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Yoo hoo, calling rdean, where arrrrrrrrrrre you ?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!

--
Ken Fortenberry

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On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:08:00 -0600, Ken Fortenberry
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Yoo hoo, calling rdean, where arrrrrrrrrrre you ?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!

He's scheduled to reappear with the 2010 mid-term elections...

/daytripper (can't wait! rolls eyes)

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Yoo hoo, calling rdean, where arrrrrrrrrrre you ?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!

it's not like someone didn't tell him that it might turn into a landslide by
Nov.4....g
Tom

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On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:08:00 -0600, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Yoo hoo, calling rdean, where arrrrrrrrrrre you ?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!

Um, living my life, and I pretty well knew what ROFF would generally
contain - a bunch of guilty white "liberals" gloating and congratulating
themselves on how wonderful they are for having voted for a black guy
who was gonna "change" everything and a coupla-three of clueless old
farts railing against it all. As for me, as I said, it changes nothing
and there is no way whatsoever to know what or how Obama might do, so
commenting on what he _might_ do is premature. He was an unknown
quantity on Tuesday morning and he'll be one until at least he is sworn
in. About all that I would offer is that he better be VERY careful
about what he does as neither he nor Dems got anything remotely close to
a "mandate from the people" (no, the "popular vote" total is not
terribly reflective if you analyze it). I hope he lives up to even half
his hype, because if so, he'll be a decent President. And to
quasi-quote a moderately well-known black comedian, "Obama, you're in,
brother...for God's sake, don't lose yo' damn mind..." His supposed
choice of Rahm Emanuel for CoS doesn't bode well.

And there you are,
R

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On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:42:04 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
.. .
Yoo hoo, calling rdean, where arrrrrrrrrrre you ?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!

it's not like someone didn't tell him that it might turn into a landslide by
Nov.4....g
Tom

Um, you might want to really review the numbers - it was hardly "a
landslide."

TC,
R

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On Nov 6, 9:56*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:42:04 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:



"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
.. .
Yoo hoo, calling rdean, where arrrrrrrrrrre you ?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!

it's not like someone didn't tell him that it might turn into a landslide by
Nov.4....g
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom

Um, you might want to really review the numbers - it was hardly "a
landslide."

TC,
R

Define a 'landslide'.
http://tinyurl.com/55x7a8

--riverman

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On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:04:21 -0800 (PST), riverman
wrote:

On Nov 6, 9:56*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:42:04 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:



"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
.. .
Yoo hoo, calling rdean, where arrrrrrrrrrre you ?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!

it's not like someone didn't tell him that it might turn into a landslide by
Nov.4....g
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom

Um, you might want to really review the numbers - it was hardly "a
landslide."

TC,
R

Define a 'landslide'.
http://tinyurl.com/55x7a8

Well, look at like this - looking at it from the "mandate" side (which
isn't the actual election via Electors) there were roughly 120 million
votes cast and two states, New York and California, accounted for a
little over 4 million, or roughly half the difference, and 6 populous
"Dem" states (states that were almost certainly going Dem regardless)
CA, NY, PA, NJ, Mass., and Ill., account for most of the difference. The
outcome would have been the same whether 3 people in each had voted, 2
Obama, 1 McCain or 30,000,000, 20 mil to 10 mil. I guess one might say
Obama has a "mandate" from the people who were going to vote Dem
regardless, but...

On the Electoral side, 7 states with a combined total of about 600,000
votes difference that would have put the election the other way. All
had extremely high minority turnout, such that it appears to have either
swung the election or contributed significantly to it. Is this "bad?"
That's in the eye of the beholder, I suppose, but I must say and I would
say all rational people would agree that _IF_ the primary reason for
those votes were FOR mere skin color, that's not "good," just as I would
say and all rational people would agree that votes AGAINST mere skin
color are "bad" - either way, it's racist. Obama essentially used the
"vote for a brother" strategy in several states - what would you think
if McCain had used a "don't vote for the darkie" strategy? It's the
same thing - do or don't do based on skin color.

IAC, given that a relative few voters in a relative few states "made the
election," I'd say it isn't "a landslide" and further, given that in
popular vote, the numbers are very concentrated, I'd say it isn't "a
mandate by the people."

Nothing in the above should be construed to take away from the fact that
Obama won and clearly so, but it simply isn't, objectively, "a
landslide" or "a mandate."

HTH,
R
--riverman

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On Nov 6, 9:18*am, wrote:

Oh, you mean they did not use the "Don't let the darkie vote
strategy," and the "don't vote for the darkie" strategies? (Fibb meter
overload)
And what was all that stuff that was being made of the Obama's knckle
wrap etc.?
Richard, Richard, Richard
When has the dominant party not run the "fear the darkie" strategy,
primarily in the South, and Southern midwest.?
Dave

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wrote in message
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His supposed
choice of Rahm Emanuel for CoS doesn't bode well.

And there you are,
R

I might disagree, as Emmanuel will keep the more-liberal House of Reps in
line, as Obama develops his program.
It might work like this: Obama's team develops an initiative, ole Rahm
steers it though house intact(ie: without Pelosi et al ****ing it up), while
Biden shmoozes the Senate. This may prove a very successful approach, time
will tell.
Tom

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wrote in message
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Um, you might want to really review the numbers - it was hardly "a
landslide."

I think I said 6% or so popular vote edge, EV would be a landslide, which is
defined as a plus-125 or better margin.
Damned close, actually......
Tom

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On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:27:15 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:


wrote in message
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Um, you might want to really review the numbers - it was hardly "a
landslide."

I think I said 6% or so popular vote edge, EV would be a landslide, which is
defined as a plus-125 or better margin.
Damned close, actually......
Tom


Hey, anyone can define "landslide" as they choose because there is no
real definition, but the numbers simply aren't in the range and
distribution to indicate what most objective observers would call "a
landslide" or even "a mandate." By all means, it was a clear victory,
which is a very good thing, but I'd not get carried away.

TC,
R

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On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:26:07 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
His supposed
choice of Rahm Emanuel for CoS doesn't bode well.

And there you are,
R

I might disagree, as Emmanuel will keep the more-liberal House of Reps in
line, as Obama develops his program.
It might work like this: Obama's team develops an initiative, ole Rahm
steers it though house intact(ie: without Pelosi et al ****ing it up), while
Biden shmoozes the Senate. This may prove a very successful approach, time
will tell.
Tom

It will. My fear of Emanuel is that he seems like a Tom Delay, just
working it from a different angle, but concerned solely about the same
thing...himself.

TC,
R

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On Nov 7, 9:41*am, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:27:15 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
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wrote in message
.. .
Um, you might want to really review the numbers - it was hardly "a
landslide."

I think I said 6% or so popular vote edge, EV would be a landslide, which is
defined as a plus-125 or better margin.
Damned close, actually......
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom

Hey, anyone can define "landslide" as they choose because there is no
real definition, but the numbers simply aren't in the range and
distribution to indicate what most objective observers would call "a
landslide" or even "a mandate." *By all means, it was a clear victory,
which is a very good thing, but I'd not get carried away.

TC,
R

Oh I don't know that any of us are in a position to determine what
"most observers" would call it. But I do know that, in the lack of a
legal or even popular definition of what a 'landslide' is, your claim
that it is not one is as valid as anyone elses. Which is just how you
like it. :-)

--riverman
(By the way, I call it a 'landslide' AND a 'mandate'. Prove me wrong.
bseg)

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On Nov 6, 5:43*pm, wrote:

It will. *My fear of Emanuel is that he seems like a Tom Delay, just
working it from a different angle, but concerned solely about the same
thing...himself.

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Really? Tom Delay was indited for criminal acts. Delay and Abramoff
(currently in prison) were big buddies. Delay called the caged garment
workers on Saipan, a great capitalist experiment or something like
that. DeLay stole money from a fake youth charity to fund Republican
drunk-fests at the convention. DeLay set up the K Street project which
extorted millions from American and foreign businesses.

I don't recall you having any problems with DeLay's antics? Why would
you fear Emanuel, again?

Dave

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On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 01:02:07 -0800 (PST), DaveS
wrote:

On Nov 6, 5:43*pm, wrote:

It will. *My fear of Emanuel is that he seems like a Tom Delay, just
working it from a different angle, but concerned solely about the same
thing...himself.

TC,
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Really? Tom Delay was indited for criminal acts. Delay and Abramoff
(currently in prison) were big buddies. Delay called the caged garment
workers on Saipan, a great capitalist experiment or something like
that. DeLay stole money from a fake youth charity to fund Republican
drunk-fests at the convention. DeLay set up the K Street project which
extorted millions from American and foreign businesses.

I don't recall you having any problems with DeLay's antics? Why would
you fear Emanuel, again?

Then you don't recall very well. I've repeatedly called Delay a sorry
piece of **** and worse. The fact that I was and am against Ronnie
Earle and his equally-smarmy trumped-up politically-motivated criminal
prosecution is another matter.

HTH,
R

Dave

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On Nov 7, 3:23*am, wrote:
On Nov 6, 5:43*pm, wrote:

It will. *My fear of Emanuel is that he seems like a Tom Delay, just
working it from a different angle, but concerned solely about the same
thing...himself.

Really? Tom Delay was indited for criminal acts. Delay and Abramoff
(currently in prison) were big buddies. Delay called the caged garment
workers on Saipan, a great capitalist experiment or something like
that. DeLay stole money from a fake youth charity to fund Republican
drunk-fests at the convention. DeLay set up the K Street project which
extorted millions from American and foreign businesses.

I don't recall you having any problems with DeLay's antics? Why would
you fear Emanuel, *again?

Then you don't recall very well. *I've repeatedly called Delay a sorry
piece of **** and worse. *The fact that I was and am against Ronnie
Earle and his equally-smarmy trumped-up politically-motivated criminal
prosecution is another matter.

HTH,
R

Sure, I can accept that, but given our shared disgust with DeLay, why
does Emanuel . . . "seem(s) like a Tom Delay, just working it from a
different angle, but concerned solely about the same
thing...himself."

I just do not see the analogy. I bet Ron Emanuel has had to sneak by
"K" street for the last few years, probably could not get by the armed
guards they had around the barb wired sweatshops on Saipan that pumped
Red Chinese money into the RNCs coffers, and hasn't been indited that
I know of.

Jeeese, if half the "conservatives" who gave their support to the
Bushies these last few years had any idea of how close to treason some
of their heroes danced these last few years, it would be the end of
the Trotsky wing of the Republican party.

Dave