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I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's:
1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Hope that isn't asking too much????? Thanks in advance... Doug ------------------------------------------------------ Doug Bardwell Bardwell Photography Website: bardwellphotography.com Blog: www.thetravelingtripod.com ----------------------------------------------------- |
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On Aug 18, 8:02*pm, digitaldougb wrote:
I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's: 1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Hope that isn't asking too much????? Thanks in advance... Doug I suspect that it probably is too much. Based on all that I've read and heard in recent years (and corroborated by personal experience) DEET is pretty much the exclusive miracle ingredient in modern commercial insect repellants. Of course, there are advocates for any number of preparations but there is precious little other than anecdotal evidence supporting most of them. On the other hand, if you're not married to the notion of an over the counter spray, I have it on excellent authority that a combination of carvedilol, aspirin, clopidogrel and simvastatin taken orally, daily, (see a physician for correct dosages) is remarkably effective in fending off mosquitoes. Efficacy with regard to other biting flies (yes, mosquitoes are diptera) remains to be demonstrated. The bad news is that this is an entirely ineffectual tick repellant. :( The good news is that the ticks invariably die. :) g. |
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On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:02:52 -0700 (PDT), digitaldougb
wrote: I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's: 1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Hope that isn't asking too much????? Thanks in advance... Doug If your only issue with DEET is your watch, my advice would be use the DEET and don't wear that watch (or get one with a mineral crystal). There are dozens of other "potions" out there that will keep a few pesky insects away for a limited time - everything from "Skin So Soft" (or however it's spelled - an Avon lotion) to citronella-based stuff to flower-based (it's some type of chrysanthemum, which general group is also the basis for some insecticides - do a Google search for products based on it), but in my considerable experience (I spend most of my time in areas that are full of various "flying biting critters"), DEET is the most readily available and effective. A little trick - keep a small bottle (1-2 oz/25-50ml) of household ammonia VERY handy for gnat bites - if you get into a patch of them, simply rub some of the ammonia on the area with the bites...that "bite stick" stuff, at $5-6USD a "tube" is nothing but ammonia...and for God's sake, don't carry it in a Gatorade bottle, a sippy box, Drambuie airliner, baby bottle, or anything that a child (or child-like adult) might remotely mistake for a container that once held consumable liquid, lest a child (or Louie) find it and guzzle it...or worse, it might get Dave, Bill, and Goatgang embroiled in a 413 post thread about religion, responsibility, and pseudochemistry.... Good luck, R |
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"digitaldougb" wrote in message
... I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's: 1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Avoid gas-pressurized canisters, i.e. use a manual pump (as supplied with some formulations of Off w/DEET.) Do not attempt overall coverage straight from the spray can, e.g. make two or four squirts at your head, then smear the repellant around with your hands to coat all exposed skin. Spectacles and watch glasses are easily protected by putting them in your pocket until repellant has been applied and dried. Rod and line finishes are no less vulnerable to DEET or its solvents: for this reason many anglers rinse their hands to remove repellant from their hands. DEET and citronella are what we rely on for blackfly, mosquitos and deer flies, all severe hereabouts. For the worst fly periods, we wear bug jackets (cotton mesh, kept in a plastic bag, recharged with an ounce or two of repellant once a month. We mix our own from bulk purchases.) All repellants are likely to seem sticky when first applied, but we seldom know whether this comes from the active chemical or the solvent/diluant. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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On Aug 18, 8:02*pm, digitaldougb wrote:
I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's: 1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Hope that isn't asking too much????? Thanks in advance... Doug ------------------------------------------------------ Doug Bardwell Bardwell Photography Website: *bardwellphotography.com Blog: * * *www.thetravelingtripod.com ----------------------------------------------------- Although I have not tried this, I have a friend who is outdoors quite a bit. He carries a small spray-bottle of Listerine. He swears it is among the best he has used. If you try it let us know how it works. Jack |
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digitaldougb wrote:
I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's: 1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Hope that isn't asking too much????? Thanks in advance... Yeah, that's asking too much. The only thing that works is Deet. I use the little spritzers from Ben's. Be careful what you spritz and use the back of your hands to spread it around and you'll be fine. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Aug 18, 9:02*pm, digitaldougb wrote:
I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's: 1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Hope that isn't asking too much????? Thanks in advance... Doug ------------------------------------------------------ Doug Bardwell Bardwell Photography Website: *bardwellphotography.com Blog: * * *www.thetravelingtripod.com ----------------------------------------------------- Cutters Advanced (no DEET) works for very short periods of time on mosquitoes, but has no effect at all on blackfles. DEET is the only way to go, and if the bugs are really thick, the 100% concentration is the way to go. As another poster said, don't rely on the spray. I take off my hat, watch and glasses, spray (pump, not aerosol) into the palm of one hand, and cover all exposed areas. I then clean it off the palm, to avoid damage to fly line, waders, etc, and put on the items I removed. Repeat the procedure every few hours. |
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In message , Ken Fortenberry
writes digitaldougb wrote: I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's: 1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Hope that isn't asking too much????? Thanks in advance... Yeah, that's asking too much. The only thing that works is Deet. I use the little spritzers from Ben's. Be careful what you spritz and use the back of your hands to spread it around and you'll be fine. I don't know if they are available in the USA but over here I like to use "Jungle Formula" sachets. Very handy to keep in your wallet. The sachets are about credit card size , very convenient and very effective. Each one contains a moist wipe. -- Bill Grey |
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I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's: 1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Hope that isn't asking too much????? Thanks in advance... Doug I have found that Burt's Insect repellant works well for me. It claims to be non-toxic containing lemon seed oil, grape seed oil, and citronela (sp?) oil. It is an oily product, but it keeps the bugs off of Bear and myself quite well and it smells good too! Op |
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On Aug 19, 4:12*pm, jeff wrote:
wrote: ... *embroiled in a 413 post thread about religion, responsibility, and pseudochemistry.... Good luck, R indeed...but, inexplicable mysteries abound. Pseudo or no, one thing you would not want to do is spray that ammonia onto anything with chlorine on it. A little on a lot of bleach or "pool chemicals" and you could easily get a nasty explosion. A spray or two onto or into bleach and you get a release of deadly chlorine gas. Even a little of that gas will damage your lungs. Chemistry is real. Dave |
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:43:24 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:
On Aug 19, 4:12*pm, jeff wrote: wrote: ... *embroiled in a 413 post thread about religion, responsibility, and pseudochemistry.... Good luck, R indeed...but, inexplicable mysteries abound. Pseudo or no, one thing you would not want to do is spray that ammonia onto anything with chlorine on it. A little on a lot of bleach or "pool chemicals" and you could easily get a nasty explosion. A spray or two onto or into bleach and you get a release of deadly chlorine gas. Even a little of that gas will damage your lungs. And another thing you don't want to do is jump off a 40-story building with a large bench vise strapped to your chest while holding a monkey, either... Chemistry is real. So is physics...and forensics... HTH, R ....LET GO OF THE MONKEY, DAVE!!! Dave |
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:12:05 -0400, jeff wrote:
wrote: ... embroiled in a 413 post thread about religion, responsibility, and pseudochemistry.... Good luck, R indeed...but, inexplicable mysteries abound. And yet, some are less inexplicable than others...in fact, I'd offer that many of those are so explicable so to have completely lost all mysteriousness whatsoever... TC, R ....very models of modern major explicableness, generally speaking... |
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:34:28 +0100, Bill Grey wrote:
In message , writes Drambuie airliner, baby bottle, or anything that a child (or child-like adult) might remotely mistake for a container that once held consumable liquid, lest a child (or Louie) find it and guzzle it...or worse, it might get Dave, Bill, and Goatgang embroiled in a 413 post thread about religion, responsibility, and pseudochemistry.... Would that be moi or the other Bill. HOLY **** - THERE ARE _TWO_ OF YOU?! I'm just an innocent bystander - really. Yeah, right... TC, R |
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On Aug 19, 5:07*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:43:24 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote: On Aug 19, 4:12 pm, jeff wrote: wrote: ... embroiled in a 413 post thread about religion, responsibility, and pseudochemistry.... Good luck, R indeed...but, inexplicable mysteries abound. Pseudo or no, one thing you would not want to do is spray that ammonia onto anything with chlorine on it. A little on a lot of bleach or "pool chemicals" and you could easily get a nasty explosion. A spray or two onto or into bleach and you get a release of deadly chlorine gas. Even a little of that gas will damage your lungs. And another thing you don't want to do is jump off a 40-story building with a large bench vise strapped to your chest while holding a monkey, either... Chemistry is real. So is physics...and forensics... HTH, R ...LET GO OF THE MONKEY, DAVE!!! Dave- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's my monkey and I'll phi if I want to, phi if I want to. Dave |
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HTH --riverman On Aug 19, 9:02*am, digitaldougb wrote: I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's: 1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Hope that isn't asking too much????? Thanks in advance... Doug ------------------------------------------------------ Doug Bardwell Bardwell Photography Website: *bardwellphotography.com Blog: * * *www.thetravelingtripod.com ----------------------------------------------------- |
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digitaldougb wrote:
I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's: 1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Hope that isn't asking too much????? Thanks in advance... Doug ------------------------------------------------------ Doug Bardwell Bardwell Photography Website: bardwellphotography.com Blog: www.thetravelingtripod.com ----------------------------------------------------- Put your watch in your pocket and use DEET. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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"DaveS" wrote in message ... On Aug 19, 5:07 pm, wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:43:24 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote: On Aug 19, 4:12 pm, jeff wrote: wrote: ... embroiled in a 413 post thread about religion, responsibility, and pseudochemistry.... Good luck, R indeed...but, inexplicable mysteries abound. Pseudo or no, one thing you would not want to do is spray that ammonia onto anything with chlorine on it. A little on a lot of bleach or "pool chemicals" and you could easily get a nasty explosion. A spray or two onto or into bleach and you get a release of deadly chlorine gas. Even a little of that gas will damage your lungs. And another thing you don't want to do is jump off a 40-story building with a large bench vise strapped to your chest while holding a monkey, either... Chemistry is real. So is physics...and forensics... HTH, R ...LET GO OF THE MONKEY, DAVE!!! Dave- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's my monkey and I'll phi if I want to, phi if I want to. Dave You WOULD phi too! John (it happened to me!) |
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"Mark Bowen" wrote in message ... I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's: 1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Hope that isn't asking too much????? Thanks in advance... Doug I have found that Burt's Insect repellant works well for me. It claims to be non-toxic containing lemon seed oil, grape seed oil, and citronela (sp?) oil. It is an oily product, but it keeps the bugs off of Bear and myself quite well and it smells good too! Op Hey, wait a second... Those are the same ingredients ha are in Dr. Amends 'Pheromone Advantage' that I have been using to attract women... ....must be pretty much a universal repellant... John |
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On 2009-08-18 21:02:52 -0400, digitaldougb said:
I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's: 1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Hope that isn't asking too much????? Thanks in advance... Wear a capolene (sp) turtle neck, long sleeves, and fingerless gloves (the kind used in the tropics for sun protection work fine). Use a bug spray/cream/whatever that contains a high quantity of Deet. There are some that are almost odorless. Ben's 100% is what I use. Spray your hat liberally with it, and apply it to your face, ears, and neck below the turtle neck. Wash your hands. Put on the gloves/hat and you are ready for whatever mom nature throws at you. It works for me in Labrador where there are no-seeums, black flies, and mosquitos all at the same time. It works against the mosquitos and white sox in Alaska. Buy a fisherman's watch that attches to your vest. Dave |
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On Aug 19, 8:39*am, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:02:52 -0700 (PDT), digitaldougb wrote: I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's: 1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Hope that isn't asking too much????? Thanks in advance... Doug If your only issue with DEET is your watch, my advice would be use the DEET and don't wear that watch (or get one with a mineral crystal). *There are dozens of other "potions" out there that will keep a few pesky insects away for a limited time - everything from "Skin So Soft" (or however it's spelled - an Avon lotion) to citronella-based stuff to flower-based (it's some type of chrysanthemum, which general group is also the basis for some insecticides - do a Google search for products based on it), but in my considerable experience (I spend most of my time in areas that are full of various "flying biting critters"), DEET is the most readily available and effective. * A little trick - keep a small bottle (1-2 oz/25-50ml) of household ammonia VERY handy for gnat bites - if you get into a patch of them, simply rub some of the ammonia on the area with the bites...that "bite stick" stuff, at $5-6USD a "tube" is nothing but ammonia...and for God's sake, don't carry it in a Gatorade bottle, a sippy box, Drambuie airliner, baby bottle, or anything that a child (or child-like adult) might remotely mistake for a container that once held consumable liquid, lest a child (or Louie) find it and guzzle it...or worse, it might get Dave, Bill, and Goatgang embroiled in a 413 post thread about religion, responsibility, and pseudochemistry.... Good luck, R Idiot. g. |
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"Giles" wrote in message ... On Aug 19, 8:39 am, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:02:52 -0700 (PDT), digitaldougb wrote: I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's: 1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Hope that isn't asking too much????? Thanks in advance... Doug If your only issue with DEET is your watch, my advice would be use the DEET and don't wear that watch (or get one with a mineral crystal). There are dozens of other "potions" out there that will keep a few pesky insects away for a limited time - everything from "Skin So Soft" (or however it's spelled - an Avon lotion) to citronella-based stuff to flower-based (it's some type of chrysanthemum, which general group is also the basis for some insecticides - do a Google search for products based on it), but in my considerable experience (I spend most of my time in areas that are full of various "flying biting critters"), DEET is the most readily available and effective. A little trick - keep a small bottle (1-2 oz/25-50ml) of household ammonia VERY handy for gnat bites - if you get into a patch of them, simply rub some of the ammonia on the area with the bites...that "bite stick" stuff, at $5-6USD a "tube" is nothing but ammonia...and for God's sake, don't carry it in a Gatorade bottle, a sippy box, Drambuie airliner, baby bottle, or anything that a child (or child-like adult) might remotely mistake for a container that once held consumable liquid, lest a child (or Louie) find it and guzzle it...or worse, it might get Dave, Bill, and Goatgang embroiled in a 413 post thread about religion, responsibility, and pseudochemistry.... Good luck, R Idiot. g. hmmm. One gives advice, the other one contributes....what, exactly?? It's starting to become obvious who the idiot is, and sadly, that conclusion is being brought to the forefront by the writer himself. Tom |
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"Tom Littleton" wrote in message ... Idiot. g. hmmm. One gives advice, the other one contributes....what, exactly?? It's starting to become obvious who the idiot is, and sadly, that conclusion is being brought to the forefront by the writer himself. Tom ****head :~^ ) Op |
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"Mark Bowen" wrote in message ... ****head :~^ ) Op Hillbillyg Tom (hmmmm.....football season is almost here) |
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Tom Littleton wrote:
"Giles" wrote Idiot. hmmm. One gives advice, the other one contributes....what, exactly?? It's starting to become obvious who the idiot is, and sadly, that conclusion is being brought to the forefront by the writer himself. Poking a pile of **** with a stick will only serve to make it stink worse. Better to just step around it and remember to avoid it. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"Tom Littleton" wrote in message ... "Mark Bowen" wrote in message ... ****head :~^ ) Op Hillbillyg Tom (hmmmm.....football season is almost here) Yes it is sir, and our star Quarterback tried to cut his foot off mowing his lawn! The good news is that he actually mows his own lawn. The bad news is that some MORON, IMBECILE, and ****HEAD allowed him to mow is own lawn! Get your bets ready young piscator! Op |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... Tom Littleton wrote: "Giles" wrote Idiot. hmmm. One gives advice, the other one contributes....what, exactly?? It's starting to become obvious who the idiot is, and sadly, that conclusion is being brought to the forefront by the writer himself. Poking a pile of **** with a stick will only serve to make it stink worse. Better to just step around it and remember to avoid it. -- Ken Fortenberry When ya gonna come down and fish Upper creek with us. ( see pics at alt.binaries) Op |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... Poking a pile of **** with a stick will only serve to make it stink worse. Better to just step around it and remember to avoid it. "poking a pile of ****", looking for the infrequent gem, pretty much describes my time spent on ROFF over the past decade and a half. I wouldn't avoid it at any cost. The gems have proven worthwhile....... Tom |
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On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:57:16 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"Giles" wrote in message ... On Aug 19, 8:39 am, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:02:52 -0700 (PDT), digitaldougb wrote: I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's: 1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Hope that isn't asking too much????? Thanks in advance... Doug If your only issue with DEET is your watch, my advice would be use the DEET and don't wear that watch (or get one with a mineral crystal). There are dozens of other "potions" out there that will keep a few pesky insects away for a limited time - everything from "Skin So Soft" (or however it's spelled - an Avon lotion) to citronella-based stuff to flower-based (it's some type of chrysanthemum, which general group is also the basis for some insecticides - do a Google search for products based on it), but in my considerable experience (I spend most of my time in areas that are full of various "flying biting critters"), DEET is the most readily available and effective. A little trick - keep a small bottle (1-2 oz/25-50ml) of household ammonia VERY handy for gnat bites - if you get into a patch of them, simply rub some of the ammonia on the area with the bites...that "bite stick" stuff, at $5-6USD a "tube" is nothing but ammonia...and for God's sake, don't carry it in a Gatorade bottle, a sippy box, Drambuie airliner, baby bottle, or anything that a child (or child-like adult) might remotely mistake for a container that once held consumable liquid, lest a child (or Louie) find it and guzzle it...or worse, it might get Dave, Bill, and Goatgang embroiled in a 413 post thread about religion, responsibility, and pseudochemistry.... Good luck, R Idiot. g. hmmm. One gives advice, the other one contributes....what, exactly?? It's starting to become obvious who the idiot is, and sadly, that conclusion is being brought to the forefront by the writer himself. Tom Aw, he's just mad because Ken got to party with Barney Frank and he didn't...I betcha there was plenty of Drambuie and sweet vermouth consumed at THAT little shindig... Beefcake - it's what was for dinner, R |
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Has anyone in the group had any experience with the BUZZ OFF clothing products on the market by ExOfficio? Very expensive... JT |
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On 24-Aug-2009, "JT" wrote: Has anyone in the group had any experience with the BUZZ OFF clothing products on the market by ExOfficio? Very expensive... JT I have a couple of shirts that were bought for me After a few washes the gimmick or repellanct is useless Fred |
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On Aug 24, 3:16*am, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:57:16 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote: "Giles" wrote in message ... On Aug 19, 8:39 am, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:02:52 -0700 (PDT), digitaldougb wrote: I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's: 1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Hope that isn't asking too much????? Thanks in advance... Doug If your only issue with DEET is your watch, my advice would be use the DEET and don't wear that watch (or get one with a mineral crystal). There are dozens of other "potions" out there that will keep a few pesky insects away for a limited time - everything from "Skin So Soft" (or however it's spelled - an Avon lotion) to citronella-based stuff to flower-based (it's some type of chrysanthemum, which general group is also the basis for some insecticides - do a Google search for products based on it), but in my considerable experience (I spend most of my time in areas that are full of various "flying biting critters"), DEET is the most readily available and effective. A little trick - keep a small bottle (1-2 oz/25-50ml) of household ammonia VERY handy for gnat bites - if you get into a patch of them, simply rub some of the ammonia on the area with the bites...that "bite stick" stuff, at $5-6USD a "tube" is nothing but ammonia...and for God's sake, don't carry it in a Gatorade bottle, a sippy box, Drambuie airliner, baby bottle, or anything that a child (or child-like adult) might remotely mistake for a container that once held consumable liquid, lest a child (or Louie) find it and guzzle it...or worse, it might get Dave, Bill, and Goatgang embroiled in a 413 post thread about religion, responsibility, and pseudochemistry.... Good luck, R Idiot. g. hmmm. One gives advice, the other one contributes....what, exactly?? It's starting to become obvious who the idiot is, and sadly, that conclusion is being brought to the forefront by the writer himself. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom Aw, he's just mad because Ken got to party with Barney Frank and he didn't...I betcha there was plenty of Drambuie and sweet vermouth consumed at THAT little shindig... Beefcake - it's what was for dinner, R- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Richard Come on now. The election is long past. You have some good insights and I would like to hear your opinion, if you can speak freely, on questions that many Americans still wonder about. Let me try to put it delicately: Why did Bush surround himself with so many allies/assistants/etc of, shall we say, "exotic tastes?" Like C. Rove for example. Surely the Secret Service alerted the Prez or at least COS Card that Rove was bringing male prostitutes into the White House security areas. Surely the Prez knew something about the security problems posed by the adulterous tastes of Cheney's chief staffers. Who was responsible for selecting the WH military aide who was a Cuban spy? Was that guy also involved intimately with the Rove sex group? Was it AG Gonzales who finally got tired of the Secret Service punting on this stuff and had the FBI roust out these folks? Is there anything more than rumor that Cheney was extorting these folks? Anyway, with time it should be possible to calmly shed some light on these questions, for historical accuracy if for no other reason. Or do we have to wait for the insider books? Dave Truth Seeker Wall Painter Patriot |
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On Aug 23, 7:57*am, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"Giles" wrote in message ... On Aug 19, 8:39 am, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:02:52 -0700 (PDT), digitaldougb wrote: I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's: 1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Hope that isn't asking too much????? Thanks in advance... Doug If your only issue with DEET is your watch, my advice would be use the DEET and don't wear that watch (or get one with a mineral crystal). There are dozens of other "potions" out there that will keep a few pesky insects away for a limited time - everything from "Skin So Soft" (or however it's spelled - an Avon lotion) to citronella-based stuff to flower-based (it's some type of chrysanthemum, which general group is also the basis for some insecticides - do a Google search for products based on it), but in my considerable experience (I spend most of my time in areas that are full of various "flying biting critters"), DEET is the most readily available and effective. A little trick - keep a small bottle (1-2 oz/25-50ml) of household ammonia VERY handy for gnat bites - if you get into a patch of them, simply rub some of the ammonia on the area with the bites...that "bite stick" stuff, at $5-6USD a "tube" is nothing but ammonia...and for God's sake, don't carry it in a Gatorade bottle, a sippy box, Drambuie airliner, baby bottle, or anything that a child (or child-like adult) might remotely mistake for a container that once held consumable liquid, lest a child (or Louie) find it and guzzle it...or worse, it might get Dave, Bill, and Goatgang embroiled in a 413 post thread about religion, responsibility, and pseudochemistry.... Good luck, R Idiot. g. hmmm. One gives advice, the other one contributes....what, exactly?? Hm.....and yet another is a professional apologist. It's starting to become obvious who the idiot is, and sadly, that conclusion is being brought to the forefront by the writer himself. Yeah? You think so? Truly? giles |
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On Aug 23, 10:17*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: Tom Littleton wrote: "Giles" wrote Idiot. hmmm. One gives advice, the other one contributes....what, exactly?? It's starting to become obvious who the idiot is, and sadly, that conclusion is being brought to the forefront by the writer himself. Poking a pile of **** with a stick will only serve to make it stink worse. Better to just step around it and remember to avoid it. -- Ken Fortenberry BOO! g. hee, hee, hee. |
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On Aug 24, 5:16*am, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:57:16 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote: "Giles" wrote in message ... On Aug 19, 8:39 am, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:02:52 -0700 (PDT), digitaldougb wrote: I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's: 1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Hope that isn't asking too much????? Thanks in advance... Doug If your only issue with DEET is your watch, my advice would be use the DEET and don't wear that watch (or get one with a mineral crystal). There are dozens of other "potions" out there that will keep a few pesky insects away for a limited time - everything from "Skin So Soft" (or however it's spelled - an Avon lotion) to citronella-based stuff to flower-based (it's some type of chrysanthemum, which general group is also the basis for some insecticides - do a Google search for products based on it), but in my considerable experience (I spend most of my time in areas that are full of various "flying biting critters"), DEET is the most readily available and effective. A little trick - keep a small bottle (1-2 oz/25-50ml) of household ammonia VERY handy for gnat bites - if you get into a patch of them, simply rub some of the ammonia on the area with the bites...that "bite stick" stuff, at $5-6USD a "tube" is nothing but ammonia...and for God's sake, don't carry it in a Gatorade bottle, a sippy box, Drambuie airliner, baby bottle, or anything that a child (or child-like adult) might remotely mistake for a container that once held consumable liquid, lest a child (or Louie) find it and guzzle it...or worse, it might get Dave, Bill, and Goatgang embroiled in a 413 post thread about religion, responsibility, and pseudochemistry.... Good luck, R Idiot. g. hmmm. One gives advice, the other one contributes....what, exactly?? It's starting to become obvious who the idiot is, and sadly, that conclusion is being brought to the forefront by the writer himself. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom Aw, he's just mad because Ken got to party with Barney Frank and he didn't...I betcha there was plenty of Drambuie and sweet vermouth consumed at THAT little shindig... Beefcake - it's what was for dinner, Cretin. g. |
Bug spray
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:19:29 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:
On Aug 24, 3:16*am, wrote: On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:57:16 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote: "Giles" wrote in message ... On Aug 19, 8:39 am, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:02:52 -0700 (PDT), digitaldougb wrote: I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's: 1) odorless as possible 2) not gooey or sticky 3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal) 4) lasts for a couple hours at least 5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible. Hope that isn't asking too much????? Thanks in advance... Doug If your only issue with DEET is your watch, my advice would be use the DEET and don't wear that watch (or get one with a mineral crystal). There are dozens of other "potions" out there that will keep a few pesky insects away for a limited time - everything from "Skin So Soft" (or however it's spelled - an Avon lotion) to citronella-based stuff to flower-based (it's some type of chrysanthemum, which general group is also the basis for some insecticides - do a Google search for products based on it), but in my considerable experience (I spend most of my time in areas that are full of various "flying biting critters"), DEET is the most readily available and effective. A little trick - keep a small bottle (1-2 oz/25-50ml) of household ammonia VERY handy for gnat bites - if you get into a patch of them, simply rub some of the ammonia on the area with the bites...that "bite stick" stuff, at $5-6USD a "tube" is nothing but ammonia...and for God's sake, don't carry it in a Gatorade bottle, a sippy box, Drambuie airliner, baby bottle, or anything that a child (or child-like adult) might remotely mistake for a container that once held consumable liquid, lest a child (or Louie) find it and guzzle it...or worse, it might get Dave, Bill, and Goatgang embroiled in a 413 post thread about religion, responsibility, and pseudochemistry.... Good luck, R Idiot. g. hmmm. One gives advice, the other one contributes....what, exactly?? It's starting to become obvious who the idiot is, and sadly, that conclusion is being brought to the forefront by the writer himself. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom Aw, he's just mad because Ken got to party with Barney Frank and he didn't...I betcha there was plenty of Drambuie and sweet vermouth consumed at THAT little shindig... Beefcake - it's what was for dinner, R- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Richard Come on now. The election is long past. You have some good insights and I would like to hear your opinion, if you can speak freely, on questions that many Americans still wonder about. Oh, sure, no problem - it was all due to your being so coy...if you hadn't been such a pricktease, all the world's problems would have been solved... Let me try to put it delicately: Why did Bush surround himself with so many allies/assistants/etc of, shall we say, "exotic tastes?" Like C. Rove for example. Surely the Secret Service alerted the Prez or at least COS Card that Rove was bringing male prostitutes into the White House security areas. Surely the Prez knew something about the security problems posed by the adulterous tastes of Cheney's chief staffers. Who was responsible for selecting the WH military aide who was a Cuban spy? Was that guy also involved intimately with the Rove sex group? Was it AG Gonzales who finally got tired of the Secret Service punting on this stuff and had the FBI roust out these folks? Is there anything more than rumor that Cheney was extorting these folks? Um....OK... Anyway, with time it should be possible to calmly shed some light on these questions, for historical accuracy if for no other reason. Or do we have to wait for the insider books? Yeah, you gotta wait...but it'll be worth it when you hear about how the _entire_ Republican delegation greased up in Crisco and KY and played cornhole slip-n-slide in the Rose Garden while Cheney fired Hitler's shotgun over the proceedings... Dave Truth Seeker Wall Painter Patriot you forgot, "etc"... HTH, R |
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