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Larry L October 22nd, 2008 04:29 PM

San Juan
 
I'm looking for a winter trip .... any good websites for info on the San
Juan?

Is it all nymphing in Winter? is it as crowded as I've heard?

other suggestions for Winter FFing? in the West



rw October 22nd, 2008 05:13 PM

San Juan
 
Larry L wrote:
I'm looking for a winter trip .... any good websites for info on the San
Juan?

Is it all nymphing in Winter? is it as crowded as I've heard?

other suggestions for Winter FFing? in the West



It isn't ALL nymphing, but it's mostly nymphing. Take lots of midge
nymphs. San Juan worms, eggs, and chamois leeches are very effective.

It isn't as crowded in the winter, but it's still too crowded for my taste.

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DaveS October 22nd, 2008 07:23 PM

ON TOPIC: San Juan River in Winter
 
On Oct 22, 9:13*am, rw wrote:

Sorting
Dave


[email protected] October 22nd, 2008 07:30 PM

San Juan
 
On Oct 22, 9:29 am, "Larry L" wrote:
I'm looking for a winter trip .... any good websites for info on the San
Juan?


RW is right, and from your descriptions of yourself it doesn't sound
like the type of fishing you enjoy. But I could be wrong, and if you
need a fish fix and decide to come down, give me a heads up. Who
knows?

Jon.

rw October 22nd, 2008 09:47 PM

San Juan
 
rw wrote:
Larry L wrote:

I'm looking for a winter trip .... any good websites for info on the
San Juan?

Is it all nymphing in Winter? is it as crowded as I've heard?

other suggestions for Winter FFing? in the West


It isn't ALL nymphing, but it's mostly nymphing. Take lots of midge
nymphs. San Juan worms, eggs, and chamois leeches are very effective.

It isn't as crowded in the winter, but it's still too crowded for my taste.


Also, if you go to the San Juan, a short trip to the Animas (around
Durango, CO) is worthwhile.

I've been searching my limited knowledge to come up with a good winter
destination for trout for you, and I'm coming up empty. Maybe New
Zealand? :-)

I've heard on good authority that the Provo in Utah is good in the
winter, but I have no first-hand knowledge about it.

Silver Creek, which you know well, is gorgeous in the winter and
sometimes fishes decently, but no hatches to speak of that I've seen.
Duck hunting is very popular, though.

My fishing is on hold for awhile. No winter trip this year, unless
something irresistible comes up. I'm getting in shape for the XC ski season.

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Larry L October 23rd, 2008 06:07 PM

San Juan
 

"rw" wrote


I've been searching my limited knowledge to come up with a good winter
destination for trout for you, and I'm coming up empty. Maybe New Zealand?
:-)


I've completed two of the three levels available of RosettaStone Spanish and
am still dreaming of Patagonia ... but .... I hate airplanes and it's 18
hours or something down there .... same for NZ ... add the obvious cost
factor and it ain't going to be this year, as we watch the stock part of our
retirement plummet temporarily


I've heard on good authority that the Provo in Utah is good in the winter,
but I have no first-hand knowledge about it.


Actually California has pretty good fishing available, if you're willing to
stoop to nymphing ;-) .... I see that even my 5 miles from here local
water made it big and hit the cover of a FF mag recently. But, as you amd
most fishermen know, the 'trip' is often the more important word in 'fishing
trip'



Silver Creek, which you know well, is gorgeous in the winter and sometimes
fishes decently, but no hatches to speak of that I've seen. Duck hunting
is very popular, though.


I 'think' it follows the Idaho state general season and is closed in Winter
??? BTW, I was there this June for three weeks and hit the start of the
Brown Drakes ... an experience, for sure



DaveS October 23rd, 2008 09:30 PM

ON TOPIC: San Juan River in Winter
 
On Oct 23, 10:07*am, "Larry L" wrote:
Over the years Ive read about the Russian and fishing for steelhead in
the other classic Northern California rivers, in the Winter. Is that
fishery dead or is it still a worthwhile thing to do?

Dave

Larry L October 23rd, 2008 10:07 PM

ON TOPIC: San Juan River in Winter
 

"DaveS" wrote in message
...
On Oct 23, 10:07 am, "Larry L" wrote:
Over the years Ive read about the Russian and fishing for steelhead in
the other classic Northern California rivers, in the Winter. Is that
fishery dead or is it still a worthwhile thing to do?

Dave


I have never tried to fish for steelhead ... although, ( as they are legally
defined here in Arnoldland ) I've caught a couple on the accidental

I've talked to guys about it and, to my taste, it sounds deadly boring

As for the health of our rivers ...

they ALL are dying

I'm sure I'll be corrected and informed, but as I write this I don't know af
a single fishery in the West that isn't in trouble ... varying degrees, of
course, but all are on the noticable decline




rw October 23rd, 2008 10:10 PM

San Juan
 
Larry L wrote:

Silver Creek, which you know well, is gorgeous in the winter and sometimes
fishes decently, but no hatches to speak of that I've seen. Duck hunting
is very popular, though.



I 'think' it follows the Idaho state general season and is closed in Winter
??? BTW, I was there this June for three weeks and hit the start of the
Brown Drakes ... an experience, for sure


It's open through November 30, which is definitely winter in Stanley.
:-) I've done well with mahogany duns on Silver Creek in November.

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[email protected] October 23rd, 2008 10:36 PM

ON TOPIC: San Juan River in Winter
 
On Oct 23, 3:07 pm, "Larry L" wrote:

As for the health of our rivers ...
they ALL are dying


Your comment reminded me of the fears of escaped atlantic salmon
taking over pacific habitat, but I couldn't find anything on the web
more recent than 2001. Has this issue subsided? Stabilized? Usually,
if invasive species are going to be a threat they balloon real fast in
the early years. If the atlantic salmon aren't doing this, then maybe
the pacific is different enough that they'll be no more than a minor
nuisance.

Where's Ralph when we need him?

Jon.

Tim Lysyk October 24th, 2008 01:34 AM

ON TOPIC: San Juan River in Winter
 
wrote:
On Oct 23, 3:07 pm, "Larry L" wrote:
As for the health of our rivers ...
they ALL are dying


Your comment reminded me of the fears of escaped atlantic salmon
taking over pacific habitat, but I couldn't find anything on the web
more recent than 2001. Has this issue subsided? Stabilized? Usually,
if invasive species are going to be a threat they balloon real fast in
the early years. If the atlantic salmon aren't doing this, then maybe
the pacific is different enough that they'll be no more than a minor
nuisance.

Where's Ralph when we need him?

Jon.


There was a large escapement earlier this year. See
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...on-escape.html

There has been some indication of Altantic salmon succesfully spawning
in rivers fo Vancouver Island a few years ago. There has been some work
done, but I forget by who and when.


Tim Lysyk

Charlie S. October 30th, 2008 10:43 PM

San Juan
 
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:29:17 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

I'm looking for a winter trip .... any good websites for info on the San
Juan?

Is it all nymphing in Winter? is it as crowded as I've heard?

other suggestions for Winter FFing? in the West


If you don't require natives, Texas stocks rainbows during the winter
months (begins in mid-/late-November) in lots of rivers and community
ponds.

It's not like fishing the Madison, but it's better than nothing and
all the fish are adults (no babies). They mostly have a 5 fish a day
limit.

Check it out:
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/fishboat...ment/stocking/


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