulterior motive with your foolish post, and that you "merely posted the name of an album', but you insult us with your childish insistence that we must believe that. I deal with children all day, I don't need to do it here, too. --riverman |
It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 andhere's a reason...
riverman wrote:
... I deal with children all day, I don't need to do it here, too. NAHAY? |
It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 andhere's a reason...
riverman wrote:
wrote: what's that when compared to someone merely mentioning the title of a record by a black man, right? And there ya are, ... You, on the other hand, can continue to insist that you had no ulterior motive with your foolish post, and that you "merely posted the name of an album', but you insult us with your childish insistence that we must believe that. I deal with children all day, I don't need to do it here, too. LOL !! Well, that's Rick's latest story and by gawd he's gonna stick to it no matter how obviously childish and ludicrous. The first story was that he was trying to "shock us", as if anybody would think a Mississippi white boy introducing a link to Obama with a racial slur is shocking. Disgusting sure, but hardly shocking. I suppose if one were in a generous mood you could be shocked that Rick knew the title of a Richard Pryor album but I don't think that's the shock he was looking for. -- Ken Fortenberry |
It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 andhere's a reason...
On Sep 23, 12:18*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: riverman wrote: wrote: what's that when compared to someone merely mentioning the title of a record by a black man, right? And there ya are, ... You, on the other hand, can continue to insist that you had no ulterior motive with your foolish post, and that you "merely posted the name of an album', but you insult us with your childish insistence that we must believe that. I deal with children all day, I don't need to do it here, too. LOL !! Well, that's Rick's latest story and by gawd he's gonna stick to it no matter how obviously childish and ludicrous. The first story was that he was trying to "shock us", as if anybody would think a Mississippi white boy introducing a link to Obama with a racial slur is shocking. Mississippi doesn't have a damn thing to do with it. |
It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:53:57 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote: On Sep 23, 7:04*pm, wrote: what's that when compared to someone merely mentioning the title of a record by a black man, right? And there ya are, R Also vile, if you ask me. And if Sandra Bernhardt was a regular poster here, and posted such tripe, I'd tell her so. Um, you have a problem with people posting album titles? And if you think the titles are tripe, why comment to me about it - I had nothing to do with them. And I would expect her to drop the pretense of having not actually done anything wrong. But she, at least, is a professional comedian and being vile is her schtick. You, on the other hand, can continue to insist that you had no ulterior motive Oops, you're wrong yet again. I never even intimated, much less insisted, that I had no "ulterior motive." But having one doesn't make something wrong (or right). I had a motive and I stated it. And I didn't do "anything wrong" by any objective standard. The titles of many albums and songs have been posted to ROFF over the years, and to the best of my recollection, neither you or anyone else has objected. with your foolish post, and that you "merely posted the name of an album', OK. I'll ask again - please identify the language in my post where I called, labeled, or otherwise commented on or about Obama on anything. but you insult us with your childish insistence that we must believe that. Hey, I don't insist you do jack ****. But I'll say this - you can't show where I said _anything_ about Obama in that post because I purposefully didn't say _anything_. Your own racism and hypocrisy connected the two, not me. I deal with children all day, Birds of a feather, I take it... I don't need to do it here, too. Oh sure you do. HTH, R --riverman |
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wrote in message ... On Sep 23, 12:18 pm, Ken Fortenberry wrote: riverman wrote: wrote: what's that when compared to someone merely mentioning the title of a record by a black man, right? And there ya are, ... You, on the other hand, can continue to insist that you had no ulterior motive with your foolish post, and that you "merely posted the name of an album', but you insult us with your childish insistence that we must believe that. I deal with children all day, I don't need to do it here, too. LOL !! Well, that's Rick's latest story and by gawd he's gonna stick to it no matter how obviously childish and ludicrous. The first story was that he was trying to "shock us", as if anybody would think a Mississippi white boy introducing a link to Obama with a racial slur is shocking. Mississippi doesn't have a damn thing to do with it. You'll have to pardon kennie......his own racism, misogyny, bigotry and homophobia make it impossible for him to present a facade convincing to any but the most casual and ignorant reader. On the other hand, few can milk family and infirmity like he can! :) Wolfgang well, there's davie......but that's just one.....hardly negates "few." |
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wrote in message ... On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:53:57 -0700 (PDT), riverman wrote: On Sep 23, 7:04 pm, wrote: what's that when compared to someone merely mentioning the title of a record by a black man, right? And there ya are, R Also vile, if you ask me. And if Sandra Bernhardt was a regular poster here, and posted such tripe, I'd tell her so. Um, you have a problem with people posting album titles? And if you think the titles are tripe, why comment to me about it - I had nothing to do with them. And I would expect her to drop the pretense of having not actually done anything wrong. But she, at least, is a professional comedian and being vile is her schtick. You, on the other hand, can continue to insist that you had no ulterior motive Oops, you're wrong yet again. I never even intimated, much less insisted, that I had no "ulterior motive." But having one doesn't make something wrong (or right). I had a motive and I stated it. And I didn't do "anything wrong" by any objective standard. The titles of many albums and songs have been posted to ROFF over the years, and to the best of my recollection, neither you or anyone else has objected. with your foolish post, and that you "merely posted the name of an album', OK. I'll ask again - please identify the language in my post where I called, labeled, or otherwise commented on or about Obama on anything. but you insult us with your childish insistence that we must believe that. Hey, I don't insist you do jack ****. But I'll say this - you can't show where I said _anything_ about Obama in that post because I purposefully didn't say _anything_. Your own racism and hypocrisy connected the two, not me. I deal with children all day, Birds of a feather, I take it... I don't need to do it here, too. Oh sure you do. O.k., I guessed wrong. You're what?........9? Wolfgang and some of you STILL think this piece of ignorant filth is worthy of defending! :) |
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It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 andhere's a reason...
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:20:30 -0400, jeff miller wrote: wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:12:37 -0700 (PDT), riverman wrote: She's a comedian, with a propensity for shock humor. I wouldn't call what she says 'racism' (or in this case, sexism or pro-semitism), I'd just call it bad humor. Hmmm...I'd call suggesting that "black men" would be interested in, much less predisposed to, gang-raping someone pretty racist, but hey, YMMV...IAC, what's that when compared to someone merely mentioning the title of a record by a black man, right? And there ya are, R i wasn't offended or bothered by your relatively lame attempt at irony or satire (or whatever it was), anymore than i was at sandra b's brand of outrageous humor. an apparent right-wing provocateur, poking at us liberals and obama supporters by using a quotation containing the n-word isn't necessarily or always racist. ...and richard pryor ... well, of course, neither you nor sandra is richard pryor. but then, i'm not the most sophisticated, intuitive, or informed audience for such attempts by the not-richard-pryors either. What makes you so sure I'm "right-wing?" And that's a hint...you're a lawyer, and you should have learned about it first-year... TC, R jeff i admit i have no idea whether you are in fact right-wing. all i really know about you is what i perceive, rightly or wrongly, from your writings here...and, i have confessed to being less than an astute or intelligent audience. however, i trust you did not overlook my intentional use of the word "apparent". i doubt i'm alone among most here in perceiving the majority of your political and economic statements as having a "right-wing" tilt...anymore than i doubt you are alone in your belief that i should have learned more in my first year of law school...or life. look at the web site you posted for the sandra b. thing. even you ought to agree it is a "right-wing" site...and probably far on the right. you seem to enjoy using articles and statements gleaned from such places...so, you have an appearance of a certain characteristic. contrary to some others, i did not mean it as a slander...some of my best friends are right-wing republicans. G jeff |
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:01:09 -0400, jeff miller wrote: wrote: http://media.newsbusters.org/stories...acks-manhattan With "celebs" like these, Obama doesn't need enemies... Sheesh, R facinating web site too...perhaps a bit right of the birchers though, don't you think? jeezus, she's an outrageous, shock comedienne, who says and does some wicked stuff. that you find it meaningful in any way is kinda humorous. imo, she and you are simply jabbing at others' sensibilities...you for political sport, her for show (and income). Oh, I doubt she would or could influence the election very much if at all, but other more visible and "mainstream" celebs can and will. I don't find her act itself particularly meaningful, I find it indicative. And I'd offer that in many cases, the influence will be to drive more potential voters away from the candidate the celeb's pitch seems intended to support than folks it will convince to vote for them. TC, R jeff why search and cite the lowest of celebs and web sites in support of your claim? heck, you've got matt damon, tommy smothers, and barbara s to work with! G Frankly, I think only a small percentage of voters haven't yet made up their minds, and they are the ones who will decide this thing. I have no frickin idea what will motivate their votes, but i won't be surprised if it's something stupid or knee-jerk. I'm with Maher on this one - our voters are a scary crowd of folks in their decision-making process. jeff |
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It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:22:07 -0400, Jeff wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:20:30 -0400, jeff miller wrote: wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:12:37 -0700 (PDT), riverman wrote: She's a comedian, with a propensity for shock humor. I wouldn't call what she says 'racism' (or in this case, sexism or pro-semitism), I'd just call it bad humor. Hmmm...I'd call suggesting that "black men" would be interested in, much less predisposed to, gang-raping someone pretty racist, but hey, YMMV...IAC, what's that when compared to someone merely mentioning the title of a record by a black man, right? And there ya are, R i wasn't offended or bothered by your relatively lame attempt at irony or satire (or whatever it was), anymore than i was at sandra b's brand of outrageous humor. an apparent right-wing provocateur, poking at us liberals and obama supporters by using a quotation containing the n-word isn't necessarily or always racist. ...and richard pryor ... well, of course, neither you nor sandra is richard pryor. but then, i'm not the most sophisticated, intuitive, or informed audience for such attempts by the not-richard-pryors either. What makes you so sure I'm "right-wing?" And that's a hint...you're a lawyer, and you should have learned about it first-year... TC, R jeff i admit i have no idea whether you are in fact right-wing. all i really know about you is what i perceive, rightly or wrongly, from your writings here...and, i have confessed to being less than an astute or intelligent audience. however, i trust you did not overlook my intentional use of the word "apparent". i doubt i'm alone among most here in perceiving the majority of your political and economic statements as having a "right-wing" tilt...anymore than i doubt you are alone in your belief that i should have learned more in my first year of law school...or life. Oh, geezus. I didn't say you SHOULD have learned more in your first year of law school. I said you DID learn about what I was hinting at: ask questions at the appropriate time - you know, like before you assume your client wasn't found standing over the body with a smoking .38 screaming "HOW DID YOU LIKE THAT, MOFO?!?!" and you find out he was when the prosecutor asks him about it in front of the jury. I find it startling that most folks around here never say, "I'm not sure what you mean by that, so rather than ask, I'll just assume..." Is that enough of a ****ing hint? Oh, OK, for the terminally-serious - G... look at the web site you posted for the sandra b. thing. even you ought to agree it is a "right-wing" site No, I ought not agree with that...well, maybe I ought to, but I won't because I cannot...because until I heard about what she said and Googled it, with that being the first hit, I had never heard of the site and know nothing about it. I read that one story, moved on to a couple of other hits, and haven't been back to it. But if you and Dave S. say it is, I'll take your word for it. IAC, I don't see what the political leaning of the site, if any, would have to do with the things she said and whoever/whatever quoted as saying. Heck, it had a link to a YouTube video, so I doubt there was much room to twist her words one way or the other. ...and probably far on the right. you seem to enjoy using articles and statements gleaned from such places...so, you have an appearance of a certain characteristic. contrary to some others, i did not mean it as a slander...some of my best friends are right-wing republicans. G I'd offer that more of the things I post come from the "major news outlets" (CNN, networks, AP, Reuters, etc.) than any other source. I'd not call any of those "far on the right," but YMMV. If I post something from a source such as whatever site the Sandra Bernhard piece was from, chances are it was among the first Google hits on something I heard about. I have no idea if Google leans right or left. TC, R jeff |
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