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consideration doesn't worry him one bit... "I have already spoken to both Willie Nelson and Wesley Snipes, and both ready to step in, step up and serve the nation...," the President said a press conference. HTH, R ....I suppose the US taxpayer ought to be glad that Al Capone is dead... |
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wrote in message ... Barack Obama has announced that the withdrawal of Daschle and Killefer from consideration doesn't worry him one bit... "I have already spoken to both Willie Nelson and Wesley Snipes, and both ready to step in, step up and serve the nation...," the President said a press conference. HTH, R ...I suppose the US taxpayer ought to be glad that Al Capone is dead... I am glad that both are out of the picture. Obama is finding(and this is a good thing) that the concept of a better type of government is a high moral bar, and that folks DO expect him to clear it. Actually, my real issue with Daschle wasn't the tax thing(although that reeks of stupid), but the idea that he got bucks for consultation work with the healthcare industry. I really don't want to see the reform of the US healthcare system from someone partially in the pocket of one side or the other. You start to get to wondering, though,does anyone down there pay their freaking taxes?? Tom |
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You start to get to wondering, though,does anyone down there pay their freaking taxes?? Only after they're considered for a cabinet position. :-) -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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On Feb 3, 3:26*pm, wrote:
Barack Obama has announced that the withdrawal of Daschle and Killefer from consideration doesn't worry him one bit... "I have already spoken to both Willie Nelson and Wesley Snipes, and both ready to step in, step up and serve the nation...," the President said a press conference. HTH, R ...I suppose the US taxpayer ought to be glad that Al Capone is dead... Well, Wesley Snipes tried to get away with not paying. Willie got hammered by a crooked manager. Gotta be situation dependent. Frank Reid |
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On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:24:47 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
wrote in message .. . Barack Obama has announced that the withdrawal of Daschle and Killefer from consideration doesn't worry him one bit... "I have already spoken to both Willie Nelson and Wesley Snipes, and both ready to step in, step up and serve the nation...," the President said a press conference. HTH, R ...I suppose the US taxpayer ought to be glad that Al Capone is dead... I am glad that both are out of the picture. Obama is finding(and this is a good thing) that the concept of a better type of government is a high moral bar, Um, he is just now finding THAT?! I sorta figured, at least to hear him and the FOO (Friends Of Obama) fighters tell it while he was running for Prez, that he not only had the easy **** like that figured out, but all of the hard ****, too... and that folks DO expect him to clear it. Maybe they can start by jumping over Timmy Geithner's housekeeper...just sort of as a training session...you know, little hurdles before big leaps... Actually, my real issue with Daschle wasn't the tax thing(although that reeks of stupid), but the idea that he got bucks for consultation work with the healthcare industry. Well, to be fair, maybe when Obama nominated him, he thought Daschle hadn't been doing anything but riding around in a loaned limo since leaving Congress... I really don't want to see the reform of the US healthcare system from someone partially in the pocket of one side or the other. You start to get to wondering, though,does anyone down there pay their freaking taxes?? Well, sure...but I'm pretty sure that Obama won't be appointing very many wealthy Republican supporters to his cabinet... HTH, R Tom |
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:45:56 -0800 (PST), Frank Reid © 2008
wrote: On Feb 3, 3:26*pm, wrote: Barack Obama has announced that the withdrawal of Daschle and Killefer from consideration doesn't worry him one bit... "I have already spoken to both Willie Nelson and Wesley Snipes, and both ready to step in, step up and serve the nation...," the President said a press conference. HTH, R ...I suppose the US taxpayer ought to be glad that Al Capone is dead... Well, Wesley Snipes tried to get away with not paying. Oh, yeah, sure, the black man is ALWAYS guilty, right? Willie got hammered by a crooked manager. Ah, yes...the typical defense of the left - "It's someone else's fault!" Gotta be situation dependent. See above. HTH, R Frank Reid |
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wrote in message ... Um, he is just now finding THAT?! I sorta figured, at least to hear him and the FOO (Friends Of Obama) fighters tell it while he was running for Prez, that he not only had the easy **** like that figured out, but all of the hard ****, too... I don't know who you heard that from, but rather suspect that you IMPLIED that. Hell, Obama hisownself admitted that the process wouldn't be easy. How could someone misconstrue that? Well, sure...but I'm pretty sure that Obama won't be appointing very many wealthy Republican supporters to his cabinet... not that the odds would improve, if he did, but perhaps the accounting might get murkier......At any rate, it was damned refreshing to hear a POTUS admit, on the public airwaves, "I screwed up on this one". Compare and contrast, if you will, to his predecessor, who screwed up with alarming frequency, and seemingly, to this day cannot admit it to himself, let alone the general public. Tom |
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wrote in message ... Ah, yes...the typical defense of the left - "It's someone else's fault!" contrasted, with the typical defense of the right?? I wasn't aware that the blame game had an ideology. Then again, in Willie's case, I just figured the reefer messed with his math skills...... Tom |
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:27:01 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
wrote in message .. . Um, he is just now finding THAT?! I sorta figured, at least to hear him and the FOO (Friends Of Obama) fighters tell it while he was running for Prez, that he not only had the easy **** like that figured out, but all of the hard ****, too... I don't know who you heard that from, but rather suspect that you IMPLIED that. Hell, Obama hisownself admitted that the process wouldn't be easy. How could someone misconstrue that? Er, "the process" is going to be that much harder if he just now figuring out stuff like a moral bar laying on the floor ain't all that high... Well, sure...but I'm pretty sure that Obama won't be appointing very many wealthy Republican supporters to his cabinet... not that the odds would improve, if he did, but perhaps the accounting might get murkier......At any rate, it was damned refreshing to hear a POTUS admit, on the public airwaves, "I screwed up on this one". Well, the, um, "good" news is that it is beginning to appear that you may be regularly refreshed... In all seriousness though, while it might seem that such refreshment is a good thing (and hopefully, only a small serving is necessary), it is potentially a VERY dangerous drink. While the domestic political "weakness" implied in such a punch might only be dangerous relative to domestic politics, leaders publicly admitting "screw-ups" is not something one needs to be serving to guests, and especially not something one would want to serve to foreign enemies. TC, R Compare and contrast, if you will, to his predecessor, who screwed up with alarming frequency, and seemingly, to this day cannot admit it to himself, let alone the general public. Tom |
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:31:38 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
wrote in message .. . Ah, yes...the typical defense of the left - "It's someone else's fault!" contrasted, with the typical defense of the right?? I wasn't aware that the blame game had an ideology. Then again, in Willie's case, I just figured the reefer messed with his math skills...... Right - "it's someone else's fault!" HTH, R ....."It's a vast right-wing conspiracy..." Tom |
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Willie got hammered by a crooked manager. *
Ah, yes...the typical defense of the left - "It's someone else's fault!" Well, in Willie's case, his manager made the Bobby Orr/Alan Eagleson relationship look downright sweet and innocent. Willie's manager absconded to south america with all his bucks when it came out that he'd not been paying Willie's taxes. Frank Reid |
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:09:59 -0800 (PST), Frank Reid © 2008
wrote: Willie got hammered by a crooked manager. * Ah, yes...the typical defense of the left - "It's someone else's fault!" Well, in Willie's case, his manager made the Bobby Orr/Alan Eagleson relationship look downright sweet and innocent. Willie's manager absconded to south america Oh, sure...blame it on the banana republicans... with all his bucks when it came out that he'd not been paying Willie's taxes. And if Willie had been acting like a responsible adult, he would have had at least an idea that something wasn't, um, kosher... Seriously, I like Willie Nelson, but at the end of the day, he got himself into the mess, and I'd bet big that he'd tell you the same thing. And to his credit, he got himself out of it. The whole idea that supposedly responsible people such as Geithner, Daschle, etc., etc., have folks making excuses for them (and are making excuses themselves) on stuff like taxes and the like is ridiculous and IMO, a large part of the problem. TC, R Frank Reid |
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wrote in message ... Right - "it's someone else's fault!" HTH, R ...."It's a vast right-wing conspiracy..." "It's the Liberal media" Tom |
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:38:53 -0600, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: wrote: ... The whole idea that supposedly responsible people such as Geithner, Daschle, etc., etc., have folks making excuses for them (and are making excuses themselves) on stuff like taxes and the like is ridiculous and IMO, a large part of the problem. The taxes don't bother me much. The tax code *is* complicated and byzantine. Where is the line between, "borrow my car when you're in town" and "this is salary, here's a W-2, don't forget to change the oil" ? Er, nope. Hindery wasn't just a friend, he was a million-dollar-a-year employer. If it had been merely a friend who "loaned" him the limo to take his wife to a yearly anniversary dinner and a coupla-three Broadway shows, it would have been a non-taxable event. The bigger problem is that Daschle earned $5 million influence peddling two days after being ousted from the Senate. And he wasn't even a lobbyist. Um, well, apparently he wasn't _registered_ as one...OTOH, his wife is... I don't know how to fix that "problem". Well, you could write a letter to yer boy and tell him to quit letting his mouth write checks his ass can't cover...hell, he promised no lobbyists, signed something, and then, immediately started doing "exceptions"... I think Daschle is eminently qualified to be health czar, probably one of the most qualified people in the country. And you say this because...? In some ways lobbyists get a bad rap. The Sierra Club hires a lobbyist and I hope they hire a good one and pay whatever a good one costs. What is lobbying other than having a voice ? Ah. You obviously have no idea whatsoever about lobbying or how the system works. The problem as I see it is Republican lobbyists. Ah. You REALLY have no idea whatsoever how things work - trust me or don't, but there ain't no such thing as a "Republican lobbyist"...at least, not one getting into a limo...well, unless they are driving it to make ends meet... We ought to allow lobbying only for liberals and not fat cat Republicans. That'll fix it. ;-) Well, I've no doubt that the limo divisions of the US automakers would appreciate it... HTH, R |
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:08:21 -0600, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: The taxes don't bother me much. The tax code *is* complicated and byzantine. Where is the line between, "borrow my car when you're in town" and "this is salary, here's a W-2, don't forget to change the oil" ? Er, nope. Hindery wasn't just a friend, he was a million-dollar-a-year employer. If it had been merely a friend who "loaned" him the limo to take his wife to a yearly anniversary dinner and a coupla-three Broadway shows, it would have been a non-taxable event. The line between "loan of a car" and "taxable income" is murky. In this case, no, it isn't. Just like airline miles, etc., it's considered part of taxable compensation. And again, this wasn't the occasional "loan of a car," it was the regular use of an employer-provided limo. I doubt it would have ever come up if Daschle hadn't caught it on his own and reported it to the IRS. From what I've heard, he didn't "(catch) it on his own and (report) it to the IRS," he got caught by "friendly forces" and was forced to address it. I don't know how to fix that "problem". Well, you could write a letter to yer boy and tell him to quit letting his mouth write checks his ass can't cover...hell, he promised no lobbyists, signed something, and then, immediately started doing "exceptions"... That's what I'm talking about. It's easy enough to say during a campaign but after the campaign you want experienced people. Like John McCain...? The chances of good, experienced people leaving $5 mill on the table between stints of government "service" is somewhere between Splork and VangMu. Shades of "Say hello to my leet-le friend..." I think Daschle is eminently qualified to be health czar, probably one of the most qualified people in the country. And you say this because...? Because it's true. Duh. Uh, yeah...care to cite a reason or three? In some ways lobbyists get a bad rap. The Sierra Club hires a lobbyist and I hope they hire a good one and pay whatever a good one costs. What is lobbying other than having a voice ? Ah. You obviously have no idea whatsoever about lobbying or how the system works. Yeah, yeah, I know. The only people who have a clue are yourself and your fellows of the tinfoil hood. But I'm talking about lobbying on this planet, not your home planet. Lobbying in its essence is petitioning government Yeah, and knocking over a liquor store is in its essence, um, a redistribution of wealth... and you can't make that illegal without changing the constitution. Again, proving that you have no concept of what "lobbying" is... HTH, R |
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The line between "loan of a car" and "taxable income" is murky. I doubt it would have ever come up if Daschle hadn't caught it on his own and reported it to the IRS. I'm glad Daschle withdrew. I think he did it gracefully and out of a sincere desire to avoid political trouble for Obama. Howard Dean would be a natural choice for HHS if only he and Rahm Emanuel didn't hate each other. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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Ken Fortenberry wrote: The line between "loan of a car" and "taxable income" is murky. I doubt it would have ever come up if Daschle hadn't caught it on his own and reported it to the IRS. I'm glad Daschle withdrew. I think he did it gracefully and out of a sincere desire to avoid political trouble for Obama. I agree that he made a graceful exit and that he really didn't have a choice. But I think he was the best guy for that job and I wish the Senate would have confirmed him by now instead of letting this thing dominate the news and the late show comics for the next two or three weeks. Howard Dean would be a natural choice for HHS if only he and Rahm Emanuel didn't hate each other. The two names most often mentioned are Donna Shalala and Kathleen Sebelius. He could pick both making one HHS Secy and the other the White House Health Care adviser. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... Once again, I know perfectly well what lobbying is on *this* planet. As for the concepts involved on your home planet, I guess I'd have to borrow a tinfoil hood to figure that out. actually, I was going to ask you, before Dean beat me to it, what a "Republican lobbyist" was. Sure, some lobbyists and some causes get more play working the GOP side of the aisle, but advocates for any position do so with little regard for party if the votes they need are there. That said, one can clearly see, when Republicans are in power, former GOP office-holders make prime employees at lobbying firms, the opposite would probably prove true at present, with the Democrats calling most of the shots. Tom |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... The two names most often mentioned are Donna Shalala and Kathleen Sebelius. He could pick both making one HHS Secy and the other the White House Health Care adviser. a very possible scenario. Tom |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote: Once again, I know perfectly well what lobbying is on *this* planet. As for the concepts involved on your home planet, I guess I'd have to borrow a tinfoil hood to figure that out. actually, I was going to ask you, before Dean beat me to it, what a "Republican lobbyist" was. And then Tom Littleton answered his own question: Sure, some lobbyists and some causes get more play working the GOP side of the aisle, but advocates for any position do so with little regard for party if the votes they need are there. That said, one can clearly see, when Republicans are in power, former GOP office-holders make prime employees at lobbying firms, the opposite would probably prove true at present, with the Democrats calling most of the shots. Mostly I was thinking about the environmental lobby (Dem) as opposed to the extraction lobby (Rep). But I cannot possibly know what lobbying really is unless rdean teaches me the secret handshake and lets me borrow his tinfoil hood. It's all hush hush and top secret, ya know, only the "connected" can really know what's going on in American politics. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... Mostly I was thinking about the environmental lobby (Dem) as opposed to the extraction lobby (Rep). But I cannot possibly know what lobbying really is unless rdean teaches me the secret handshake and lets me borrow his tinfoil hood. It's all hush hush and top secret, ya know, only the "connected" can really know what's going on in American politics. but, Ken, he is right. Your own example is such oversimplified tripe as to be utter nonsense. If you think the Enviromental Lobbyists are ALL Dems, you would be wrong. Likewise, if you think mineral extraction lobbyists avoid contacting Dems or hiring Dems, you are even more wrong. Easy enough to talk about what RDean may or may not know about politics, or what I may or may not know about politics, but your own writings clearly show that you really don't know politics at all. Might be best to go back and learn something about the whole matter, before you start mocking others. Tom |
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Tom Littleton wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote: Mostly I was thinking about the environmental lobby (Dem) as opposed to the extraction lobby (Rep). But I cannot possibly know what lobbying really is unless rdean teaches me the secret handshake and lets me borrow his tinfoil hood. It's all hush hush and top secret, ya know, only the "connected" can really know what's going on in American politics. but, Ken, he is right. ... No, he's not. Why do you insist on putting words like ALL in my mouth ? Of course my example is oversimplified, I tailored it to the audience. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... Why do you insist on putting words like ALL in my mouth ? because you are the one making oversimplified generalizations. Of course my example is oversimplified, I tailored it to the audience. uh-huh. Except your audience knows what they are talking about, to some extent, while you have yet to demonstrate the same....... Tom |
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Tom Littleton wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote: Why do you insist on putting words like ALL in my mouth ? because you are the one making oversimplified generalizations. Of course my example is oversimplified, I tailored it to the audience. uh-huh. Except your audience knows what they are talking about, to some extent, while you have yet to demonstrate the same....... Apparently my audience has been using Usenet for years but has failed to recognize the usual Usenet conventions. For example: "The problem as I see it is Republican lobbyists. We ought to allow lobbying only for liberals and not fat cat Republicans. That'll fix it. ;-)" Now you see an audience who knew what they were talking about would immediately recognize the emoticon ;-) and realize that sarcasm was intended in that quote. You and rdean, on the other hand, want to pick nits, belittle and niggle over what was clearly intended as sarcasm. A very poor audience indeed for someone like myself. But you guys keep working on it, I trust you'll figure out this whole Usenet thing before it disappears. Better hurry up though. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:15:07 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
uh-huh. Except your audience knows what they are talking about, Aw, shucks... to some extent... **** you, choc... HTH, R ....speaking of which, where the flock is the Florida-cum-Georgia flash and his trailernator...? HEY CHARLIE - IS YOU OUT THERE!?!? |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... well, that was how I read your original reply, given the emoticon. The responses later sort of confused the issue.... Anyhow, in an attempt to return to the original subject, I did have considerable misgivings about Daschle, as the idea of yet another guy, cozied up with one side or the other of the Healthcare issue is the last way to get any progress on what is a serious issue for the nation. Just my two cents, and I am strongly in favor of extreme reform of our healthcare system, in fact, leaning heavily toward a single payer national system. Tom |
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wrote in message ... uh-huh. Except your audience knows what they are talking about, Aw, shucks... hell, who said I was referring to you?g Tom |
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On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:41:33 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
wrote in message .. . uh-huh. Except your audience knows what they are talking about, Aw, shucks... hell, who said I was referring to you?g Tom Aw, well, you know us sausage scions, we presume as to the meat of the matter... TC, R |
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:30:10 -0600, Ken Fortenberry wrote: Tom Littleton wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote: Why do you insist on putting words like ALL in my mouth ? because you are the one making oversimplified generalizations. Of course my example is oversimplified, I tailored it to the audience. uh-huh. Except your audience knows what they are talking about, to some extent, while you have yet to demonstrate the same....... Apparently my audience has been using Usenet for years but has failed to recognize the usual Usenet conventions. For example: "The problem as I see it is Republican lobbyists. We ought to allow lobbying only for liberals and not fat cat Republicans. That'll fix it. ;-)" Now you see an audience who knew what they were talking about would immediately recognize the emoticon ;-) and realize that sarcasm was intended in that quote. You and rdean, on the other hand, want to pick nits, belittle and niggle over what was clearly intended as sarcasm. A very poor audience indeed for someone like myself. But you guys keep working on it, I trust you'll figure out this whole Usenet thing before it disappears. Better hurry up though. |
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wrote in message ... Aw, well, you know us sausage scions, we presume as to the meat of the matter... TC, R ......that, and the fact that no one likes seeing the stuff made, are all one really needs to know about sausages. Tom |
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wrote in message ... Huh? On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:30:10 -0600, Ken Fortenberry wrote: Tom Littleton wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote: Why do you insist on putting words like ALL in my mouth ? because you are the one making oversimplified generalizations. Of course my example is oversimplified, I tailored it to the audience. uh-huh. Except your audience knows what they are talking about, to some extent, while you have yet to demonstrate the same....... Apparently my audience has been using Usenet for years but has failed to recognize the usual Usenet conventions. For example: "The problem as I see it is Republican lobbyists. We ought to allow lobbying only for liberals and not fat cat Republicans. That'll fix it. ;-)" Now you see an audience who knew what they were talking about would immediately recognize the emoticon ;-) and realize that sarcasm was intended in that quote. You and rdean, on the other hand, want to pick nits, belittle and niggle over what was clearly intended as sarcasm. A very poor audience indeed for someone like myself. But you guys keep working on it, I trust you'll figure out this whole Usenet thing before it disappears. Better hurry up though. Ok, Rick, now you're down to top-posting, just to **** him off! Tom |
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Anyhow, in an attempt to return to the original subject, I did have considerable misgivings about Daschle, as the idea of yet another guy, cozied up with one side or the other of the Healthcare issue is the last way to get any progress on what is a serious issue for the nation. Just my two cents, and I am strongly in favor of extreme reform of our healthcare system, in fact, leaning heavily toward a single payer national system. Obama once said that if he were designing a national health care system from scratch he would design a single payer system. I agree, single payer is the best and I would still, like you, prefer it. But we're not starting over from scratch. I don't think single payer is possible right now. To trot out a truism Obama has been using a lot lately, we can't let the perfect be the enemy of the possible. In order to work with what is possible we need to have someone who is intimately knowledgeable. Daschle is. I don't know where you could find someone who is both intimately knowledgeable and *not* cozied up in some way with the health care issue. But I wish Obama good luck in finding such a person. I just hope whoever it is has paid their ****ing taxes. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:50:49 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
wrote in message .. . Huh? On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:30:10 -0600, Ken Fortenberry wrote: Tom Littleton wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote: Why do you insist on putting words like ALL in my mouth ? because you are the one making oversimplified generalizations. Of course my example is oversimplified, I tailored it to the audience. uh-huh. Except your audience knows what they are talking about, to some extent, while you have yet to demonstrate the same....... Apparently my audience has been using Usenet for years but has failed to recognize the usual Usenet conventions. For example: "The problem as I see it is Republican lobbyists. We ought to allow lobbying only for liberals and not fat cat Republicans. That'll fix it. ;-)" Now you see an audience who knew what they were talking about would immediately recognize the emoticon ;-) and realize that sarcasm was intended in that quote. You and rdean, on the other hand, want to pick nits, belittle and niggle over what was clearly intended as sarcasm. A very poor audience indeed for someone like myself. But you guys keep working on it, I trust you'll figure out this whole Usenet thing before it disappears. Better hurry up though. Ok, Rick, now you're down to top-posting, just to **** him off! Tom Hey, sometimes, you just gotta go newkuler... HTH, R |
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:18:25 -0600, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: Tom Littleton wrote: Anyhow, in an attempt to return to the original subject, I did have considerable misgivings about Daschle, as the idea of yet another guy, cozied up with one side or the other of the Healthcare issue is the last way to get any progress on what is a serious issue for the nation. Just my two cents, and I am strongly in favor of extreme reform of our healthcare system, in fact, leaning heavily toward a single payer national system. Obama once said that if he were designing a national health care system from scratch he would design a single payer system. I agree, single payer is the best and I would still, like you, prefer it. Uh-huh.. But we're not starting over from scratch. I don't think single payer is possible right now. To trot out a truism Obama has been using a lot lately, Um, yeah - "I screwed up on that..." we can't let the perfect be the enemy of the possible. Well, that, and "we can't let tax fraud be a hurdle..." In order to work with what is possible we need to have someone who is intimately knowledgeable. Daschle is. OK, so you got me there - when it comes to tax fraud, the FOObaristas got it nailed it cold... I don't know where you could find someone who is both intimately knowledgeable and *not* cozied up in some way with the health care issue. Er, no, probably not, when your pool consists of former Clintonistas, Gorons, lobbyists and other assorted crooks... But I wish Obama good luck in finding such a person. I just hope whoever it is has paid their ****ing taxes. Well, yeah, but again, I don't think Obama is gonna appoint many wealthy Republican supporters... HTH, R |
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:09:01 -0600, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: ... Of course my example is oversimplified, I tailored it to the audience. Yeah - you've framed it magnificently: snip more rdean cutesy Naughty boy, go wash your mouth out with soap. Um...iis the soap tax-deductible...? HTH, R |
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