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Okay gents, I have finally put together a somewhat limited
information page for Mayhem on the Madison II. I'm still open for other names for this conclave so if you have one, I'm all ears. :-) I put links to various accommodations, the Cabin Creek FS Campground that will be Clave Central, hatch charts, etc. I got off the phone with the owner of the Slide Inn a few minutes ago (sorry Randy Kane, I interrupted him while he was emailing you g) and he said that he may still have a few rooms available for July. He is in the process of confirming the reservations he has and cancelling some here and there. I would advise you to call ASAP if you are still looking for a place to stay as I am sure they will go fast. I have a new email addy in case you guys want to drop me an email with your questions. The yahoo addy will still work, but my primary email addy is now at earthlink.net . Email addy and link to the web page are in my sig. I am toying with the idea of going out on a little fishing expedition tomorrow up to the where the Clave will be. Kelly said that there is about 5' of snow at the Cabin Creek Campground but that the fishing has been really good with midge patterns (some of the ones I gave him that were the SJ patterns that Bruiser told me to tie up). If this weather keeps up, we very well could be having the clave during high water levels and stonefly hatches so be prepared for difficult wading and kick ass fishing. It will all depend on how spring runoff goes, which I have no control over. Hopefully runoff will be over and the stoneflies will just be hatching while you guys are here. It is just an incredible hatch that I think everyone should fish at least once in their life. Snowpacks are already pretty good and more snow is coming so it is starting to look like it very well could be a really good year for snowpacks around the state. This could mean later runoff, higher river levels, much cooler water temps and several other good things. I'm really looking forward to the fishing next year if this pattern keeps up. The rivers should be in prime shape and make floating much easier. The list of attendees that I currently have is: Dave Martel Jeff Miller IJ Lou Teletski Tom Charlie Choc Tim Lysyk ? Danl & Cindy RW If your name isn't on this list, please drop me a line with your intentions. It makes it much easier for me if I know roughly how many people are coming. -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) earthlink dot net to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
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"Warren" wrote Snowpacks are already pretty good and more snow is coming so it is starting to look like it very well could be a really good year for snowpacks around the state. This could mean later runoff, higher river levels, much cooler water temps and several other good things. G |
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Warren,
Thinking Hard . . . and thinking about driving. Total Est. Time:* 16 hours, 20 minutes Total Est. Distance:*986.55 miles Ouch. I might have a small gap between projects, but will need to confirm as the date grows closer. Anyone from the S.F. Bay Area (or along the route) interested in a "convoy"? Give us a T.R. if you check out the river tomorrow. I did have a nice trip on the Trinity River this past fall, loads of Salmon and Steelhead in the river . . . I had a feeling we would have a wet/heavy snow year based on the numbers of fish we were seeing. -Marshall Warren wrote: Okay gents, I have finally put together a somewhat limited information page for Mayhem on the Madison II. I'm still open for other names for this conclave so if you have one, I'm all ears. :-) I put links to various accommodations, the Cabin Creek FS Campground that will be Clave Central, hatch charts, etc. I got off the phone with the owner of the Slide Inn a few minutes ago (sorry Randy Kane, I interrupted him while he was emailing you g) and he said that he may still have a few rooms available for July. He is in the process of confirming the reservations he has and cancelling some here and there. I would advise you to call ASAP if you are still looking for a place to stay as I am sure they will go fast. I have a new email addy in case you guys want to drop me an email with your questions. The yahoo addy will still work, but my primary email addy is now at earthlink.net . Email addy and link to the web page are in my sig. I am toying with the idea of going out on a little fishing expedition tomorrow up to the where the Clave will be. Kelly said that there is about 5' of snow at the Cabin Creek Campground but that the fishing has been really good with midge patterns (some of the ones I gave him that were the SJ patterns that Bruiser told me to tie up). If this weather keeps up, we very well could be having the clave during high water levels and stonefly hatches so be prepared for difficult wading and kick ass fishing. It will all depend on how spring runoff goes, which I have no control over. Hopefully runoff will be over and the stoneflies will just be hatching while you guys are here. It is just an incredible hatch that I think everyone should fish at least once in their life. Snowpacks are already pretty good and more snow is coming so it is starting to look like it very well could be a really good year for snowpacks around the state. This could mean later runoff, higher river levels, much cooler water temps and several other good things. I'm really looking forward to the fishing next year if this pattern keeps up. The rivers should be in prime shape and make floating much easier. The list of attendees that I currently have is: Dave Martel Jeff Miller IJ Lou Teletski Tom Charlie Choc Tim Lysyk ? Danl & Cindy RW If your name isn't on this list, please drop me a line with your intentions. It makes it much easier for me if I know roughly how many people are coming. -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) earthlink dot net to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html -- NOTE: Please remove "MY_WADERS" from my return Email address if you wish to reply directly. Thanks, M |
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"Marshall Krasser" wrote Total Est. Time: 16 hours, 20 minutes Total Est. Distance: 986.55 miles Ouch. I usually run to Windyyukka, Nv the first day, and on into Island Park/ West Jellystone the next, towing a trailer. And both my vehicle and it's operator are old and slow. It's not that bad a drive, going to Montana ..... it's the grind back to Arnoldland that's a bitch G |
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Great update Warren. You can add me to the list.
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The list of attendees that I currently have is: Dave Martel Jeff Miller IJ Lou Teletski Tom Charlie Choc Tim Lysyk ? Danl & Cindy RW If your name isn't on this list, please drop me a line with your intentions. It makes it much easier for me if I know roughly how many people are coming. I may drive over and join you guys, if that's all right, and if I can get a day off. I'd join you on the Madison but I don't like driving in the dark. I just had a herd of deer cross right in front of my truck on the way into town for dinner. Luckily I was able to stop the truck in time. I hate driving 191 in the dark too. Paul Williamson Livingston, MT please use "paulwilliamson at spamcop.net" for e-mail thanks ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 20:44:24 -0700, Warren wrote:
It is quicker going through Ennis now. The new road is pretty damn nice to drive on and the construction zones weren't bad last time I drove over. The deer can still be a problem if you aren't careful though. Right. The S4 stays home... /daytripper ("Helloooo, United!" ;-) |
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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 20:44:24 -0700, Warren wrote: It is quicker going through Ennis now. The new road is pretty damn nice to drive on and the construction zones weren't bad last time I drove over. The deer can still be a problem if you aren't careful though. Right. The S4 stays home... /daytripper ("Helloooo, United!" ;-) I wouldn't go that far. I drive a little Mazda pickup over there quite often and have only had one "problem" between Bozeman and Four Corners in the last 8+ years. Damn deer jumped out in the road as I was heading into the setting sun.... The real problem is when it gets dark. If you drive sanely with your high beams on, you'll be able to spot the eyes along the road and avoid potential confrontations. 191 has fewer deer/elk once you get through the Park, but it is a windier road that is slower going. The upside is that all of the big rigs are now going to West via 287 and act as "deer plows." I have driven this road many, many, many times and think it is pretty damn safe if you are paying attention, driving within 20 mph of the speed limit and blasting the radio with the windows down. -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
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I'd join you on the Madison but I don't like driving in the dark. I just had a herd of deer cross right in front of my truck on the way into town for dinner. Luckily I was able to stop the truck in time. I hate driving 191 in the dark too. Paul Williamson Livingston, MT please use "paulwilliamson at spamcop.net" for e-mail thanks I hear ya, Paul. The deer in our area are thicker than liberals on roff:) I'm about ready to purchase a "deer vaporizer" for the front of my 2003 Dodge Quad. A couple of years ago I hit a deer causing just under $5,000 to our 2001 Accord. You always worry about reliability after a major rebuild. I plan on keeping this truck a long time. And, Warren, I plan on attending. Snoop -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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I hear ya, Paul. The deer in our area are thicker than liberals on roff:) I'm about ready to purchase a "deer vaporizer" for the front of my 2003 Dodge Quad. A couple of years ago I hit a deer causing just under $5,000 to our 2001 Accord. You always worry about reliability after a major rebuild. I plan on keeping this truck a long time. I'll get you the name of a kick ass front bumper system that can withstand hitting a large steer at 60 MPH without damaging the vehicle. At least that's what they say.... Here's a pic of the bumper. http://home.earthlink.net/~troutbum_mt/bumper/bumper Here's one to avoid though: http://home.earthlink.net/~troutbum_...olfgiggle2.jpg And, Warren, I plan on attending. Glad to hear it Snoop! I apologize for slacking on the package I am sending you. I think you will agree that it is worth the wait though. :-) -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
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I may drive over and join you guys, if that's all right, and if I can get a day off. You get a day off and I will come over, pick you up and bring you home. You are too nice Warren! :-) I'd join you on the Madison but I don't like driving in the dark. I just had a herd of deer cross right in front of my truck on the way into town for dinner. Luckily I was able to stop the truck in time. I hate driving 191 in the dark too. It is quicker going through Ennis now. The new road is pretty damn nice to drive on and the construction zones weren't bad last time I drove over. The deer can still be a problem if you aren't careful though. I have been thinking about heading to the lower Madison some day soon, as the Yellowstone is still icey and always seems to be this winter. Am curious about the road construction (they aren't doing any thing now, right?). BTW, I fished Armstrong's last week. No wind, overcast, in the 30's. In other words, the ideal conditions for rising fish every where. No hatch really, and the fish in the lower pool were barely rising. Couldn't believe it. Had to resort to midge larva and an egg! Hate to do it, but I did! There were some "spawning" browns and rainbows. We fished the honey hole by where you park and none of us caught any thing! Wow! 1st time for that! I didn't see the numbers of fish that I've seen in the past. Thanks Warren. Paul Williamson Livingston, MT please use "paulwilliamson at spamcop.net" for e-mail thanks ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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I hear ya, Paul. The deer in our area are thicker than liberals on roff:) You got to be kidding me! I thought I was alone here! Darn near added so many people to my kill file that I was hardly getting any new posts! :-) In fact, this is the 1st time I've posted here in about 2 months! Been lurking though, of course. I'm about ready to purchase a "deer vaporizer" for the front of my 2003 Dodge Quad. A couple of years ago I hit a deer causing just under $5,000 to our 2001 Accord. You always worry about reliability after a major rebuild. I plan on keeping this truck a long time. We've hit two deer in the last 6 months. First ones in about 30 years of driving. Like I said, we narrowly avoided hitting a herd tonight. I am paranoid now and am not going to drive in the dark or at dawn and dusk unless I have to! That's the main reason I don't go to our TU meetings. 2nd is that they start at 6:30PM and I am not about to start cooking our dinner at 4pm! Plus, there is the old guys with bald heads and pony tail factor which I try to avoid when possible G Thanks! Paul Williamson Livingston, MT please use "paulwilliamson at spamcop.net" for e-mail thanks ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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I'll get you the name of a kick ass front bumper system that can withstand hitting a large steer at 60 MPH without damaging the vehicle. At least that's what they say.... Here's a pic of the bumper. The second one ran into the side of our truck right by the Exxon at 19th street! Couldn't belike it! Had no choice to hit it head on. Paul Williamson Livingston, MT please use "paulwilliamson at spamcop.net" for e-mail thanks ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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http://home.earthlink.net/~troutbum_mt/bumper/bumper That is you Warren?? LOL! I see your boat a lot on the Yellowstone! Always wondered who that NASCAR boat belonged to! I've been pondering sponsorships for years. Just that I won't put any stickers on my beautiful Clacka!! :-) Except maybe a yellow paintball splat one g -pw Paul Williamson Livingston, MT please use "paulwilliamson at spamcop.net" for e-mail thanks ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 00:46:42 -0700, pw
wrote: Plus, there is the old guys with bald heads and pony tail factor which I try to avoid when possible G What is with it with those guys? Do they not know how they look? I know they don't often see the backs of their own heads, but they have to see other pony tailed balding guys and be able to feel the skin where there should be hair... Might be cool when they get all the way to the monk's tonsure look to have a 'tail, but not in that middling stage. -- rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing. Often taunted by trout. Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it. http://www.visi.com/~cyli |
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If your name isn't on this list, please drop me a line with your intentions. It makes it much easier for me if I know roughly how many people are coming. Pat and I will be there (assuming nobody dies that week and my parts are all working). |
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On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 01:49:23 GMT, Marshall Krasser
wrote: Total Est. Time:* 16 hours, 20 minutes Total Est. Distance:*986.55 miles Ouch. For me it's: Total Est. Time: 31 hours, 21 minutes Total Est. Distance: 1924.16 miles. g -- Charlie... |
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Snoop wrote:snipI'm about ready to purchase a "deer vaporizer" for the front
of my 2003 Dodge Quad I had one made for my Ford back in 81 by going to the welding shop and pointing at the 8 inch channel for a start for the bumper and then went very substantial for the grill guard. Never could buy overload shocks that were up to the additional weight and it looked like I had lowered the front of the truck, but I never noticed running over anything as long as I owned that truck. BIg Dale |
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I am still considering the ride up there. I wish it did not take me three days
to get there. Yesterday morning I strapped a rod to the old BMW bike and took a ride to a pond in a neighboring town. The new Temple Fork 3 weight gets a nice bend in it with a 3/4 pound bluegill on. It was nice riding the bike again with no coat in the 75 degree weather. Big Dale |
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"Charlie Choc" wrote in message ... On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 01:49:23 GMT, Marshall Krasser wrote: Total Est. Time: 16 hours, 20 minutes Total Est. Distance: 986.55 miles Ouch. For me it's: Total Est. Time: 31 hours, 21 minutes Total Est. Distance: 1924.16 miles. g -- Charlie... Indian Joe says--for me it's a blues festival in Mississippi, a pow wow in Okalahoma, five nights of sleeping in the white elephant and ten manhattans |
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Warren wrote:
I'll get you the name of a kick ass front bumper system that can withstand hitting a large steer at 60 MPH without damaging the vehicle. At least that's what they say.... Here's a pic of the bumper. http://home.earthlink.net/~troutbum_mt/bumper/bumper I think that's a Ranch Hand bumper. Kinda ugly but hell for stout. Looks OK on a Ford though:) Here's the one I'm getting: http://www.buckstop.biz/dodge03.html Anyone driving a truck from the Portland area through northern Wyoming that can haul some really big boxes for me? Snoop -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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pw wrote:
We've hit two deer in the last 6 months. First ones in about 30 years of driving. Like I said, we narrowly avoided hitting a herd tonight. I am paranoid now and am not going to drive in the dark or at dawn and dusk unless I have to! We probably have more deer strikes in town than in the country. We really do have an overpopulation problem. Folks in town feed the deer. Deer will lay on the south side of houses and soak up the sun. It's impossible to have a garden or grow trees and shrubs. I used to have some pine trees in the yard but the buck antelope like to rub their horns on them and now there are no trees left. I've had over 20 antelope in my yard on some occasions. A couple of years ago, a semi hit 6 elk on I25 south of town. Yeah, paranoid is the word. That's the main reason I don't go to our TU meetings. 2nd is that they start at 6:30PM and I am not about to start cooking our dinner at 4pm! Plus, there is the old guys with bald heads and pony tail factor which I try to avoid when possible G Our TU chapter is in Sheridan (although I think it's now inactive). But, when they were active, the meetings were at night and it was a 70 mile round trip for me. A slow trip because I drove 50-55 mph. Nothing wrong with bald. Maybe the pony tails were just "comb overs" that they didn't have time to arrange Snoop -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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"Warren" wrote in message ... http://home.earthlink.net/~troutbum_mt/bumper/bumper Here's one to avoid though: http://home.earthlink.net/~troutbum_...olfgiggle2.jpg That's one big float boat George had, to accommodate a port-a-john in the bow! Op |
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I have been thinking about heading to the lower Madison some day soon, as the Yellowstone is still icey and always seems to be this winter. Am curious about the road construction (they aren't doing any thing now, right?). There is not any road construction currently going on that I know of. They pretty much quit around October/November and start up again in the spring. You may want to check with some of the shops over here before making a trip over to the Lower Madison. I haven't fished there in quite some time and given the way things are, it could also be icy. BTW, I fished Armstrong's last week. No wind, overcast, in the 30's. In other words, the ideal conditions for rising fish every where. No hatch really, and the fish in the lower pool were barely rising. Couldn't believe it. Had to resort to midge larva and an egg! Hate to do it, but I did! There were some "spawning" browns and rainbows. We fished the honey hole by where you park and none of us caught any thing! Wow! 1st time for that! I didn't see the numbers of fish that I've seen in the past. Sounds like a great day to be out if nothing else! There are not many days over that way without wind.... g -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
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On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 12:57:52 GMT, "Joe McIntosh"
wrote: Indian Joe says--for me it's a blues festival in Mississippi, a pow wow in Okalahoma, five nights of sleeping in the white elephant and ten manhattans I'm planning on spending the 2 weeks before the clave around Yellowstone/Grand Teton, the week after on Rock Crick, and then maybe down through the 4 corners region on the way back. I can do all that with no manhattans. g -- Charlie... |
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I think that's a Ranch Hand bumper. Kinda ugly but hell for stout. Looks OK on a Ford though:) Yeah, that was the name of it. Damn stout bumper. . Here's the one I'm getting: http://www.buckstop.biz/dodge03.html That's not bad looking at all. Do they only come in silver? -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
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That is you Warren?? LOL! I see your boat a lot on the Yellowstone! Always wondered who that NASCAR boat belonged to! The boat certainly gets noticed..... The boat actually belonged to George and was obviously used as advertisement for his business. He let me borrow it the summer before he died and his widow asked me if I wanted to use it again this past summer. I have become somewhat attached to the boat due to all the good memories associated with it. I've been pondering sponsorships for years. Just that I won't put any stickers on my beautiful Clacka!! :-) Except maybe a yellow paintball splat one g Might look cool to do the front as a shark mouth like they did on those old airplanes. Or you could paint flames down the side and put fuzzy "dash" material on the leg locks. You could even hang some fuzzy dice off the oar locks.... Maybe add a hydraulic seat so that you could bump and row. Hell, there are just too many possibilities! bseg -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
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Warren wrote:
Here's the one I'm getting: http://www.buckstop.biz/dodge03.html That's not bad looking at all. Do they only come in silver? Nope. Other colors are available. It's a powder coat finish which should be a bit better than plain, painted steel. Here's a neat bumper we looked at on the way down to the San Juan. It's an aluminum, winch bumper made with 3/8" & 1/2" aluminum plate. Very well made. But, the bumpers for the 2003 require the addition of a bottom plate to protect the bottom of the radiator and the manufacturer doesn't supply this so I lost interest. http://makeashorterlink.com/?K69D522F6 Snoop -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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That's one big float boat George had, to accommodate a port-a-john in the bow! It kind of sucks when you hit the rapids because you have to worry about things sloshing around and spilling. g -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
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Here's a neat bumper we looked at on the way down to the San Juan. It's an aluminum, winch bumper made with 3/8" & 1/2" aluminum plate. Very well made. But, the bumpers for the 2003 require the addition of a bottom plate to protect the bottom of the radiator and the manufacturer doesn't supply this so I lost interest. I would have lost interest at "aluminum" :-) -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
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Snoop wrote:snip I think that's a Ranch Hand bumper. Kinda ugly but hell
for stout. Looks OK on a Ford though:) I had a Ranch Hand rear bumper on a 3/4 ton Chevy about a decade ago after a kid tore up the factory bumper by backing into the truck. It looked hell for stout, but I never tested it as the truck was never wrecked after that. Big Dale |
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We probably have more deer strikes in town than in the country. We really do have an overpopulation problem. Folks in town feed the deer. Deer will lay on The state isn't issuing many doe tags, if any as far as I know. I haven't met any one with one. Paul Williamson Livingston, MT please use "paulwilliamson at spamcop.net" for e-mail thanks ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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The state isn't issuing many doe tags, if any as far as I know. I haven't met any one with one. You can get over the counter B tags for several areas and your A tag is good for either sex whitetail all over. I used to get B tags for the Gallatin Special Weapons area but didn't buy one this year. Access in that area is getting more and more difficult..... -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
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The state isn't issuing many doe tags, if any as far as I know. I haven't met any one with one. You can get over the counter B tags for several areas and your A tag is good for either sex whitetail all over. I used to get B tags for the Gallatin Special Weapons area but didn't buy one this year. Access in that area is getting more and more difficult..... Thanks Warren! Paul Williamson Livingston, MT please use "paulwilliamson at spamcop.net" for e-mail thanks ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
Western Conclave Update
I'm giving it a good thought....put me on the list as tentative. May need
to cut some time out of the Penn Clave, but I'm dying to get out to your neck of the woods. I have to warn you, the last four times I went on vacation I had to deal with a Hurricane (in the Outer Banks), search and rescue at Boca Grande (after nearly capsizing ourselves), 20 year low temperatures in the Keys, and pnemonia that put my 2 year old in a Port Charlotte Hospital for 6 days (this doesn't include the rain and high water at the Penn's Clave the past two years, although this past year wasn't too bad). Needless to say I'm a bit snake bitten, so bring layers, rain gear, floatation devices (is Frank Reid coming?), antibiotics, and batten down the hatches well, if I do actually plan on showing. If I bum a ride from anyone you may want to have one of them there fancy bumper systems, I'm sure an Elk will jump out in front of me.. Is the Slide Inn and/or other accommodations close to Clave Central? I prefer to camp, but don't know if I want to have to deal with shipping all of the camping crap or not. Will also need a box, or four, or flies. I saw your links but which is the best, and are the fish as selective to fly patterns, as compared to Penn's, or can I just throw a shiny hook out there and catch 20 inchers?? Mike ten.tsacmoc@alekamm - just reverse it. "Warren" wrote in message ... Okay gents, I have finally put together a somewhat limited information page for Mayhem on the Madison II. I'm still open for other names for this conclave so if you have one, I'm all ears. :-) I put links to various accommodations, the Cabin Creek FS Campground that will be Clave Central, hatch charts, etc. I got off the phone with the owner of the Slide Inn a few minutes ago (sorry Randy Kane, I interrupted him while he was emailing you g) and he said that he may still have a few rooms available for July. He is in the process of confirming the reservations he has and cancelling some here and there. I would advise you to call ASAP if you are still looking for a place to stay as I am sure they will go fast. I have a new email addy in case you guys want to drop me an email with your questions. The yahoo addy will still work, but my primary email addy is now at earthlink.net . Email addy and link to the web page are in my sig. I am toying with the idea of going out on a little fishing expedition tomorrow up to the where the Clave will be. Kelly said that there is about 5' of snow at the Cabin Creek Campground but that the fishing has been really good with midge patterns (some of the ones I gave him that were the SJ patterns that Bruiser told me to tie up). If this weather keeps up, we very well could be having the clave during high water levels and stonefly hatches so be prepared for difficult wading and kick ass fishing. It will all depend on how spring runoff goes, which I have no control over. Hopefully runoff will be over and the stoneflies will just be hatching while you guys are here. It is just an incredible hatch that I think everyone should fish at least once in their life. Snowpacks are already pretty good and more snow is coming so it is starting to look like it very well could be a really good year for snowpacks around the state. This could mean later runoff, higher river levels, much cooler water temps and several other good things. I'm really looking forward to the fishing next year if this pattern keeps up. The rivers should be in prime shape and make floating much easier. The list of attendees that I currently have is: Dave Martel Jeff Miller IJ Lou Teletski Tom Charlie Choc Tim Lysyk ? Danl & Cindy RW If your name isn't on this list, please drop me a line with your intentions. It makes it much easier for me if I know roughly how many people are coming. -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) earthlink dot net to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
Western Conclave Update
Mike M asks:
can I just throw a shiny hook out there and catch 20 inchers?? if said hook is attached to suitable stonefly nymph(possibly darker variations), you can probably do as you do in the East. This from the limited experiences I have stumbled through out West. Tom |
Western Conclave Update
ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote...
I'm giving it a good thought....put me on the list as tentative. snipped bad mojo Will do Mike. Is the Slide Inn and/or other accommodations close to Clave Central? I prefer to camp, but don't know if I want to have to deal with shipping all of the camping crap or not. All of the accommodations on the web page are close to Clave Central. In terms of closeness: Campfire Lodge (right across the road from the campground) Slide Inn (very close and better accommodations than Campfire) Howlin' Mad Moon Resorts (not far from the Slide Inn and looks ok) Madison River Cabins & RV West Fork Cabin & RV (about 13 or 14 miles down 287 from Clave Central) Wade Lake Cabins If you want to camp, I can have gear waiting for you out here. Tent, sleeping bag, can chare my cooking gear, etc. Will also need a box, or four, or flies. I saw your links but which is the best, and are the fish as selective to fly patterns, as compared to Penn's, or can I just throw a shiny hook out there and catch 20 inchers?? The fish can be very selective at times and definitely aren't easy enough to take a shiny hook. We very well could be fishing anything from huge salmonfly dries (Sofa Pillows, Stimulators, etc) to SJ size midge patterns depending on what is going on and where we will be fishing. If you plan on tying your own flies, Remember that size and colors are different from Penn's. I could send you examples of certain flies you may want to have for the clave. The golden stones that you had at Penn's should work out here and I am sure that a few of your other flies will be useful as well. Personally, I use the Bud Lilly and Madison River Outfitters hatch charts the most for the Madison River. I labeled the others as "Yellowstone" that are good for areas in the Park and the Yellowstone River itself. Some of the fly shops also have fly tying info on their web site that will give you an idea of size and color as well. Another good place to check is Harry Mason's web site at: http://www.troutflies.com/ Harry's site has very good pics as well as tutorials. If I wanted to buy flies online for this clave, I would buy them from Harry. Not only are his flies good but he has some experience with fishing in this area and may be another good source of info. -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
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