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Please reply ( to the whole group ) ONE time to this post if you read it
.... a blank reply is fine

I'm simply curious how many people might still actually be here ... since
only about 8 every post anything


use an alias if you don't want anyone to know you're here G

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"Larry L" wrote in message
...
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... a blank reply is fine

I'm simply curious how many people might still actually be here ... since
only about 8 every post anything


use an alias if you don't want anyone to know you're here G

Sorting,
JT ;)

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Larry L wrote:
Please reply ( to the whole group ) ONE time to this post if you read it
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Larry, you posted a recommendation of bird dog training books
some time back. Could you reprise that please ?

I had an incredible bit of luck today. I talked to the lady
who owns a private hunting preserve 20 minutes south of here
in Tolono. She shut it down two seasons ago when she had to
have surgery to remove a tumor. Me and exactly 8 other guys
can use the place, clubhouse, sporting clays course, pheasant
everywhere, for $100 apiece a year (her insurance costs).

So I've got about 8,000 acres of corn fields, seed lots, marsh
and the Embarras River to boot all to myself practically any
time I want. We all call first so only one person is on the
property at a time.

Kaylin and I took the grand tour today. This is going to be a
*great* place to train my puppy.

--
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:03:12 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

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use an alias if you don't want anyone to know you're here G


Hi. :-)

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On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:03:12 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

use an alias if you don't want anyone to know you're here G

Louie is here.

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here I am.
Tom

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"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
...

here I am.
Tom

Don't tell anyone, but yes I'm still here.
Op

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Larry L wrote:

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just for you larry...

jeff

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Mr Opus McDopus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Tom Littleton" wrote

here I am.

Don't tell anyone, but yes I'm still here.

Me too.

Though it's likely I won't be posting much until the effing
election is over.....

- JR

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Larry L wrote:
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Hi Larry.

Tim Lysyk

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Larry L wrote:
Please reply ( to the whole group ) ONE time to this post if you
read it ... a blank reply is fine

I'm simply curious how many people might still actually be here ...
since only about 8 every post anything


use an alias if you don't want anyone to know you're here G

I'm not in right now, but I'll be back on Nov. 5.
--
--
Best regards,
Tim

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Tim J. wrote:
Larry L wrote:
Please reply ( to the whole group ) ONE time to this post if you
read it ... a blank reply is fine

I'm simply curious how many people might still actually be here ...
since only about 8 every post anything


use an alias if you don't want anyone to know you're here G

I'm not in right now, but I'll be back on Nov. 5.

FWIW, Comcast dropped their Usenet server about a week ago.
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TL,
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On Oct 31, 5:03*pm, "Larry L" wrote:
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I'm still here!

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Here

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..


"Larry L" wrote in message
...
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here.

--
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(change bgzqsdq to charter to reply)
..


"Larry L" wrote in message
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only about 8 every post anything


use an alias if you don't want anyone to know you're here G

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On Oct 31, 5:03*pm, "Larry L" wrote:
Please reply ( to the whole group *) ONE time to this post if you read it
... a blank reply is fine

I'm simply curious how many people might still actually be here ... since
only about 8 every post anything

use an alias if you don't want anyone to know you're here G

Hey Larry, how goes? I'm not in at the moment, but if you leave a
message at the sound of the beep, I'll make sure to get back to you
fishing rod and beer in hand.
Frank Reid

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--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 06:26:06 -0700, rw
wrote:




--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Without a doubt, the perfect example of your typical thinking...

HTH,
R

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On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 00:36:23 -0500, "Bob Patton"
wrote:

here.

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Bob Patton
(change bgzqsdq to charter to reply)
.

You can't vote twice, Bob. You are only "here" once.
d;o)

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On Oct 31, 5:03�pm, "Larry L" wrote:
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I'm simply curious how many people might still actually be here ... since
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use an alias if you don't want anyone to know you're here G

I'm here once in a while, used to post a bit. Ken, what kind of
dog? I field trial/hunt pointing dogs and spaniels. And I've hunted
Labs. Let me know and I'll recommend something. You can email me at


Harry

PS My wife has a big farm near Havana. Lots of deer, not much else.
Well, deer ticks too. :-)

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Oops. Just voting early and often . . . :-)

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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 00:36:23 -0500, "Bob Patton"
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here.

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(change bgzqsdq to charter to reply)
.

You can't vote twice, Bob. You are only "here" once.
d;o)

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"Larry L" wrote in
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use an alias if you don't want anyone to know you're here G




ping!

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote


The new pup is a yellow Lab. I'm going to train her for upland
work first then water retrieving later.

Thanks.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Ken, I don't really have a book suggestion

Mostly deciding what you really want ( in detail ) is the hard part ... the
rest is just common sense and some creativity ( I've trained hundreds and no
two exactly the same way ... the curriculum remains the same, the methods
vary, like all good teaching G)

One thing to ponder

What separates a good hunting dog from a great one ... you've already
(hopefully ) taken care of ... the desire that came from mom and dad ( not
to fuel the $1500 dog wars again, but all dogs are NOT created equal ;-)
The dogs that will grow into one that will challenge the berry vines to
pursue a bird are born with that potential, it's not a man made thing past
the decision of who to breed to whom ... no amount of 'training' wan put
that desire into one when it's lacking.

BUT, what separates the good hunting dog from the useless or worse ... is
discipline ... In other words a dog that comes when called, regardless,
sits when told, regardless, etc etc ... can be great IF he got the right
genes and will be at least good. But one with the right genes, or not,
that doesn't have that control will be a PIA Concentrate early work on
the control, cause if she has the right stuff she'll get out of control easy
when her hunting genes kick in ... in other words, hunting her until you
can't catch here and are one of the guys shouting, "Here, Here, Here you
****ing bitch." and THEN working on control is the wrong order ... start
with control, and as she builds maintain it ... IT will pay off in pleasure.

FWIW, ..... IF you are a serious waterfowler ... the above order is likely
fraught with hazard ... what a dock dog does ( besides the basically
natural ) requires lots of discipline ... . what a pheasant does is mainly
run around doing what he wants g My experience is that a dog refined
to the level of pleasant in a duck blind is easy to make into a controlled
upland dog, whereas the reverse is less true. But, if upland is your major
interest, the dog is a tool, like a fly rod and should be designed for
your main purposes and compromised for lesser ones.

P.S. teaching a dog to sit on a whistle is a great thing ... regardless of
whether you intend to handle ( hand signals ) her. In pheasant hunting
blowing a sit whistle ( if dog understand what 'must' means ;-) is a great
way to slow a dog on a trail down so you can safely keep up without pulling
him off that trail ( as calling him would ) .... whistle sit isn't normally
thought of as standard in upland hunting, but, trust me, it's a great tool
( blow it at flush and before you know it you'll have a sit to flush dog,
too )

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"Larry L" wrote in message
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Bob W. iis here.


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

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In article ,
says...

The new pup is a yellow Lab. I'm going to train her for upland
work first then water retrieving later.



My dad is visiting from MT this weekend for some pheasant hunting.
My yellow lab Chloe is an OK pheasant dog (and would be a lot better
if I got her out hunting more often.) My dad, being retired and all,
goes out hunting twice a week for 4 months out of the year, and his
black lab Flicka is a PHENOMENAL pheasant hunter. We went out today
and got two limits of roosters. Flicka found most of them and
retrieved all of them. Chloe, I think, decided to loaf through the
day on the assumption that Flicka had everything covered.

Oh, and Larry, here.

K


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On Nov 1, 6:03*am, "Larry L" wrote:
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I was at a conference over the weekend, but I'm still around.

--riverman

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On Nov 1, 10:32�am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
wrote:
... � Ken, what kind of
dog? �I field trial/hunt pointing dogs and spaniels. �And I've hunted
Labs. �Let me know and I'll recommend something. �You can email me at


Hey Harry, you old Buckeye. Long time no see.

The new pup is a yellow Lab. I'm going to train her for upland
work first then water retrieving later.

Thanks.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Well, if you're going to use her like a spaniel, train her like one.
Three commands are basic: come, heel and hup. BTW, hup means sit.
Training to the whistle helps too. There are a couple of books that
you might look at: "Working Springers and Cockers" by Mike Smith, "The
Working Springer Spaniel" by Keith Erladnson, "Training Spaniels" by
Joe Irving, "Training the Rough Shooting Dog" by PRA Maxon etc. Dunno
if any of 'em are in the U of I library but they can all be ILLed as
I'm sure you know.

Nice win bY U of I yesterday. "Oski-wah-wah" as my wife says. That
Juice guy is the best QB in the Big 10 IMO. And my new favorite
single malt is Talisker's '92 Distillers Edition. Try it (if you
haven't) you'll like it. :-) Just a touch of sherry smooths out the
Talisker.

Harry

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For the good of the Universe, I still pop in and read a few threads
from time to time. I just haven't felt inspired to write anything.
For my part, that's not because of anything wrong with roff or any of
it's participants. I find myself uninspired a lot of the time
regardless of the setting. Doldrums? (and not in the 'capiltal D'
sense of the word, even though I *did* capitalize it just then) I
suppose I need to get back to fishing, or at least try to reorganize
my flyboxes and tying flotsam. Unlike a lot of the current and former
posters here, I've never been in a serious disagreement, let alone an
extended feud, although JR deserves at least a little wrath for
ejecting me from a cabin in Maine once (grrr, but not really). roff
just isn't worth that kind of aggravation (even if the aggravation is
in the form of self amusement - which is a fine reason). I've only
ever once had an angry moment with a fellow roffian, and you all will
forgive me my lapse in control because it involved that ultimate
Arrogant *******, George. Who here didn't have a problem with George
(personal or business), RIP. I feel like many of you-all (horrible
Northeast attempt at hominess - transparent, and amplified by this
exposition...) are friends, at least in a fakey Internet-pseudo-social
kind of way. Some of you are actually real-life friends too, and
since this is the only way I stay in touch, I will make an occasional
post to remind you I'm still here, and to remind myself that I'm not
really asocial. So, anyways, I'm still here somewhat, and it's likely
I'll actively post again if the fog ever lifts.

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wrote in message
...
So, anyways, I'm still here somewhat, and it's likely
I'll actively post again if the fog ever lifts.

--
Stan Gula

To hell with posting, Stan......I'm hoping the fog lifts, and you are
standing on the banks of Penn's creek with a contingent from MA on the last
week of May, 2009.
It's the 10th Penn's Clave, ya know!
Tom
p.s As for 'busy tying', my vest, although retrieved from
the woods, was missing a box of Sulfurs, one of Caddis
and two small boxes of midges and terrestrials. Tom has
some tying to do!

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Larry L wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote
The new pup is a yellow Lab. I'm going to train her for upland
work first then water retrieving later.

Ken, I don't really have a book suggestion

Mostly deciding what you really want ( in detail ) is the hard part ... the
rest is just common sense and some creativity ( I've trained hundreds and no
two exactly the same way ... the curriculum remains the same, the methods
vary, like all good teaching G)

One thing to ponder

What separates a good hunting dog from a great one ... you've already
(hopefully ) taken care of ... the desire that came from mom and dad ( not
to fuel the $1500 dog wars again, but all dogs are NOT created equal ;-)
The dogs that will grow into one that will challenge the berry vines to
pursue a bird are born with that potential, it's not a man made thing past
the decision of who to breed to whom ... no amount of 'training' wan put
that desire into one when it's lacking.

BUT, what separates the good hunting dog from the useless or worse ... is
discipline ... In other words a dog that comes when called, regardless,
sits when told, regardless, etc etc ... can be great IF he got the right
genes and will be at least good. But one with the right genes, or not,
that doesn't have that control will be a PIA Concentrate early work on
the control, cause if she has the right stuff she'll get out of control easy
when her hunting genes kick in ... in other words, hunting her until you
can't catch here and are one of the guys shouting, "Here, Here, Here you
****ing bitch." and THEN working on control is the wrong order ... start
with control, and as she builds maintain it ... IT will pay off in pleasure.

FWIW, ..... IF you are a serious waterfowler ... the above order is likely
fraught with hazard ... what a dock dog does ( besides the basically
natural ) requires lots of discipline ... . what a pheasant does is mainly
run around doing what he wants g My experience is that a dog refined
to the level of pleasant in a duck blind is easy to make into a controlled
upland dog, whereas the reverse is less true. But, if upland is your major
interest, the dog is a tool, like a fly rod and should be designed for
your main purposes and compromised for lesser ones.

P.S. teaching a dog to sit on a whistle is a great thing ... regardless of
whether you intend to handle ( hand signals ) her. In pheasant hunting
blowing a sit whistle ( if dog understand what 'must' means ;-) is a great
way to slow a dog on a trail down so you can safely keep up without pulling
him off that trail ( as calling him would ) .... whistle sit isn't normally
thought of as standard in upland hunting, but, trust me, it's a great tool
( blow it at flush and before you know it you'll have a sit to flush dog,
too )

Thanks Larry, excellent advice all the way around. Living where I
live I'm necessarily a frequent upland hunter and just an occasional
waterfowler. I can hunt pheasant minutes from my front door, I have
to travel quite a ways to hunt geese and ducks.

Thanks again.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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On Oct 31, 11:03*pm, "Larry L" wrote:
Please reply ( to the whole group *) ONE time to this post if you read it
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I'm simply curious how many people might still actually be here ... since
only about 8 every post anything

use an alias if you don't want anyone to know you're here G

I still look in and read occasional posts.

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On Nov 1, 7:26*am, rw wrote:
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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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On Nov 1, 9:20*pm, Kevin Vang wrote:
In article ,
says...

The new pup is a yellow Lab. I'm going to train her for upland
work first then water retrieving later.

My dad is visiting from MT this weekend for some pheasant hunting.
My yellow lab Chloe is an OK pheasant dog (and would be a lot better
if I got her out hunting more often.) *My dad, being retired and all,
goes out hunting twice a week for 4 months out of the year, and his
black lab Flicka is a PHENOMENAL pheasant hunter. *We went out today
and got two limits of roosters. *Flicka found most of them and
retrieved all of them. *Chloe, I think, decided to loaf through the
day on the assumption that Flicka had everything covered.

Oh, and Larry, here.

K

--
Kevin Vang
reply to kevin dot vang at minotstateu dot edu

kevin, god, send me pheasant. i love it, and only have hunted
for them on a couple of occasions.

oh, and about roff: i usually post if there are no really neat
sasquatch tv commercials to watch. or if my girlfriend's boobs fall
off.

yfitons
wayno

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wrote:
snip
oh, and about roff: i usually post if there are no really neat
sasquatch tv commercials to watch. or if my girlfriend's boobs fall
off.

SPLORK VANG MU! Another keyboard bites the dust.
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TL,
Tim
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In article 4213fae1-3d68-458a-9215-2e62e9bedfa8
@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com, says...
kevin, god, send me pheasant. i love it, and only have hunted
for them on a couple of occasions.



Come on out. We actually missed a few of them today.

We went out again today and got two more limits. One thing I didn't
say earlier, Flicka is a pointing lab. My dad's old dog did some
pointing, rather unexpectedly, actually, but dad decided he kinda
liked it. So when the time came to get a new pup, he bought one
from a line of pointing labs. Today, after hunting with Flicka
for two days, suddenly started pointing birds too. I told Dad his
dog was teaching my dog her bad habits.

--
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reply to kevin dot vang at minotstateu dot edu

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On Oct 31, 2:03*pm, "Larry L" wrote:

Toll me.

Dave Snedeker the Wise

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On 31 Okt, 23:03, "Larry L" wrote:
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Lurking in Lapland!
Occasionally visiting ROFF.

/Roger