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George Cleveland February 28th, 2009 09:16 PM

Fishing Tailwaters
 
It still looks as if the early April trip to visit the MIL in
Tennessee is a go. I still plan on fishing one or more of the wadable
tailwater rivers in the general area. But never having fished a trout
tailwater before I'm uncertain as to how to proceed in regards to best
time to be on the water. Is the fishing generally better when the dam
discharge is causing the water to rise or is it better when its
falling? Or, instead, should I look for fishing to be better when the
levels have been stable the longest?

Any help would be appreciated.

family-outdoors February 28th, 2009 11:41 PM

Fishing Tailwaters
 
On Feb 28, 3:16*pm, George Cleveland
wrote:
It still looks as if the early April trip to visit the MIL in
Tennessee is a go. I still plan on fishing one or more of the wadable
tailwater rivers in the general area. But never having fished a trout
tailwater before I'm uncertain as to how to proceed in regards to best
time to be on the water. Is the fishing generally better when the dam
discharge is causing the water to rise or is it better when its
falling? Or, instead, should I look for fishing to be better when the
levels have been stable the longest?

Any help would be appreciated.


My primary experience is on the White below Bull Shoals and there it
is generally considered best when water is stable. However we fished
it last Summer at very high levels and did quite well. The river was
exceedingly difficult to fly fish last year. I won't go into detail
how we did fish it on this forum...at least no live bait was used:).

Probably unnecessary to add this, but I am completely unfamiliar with
the area you will fish and I'll add to be careful about fast rising
water. I once was fishing the Green in Utah and not paying much
attention to my surroundings and fortunately all I lost due to the
rising water was some gear I'd left 20-30ft from where the bank was
when I started.

I should have known better as I lived in the vicinity at the time and
had given the same advice I just gave you to other fishermen. In more
civilized places than the Green and like places, if you are close
enough, there is usually a siren when they begin to release water.

Family-Outdoors.com



[email protected] March 1st, 2009 12:58 AM

Fishing Tailwaters
 
On Feb 28, 4:16*pm, George Cleveland
wrote:
It still looks as if the early April trip to visit the MIL in
Tennessee is a go. I still plan on fishing one or more of the wadable
tailwater rivers in the general area.


George:

April is a great time to visit them. The one I am most familiar with
is the Hiawassee in the SE corner. Last time I was there (Oct) the
water level with no generator running was lower than I remembered when
I used to fish it frequently. Personally I think the best time to fish
it is on the tail end of a release when the water is starting to drop
or when they were pulsing one generator.

There's other waters to fish beyond that if you're interested. What
area of TN are you going to be near?

Wayne

George Cleveland March 1st, 2009 07:23 AM

Fishing Tailwaters
 
On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:58:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Feb 28, 4:16*pm, George Cleveland
wrote:
It still looks as if the early April trip to visit the MIL in
Tennessee is a go. I still plan on fishing one or more of the wadable
tailwater rivers in the general area.


George:

April is a great time to visit them. The one I am most familiar with
is the Hiawassee in the SE corner. Last time I was there (Oct) the
water level with no generator running was lower than I remembered when
I used to fish it frequently. Personally I think the best time to fish
it is on the tail end of a release when the water is starting to drop
or when they were pulsing one generator.

There's other waters to fish beyond that if you're interested. What
area of TN are you going to be near?

Wayne



Near Crossville. I'm looking at the Clinch, since a couple of sites
refer to it as wading friendly. But I'm always open to other
suggestions.

Geo.C.

Bob Patton March 2nd, 2009 02:01 AM

Fishing Tailwaters
 
George,

Make damned sure to check with the TVA for discharge plans for the nearest
dam upstream from where you'll be. You can call this TVA number:
800-238-2264 - and pay attention to the menu of choices. As someone who's
been caught on the wrong side of a rising tailwater, I promise that's
important. Knowing or being able to closely estimate how far you are
downstream from the dam is useful, so that you'll know how much time you
have after the release begins until the water is so high that you can't
cross it. For more info, check this out:
http://www.tva.gov/river/lakeinfo/lake_phone.htm

As far as rising or falling: falling is better unless you have a very good
understanding of exactly how the river will rise, how long it will stay
there, and how you're going to handle it.

--
Bob Patton
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..


"George Cleveland" wrote in message
...
It still looks as if the early April trip to visit the MIL in
Tennessee is a go. I still plan on fishing one or more of the wadable
tailwater rivers in the general area. But never having fished a trout
tailwater before I'm uncertain as to how to proceed in regards to best
time to be on the water. Is the fishing generally better when the dam
discharge is causing the water to rise or is it better when its
falling? Or, instead, should I look for fishing to be better when the
levels have been stable the longest?

Any help would be appreciated.




[email protected] March 2nd, 2009 02:27 AM

Fishing Tailwaters
 
On Mar 1, 9:01*pm, "Bob Patton" wrote:

Make damned sure


And where the hell have you been?

[email protected] March 2nd, 2009 02:31 AM

Fishing Tailwaters
 
On Mar 1, 2:23*am, George Cleveland
wrote:

Near Crossville. I'm looking at the Clinch, since a couple of sites
refer to it as wading friendly. But I'm always open to other
suggestions.


I can't help you with the Clinch directly, I've done the Hiwassee,
Holston, and Watauga but never the Clinch.

Bob's advice is something I should have mentioned. I once invited
Charlie Choc to join me on the Hiwassee and mis-read the schedule and
almost got us in trouble.

Personally, I'd get up early and head to the Smoky's being that close
but the tailwaters can be fun. I'll check my TN TU maps and see if
there's anything that looks promising in the Crossville area.

Wayne


Bob Patton March 2nd, 2009 03:23 AM

Fishing Tailwaters
 
Lurking, mostly. Got a bit tired of seeing people I think are pretty good
folks try to kill each other.
For sure, not doing enough fishing.

--
Bob Patton
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..


wrote in message
...
On Mar 1, 9:01 pm, "Bob Patton" wrote:

Make damned sure


And where the hell have you been?



[email protected] March 2nd, 2009 03:44 AM

Fishing Tailwaters
 
On Mar 1, 10:23*pm, "Bob Patton" wrote:

For sure, not doing enough fishing.


Don't feel like the lone stranger. I've got a week in the Smokys
booked in May, might be the first time this year I get out for
anything other than the neighborhood retention pond.



asadi March 2nd, 2009 03:13 PM

Fishing Tailwaters
 

"George Cleveland" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:58:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Feb 28, 4:16 pm, George Cleveland
wrote:
It still looks as if the early April trip to visit the MIL in
Tennessee is a go. I still plan on fishing one or more of the wadable
tailwater rivers in the general area.


George:

April is a great time to visit them. The one I am most familiar with
is the Hiawassee in the SE corner. Last time I was there (Oct) the
water level with no generator running was lower than I remembered when
I used to fish it frequently. Personally I think the best time to fish
it is on the tail end of a release when the water is starting to drop
or when they were pulsing one generator.

There's other waters to fish beyond that if you're interested. What
area of TN are you going to be near?

Wayne



Near Crossville. I'm looking at the Clinch, since a couple of sites
refer to it as wading friendly. But I'm always open to other
suggestions.

Geo.C.


The Clinch has takes out about as many fisherman as the bears in the Smokies
do tourists..

...extremely rapid water level rises I've heard....best get a discharge
schedule before you hit the water...

john



Peaceful Bill March 2nd, 2009 09:05 PM

Fishing Tailwaters
 
George Cleveland wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:58:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Feb 28, 4:16 pm, George Cleveland
wrote:
It still looks as if the early April trip to visit the MIL in
Tennessee is a go. I still plan on fishing one or more of the wadable
tailwater rivers in the general area.

George:

April is a great time to visit them. The one I am most familiar with
is the Hiawassee in the SE corner. Last time I was there (Oct) the
water level with no generator running was lower than I remembered when
I used to fish it frequently. Personally I think the best time to fish
it is on the tail end of a release when the water is starting to drop
or when they were pulsing one generator.

There's other waters to fish beyond that if you're interested. What
area of TN are you going to be near?

Wayne



Near Crossville. I'm looking at the Clinch, since a couple of sites
refer to it as wading friendly. But I'm always open to other
suggestions.

Geo.C.


Caney Fork below Center Hill Res. Fish at times of non-release. Grey
bead head hares ear, 18" - 24" under a strike indicator. Start at the
boat launch at the camping area just below the dam (west side of river),
work downstream. Very heavily stocked (IIRC 10,000 fish per mile).
Easy to do 100 fish days, but nothing particularly big. There are a few
additional access points downstream including the rest area on I-40. If
you're not near the dam, watch for rapid rise in water.

Check release schedule he

http://lakeinfo.tva.gov/htbin/lakein...bmit=View+info

Its generally wading friendly when there's no release / generation.



Bob Patton March 3rd, 2009 02:00 AM

Fishing Tailwaters
 

Good for you. I may take a couple of days off in mid-March and hit the North
Fork, then maybe a day or two in WNC the last week of May.

--
Bob Patton
(change bgzqsdq to charter to reply)
..


wrote in message
...
On Mar 1, 10:23 pm, "Bob Patton" wrote:

For sure, not doing enough fishing.


Don't feel like the lone stranger. I've got a week in the Smokys
booked in May, might be the first time this year I get out for
anything other than the neighborhood retention pond.




jeff March 3rd, 2009 12:47 PM

Fishing Tailwaters
 
Bob Patton wrote:
Good for you. I may take a couple of days off in mid-March and hit the North
Fork, then maybe a day or two in WNC the last week of May.


hey bob - rachel and i, along with wolfgang and becky, will be in all
the usual wnc places june 14-june 20. if you can make it at that time,
it would be great to see you again and do a bit of fishing together.

jeff

Bob Patton March 4th, 2009 06:02 AM

Fishing Tailwaters
 
"jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Bob Patton wrote:
Good for you. I may take a couple of days off in mid-March and hit the
North Fork, then maybe a day or two in WNC the last week of May.


hey bob - rachel and i, along with wolfgang and becky, will be in all the
usual wnc places june 14-june 20. if you can make it at that time, it
would be great to see you again and do a bit of fishing together.

jeff


That's a great opportunity. I have an event I have to attend on Memorial Day
weekend, but would like to make it work. I'll let you know. Also, a fellow I
know who was born in Proctor wants to go back to Hazel with me, and that's
too good to turn down also. Maybe I could combine . . . (the mind boggles)

--
Bob Patton
(change bgzqsdq to charter to reply)
..



Bob Patton March 4th, 2009 06:02 AM

Fishing Tailwaters
 
"jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Bob Patton wrote:
Good for you. I may take a couple of days off in mid-March and hit the
North Fork, then maybe a day or two in WNC the last week of May.


hey bob - rachel and i, along with wolfgang and becky, will be in all the
usual wnc places june 14-june 20. if you can make it at that time, it
would be great to see you again and do a bit of fishing together.

jeff


That's a great opportunity. I have an event I have to attend on Memorial Day
weekend, but would like to make it work. I'll let you know. Also, a fellow I
know who was born in Proctor wants to go back to Hazel with me, and that's
too good to turn down also. Maybe I could combine . . . (the mind boggles)

--
Bob Patton
(change bgzqsdq to charter to reply)
..



henrystuud March 23rd, 2011 09:37 PM

My main experience is white, has the following Bull Shoals is widely considered the best when the water is stable. However, we explored it last summer at a very high level, and did quite well. The river is extremely difficult flying fish last year.


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