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SteveB May 6th, 2009 01:22 AM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 
Got some questions, and can't find a newsgroup.



Ken Fortenberry[_2_] May 6th, 2009 02:08 AM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 
SteveB wrote:
Got some questions, and can't find a newsgroup.


Yeah, I'm a crappie fisherman. Ultra-light spinning rig,
2 lb. test and a 1/32 oz. bucktail jig. Find one crappie
and you've found a bunch.

You might try rec.outdoors.fishing, if there's any more
discussion here Ronnie the net kop will be all over it
like a ton of bricks on a rotten pumpkin.

--
Ken Fortenberry

SteveB May 6th, 2009 03:44 AM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:
Got some questions, and can't find a newsgroup.


Yeah, I'm a crappie fisherman. Ultra-light spinning rig,
2 lb. test and a 1/32 oz. bucktail jig. Find one crappie
and you've found a bunch.

You might try rec.outdoors.fishing, if there's any more
discussion here Ronnie the net kop will be all over it
like a ton of bricks on a rotten pumpkin.

--
Ken Fortenberry


You have a moderator? Or just a self appointed net nanny?



Ronnie May 6th, 2009 04:50 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 
Now that is a hoot, I don't care who you are!

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com


Bob La Londe May 6th, 2009 05:47 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:
Got some questions, and can't find a newsgroup.


Yeah, I'm a crappie fisherman. Ultra-light spinning rig,
2 lb. test and a 1/32 oz. bucktail jig. Find one crappie
and you've found a bunch.

You might try rec.outdoors.fishing, if there's any more
discussion here Ronnie the net kop will be all over it
like a ton of bricks on a rotten pumpkin.


Now that's Ken calling the Ronnie Ken. LOL




Ken Fortenberry[_2_] May 6th, 2009 06:11 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
SteveB wrote:
Got some questions, and can't find a newsgroup.


Yeah, I'm a crappie fisherman. Ultra-light spinning rig,
2 lb. test and a 1/32 oz. bucktail jig. Find one crappie
and you've found a bunch.

You might try rec.outdoors.fishing, if there's any more
discussion here Ronnie the net kop will be all over it
like a ton of bricks on a rotten pumpkin.


Now that's Ken calling the Ronnie Ken. LOL


Hell, Ronnie plays the off-topic net nanny on posts that aren't
even off-topic. I posted a trip report about my first time out
in the canoe bass fishing with my new puppy and Ronnie went all
smart-assed net nanny on it.

I'll tell you what this really is. It's the SPAM kop calling
Ronnie a net kop.

LOL is optional.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Marty[_2_] May 7th, 2009 12:45 AM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 
www.crappie.com

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Got some questions, and can't find a newsgroup.




SteveB May 7th, 2009 05:24 AM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 

"Marty" wrote in message
...
www.crappie.com


Dang. A crappie site I haven't been to. Utah doesn't have a state forum.
I guess not a lot of crappie fishing here. I live in XXtreme SW Utah, and
it has the state record for crappie, a 3#2oz. slab. Guess I'll just have to
figure it out myself with the warming water temps, currently 64. Lots of
crappie in this lake, but not a lot of people fish them.

Steve



"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Got some questions, and can't find a newsgroup.






Bob La Londe May 8th, 2009 06:24 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
news:ixjMl.29276

LOL is optional.


I have to remember not to pick on you.


Ken Fortenberry[_2_] May 8th, 2009 06:39 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
LOL is optional.


I have to remember not to pick on you.


The lesson to remember is not to go all smart-assed, off-topic
net nanny on posts that are on topic. Not that you ever would.

--
Ken Fortenberry

SteveB May 8th, 2009 07:08 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
LOL is optional.


I have to remember not to pick on you.


The lesson to remember is not to go all smart-assed, off-topic
net nanny on posts that are on topic. Not that you ever would.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Wow. I'm off to pop some popcorn. This is getting good.

Steve ;-)



Bob La Londe May 8th, 2009 07:42 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
LOL is optional.


I have to remember not to pick on you.


The lesson to remember is not to go all smart-assed, off-topic
net nanny on posts that are on topic. Not that you ever would.



ROFL. Dang it Ken. Yer killing me.

So you been daintily dabbing at the water lately?


Bob La Londe May 8th, 2009 07:49 PM

Great Battles of Fiction
 
Rocky Vs Ali

Freddy Vs Jason

Alien Vs Predator

Spam Cop Vs Net Nanny

Dainty Dabber Vs Bass Wincher



Ken Fortenberry[_2_] May 8th, 2009 09:33 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
The lesson to remember is not to go all smart-assed, off-topic
net nanny on posts that are on topic. Not that you ever would.


ROFL. Dang it Ken. Yer killing me.

So you been daintily dabbing at the water lately?


Everything around here is brown, muddy and blown out. I may drive
up to the driftless next week to daintily dab at some little brookies.

I'll be in northern Wisconsin right after the muskie opener for
Ken's Annual Midwestern Fly Fishing Trifecta Extravaganza. I'll
dab daintily at little brookies in the backwoods trout streams of
the yoop, cast poppers at trophy smallies in the Sylvania and heave
big heavy gobs of rabbit fur at muskies around Boulder Junction for
a couple of weeks. The last week of May and the first week of June
is a good time to use everything in the bag. All the fly rods, 1wt
to 9wt, will get a workout. It's a great time to be in that neck of
the woods so long as you remember to bring the deet. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry[_2_] May 8th, 2009 09:35 PM

Great Battles of Fiction
 
Bob La Londe wrote:
Rocky Vs Ali

Freddy Vs Jason

Alien Vs Predator

Spam Cop Vs Net Nanny

Dainty Dabber Vs Bass Wincher


What are you, the stick that stirs the **** ? LOL !

--
Ken Fortenberry

Bob La Londe May 9th, 2009 05:48 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
The lesson to remember is not to go all smart-assed, off-topic
net nanny on posts that are on topic. Not that you ever would.


ROFL. Dang it Ken. Yer killing me.

So you been daintily dabbing at the water lately?


Everything around here is brown, muddy and blown out. I may drive
up to the driftless next week to daintily dab at some little brookies.

I'll be in northern Wisconsin right after the muskie opener for
Ken's Annual Midwestern Fly Fishing Trifecta Extravaganza. I'll
dab daintily at little brookies in the backwoods trout streams of
the yoop, cast poppers at trophy smallies in the Sylvania and heave
big heavy gobs of rabbit fur at muskies around Boulder Junction for
a couple of weeks. The last week of May and the first week of June
is a good time to use everything in the bag. All the fly rods, 1wt
to 9wt, will get a workout. It's a great time to be in that neck of
the woods so long as you remember to bring the deet. ;-)



You know Ken. I actually own two fly rods. A 5wt which I pretty much use
for everything, and 7/8 that I use for giant rabbit fur streamers (look like
worms in the water to me) and large poppers. They aren't Sage or St Croix
or anything like that. The 5wt which I like better and has a much better
feel is a Wal-Mart special, and the 7/8 is a Scientific Angler special, and
feels like using a soggy log. I can lay down some pretty tiny flies with
the 5wt so I never saw any need to get a lighter rod. After experimenting I
have found I can do pretty well with the larger stuff with it too. The only
good reason I take both rods on the rare occasions when I fly cast is so I
do not have to stop and change leaders if I decide the monster size bugs
will produce a bass or some good size panfish. In open water I can pretty
much land anything on the 5wt and as an experienced bass wincher I already
know if something gets back in the trash its just patience and luck to get
it back out. P.S. I used to own three fly rods, but when my rod rack got
knocked over a year ago that was one of the rods that didn't make it back
out of the melee. I wouldn't even own the 7/8 or the one that got broken (a
6/7) if it weren't some comments you made a long time ago on ROFF.

Of course I almost never do any really long line presentation on a fly rod
so a lot of the subtleties are no doubt lost on this bass wincher.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com






Bob La Londe May 9th, 2009 05:48 PM

Great Battles of Fiction
 
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Bob La Londe wrote:
Rocky Vs Ali

Freddy Vs Jason

Alien Vs Predator

Spam Cop Vs Net Nanny

Dainty Dabber Vs Bass Wincher


What are you, the stick that stirs the **** ? LOL !


Are you feeling stirred?


Ken Fortenberry[_2_] May 10th, 2009 03:08 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
... The last week of May and the first week of June
is a good time to use everything in the bag. All the fly rods, 1wt
to 9wt, will get a workout. ...


You know Ken. I actually own two fly rods. A 5wt which I pretty much
use for everything, and 7/8 that I use for giant rabbit fur streamers
(look like worms in the water to me) and large poppers. They aren't
Sage or St Croix or anything like that. The 5wt which I like better and
has a much better feel is a Wal-Mart special, and the 7/8 is a
Scientific Angler special, and feels like using a soggy log. I can lay
down some pretty tiny flies with the 5wt so I never saw any need to get
a lighter rod. After experimenting I have found I can do pretty well
with the larger stuff with it too. The only good reason I take both
rods on the rare occasions when I fly cast is so I do not have to stop
and change leaders if I decide the monster size bugs will produce a bass
or some good size panfish. In open water I can pretty much land
anything on the 5wt and as an experienced bass wincher I already know if
something gets back in the trash its just patience and luck to get it
back out. P.S. I used to own three fly rods, but when my rod rack got
knocked over a year ago that was one of the rods that didn't make it
back out of the melee. I wouldn't even own the 7/8 or the one that got
broken (a 6/7) if it weren't some comments you made a long time ago on
ROFF.

Of course I almost never do any really long line presentation on a fly
rod so a lot of the subtleties are no doubt lost on this bass wincher.


Yeah, having a rod rack full of fly rods is more luxury than necessity
but they do accumulate over the years as you get them for specific
situations. For largemouth, read big, honking, wind-eating bugs, a
lot of folks like an 8wt. In fact, there was a fly fishing magazine
devoted to largemouth fishing titled 8 Wt Journal. For smallies my
preference is a 6wt and if I were allowed only one fly rod (shudder ;-),
for trout it'd be a 5wt.

But all this is changing as fly rod manufacturers all seem to be
migrating to the "faster is better" philosophy, especially in the
bigger weights. Part of the reason is that the higher modulus boron,
graphite blends allow them to make faster rods and part of it is
keeping up with the Joneses. If Sage makes a fast rod, Loomis will
make one faster and Scott will try to one up that. And of course,
there are fly fishermen who always have to have the latest and greatest
so there's always been a market for "new and improved" when "old
and traditional" still works just fine.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Bob La Londe May 10th, 2009 03:41 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
... The last week of May and the first week of June
is a good time to use everything in the bag. All the fly rods, 1wt
to 9wt, will get a workout. ...


You know Ken. I actually own two fly rods. A 5wt which I pretty much
use for everything, and 7/8 that I use for giant rabbit fur streamers
(look like worms in the water to me) and large poppers. They aren't Sage
or St Croix or anything like that. The 5wt which I like better and has a
much better feel is a Wal-Mart special, and the 7/8 is a Scientific
Angler special, and feels like using a soggy log. I can lay down some
pretty tiny flies with the 5wt so I never saw any need to get a lighter
rod. After experimenting I have found I can do pretty well with the
larger stuff with it too. The only good reason I take both rods on the
rare occasions when I fly cast is so I do not have to stop and change
leaders if I decide the monster size bugs will produce a bass or some
good size panfish. In open water I can pretty much land anything on the
5wt and as an experienced bass wincher I already know if something gets
back in the trash its just patience and luck to get it back out. P.S. I
used to own three fly rods, but when my rod rack got knocked over a year
ago that was one of the rods that didn't make it back out of the melee.
I wouldn't even own the 7/8 or the one that got broken (a 6/7) if it
weren't some comments you made a long time ago on ROFF.

Of course I almost never do any really long line presentation on a fly
rod so a lot of the subtleties are no doubt lost on this bass wincher.


Yeah, having a rod rack full of fly rods is more luxury than necessity
but they do accumulate over the years as you get them for specific
situations. For largemouth, read big, honking, wind-eating bugs, a
lot of folks like an 8wt. In fact, there was a fly fishing magazine
devoted to largemouth fishing titled 8 Wt Journal. For smallies my
preference is a 6wt and if I were allowed only one fly rod (shudder ;-),
for trout it'd be a 5wt.

But all this is changing as fly rod manufacturers all seem to be
migrating to the "faster is better" philosophy, especially in the
bigger weights. Part of the reason is that the higher modulus boron,
graphite blends allow them to make faster rods and part of it is
keeping up with the Joneses. If Sage makes a fast rod, Loomis will
make one faster and Scott will try to one up that. And of course,
there are fly fishermen who always have to have the latest and greatest
so there's always been a market for "new and improved" when "old
and traditional" still works just fine.

--
Ken Fortenberry



Bob La Londe May 10th, 2009 03:44 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
... The last week of May and the first week of June
is a good time to use everything in the bag. All the fly rods, 1wt
to 9wt, will get a workout. ...


You know Ken. I actually own two fly rods. A 5wt which I pretty much
use for everything, and 7/8 that I use for giant rabbit fur streamers
(look like worms in the water to me) and large poppers. They aren't Sage
or St Croix or anything like that. The 5wt which I like better and has a
much better feel is a Wal-Mart special, and the 7/8 is a Scientific
Angler special, and feels like using a soggy log. I can lay down some
pretty tiny flies with the 5wt so I never saw any need to get a lighter
rod. After experimenting I have found I can do pretty well with the
larger stuff with it too. The only good reason I take both rods on the
rare occasions when I fly cast is so I do not have to stop and change
leaders if I decide the monster size bugs will produce a bass or some
good size panfish. In open water I can pretty much land anything on the
5wt and as an experienced bass wincher I already know if something gets
back in the trash its just patience and luck to get it back out. P.S. I
used to own three fly rods, but when my rod rack got knocked over a year
ago that was one of the rods that didn't make it back out of the melee.
I wouldn't even own the 7/8 or the one that got broken (a 6/7) if it
weren't some comments you made a long time ago on ROFF.

Of course I almost never do any really long line presentation on a fly
rod so a lot of the subtleties are no doubt lost on this bass wincher.


Yeah, having a rod rack full of fly rods is more luxury than necessity
but they do accumulate over the years as you get them for specific
situations. For largemouth, read big, honking, wind-eating bugs, a
lot of folks like an 8wt. In fact, there was a fly fishing magazine
devoted to largemouth fishing titled 8 Wt Journal. For smallies my
preference is a 6wt and if I were allowed only one fly rod (shudder ;-),
for trout it'd be a 5wt.

But all this is changing as fly rod manufacturers all seem to be
migrating to the "faster is better" philosophy, especially in the
bigger weights. Part of the reason is that the higher modulus boron,
graphite blends allow them to make faster rods and part of it is
keeping up with the Joneses. If Sage makes a fast rod, Loomis will
make one faster and Scott will try to one up that. And of course,
there are fly fishermen who always have to have the latest and greatest
so there's always been a market for "new and improved" when "old
and traditional" still works just fine.


Is there any truth to the faster is better? I guess it would certainly help
with hook setting on some species like largemouth, but I've always just
loaded up the rod and hung on trying to gentle the fish in. How about for
presentation? It seems to me if the rod is too fast it would make it hard
to make full casts because you couldn't feel the rod load up right on the
back cast. I guess I have to find one and try it now.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com




SteveB May 10th, 2009 04:39 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
... The last week of May and the first week of June
is a good time to use everything in the bag. All the fly rods, 1wt
to 9wt, will get a workout. ...

You know Ken. I actually own two fly rods. A 5wt which I pretty much
use for everything, and 7/8 that I use for giant rabbit fur streamers
(look like worms in the water to me) and large poppers. They aren't
Sage or St Croix or anything like that. The 5wt which I like better and
has a much better feel is a Wal-Mart special, and the 7/8 is a
Scientific Angler special, and feels like using a soggy log. I can lay
down some pretty tiny flies with the 5wt so I never saw any need to get
a lighter rod. After experimenting I have found I can do pretty well
with the larger stuff with it too. The only good reason I take both
rods on the rare occasions when I fly cast is so I do not have to stop
and change leaders if I decide the monster size bugs will produce a bass
or some good size panfish. In open water I can pretty much land
anything on the 5wt and as an experienced bass wincher I already know if
something gets back in the trash its just patience and luck to get it
back out. P.S. I used to own three fly rods, but when my rod rack got
knocked over a year ago that was one of the rods that didn't make it
back out of the melee. I wouldn't even own the 7/8 or the one that got
broken (a 6/7) if it weren't some comments you made a long time ago on
ROFF.

Of course I almost never do any really long line presentation on a fly
rod so a lot of the subtleties are no doubt lost on this bass wincher.


Yeah, having a rod rack full of fly rods is more luxury than necessity
but they do accumulate over the years as you get them for specific
situations. For largemouth, read big, honking, wind-eating bugs, a
lot of folks like an 8wt. In fact, there was a fly fishing magazine
devoted to largemouth fishing titled 8 Wt Journal. For smallies my
preference is a 6wt and if I were allowed only one fly rod (shudder ;-),
for trout it'd be a 5wt.

But all this is changing as fly rod manufacturers all seem to be
migrating to the "faster is better" philosophy, especially in the
bigger weights. Part of the reason is that the higher modulus boron,
graphite blends allow them to make faster rods and part of it is
keeping up with the Joneses. If Sage makes a fast rod, Loomis will
make one faster and Scott will try to one up that. And of course,
there are fly fishermen who always have to have the latest and greatest
so there's always been a market for "new and improved" when "old
and traditional" still works just fine.


Is there any truth to the faster is better? I guess it would certainly
help with hook setting on some species like largemouth, but I've always
just loaded up the rod and hung on trying to gentle the fish in. How
about for presentation? It seems to me if the rod is too fast it would
make it hard to make full casts because you couldn't feel the rod load up
right on the back cast. I guess I have to find one and try it now.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com


I heard cane poles were no longer available in the South, as they are
outdated and don't catch fish any longer.....................



Bob La Londe May 10th, 2009 04:45 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 
"SteveB" wrote in message
...

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
... The last week of May and the first week of June
is a good time to use everything in the bag. All the fly rods, 1wt
to 9wt, will get a workout. ...

You know Ken. I actually own two fly rods. A 5wt which I pretty much
use for everything, and 7/8 that I use for giant rabbit fur streamers
(look like worms in the water to me) and large poppers. They aren't
Sage or St Croix or anything like that. The 5wt which I like better
and has a much better feel is a Wal-Mart special, and the 7/8 is a
Scientific Angler special, and feels like using a soggy log. I can lay
down some pretty tiny flies with the 5wt so I never saw any need to get
a lighter rod. After experimenting I have found I can do pretty well
with the larger stuff with it too. The only good reason I take both
rods on the rare occasions when I fly cast is so I do not have to stop
and change leaders if I decide the monster size bugs will produce a
bass or some good size panfish. In open water I can pretty much land
anything on the 5wt and as an experienced bass wincher I already know
if something gets back in the trash its just patience and luck to get
it back out. P.S. I used to own three fly rods, but when my rod rack
got knocked over a year ago that was one of the rods that didn't make
it back out of the melee. I wouldn't even own the 7/8 or the one that
got broken (a 6/7) if it weren't some comments you made a long time ago
on ROFF.

Of course I almost never do any really long line presentation on a fly
rod so a lot of the subtleties are no doubt lost on this bass wincher.

Yeah, having a rod rack full of fly rods is more luxury than necessity
but they do accumulate over the years as you get them for specific
situations. For largemouth, read big, honking, wind-eating bugs, a
lot of folks like an 8wt. In fact, there was a fly fishing magazine
devoted to largemouth fishing titled 8 Wt Journal. For smallies my
preference is a 6wt and if I were allowed only one fly rod (shudder ;-),
for trout it'd be a 5wt.

But all this is changing as fly rod manufacturers all seem to be
migrating to the "faster is better" philosophy, especially in the
bigger weights. Part of the reason is that the higher modulus boron,
graphite blends allow them to make faster rods and part of it is
keeping up with the Joneses. If Sage makes a fast rod, Loomis will
make one faster and Scott will try to one up that. And of course,
there are fly fishermen who always have to have the latest and greatest
so there's always been a market for "new and improved" when "old
and traditional" still works just fine.


Is there any truth to the faster is better? I guess it would certainly
help with hook setting on some species like largemouth, but I've always
just loaded up the rod and hung on trying to gentle the fish in. How
about for presentation? It seems to me if the rod is too fast it would
make it hard to make full casts because you couldn't feel the rod load up
right on the back cast. I guess I have to find one and try it now.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com


I heard cane poles were no longer available in the South, as they are
outdated and don't catch fish any longer.....................


Yeah, but you can always send up north. They stock them in those for
Yankees before they send 'em south to tell all them rebels how things are
supposed to be done in the south.


SteveB May 10th, 2009 05:11 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"SteveB" wrote in message
...

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
... The last week of May and the first week of June
is a good time to use everything in the bag. All the fly rods, 1wt
to 9wt, will get a workout. ...

You know Ken. I actually own two fly rods. A 5wt which I pretty much
use for everything, and 7/8 that I use for giant rabbit fur streamers
(look like worms in the water to me) and large poppers. They aren't
Sage or St Croix or anything like that. The 5wt which I like better
and has a much better feel is a Wal-Mart special, and the 7/8 is a
Scientific Angler special, and feels like using a soggy log. I can
lay down some pretty tiny flies with the 5wt so I never saw any need
to get a lighter rod. After experimenting I have found I can do
pretty well with the larger stuff with it too. The only good reason I
take both rods on the rare occasions when I fly cast is so I do not
have to stop and change leaders if I decide the monster size bugs will
produce a bass or some good size panfish. In open water I can pretty
much land anything on the 5wt and as an experienced bass wincher I
already know if something gets back in the trash its just patience and
luck to get it back out. P.S. I used to own three fly rods, but when
my rod rack got knocked over a year ago that was one of the rods that
didn't make it back out of the melee. I wouldn't even own the 7/8 or
the one that got broken (a 6/7) if it weren't some comments you made a
long time ago on ROFF.

Of course I almost never do any really long line presentation on a fly
rod so a lot of the subtleties are no doubt lost on this bass wincher.

Yeah, having a rod rack full of fly rods is more luxury than necessity
but they do accumulate over the years as you get them for specific
situations. For largemouth, read big, honking, wind-eating bugs, a
lot of folks like an 8wt. In fact, there was a fly fishing magazine
devoted to largemouth fishing titled 8 Wt Journal. For smallies my
preference is a 6wt and if I were allowed only one fly rod (shudder
;-),
for trout it'd be a 5wt.

But all this is changing as fly rod manufacturers all seem to be
migrating to the "faster is better" philosophy, especially in the
bigger weights. Part of the reason is that the higher modulus boron,
graphite blends allow them to make faster rods and part of it is
keeping up with the Joneses. If Sage makes a fast rod, Loomis will
make one faster and Scott will try to one up that. And of course,
there are fly fishermen who always have to have the latest and greatest
so there's always been a market for "new and improved" when "old
and traditional" still works just fine.

Is there any truth to the faster is better? I guess it would certainly
help with hook setting on some species like largemouth, but I've always
just loaded up the rod and hung on trying to gentle the fish in. How
about for presentation? It seems to me if the rod is too fast it would
make it hard to make full casts because you couldn't feel the rod load
up right on the back cast. I guess I have to find one and try it now.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com


I heard cane poles were no longer available in the South, as they are
outdated and don't catch fish any longer.....................


Yeah, but you can always send up north. They stock them in those for
Yankees before they send 'em south to tell all them rebels how things are
supposed to be done in the south.


I liked the long Calcutta cane ones. Some guys would make redfish poles out
of them, all hand done, and looked great.

Steve



Ken Fortenberry[_2_] May 10th, 2009 05:18 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
But all this is changing as fly rod manufacturers all seem to be
migrating to the "faster is better" philosophy, especially in the
bigger weights. Part of the reason is that the higher modulus boron,
graphite blends allow them to make faster rods and part of it is
keeping up with the Joneses. If Sage makes a fast rod, Loomis will
make one faster and Scott will try to one up that. And of course,
there are fly fishermen who always have to have the latest and greatest
so there's always been a market for "new and improved" when "old
and traditional" still works just fine.


Is there any truth to the faster is better? ...


Well, "better" is relative. A fast action rod can generate a lot of
line speed which means tighter loops, better wind cutting ability
and casting bigger bugs farther with less effort. On the other hand
most of them aren't worth a damn at delicate presentations in the 30'
range.

The other thing to consider is that a faster action fly rod is less
forgiving of a mediocre casting stroke. Slow action rods are very
forgiving in that the timing of your cast can be sloppy but the cast
will still get in the ballpark. A mediocre caster won't be able to
appreciate faster rods and will probably think of them as expensive
broomsticks.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Bob La Londe May 11th, 2009 04:32 AM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
But all this is changing as fly rod manufacturers all seem to be
migrating to the "faster is better" philosophy, especially in the
bigger weights. Part of the reason is that the higher modulus boron,
graphite blends allow them to make faster rods and part of it is
keeping up with the Joneses. If Sage makes a fast rod, Loomis will
make one faster and Scott will try to one up that. And of course,
there are fly fishermen who always have to have the latest and greatest
so there's always been a market for "new and improved" when "old
and traditional" still works just fine.


Is there any truth to the faster is better? ...


Well, "better" is relative. A fast action rod can generate a lot of
line speed which means tighter loops, better wind cutting ability
and casting bigger bugs farther with less effort. On the other hand
most of them aren't worth a damn at delicate presentations in the 30'
range.

The other thing to consider is that a faster action fly rod is less
forgiving of a mediocre casting stroke. Slow action rods are very
forgiving in that the timing of your cast can be sloppy but the cast
will still get in the ballpark. A mediocre caster won't be able to
appreciate faster rods and will probably think of them as expensive
broomsticks.


Well, since I doubt I'll ever be a fly aficionado, I'll stick with my 5wt
cheapy then.


Ken Fortenberry[_2_] May 11th, 2009 06:13 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
But all this is changing as fly rod manufacturers all seem to be
migrating to the "faster is better" philosophy, especially in the
bigger weights. Part of the reason is that the higher modulus boron,
graphite blends allow them to make faster rods and part of it is
keeping up with the Joneses. If Sage makes a fast rod, Loomis will
make one faster and Scott will try to one up that. And of course,
there are fly fishermen who always have to have the latest and greatest
so there's always been a market for "new and improved" when "old
and traditional" still works just fine.

Is there any truth to the faster is better? ...


Well, "better" is relative. A fast action rod can generate a lot of
line speed which means tighter loops, better wind cutting ability
and casting bigger bugs farther with less effort. On the other hand
most of them aren't worth a damn at delicate presentations in the 30'
range.

The other thing to consider is that a faster action fly rod is less
forgiving of a mediocre casting stroke. Slow action rods are very
forgiving in that the timing of your cast can be sloppy but the cast
will still get in the ballpark. A mediocre caster won't be able to
appreciate faster rods and will probably think of them as expensive
broomsticks.


Well, since I doubt I'll ever be a fly aficionado, I'll stick with my
5wt cheapy then.


Cheapy or not, it makes no difference. What's important is that
it fits your casting style. It's a lot easier to find a fly rod
that fits your stroke than it is to adjust your stroke to a rod
that isn't suited for you. The only good reason I can think of
to have one of the expensive new, super fast cannons is long
distance casting of heavy flies in a wind. That describes flats
fishing for bonefish and heaving rabbit fur to muskies and pike.
I've never encountered a bass or trout situation where a 65' cast
was necessary or even desirable. Well, I might make a cast that
long swinging for steelhead on the bigger water of a Lake Michigan
trib but you sure don't need, or want, a fast action rod when
swinging for steelhead.

My favorite fly rods, the ones I enjoy casting just to be casting,
are all slower action rods. And one of the best of those was an
old fiberglas 7/8 Garcia Conolon built for Service Merchandise
and costing less than $25 back in the day. Caught a lot of bass
and bluegill on that old rod when I lived on Lake Guntersville.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Calif Bill[_2_] May 21st, 2009 02:13 AM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 

"SteveB" wrote in message
...

"Marty" wrote in message
...
www.crappie.com


Dang. A crappie site I haven't been to. Utah doesn't have a state forum.
I guess not a lot of crappie fishing here. I live in XXtreme SW Utah, and
it has the state record for crappie, a 3#2oz. slab. Guess I'll just have
to figure it out myself with the warming water temps, currently 64. Lots
of crappie in this lake, but not a lot of people fish them.

Steve



"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Got some questions, and can't find a newsgroup.






Are in the St. George area? Going to Canyon de Chelly and figured I would
stop at Lees Ferry and try the trout fly fishing. Talk about off topic for
bass.



SteveB May 21st, 2009 06:36 AM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"SteveB" wrote in message
...

"Marty" wrote in message
...
www.crappie.com


Dang. A crappie site I haven't been to. Utah doesn't have a state
forum. I guess not a lot of crappie fishing here. I live in XXtreme SW
Utah, and it has the state record for crappie, a 3#2oz. slab. Guess I'll
just have to figure it out myself with the warming water temps, currently
64. Lots of crappie in this lake, but not a lot of people fish them.

Steve



"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Got some questions, and can't find a newsgroup.






Are in the St. George area? Going to Canyon de Chelly and figured I would
stop at Lees Ferry and try the trout fly fishing. Talk about off topic
for bass.


Yeah. We need to stick to bass. Then we'd only have seven posts a week to
read .............................................



Ronnie May 21st, 2009 06:34 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 
At least he didn't ask about "crappy" fishermen!

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com


Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers.com May 21st, 2009 07:04 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 

"Ronnie" wrote in message
...
At least he didn't ask about "crappy" fishermen!

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com


LOL, I've felt like that often enough over the years!
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


SteveB May 22nd, 2009 01:52 AM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 

"Ronnie" wrote in message
...
At least he didn't ask about "crappy" fishermen!

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com


If we talked of such matters, we'd have SRO.



Calif Bill[_2_] May 28th, 2009 01:29 AM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Got some questions, and can't find a newsgroup.


You in the St. George area? What lakes for what fish? Heading off to
Canyon de Chelly.



SteveB May 28th, 2009 03:42 AM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Got some questions, and can't find a newsgroup.


You in the St. George area? What lakes for what fish? Heading off to
Canyon de Chelly.


I fish Quail Hollow, Navajo, Panguitch, and some of the smaller lakes in the
Boulder Mountain area. Going to do some stream fishing for browns in a
secret place the geek at the Sportsman's Paradise told me about.

Steve



MrGrey May 31st, 2009 07:11 PM

Any crappie fishermen here?
 
Fishing for crappies, sunfish, panfish, trout every day!
However, I release most of them... I use fly line or light line with our
floats..
Here are soeme pictures from my fishing places.

http://s206.photobucket.com/albums/b...t=crapppie.jpg

Have fun browsing..

"SteveB" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Got some questions, and can't find a newsgroup.


You in the St. George area? What lakes for what fish? Heading off to
Canyon de Chelly.


I fish Quail Hollow, Navajo, Panguitch, and some of the smaller lakes in
the Boulder Mountain area. Going to do some stream fishing for browns in
a secret place the geek at the Sportsman's Paradise told me about.

Steve




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