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Sarah Palin finally took questions on Tuesday from her traveling
press corps on her campaign plane. Asked if she thought Senator Obama was dishonest (about Ayers, apparently, but who knows?), “I’m not saying he’s dishonest, but in terms of judgment, in terms of being able to answer a question forthrightly, it has two different parts to this. The judgment and the truthfulness and just being able to answer very candidly a simple question about when did you know him, how did you know him, is there still — has there been an association continued since ’02 or ’05, I know I’ve read a couple different stories. I think it’s relevant.” g - JR |
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:01:50 -0400, JR wrote:
Sarah Palin finally took questions on Tuesday from her traveling press corps on her campaign plane. Asked if she thought Senator Obama was dishonest (about Ayers, apparently, but who knows?), “I’m not saying he’s dishonest, but in terms of judgment, in terms of being able to answer a question forthrightly, it has two different parts to this. The judgment and the truthfulness and just being able to answer very candidly a simple question about when did you know him, how did you know him, is there still — has there been an association continued since ’02 or ’05, I know I’ve read a couple different stories. I think it’s relevant.” g - JR Um, OK. So what, in your opinion, is particularly amusing or wrong with her answer? TC, R |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:01:50 -0400, JR wrote: Sarah Palin finally took questions on Tuesday from her traveling press corps on her campaign plane. Asked if she thought Senator Obama was dishonest (about Ayers, apparently, but who knows?), "I'm not saying he's dishonest, but in terms of judgment, in terms of being able to answer a question forthrightly, it has two different parts to this. The judgment and the truthfulness and just being able to answer very candidly a simple question about when did you know him, how did you know him, is there still - has there been an association continued since '02 or '05, I know I've read a couple different stories. I think it's relevant." g - JR Um, OK. So what, in your opinion, is particularly amusing or wrong with her answer? TC, R richard, i swear, you just won't do. your response just tickles the hell out of me (as they say down in rowan county). truth is, if you could collect a similar statement from sen. obama, you would be dismantling the damn thing on roff for a minimum of three hours, daily, ad infinitum. politics aside, the lady is simply an utter failure in her efforts to use the english language as a method of communication. yfitons wayno |
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Wayne Harrison wrote:
terms of being able to answer a question forthrightly, it has two Um, OK. So what, in your opinion, is particularly amusing or wrong with her answer? TC, R richard, i swear, you just won't do. your response just tickles the hell out of me (as they say down in rowan county). truth is, if you could collect a similar statement from sen. obama, you would be dismantling the damn thing on roff for a minimum of three hours, daily, ad infinitum. politics aside, the lady is simply an utter failure in her efforts to use the english language as a method of communication. yfitons wayno yeah, there is that, but i reckon the milf-voters don't really care whether she can speak... jeff |
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On Oct 10, 8:26*am, "Wayne Harrison" wrote:
R richard, i swear, you just won't do. *your response just tickles the hell out of me (as they say down in rowan county). truth is, if you could collect a similar statement from sen. obama, you would be dismantling the damn thing on roff for a minimum of three hours, daily, ad infinitum. *politics aside, the lady is simply an utter failure in her efforts to use the english language as a method of communication. yfitons wayno- Hide quoted text - Ditto on Wayne's comment. And . . . Richard, Alaskan politics and corruption make your part of the country and NJ where I started look if not squeaky clean, at least not in the basement. That, and her fibs, not just her words per se, is what gives the belly laughs in the NW to her candidacy. Sarah as a "reformer?" All things are relative but Sarah, or frankly any Alaska politician of the last few decades, are walking ethical time bombs, D or R. The process of building up a Resource/Govt largess based State has always been messy. Words like "conflict of interest" and "conservative" just do not have the same meaning up there. Folks who don't know that may know Alaska from the tour ships but not much else. Alaskans as a group are some great people, and fun, and Alaskan women are in a class by themselves if one appreciates strong, athletic women as I do. But clean politics? NFW. She is getting a bad wrap on some of the regional speech patterns. Folks in the PNW say "You Betcha" all the time. And "fer sure," and some Chinook jargon words like "skookum" etc, sometimes we use flat Native American inflections and word order, and lots of hard "R"s etc.. That is how we often talk to one another and I would guess that she is a bit more that way because she hasn't traveled much out of the PNW. But who ever came up with Palin, whoever was supposed to vett her for the Rs, deserves to be shot by the Rs. And on her and her husband's ultimate ethical demise . . . I will give odds for a modest bet. Dave The days of drunk 14 year old Native American prostitutes rolling around in the bar floor sawdust of Juneau during the legislative session/cum Mardi gras, may be over, but crooks still abound in the Chambers who rue the little progress thats been made. |
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unications, Wayne Harrison writes politics aside, the lady is simply an utter failure in her efforts to use the english language as a method of communication. Now /that/ I understand ! -- Bill Grey |
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:26:26 -0400, "Wayne Harrison"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:01:50 -0400, JR wrote: Sarah Palin finally took questions on Tuesday from her traveling press corps on her campaign plane. Asked if she thought Senator Obama was dishonest (about Ayers, apparently, but who knows?), "I'm not saying he's dishonest, but in terms of judgment, in terms of being able to answer a question forthrightly, it has two different parts to this. The judgment and the truthfulness and just being able to answer very candidly a simple question about when did you know him, how did you know him, is there still - has there been an association continued since '02 or '05, I know I've read a couple different stories. I think it's relevant." g - JR Um, OK. So what, in your opinion, is particularly amusing or wrong with her answer? TC, R richard, i swear, you just won't do. your response just tickles the hell out of me (as they say down in rowan county). truth is, if you could collect a similar statement from sen. obama, you would be dismantling the damn thing on roff for a minimum of three hours, daily, ad infinitum. I disagree. I've defended both Dems and GOPers for gaffs that were blown WAY out of proportion by the media and/or the opposition. Is her statement as eloquent as it could be? Nope. Do I understand what she is trying to communicate? Yes. Do I think that you and others understand what she is trying to communicate? Yes. And besides, nobody has been able to get an answer, eloquent or otherwise, out of Obama about Ayers to dismantle, anyway... politics aside, the lady is simply an utter failure in her efforts to use the english language as a method of communication. Well, granted, she isn't a lawyer or used-car salesman or Alan Greenspan or something...yeah, yeah, yeah, I know - it depends on what the meaning of "isn't," isn't... yfitons wayno And I know you've read enough depos to know that often, a transcript of the depo of a generally-eloquent person often does not eloquently convey what those present clearly understood as being conveyed. Here's the answer: "I expected that at some stage we'd have to give it. Now, I'm not sure that we expected that it would come up in the way that it did. But it was unrealistic to anticipate that, during the course of this campaign, if not now then certainly in the general election, that this was not going to be an issue that had to be addressed. But it's nothing that's going to be unique to the next presidency. It's been something that presidents throughout our history have or have not dealt with, but it's always been there. " Guess the question and the person being questioned - was it Palin on the economy or McCain on "The Keating 5?" NOTE- the next presidency was substituted for a word that would provide a clue to the identity of the speaker YFCITGS, R ....or was neither, but rather, Obama when asked if Rev. Wright and his race was going to be an issue in the campaign |
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On Oct 12, 1:05*pm, wrote:
Fairness Hmmmm. So, what do you think of the campaign the Dark Ops branch or the RNC has been running for a year now in Southern Florida, targeting elderly Jewish registered Democrats with anti Obama messages saying that he is an Arab, a secret Muslim, and a Jew hater, who plans to destroy Israel? Do you think the Justice Department should be looking into this "anonymous" campaign? Dave |
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:31:16 -0700 (PDT), DaveS
wrote: On Oct 12, 1:05*pm, wrote: Fairness Hmmmm. So, what do you think of the campaign the Dark Ops branch or the RNC has been running for a year now in Southern Florida, targeting elderly Jewish registered Democrats with anti Obama messages saying that he is an Arab, a secret Muslim, and a Jew hater, who plans to destroy Israel? Do you think the Justice Department should be looking into this "anonymous" campaign? Yes. They spend too much time talking to nappy-headed Nazi homo hos about their boyfriends, anyway... I'd suggest you give Special Agent Vlasic a call post haste...tell him you've got a bit of a pickle for him...Kosher, that is... HTH, R Dave |
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On Oct 12, 2:44*pm, wrote:
You avoid the question. This dirty campaign is a major element in the set of Republican darkside projects targeted on this election cycle. The opposing effort is the "Schlepping to Florida" effort led by, of all people Sarah SIlverstein, the dirty mouthed comedienne. Today was a kickoff day for younger voters to contact their Florida resident registered Democrat Jewish parents and Grandparents, and counter the Republican financed campaign spreading tales that Obama is an Arab, secret Muslim, Jew hater, who wants to destroy Israel. The racist Republican campaign is estimated to have influenced the vote of about 12% of their elderly Jewish targets so far. The hate campaign has been operating for about a year now, pretty much under the radar, and the Democratic response is just getting tooled up. Sarah scares me. Supposedly the anti-Obama hate campaign is "anonymous," but that is a joke. Except for a short period after Nixon, the Republican Party has maintained a permanent set of dirty project contractors. Funding usually is well hidden with a few notable exposures such as Tom Delay's "youth charity" fund, exposed when he tried to also use it for funding some gala parties at the 2004 convention. Pieces of the Abramoff payoffs appear to have ended up in some of the dirty projects targeted on reducing African American voting, and over the years funds from techically legal right-wing operatives like those of Richard Mellon Scaife and groups like the Coors foundations have made it onto the filings of cut-out groups thought to fund racist and voter intimidation projects designed to help Republican candidates, or hurt Democrats. I do not think that John McCain likes the racist parts of these projects but he wants to win and the dirty projects are what's given the GOP the winning margins in many elections. I also believe that most State and local Republican Parties do not have dirty tricks groups or projects. I do believe that the majority of this activity is directed at the national level, from the RNC, with a very good system of cut-outs and fronts to confuse their origins. One rumor has it that one of the contractors on the Jewish Elderly Democrat project in Florida has inadvertently hired some KKK figures, or a KKK data base or some dastardly thing like that. Sounds like wishful thinking to me. With any luck this thing will blow up in the RNC's face, but so far they are winning the dirty wars. Watch Florida. As near as I can tell, the Democratic Party has nothing to compare to the Republican Darkside (sometimes referred to as "the rat****ers" in the old days), But I sometimes wished the Democrats did. Dave |
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On Oct 13, 8:29*am, DaveS wrote:
On Oct 12, 2:44*pm, wrote: You avoid the question. This dirty campaign is a major element in the set of Republican darkside projects targeted on this election cycle. The opposing effort is the "Schlepping to Florida" effort led by, of all people Sarah SIlverstein, the dirty mouthed comedienne. Today was a kickoff day for younger voters to contact their Florida resident registered Democrat Jewish parents and Grandparents, and counter the Republican financed campaign spreading tales that Obama is an Arab, secret Muslim, Jew hater, who wants to destroy Israel. The racist Republican campaign is estimated to have influenced the vote of about 12% of their elderly Jewish targets so far. The hate campaign has been operating for about a year now, pretty much under the radar, and the Democratic response is just getting tooled up. Sarah scares me. Supposedly the anti-Obama hate campaign is "anonymous," but that is a joke. Except for a short period after Nixon, the Republican Party has maintained a permanent set of dirty project contractors. Funding usually is well hidden with a few notable exposures such as Tom Delay's "youth charity" fund, *exposed when he tried to also use it for funding some gala parties at the 2004 convention. Pieces of the Abramoff payoffs appear to have ended up in some of the dirty projects targeted on reducing African American voting, and over the years funds from techically legal right-wing operatives like those of Richard Mellon Scaife and groups like the Coors foundations have made it onto the filings of cut-out groups thought to fund racist and voter intimidation projects designed to help Republican candidates, or hurt Democrats. I do not think that John McCain likes the racist parts of these projects but he wants to win and the dirty projects are what's given the GOP the winning margins in many elections. I also believe that most State and local Republican Parties do not have dirty tricks groups or projects. I do believe that the majority of this activity is directed at the national level, from the RNC, with a very good system of cut-outs and fronts to confuse their origins. One rumor has it that one of the contractors on the Jewish Elderly Democrat project in Florida has inadvertently hired some KKK figures, or a KKK data base or some dastardly thing like that. Sounds like wishful thinking to me. With any luck this thing will blow up in the RNC's face, but so far they are winning the dirty wars. Watch Florida. As near as I can tell, the Democratic Party has nothing to compare to the Republican Darkside (sometimes referred to as "the rat****ers" in the old days), But I sometimes wished the Democrats did. Dave The world is full of nasty ****s and nutcases, just as this newsgroup has people like you, Fortenberry, LaCourse, et al. You use anything you see fit, including lies, total rubbish like weird sexual fantasies, and other nasty propaganda, to upset, insult, and defame people. So when you complain about others doing it, normal sensible people just laugh at you. Along with others here, you forfeited any right, or chance, to be taken seriously when you started misbehaving. Although it appears that you are too stupid to realise that. It makes no difference at all what you write now, as people know what you are. |
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On Oct 13, 2:29*am, DaveS wrote:
On Oct 12, 2:44*pm, wrote: You avoid the question. This dirty campaign is a major element in the set of Republican darkside projects targeted on this election cycle. The opposing effort is the "Schlepping to Florida" effort led by, of all people Sarah SIlverstein, the dirty mouthed comedienne. Today was a kickoff day for younger voters to contact their Florida resident registered Democrat Jewish parents and Grandparents, and counter the Republican financed campaign spreading tales that Obama is an Arab, secret Muslim, Jew hater, who wants to destroy Israel. The racist Republican campaign is estimated to have influenced the vote of about 12% of their elderly Jewish targets so far. The hate campaign has been operating for about a year now, pretty much under the radar, and the Democratic response is just getting tooled up. Sarah scares me. Supposedly the anti-Obama hate campaign is "anonymous," but that is a joke. Except for a short period after Nixon, the Republican Party has maintained a permanent set of dirty project contractors. Funding usually is well hidden with a few notable exposures such as Tom Delay's "youth charity" fund, *exposed when he tried to also use it for funding some gala parties at the 2004 convention. Pieces of the Abramoff payoffs appear to have ended up in some of the dirty projects targeted on reducing African American voting, and over the years funds from techically legal right-wing operatives like those of Richard Mellon Scaife and groups like the Coors foundations have made it onto the filings of cut-out groups thought to fund racist and voter intimidation projects designed to help Republican candidates, or hurt Democrats. I do not think that John McCain likes the racist parts of these projects but he wants to win and the dirty projects are what's given the GOP the winning margins in many elections. I also believe that most State and local Republican Parties do not have dirty tricks groups or projects. I do believe that the majority of this activity is directed at the national level, from the RNC, with a very good system of cut-outs and fronts to confuse their origins. One rumor has it that one of the contractors on the Jewish Elderly Democrat project in Florida has inadvertently hired some KKK figures, or a KKK data base or some dastardly thing like that. Sounds like wishful thinking to me. With any luck this thing will blow up in the RNC's face, but so far they are winning the dirty wars. Watch Florida. As near as I can tell, the Democratic Party has nothing to compare to the Republican Darkside (sometimes referred to as "the rat****ers" in the old days), But I sometimes wished the Democrats did. Dave .... and then there is Andy Martin: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/us...martin.html?hp |
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: ... and then there is Andy Martin: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/us...martin.html?hp You hear about whack jobs who are too crazy to be admitted to the Bar, but you rarely hear from them. -- Scott Reverse name to reply |
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On Oct 13, 8:11*am, Scott Seidman wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/us...martin.html?hp You hear about whack jobs who are too crazy to be admitted to the Bar, but you rarely hear from them. * -- Scott Reverse name to reply To top it off, RNC Dirty tricks operative Andy Martin is systematically harassing Obama's sick 84 year old grandmother. Of course McCain isn't doing it, and Im sure he would mechanically decry it if it were made more widely public, and Im sure that the money that pays Martin for this project, as for many of his more overtly racist and anti-Semitic projects in the past would be very difficult to trace. But the whole political class knows who Martin is, the kind of racist dirty tricks he offers for sale, and who he works for. The folks who contribute to the RNC doubtless are unsuspecting of how some of their money goes to undermining Democracy in this great country of ours. Dave |
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On Oct 13, 6:45*pm, DaveS wrote:
On Oct 13, 8:11*am, Scott Seidman wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/us...martin.html?hp You hear about whack jobs who are too crazy to be admitted to the Bar, but you rarely hear from them. * -- Scott Reverse name to reply To top it off, RNC Dirty tricks operative Andy Martin is systematically harassing Obama's sick 84 year old grandmother. Of course McCain isn't doing it, and Im sure he would mechanically decry it if it were made more widely public, and Im sure that the money that pays Martin for this project, as for many of his more overtly racist and anti-Semitic projects in the past would be very difficult to trace. But the whole political class knows who Martin is, the kind of racist dirty tricks he offers for sale, and who he works for. The folks who contribute to the RNC doubtless are unsuspecting of how some of their money goes to undermining Democracy in this great country of ours. Dave I doubt that the RNC or anyone connected with it would pay Martin: I suspect that there would always be the fear that he is unstable enough to turn on them. Guys like the swiftboaters are more reliable. |
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On Oct 13, 6:09*pm, "
wrote: Dave I doubt that the RNC or anyone connected with it would pay Martin: I suspect that there would always be the fear that he is unstable enough to turn on them. *Guys like the swiftboaters are more reliable.- Hide quoted text - There are always cut-outs between Martin and his funders. He is a crazy fox. And he does occasionally bite his handlers. But the damage he inflicts is usually in one direction. Just look at how long Martin has been in this business and try to figure out where his funding support comes from. And reliability comes in many flavors: Martin has been a very reliable anti-Semite. That the South Florida project to intimidate elderly Jewish registered Democrats is part of a Rove designed campaign, that Rove is working for the McCain campaign, and that Martin is a leading player are not in question. But I would not bet that Martin's funding can be traced to the RNC. If I were guessing I'd look first at the Coors front groups, but I do not actually who his money conduit is. Dave |
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