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Four Stroke -vs- Two Stroke Maintenance
Hoping this works cause I'm at work trying to access the ng through
Google... Anyway, I'm considering purchasing another boat and see now that Tracker is selling mostly with four stroke engines. I'll assume that this means no more mixing oil and gas which is a positive, and that the engine will not be as loud. Most likely will be a little slower compared to a two stroke too, right? Speed aint that important to me as I'm only looking at about a 40hp anyway. I remember winterizing my two stroke... but I'm wondering about the four stroke. Since it doesn't burn oil, I really wouldn't have to about oil gumming up the fuel injection, like I did with the carbs... Speaking of fuel injections, how's the gas consumption? I know... I'm sounding like a noob again! |
Four Stroke -vs- Two Stroke Maintenance
On Jan 5, 8:42*am, wrote:
Hoping this works cause I'm at work trying to access the ng through Google... Anyway, I'm considering purchasing another boat and see now that Tracker is selling mostly with four stroke engines. I'll assume that this means no more mixing oil and gas which is a positive, and that the engine will not be as loud. Most likely will be a little slower compared to a two stroke too, right? Speed aint that important to me as I'm only looking at about a 40hp anyway. I remember winterizing my two stroke... but I'm wondering about the four stroke. Since it doesn't burn oil, I really wouldn't have to about oil gumming up the fuel injection, like I did with the carbs... Speaking of fuel injections, how's the gas consumption? I know... I'm sounding like a noob again! Hi Charles; I would look at the Evinrude E-Tec 40 HP. It is 2 cycle 2 cylinder with no mixing of oil and gas and EFI. Can be ordered in several configurations with electric or rope starter etc. I recently replaced my engine with an E-Tec and it is the best engine I have ever run. Mine is a 90hp 3 cylinder 2 cycle. It is quiet and starts easily. In addition it has an auto winterizing feature which lets you winterize with no hassle. Much better fuel efficiency than my old engine. If you want to take a look at it just give me a call. I recently pulled it home to redo all the electrical wiring but will have it back at the marina shortly. Happy New Year and best wishes. Jack |
Four Stroke -vs- Two Stroke Maintenance
On Jan 5, 7:42*am, wrote:
Hoping this works cause I'm at work trying to access the ng through Google... Anyway, I'm considering purchasing another boat and see now that Tracker is selling mostly with four stroke engines. I'll assume that this means no more mixing oil and gas which is a positive, and that the engine will not be as loud. Most likely will be a little slower compared to a two stroke too, right? Speed aint that important to me as I'm only looking at about a 40hp anyway. I remember winterizing my two stroke... but I'm wondering about the four stroke. Since it doesn't burn oil, I really wouldn't have to about oil gumming up the fuel injection, like I did with the carbs... Speaking of fuel injections, how's the gas consumption? I know... I'm sounding like a noob again! Not at all. Good questions. Here I go again. I typed out a thorough response earlier, but it never appeared. Bass & Walleye Boats Magazine recently tested most of the major 50HP pllayers on the market. If you are looking at 60s I am sure they would test similarly. The Merc 4 stroke had the best fuel economy and the best top speed, but nearly the worst hole shot of all engines tested. The Merc 2 stroke had the best hole shot and the 2nd best top speed (about 1 mph difference), but nearly the worst fuel economy. When they totalled the score for all of the outboards tested for all of the scoring criteria the Merc 2 stroke rated the highest. Its also the least expensive outboard in the group. They tested Honda, Merc, Evinrude, Yamaha, and one of two others for 8 outboards total I think. Since you are looking at Tracker and they only offer them as package deals with Mercury outboards there is no reason to look at the specific results for the other motors. If you want a great hole shot to clear shallow water obstructions quickly go with the Merc 2 stroke. If you need emmissions for places like Diamond Valley and Tahoe, then look at the Merc 4 stroke. For the naysayers, They used several identical hulls, and let the factory teams install, setup, and drive their own outboards. BWB staff road along and recorded the results with their own instruments. Since this was a performance test of brand new outboards I can not speak to maintenance or durability, but I have sure run the heck out of my 2005 Merc 2 stroke. Also, the O in ELPTO means oil injected. You just keep the oil tank full on the outboard and put gas in the tank. No mixing involved. On mine there is a cap that comes out through the top of the cowling that I can open and add 2 stroke oil. The only maintenance I do is add oil, change the lower unit oil once a year, and put in a new water pump impellor every year (sandy river running). I can do all of that myself fairly easily. I do check the plugs, but so far its still purring on the original factory set. The same maintenance I would do on any outboard. A 4 stroke does require an oil change periodically just like your car or truck, so that would add to the maintenance cost. JMHO Bob La Londe www.YumaBassMan.com |
Four Stroke -vs- Two Stroke Maintenance
On Jan 5, 11:16*am, Bob La Londe wrote:
On Jan 5, 7:42*am, wrote: Hoping this works cause I'm at work trying to access the ng through Google... Anyway, I'm considering purchasing another boat and see now that Tracker is selling mostly with four stroke engines. I'll assume that this means no more mixing oil and gas which is a positive, and that the engine will not be as loud. Most likely will be a little slower compared to a two stroke too, right? Speed aint that important to me as I'm only looking at about a 40hp anyway. I remember winterizing my two stroke... but I'm wondering about the four stroke. Since it doesn't burn oil, I really wouldn't have to about oil gumming up the fuel injection, like I did with the carbs... Speaking of fuel injections, how's the gas consumption? I know... I'm sounding like a noob again! Not at all. *Good questions. Here I go again. *I typed out a thorough response earlier, but it never appeared. *Bass & Walleye Boats Magazine recently tested most of the major 50HP pllayers on the market. *If you are looking at 60s I am sure they would test similarly. *The Merc 4 stroke had the best fuel economy and the best top speed, but nearly the worst hole shot of all engines tested. *The Merc 2 stroke had the best hole shot and the 2nd best top speed (about 1 mph difference), but nearly the worst fuel economy. *When they totalled the score for all of the outboards tested for all of the scoring criteria the Merc 2 stroke rated the highest. Its also the least expensive outboard in the group. *They tested Honda, Merc, Evinrude, Yamaha, and one of two others for 8 outboards total I think. *Since you are looking at Tracker and they only offer them as package deals with Mercury outboards there is no reason to look at the specific results for the other motors. *If you want a great hole shot to clear shallow water obstructions quickly go with the Merc 2 stroke. *If you need emmissions for places like Diamond Valley and Tahoe, then look at the Merc 4 stroke. For the naysayers, They used several identical hulls, and let the factory teams install, setup, and drive their own outboards. *BWB staff road along and recorded the results with their own instruments. Since this was a performance test of brand new outboards I can not speak to maintenance or durability, but I have sure run the heck out of my 2005 Merc 2 stroke. *Also, the O in ELPTO means oil injected. You just keep the oil tank full on the outboard and put gas in the tank. *No mixing involved. *On mine there is a cap that comes out through the top of the cowling that I can open and add 2 stroke oil. The only maintenance I do is add oil, change the lower unit oil once a year, and put in a new water pump impellor every year (sandy river running). *I can do all of that myself fairly easily. *I do check the plugs, but so far its still purring on the original factory set. *The same maintenance I would do on any outboard. A 4 stroke does require an oil change periodically just like your car or truck, so that would add to the maintenance cost. JMHO Bob La Londewww.YumaBassMan.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oops. I see you are looking at a 40. I missed that the first time. Should be right on the money comparson wise with the 50. For the 2 stroke a lot of parts or the same between the Merc 50 and the Merc 40. Speed may not be important to you, but look at the speed tables on Tracker's outboard options spec page for the boat you are looking at. My litttle boat sees a big difference between my 50HP Merc 2 Stroke and my 50HP Force 2 Stroke (The Force puts out about 40 HP). With the Force I get about 28 -31 top speed. With the Merc I have tipped the 40 mark a couple times, and can routinely run 38. 8 - 10 MPH difference is not a lot on a small lake, but it makes a difference when running 16 miles up river to your spot. Bob La Londe www.YumaBassMan.com |
Four Stroke -vs- Two Stroke Maintenance
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message SNIP Oops. I see you are looking at a 40. I missed that the first time. Should be right on the money comparson wise with the 50. For the 2 stroke a lot of parts or the same between the Merc 50 and the Merc 40. Speed may not be important to you, but look at the speed tables on Tracker's outboard options spec page for the boat you are looking at. My litttle boat sees a big difference between my 50HP Merc 2 Stroke and my 50HP Force 2 Stroke (The Force puts out about 40 HP). With the Force I get about 28 -31 top speed. With the Merc I have tipped the 40 mark a couple times, and can routinely run 38. 8 - 10 MPH difference is not a lot on a small lake, but it makes a difference when running 16 miles up river to your spot. Bob La Londe www.YumaBassMan.com Not only would a larger motor offer a little more speed, it will offer more fuel economy as when you do need to make a run, instead of running at WOT, you can back off the throttle a little bit, still maintain the same speed as a smaller outboard at WOT, but be running more efficient at reduced rpms. I used to guide from a 17' boat with a 75 hp outboard. When I moved up to a 19' boat with a 175 EFI, I not only used LESS fuel, but my travel times were reduced. Plus, many people underestimate how they're going to load the boat. Once you get anchors, a full load of fuel, water in the livewell, all tackle, a cooler with iced soft drinks and your beer-drinking fishing buddy, you'll soon find out that a 40 hp boat might be VERY underpowered. Charles, want to buy my Triton TR-21? I'll make you one heck of a deal and I'll even deliver it! Of course, we'll have to go out and I'll teach you how to run it, and we'll do some fishing..... -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
Four Stroke -vs- Two Stroke Maintenance
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Four Stroke -vs- Two Stroke Maintenance
Steve... I'd love to have your Triton, but I'm just wanting a boat that's
fun to fish from/easy to care for/cheap to maintain/not a gas hog. It's time to do this again... and I rally don't want anything that'll make me work too hard... if you know what I mean. Just a little fishing boat. "Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers.com" wrote in message ... Charles, want to buy my Triton TR-21? I'll make you one heck of a deal and I'll even deliver it! Of course, we'll have to go out and I'll teach you how to run it, and we'll do some fishing..... -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
Four Stroke -vs- Two Stroke Maintenance
I'm beginning to like the idea of a four stroke!
wrote in message ... Hoping this works cause I'm at work trying to access the ng through Google... Anyway, I'm considering purchasing another boat and see now that Tracker is selling mostly with four stroke engines. I'll assume that this means no more mixing oil and gas which is a positive, and that the engine will not be as loud. Most likely will be a little slower compared to a two stroke too, right? Speed aint that important to me as I'm only looking at about a 40hp anyway. I remember winterizing my two stroke... but I'm wondering about the four stroke. Since it doesn't burn oil, I really wouldn't have to about oil gumming up the fuel injection, like I did with the carbs... Speaking of fuel injections, how's the gas consumption? I know... I'm sounding like a noob again! |
Florada trip
So am planning a trip to Florida next month.
The northern end of Okeechobee as far as I know. Mostly it is the brothers trip, I go along to get away from the snow. Anyway first time on the lake for us. Usually go to the Kissimmee chain. Brother likes to pull a shiner around while we cast artificial from the font. To me it is to much like worm fishing, and neither of us do that much. Mostly spinner baits, crank baits and a fluke or two for good measure. Ok for me it is mostly different colors and sizes of spinner baits. Heck if it doesn't want to hit a spinner bait must not really be hungry. Will not have a computer there, so if anyone has any info or wants someone to fish with for a day or two in Feb. let me know. Plan to leave Wisconsin on the 13th of Feb should be on the lake by the 15th. Two weeks later back to Wisconsin. for joy for joy Have I ever said I hate the cold weather....... That was the reason for going into the Navy. Well at least it is a couple of weeks of hopefully sunny weather. Dan not an ice fisherman -- Sometimes the best thing to do: Is nothing at all. But not this time. |
Florada trip
"DanD" wrote in message .. . So am planning a trip to Florida next month. The northern end of Okeechobee as far as I know. Mostly it is the brothers trip, I go along to get away from the snow. Anyway first time on the lake for us. Usually go to the Kissimmee chain. Brother likes to pull a shiner around while we cast artificial from the font. To me it is to much like worm fishing, and neither of us do that much. Mostly spinner baits, crank baits and a fluke or two for good measure. Ok for me it is mostly different colors and sizes of spinner baits. Heck if it doesn't want to hit a spinner bait must not really be hungry. Will not have a computer there, so if anyone has any info or wants someone to fish with for a day or two in Feb. let me know. Plan to leave Wisconsin on the 13th of Feb should be on the lake by the 15th. Two weeks later back to Wisconsin. for joy for joy Have I ever said I hate the cold weather....... That was the reason for going into the Navy. Well at least it is a couple of weeks of hopefully sunny weather. Dan not an ice fisherman First of all, TAKE ME WITH YOU!!! Okeechobee can be a great spinnerbait lake, and it's where I took my largest largemouth to date, with a baby bass colored Secret Weapon spinnerbait. My second largest largemouth taken on this lake came on a pearl colored SuperFluke, so those are two good lure choices. But, I would also suggest taking some stick baits like Senkos along as well. In February, cold fronts are an issue and you might have to slow down your lure speed and finesse the fish. Moe, who used to guide on the lake also swears by Junebug Trick Worms, rigged Texas style on a 1/0 J hook and fished with no weight. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
Florada trip
Hay:
Thanks for the suggestions. Will keep them in mind. By a cold front, you are talking something like 40 deg. above what will be here in Wisconsin. Slow and finesse are not my better styles, so I should work on them more often. Was really not expecting a response this soon Thanks again dan -- Sometimes the best thing to do: Is nothing at all. |
Florada trip
"DanD" wrote in message .. . So am planning a trip to Florida next month. The northern end of Okeechobee as far as I know. Mostly it is the brothers trip, I go along to get away from the snow. Anyway first time on the lake for us. Usually go to the Kissimmee chain. Brother likes to pull a shiner around while we cast artificial from the font. To me it is to much like worm fishing, and neither of us do that much. Mostly spinner baits, crank baits and a fluke or two for good measure. Ok for me it is mostly different colors and sizes of spinner baits. Heck if it doesn't want to hit a spinner bait must not really be hungry. Will not have a computer there, so if anyone has any info or wants someone to fish with for a day or two in Feb. let me know. Plan to leave Wisconsin on the 13th of Feb should be on the lake by the 15th. Two weeks later back to Wisconsin. for joy for joy Have I ever said I hate the cold weather....... That was the reason for going into the Navy. Well at least it is a couple of weeks of hopefully sunny weather. Dan not an ice fisherman -- Sometimes the best thing to do: Is nothing at all. But not this time. Stop by a Bait shop and ask which of the grasses the Bass are on.We hit them on the Kissimmee grass and smoked them for 6 days.We used War Eagle Golden Shiner in 1/4 & 3/8 with willow blades.Also had real good luck with Zoom's U-Vibe Speed Worms Junebug and Watermelon/red flake,either weight less or just a 1/32 sinker.Good Luck its a great fishery................. Chris S. |
Florada trip
thanks Chris
when were you down there? or are you from the area? seems like on the TV shows they are happy to get 6 or 7 fish a day around here if your out all day and catch less then 20 it is a bad day I just figured there would be a lot more small fish to be caught. takes a lot of little ones to get to some over 12 lbs. might just be us though. -- Sometimes the best thing to do: Is nothing at all. |
Florada trip
"DanD" wrote in message .. . thanks Chris when were you down there? or are you from the area? seems like on the TV shows they are happy to get 6 or 7 fish a day around here if your out all day and catch less then 20 it is a bad day I just figured there would be a lot more small fish to be caught. takes a lot of little ones to get to some over 12 lbs. might just be us though. -- Sometimes the best thing to do: Is nothing at all. I was down there fishing the ROFB in 2004. I know its been truff the last couple of years but Ive been reading its starting to come back.Good Luck and let us know how you did...... Chris S. |
Four Stroke -vs- Two Stroke Maintenance
I suggest cialis. Neither two nor four strokes are enough to get the full
effect. wrote in message ... Hoping this works cause I'm at work trying to access the ng through Google... Anyway, I'm considering purchasing another boat and see now that Tracker is selling mostly with four stroke engines. I'll assume that this means no more mixing oil and gas which is a positive, and that the engine will not be as loud. Most likely will be a little slower compared to a two stroke too, right? Speed aint that important to me as I'm only looking at about a 40hp anyway. I remember winterizing my two stroke... but I'm wondering about the four stroke. Since it doesn't burn oil, I really wouldn't have to about oil gumming up the fuel injection, like I did with the carbs... Speaking of fuel injections, how's the gas consumption? I know... I'm sounding like a noob again! |
Four Stroke -vs- Two Stroke Maintenance
Went back and re-read that article. The Honda 4 stroke was the fastest, but
there was less than one 1mph difference on top speed between all htree top finishers. Honda, Merc 4, Merc 2. The Merc 2 had the best hole shot and acceleration. By the time the 4s got up to full speed the 2 would have been a mile away. "Charles B. Summers" wrote in message om... Steve... I'd love to have your Triton, but I'm just wanting a boat that's fun to fish from/easy to care for/cheap to maintain/not a gas hog. It's time to do this again... and I rally don't want anything that'll make me work too hard... if you know what I mean. Just a little fishing boat. "Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers.com" wrote in message ... Charles, want to buy my Triton TR-21? I'll make you one heck of a deal and I'll even deliver it! Of course, we'll have to go out and I'll teach you how to run it, and we'll do some fishing..... -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
Four Stroke -vs- Two Stroke Maintenance
Hey... I hear the raccoons are getting a little restless on the Hill.
WASSUP Bryan?! "Bryan" wrote in message ... I suggest cialis. Neither two nor four strokes are enough to get the full effect. wrote in message ... Hoping this works cause I'm at work trying to access the ng through Google... Anyway, I'm considering purchasing another boat and see now that Tracker is selling mostly with four stroke engines. I'll assume that this means no more mixing oil and gas which is a positive, and that the engine will not be as loud. Most likely will be a little slower compared to a two stroke too, right? Speed aint that important to me as I'm only looking at about a 40hp anyway. I remember winterizing my two stroke... but I'm wondering about the four stroke. Since it doesn't burn oil, I really wouldn't have to about oil gumming up the fuel injection, like I did with the carbs... Speaking of fuel injections, how's the gas consumption? I know... I'm sounding like a noob again! |
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